Sacrifices to God...

[sebastian]

Hey, I dunno if this is the right place to ask, so sorry if it isn't, but I was just wondering about the sacrifices that were offered in the temple, do Jews still do them? Are they still needed? I was gonna ask on a jewish Forum but I can't find one! :o So if you know any I'd be gratefull for that too!
God bless. ;)

[The Thadman]

Hey, I dunno if this is the right place to ask, so sorry if it isn't, but I was just wondering about the sacrifices that were offered in the temple, do Jews still do them? Are they still needed? I was gonna ask on a jewish Forum but I can't find one! :o So if you know any I'd be gratefull for that too!
God bless. ;)

Sacrifices have to be done in a place that God chooses to "let his name rest in."

That was the Temple, but as of now there seems to be no other place that he has designated. If he were to do so, sacrifices would resume. :)

Peace!
-Steve-o

[Henaynei]

Hey, I dunno if this is the right place to ask, so sorry if it isn't, but I was just wondering about the sacrifices that were offered in the temple, do Jews still do them? Are they still needed? I was gonna ask on a jewish Forum but I can't find one! :o So if you know any I'd be gratefull for that too!
God bless. ;)
Shalom Sebastian,

Nice of you to ask the question :) We have just recently had a discussion on part of your question in this thread: The Millenial Temple (http://www.christianforums.com/t681817).

One note: no there are no sacrifices currently - the *must* be a Temple for their to be sacrifices - until the Temple, no sacrifices. As to what happens after the Temple is rebuilt see the above mentioned thread ;)

b'Shalom
Henaynei

[sebastian]

Thanks for your answers, I think I get it! :d so basically, God has to designate a place for the offerings. Like when Solomon made the temple and God came like a thick cloud? And untill there is somewhere like that, no sacrifices are to be made. Is that right?

God bless. :)

[Henaynei]

Thanks for your answers, I think I get it! :d so basically, God has to designate a place for the offerings. Like when Solomon made the temple and God came like a thick cloud? And untill there is somewhere like that, no sacrifices are to be made. Is that right?

God bless. :)
By George, I think he's got it!! LOL

Yes, you are correct. The "somewhere like that" must be the Temple on the Temple mount - until that is rebuilt...... no sacrifices. ;) All the plans, most of the garments and utensils, and much of the funding has already been gathered. There is even a school in Iarael training men of proven levitical heritage to be priests --- all in preparation for the day when G-d finally allows the temple to be rebuilt! Do a web search for the Temple Mount Faithful and for the Temple Institute. You will find some interesting info :)

[The Thadman]

By George, I think he's got it!! LOL

Yes indeed! :)

Yes, you are correct. The "somewhere like that" must be the Temple on the Temple mount - until that is rebuilt...... no sacrifices. ;)

I wouldn't say that it -has- to be the Temple. There are many places in the Tanakh where God said "sacrifice here" and they built an altar of unhewn rocks and took care of it, such as the "high places" (or "shrines") in 1 Samuel.

But, currently, the last place that we know for sure that God said his name would rest would be the Temple, so until it is rebuilt, or another place is designated, sacrifices are a no-go. :)

Peace!
-Steve-o

[Henaynei]

I wouldn't say that it -has- to be the Temple. There are many places in the Tanakh where God said "sacrifice here" and they built an altar of unhewn rocks and took care of it, such as the "high places" (or "shrines") in 1 Samuel.

But, currently, the last place that we know for sure that God said his name would rest would be the Temple, so until it is rebuilt, or another place is designated, sacrifices are a no-go. :)

Peace!
-Steve-oShalom :)

Was that not prior to the building of the first Temple - and is there any place where G-d instructs sacrifice to be made other than the Temple *after* the first one was built?? I recall no references to some other place in all of scripture (contemporary or prophetic) after the first Temple was built. G-d said "in the place I shall place my Name." and that Yerushalyim is "Mine forever."

Why were the rabbis so destraught over the loss of the Temple AND the loss of ability to do the sacrifices if they had another place to choose?? Why did R Yochanan ben Zakki have to make halakah that fasting, prayers and gemilut hasadim (acts of lovingkindness) surficed for atonement in the lack of sacrifices IF it were possible to continue the sacrifices without the Temple?

I am looking forward to your interesting answer ;)

[sebastian]

you guys rock! thanks! :)

[The Thadman]

Was that not prior to the building of the first Temple - and is there any place where G-d instructs sacrifice to be made other than the Temple *after* the first one was built?? I recall no references to some other place in all of scripture (contemporary or prophetic) after the first Temple was built. G-d said "in the place I shall place my Name." and that Yerushalyim is "Mine forever."

Jerusalem was always his :) The Temple, as I said before, was the last place we're positive that he let his name rest.

However, if he were to come to you in a vision and say "Hey Henaynei, here's a spot" would you obey him? I would :)

Why were the rabbis so destraught over the loss of the Temple AND the loss of ability to do the sacrifices if they had another place to choose??

Like I said :) The Temple was the last place the Jewish body at the time believed where God let his name rest.

Why did R Yochanan ben Zakki have to make halakah that fasting, prayers and gemilut hasadim (acts of lovingkindness) surficed for atonement in the lack of sacrifices IF it were possible to continue the sacrifices without the Temple?

I don't think that BenZakkai had the authority to make such a declaration. But that's just me :) Additionally, why did oral tradition forbid a son from helping his father and mother when he made his work qorban? Yeshu` saw error with that. Why did the use of blue in tzitzyot stop? I, personally, believe that it could be politics, but don't know enough about the situation to make such a declaration yet.

Peace!
-Steve-o

[Henaynei]

Jerusalem was always his :) The Temple, as I said before, was the last place we're positive that he let his name rest.

However, if he were to come to you in a vision and say "Hey Henaynei, here's a spot" would you obey him? I would :) No, probably not - I would have to first make sure that what I "dreamed" lined up with scripture - for this is the "season" of lying signs and wonders..... Scripture first... ;)



Like I said :) The Temple was the last place the Jewish body at the time believed where God let his name rest.
I don't think that BenZakkai had the authority to make such a declaration. But that's just me :) [snip] I, personally, believe that it could be politics, but don't know enough about the situation to make such a declaration yet.

Peace!
-Steve-o Ok, fair enough - from your theological stance that certainly makes logical sense, yes. So, what about the 70 years of the Babylonian dispersion - no sacrifices then either - and G-d came to Nehemiah and said now is the time to rebulid the *Temple.* And people put their lives at risk to build it and there were no sacrifices for the additional time it took to finish and dedicate it - long before the "politics" you mentioned .... ;)