Given the current state of politics

[mont974x4]

I don't think Huck stands a chance, Romney is out. I can't in good conscience vote for McCain or Clinton or Obama.


I'm voting for Alan Keyes.

[WordofGod]

I don't think Huck stands a chance, Romney is out. I can't in good conscience vote for McCain or Clinton or Obama.


I'm voting for Alan Keyes.
Do you want your vote to count for God and man?:)

[mont974x4]

I need to cast a vote that allows me to have a clear conscience....a vote for McCain, Clinton, and Obama do not allow that.

I care little for the opinions of men, my vote must honor God and the convictions He has placed on my heart.

[WordofGod]

I already voted for Huckabee in the primaries.:crossrc:

[mont974x4]

I would have, but we had no primary here...just a caucus that allowed less than 1900 people to decide who got out 25 delegates. Mitt won and since he has suspended his candidacy instead of officially dropping out, those votes stay his for now.

[WordofGod]

He says for the good of the party, he dropped out. I believe for the good of the party he should give his support to Huckabee for many reasons.:)

[profg]

I voted Alan Keyes in the primary. I'm sticking with him until he drops out or wins.:)

web.mac.com/profg/iWeb/Site/Blog/Blog.html

BG

[BAFRIEND]

Once who the partys will decide who we will vote for in this free country where all corporations are created equal- then I will choose the scumbag with the best record on abortion.

[anticonspiracytheories]

Well, this election is one of the weirdest in history I think. I mean, Hillary is just plain mean to Obama, and Obama is like a question mark. McCain seems much more reasonable than Romney because Romney has flip flopped far more. Huckabee deserves a pat on the back for being consistent, but I don't think it would be wise to put him in office because of the one thing he said about changing the Constitution. Whenever someone on the right or left says anything about changing the Constitution, beware of them.

Being a libertarian, I'm stuck in the middle. Lucky me.

The abortion issue for me is tricky, because there are so many situations that arise with young kids having sex and not being taught the basics. I would venture to say that most pro-choice people would prefer there to be reduced abortions, and hopefully no abortions, but they don't believe it is the government's job to make a girl have a baby if she would be traumatized by such a thing like from rape or incest. If abortion is made illegal, then, women will resort to horrific practices to get it done, rather than in a sanitary, medical facility.

China is a perfect example of what happens when you are not pro-choice. They FORCE women to have abortions, rather than having a choice. And if abortion is made illegal, then it is the exact same situation reversed. Women would be FORCED to have babies rather than having a choice. Either way, they'd be forced to lie half-naked on a table against their will.

We need to find a solution to abortion I think, but making it illegal will only make it go underground. The best solution is prevention, via sexual education and birth control. Abstinence only education is a sure fire way to increase abortions, since it fails most of the time. The odds of a sexually active girl getting pregnant while using birth control and condoms is very low, which would prevent pregnancy, and thus abortion. So, the pro-choice people would win and the pro-life people would win.

But, the pro-life people who refuse to teach kids about safe sex which would prevent pregnancy are being unrealistic. Sexual drive is more powerful than a promise of staying abstinent.

Just remember, when you criminalize human vices, then criminals will control them.

[BAFRIEND]

Well, this election is one of the weirdest in history I think. I mean, Hillary is just plain mean to Obama, and Obama is like a question mark. McCain seems much more reasonable than Romney because Romney has flip flopped far more.

No, they are all weird.

Every election we are given the choice between two people who no one in their right mind would ever invite into their own homes.

The only person who was a president that I would ever let cross my thresh hold would be Jimmy Carter. Not because he was a great president, but because he is a great man.

[MrJim]

It's fun to sit back and watch the whole thing happen. I have practiced safe politics (abstaining) since 1984, don't participate in the process for personal and scriptural reasonings, but it sure is fun to watch~especially the expression "politics makes for strange bedfellows". I was listening to Dobson being interviewed by Glenn Beck yesterday...strange bedfellows indeed ;)

[BAFRIEND]

It's fun to sit back and watch the whole thing happen. I have practiced safe politics (abstaining) since 1984, don't participate in the process for personal and scriptural reasonings, but it sure is fun to watch~especially the expression "politics makes for strange bedfellows". I was listening to Dobson being interviewed by Glenn Beck yesterday...strange bedfellows indeed ;)
By bedfellows do you mean whores ?

I can certainly agree to that.

[MrJim]

By bedfellows do you mean whores ?

I can certainly agree to that.
well I was trying to be gentle:D

[SolomonVII]

The lesser of two evils... is still evil

One should never choose the lesser of two evils, for that would be still opting for evil.
It is the lessening of evil that is the correct choice.

With so many Supreme Court appointments on th eline in the next few years, there is no doubt what kind of choices Barrack and Hillary would make. But if a Republican president actually beats the odds and gets elected, he will not be able to do wo without owing a debt to support from conservative Christians.

[MrJim]

But if a Republican president actually beats the odds and gets elected, he will not be able to do wo without owing a debt to support from conservative Christians.

Politicians aren't too good on the whole "remembering debts" thing:D

[drstevej]

I voted for Huck today in the LA primary and considered it no big deal since the process is pretty much over statistically.

I also voted against adding another Casino here in BR.

But the cool thing about today is the phone will stop for a while. The robo calls have been horrific.

[SolomonVII]

Politicians aren't too good on the whole "remembering debts" thing:D

Marx was wrong. Apathetic cyncism is is the opiate of the masses.
On the other hand, ask anyone who knows them from the outside. Ask any liberal, for example.
The Christian right is as obnoxious as any group in politics has ever been.
And in politics, it is the squeaky wheels that get the grease.
As far as Democrats go, the Christian right will be locked out of the room. But if any Republican manages to get elected, he will be locked into the same room as the Christian right. As far as the Christian right goes, it is better to be on the inside than on the outside.

[edb19]

Every election we are given the choice between two people who no one in their right mind would ever invite into their own homes.

The only person who was a president that I would ever let cross my thresh hold would be Jimmy Carter. Not because he was a great president, but because he is a great man.

Overall I agree with you - but to be honest, I bet current President & Mrs. Bush would be pretty darn fun to have at the dinner table.

Agree about Jimmy Carter too - never loved his politics (I remember >20% mortgage interest rates), but he is undoubtedly a great humanitarian (Habitat for Humanity is one of the greatest philanthropies out there)

[SolomonVII]

Hmm, well Clinton and Kennedy, I guess you would have to watch carefully around your sisters and daughters if they ever did step into your home. Reagan and Ford by all accounts were very fine people, even if their father were an alcoholic and a dead-beat dad respectively.

Nixon turned out to be rather foul-mouthed and obnoxious, but they say that George W Bush is a very warm and funny man in person.

Jimmy Carter is the one person out of the bunch that seems to be the most offensive to me.

[edb19]

read this column today and there's a lot of sense to what Jack Kelly says

http://jewishworldreview.com/0208/jkelly.php3

[SolomonVII]

read this column today and there's a lot of sense to what Jack Kelly says

http://jewishworldreview.com/0208/jkelly.php3


For this conservative, the paramount issue is winning the war on terror, because if we lose, nothing else will matter very much. Arguably, Sen. McCain is better suited than anyone else to lead us to victory.

The next most important issue to me is to appoint to the federal bench judges who will follow the Constitution. Sen. McCain supported the nominations of John Roberts and Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court, but some are trying to manufacture doubt about who he'd appoint. There's no doubt about what kind of judges Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama would choose.


These are the two issues that I see as being the most important too(although I think that calling it the War on 'Terror' is a misleading misnomer).

John Mcain is more solidly on the right side on these issue than are even many conservatives.

I see a lot of conservative commentaries frothing at the mouth about McCain's stance on immigration and the Latin American and Mexican illegal immigrations. But even if these conservatives are right on this issue, they are wrong. Politically speaking, this could be another issue which could well be another major demographic nightmare for the conservative cause. With 80 percent of Blacks already firmly entrenched against the party of Lincoln, is this really a mistake that Republicans would care to repeat for the next fastest expanding demographic group in the US?

The primaries demonstrate that Mcain has at least not alienated the Hispanic vote.

[MrJim]

There is an alternative to all this: consider yourself more a citizen of the Kingdom of God, which suspends time and borders, and less a citizen of this evanescent kingdom on earth. Time and history have shown that God manages these transitory administrations, while scripture teaches us the eternal consequences of simply "going about the Father's business". We will encounter the politics as we follow our calling, but as ambassadors of the Kingdom walking in faith, the king of any empire is of no true import and will soon fade to be relieved by another while our God remains ruler of our Kingdom. Regardless of the next elected chieftan our mission and calling does not change...
:preach:

[edb19]

Agree wholeheartedly Jim. We serve a sovereign God and whoever is elected president is there not by our whim but by that of a most holy and wise God who has a perfect plan for all.

[Rochir]

It's fun to sit back and watch the whole thing happen. I have practiced safe politics (abstaining) since 1984, don't participate in the process for personal and scriptural reasonings, ...

I find that a sad stand to choose! It's your right, of course, but still...

Hope you don't complain about politics because you thusly have no right to!:doh:

[MrJim]

I find that a sad stand to choose! It's your right, of course, but still...

Hope you don't complain about politics because you thusly have no right to!:doh:

I don't complain ma'am~it's my favorite sport to watch though I don't have a favorite team. The cultural/societal/religious dynamic is just amazing...and I don't find it sad at all. When I was a US Marine I was as "red, white and blue" as they came but have come to see that the Kingdom is so much bigger than political borders, and I have to work from that worldview since none of the others make sense (political conservative/liberal/moderate). My loyalty to the Kingdom of God is absolute; my loyalty to the USA/Constitution is ultimately nonexistent~not out of spite or hate or neglect, but I simply cannot serve two masters. I would expect Christians from other nations to have the same loyalties~unfortunately this doesn't happen, and then we find Christians shooting at each other in wars:doh:each thinking they are doing God's will (American War Between the States is a great example).

And no, I am no fan of the United Nations or "One World Gov't", am no great ecumenicist, am far more theologically conservative than most liberals will tolerate, so I can't get lumped into that group....but those like me are pretty nice folks;)

[SolomonVII]

I find that a sad stand to choose! It's your right, of course, but still...

Hope you don't complain about politics because you thusly have no right to!:doh:
I find that a sad stand to choose! It's your right, of course, but still..

As a conservative, I would stress the idea that it is as much a responsibility as a right.
Responsible government is not just our priviledge-it is our job as citizens.

[MrJim]

I find that a sad stand to choose! It's your right, of course, but still..

As a conservative, I would stress the idea that it is as much a responsibility as a right.
Responsible government is not just our priviledge-it is our job as citizens.

My job as a citizen? Must have missed that chapter and verse;)

[SolomonVII]

My job as a citizen? Must have missed that chapter and verse;)



"The Lord helps those who help themselves" is a chapter and verse that is not in the Bible.
Another verse not in the Bible is the tells us that "the only thing needed for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing".
"With great freedom comes great responsibility" is yet another.
But just because these verses are not in the Bible does not make unBiblical. Keeping the Bible relevant to life in the modern era requires a deeper reading than driving goats into the desert, or sprinklings of bull's blood, and other verses that definitely are in the Bible, both chapter and verse.

I can tell your mind is set though, and that there are aspects of life that are best enjoyed as spectator sports, best to be enjoyed as a circus with a loaf of bread.

Remins me of a song by Ten Years After,

"I'd love to change the world,
but I don't know what to do.
So I'll leave it up to You."

I am certain that involvement in a war would burn us all out though.

[MrJim]

My job as a citizen? Must have missed that chapter and verse;)



"The Lord helps those who help themselves" is a chapter and verse that is not in the Bible.
Another verse not in the Bible is the tells us that "the only thing needed for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing".
"With great freedom comes great responsibility" is yet another.
But just because these verses are not in the Bible does not make unBiblical. Keeping the Bible relevant to life in the modern era requires a deeper reading than driving goats into the desert, or sprinklings of bull's blood, and other verses that definitely are in the Bible, both chapter and verse.

I can tell your mind is set though, and that there are aspects of life that are best enjoyed as spectator sports, best to be enjoyed as a circus with a loaf of bread.

Remins me of a song by Ten Years After,

"I'd love to change the world,
but I don't know what to do.
So I'll leave it up to You."

I am certain that involvement in a war would burn us all out though.




What you are saying is that unless one is deeply involved in the political aspects of a society nothing else done as a Christian is worthwhile for that society. There you are wrong sport. I played the all american, wore the uniform, did my "duty", but it amounted to nothing. This is just another transient empire. The work done for the Kingdom is what will last.

And guess what~society is also a beneficiary of that Kingdom work. So I won't vote in your elections, serve on your juries, wage your wars, but I will feed your hungry, clothe your naked, and pray with and comfort the mourning, share the gospel with the neighbors, give money to the missionaries in Haiti and at the Pregnancy Center. Sorry if that ain't enough; if that still makes me a spectator in the world in which we live, then that is the calling I have, give me a seat cushion.

But political people such as yourselves believe that unless I'm actively campaigning for "God's Man" for office I'm "doing nothing so evil can triumph", which is simply incorrect. I've seen very little from politicians that gives me any hope. I've seen them use christians as chumps to get votes, then toss 'em aside to move toward their own agendas. I will not put my hopes in kings and chariots.

[SolomonVII]

[QUOTE]What you are saying is that unless one is deeply involved in the political aspects of a society nothing else done as a Christian is worthwhile for that society.

Oh gosh no. I wasn't implying that at all! Politics are but one of a citizens responsibilities!

There you are wrong sport. I played the all American, wore the uniform, did my "duty", but it amounted to nothing.
That is where you are wrong. the work that you do is very imortant! America is very much a part of God's plan too.

This is just another transient empire. The work done for the Kingdom is what will last.

You are being very cynical. The work that good people have been doing for two thousand years in the name of Christ have been of significant worth.
It is not as if we are just killing time until time kills us and then we go on to the real stuff. The work that we do right here right now, no matter how menial, is important.
And part of that job is politics.

And guess what~society is also a beneficiary of that Kingdom work.
Yes it is! Kingdom work extends into all aspects of what we do here.

So I won't vote in your elections, serve on your juries, wage your wars, but I will feed your hungry, clothe your naked, and pray with and comfort the mourning, share the gospel with the neighbors, give money to the missionaries in Haiti and at the Pregnancy Center.
This is all good. It is not alien from the political priocess either.

Sorry if that ain't enough; if that still makes me a spectator in the world in which we live, then that is the calling I have, give me a seat cushion.

Don't blame me for calling yourself a spectator. It was you yourself that compared yourself to the spectator.
I just picked up on the phrase that you were already using to describe what you are doing.

But political people such as yourselves believe that unless I'm actively campaigning for "God's Man" for office I'm "doing nothing so evil can triumph", which is simply incorrect.
I don't see anyone as "God's" man. Those who are looking for messiahs in political leaders will of course always be sorely disappointed.
There are no gods running for office here.

I've seen very little from politicians that gives me any hope. I've seen them use christians as chumps to get votes, then toss 'em aside to move toward their own agendas. I will not put my hopes in kings and chariots.

Democracy gives you a choice in such matters. To the extent that you take yourself out of the process, there will be no choice for you or your children. That is just how it goes.

[MrJim]

[quote=MrJim;43564187]

Oh gosh no. I wasn't implying that at all! Politics are but one of a citizens responsibilities!


That is where you are wrong. the work that you do is very imortant! America is very much a part of God's plan too.



You are being very cynical. The work that good people have been doing for two thousand years in the name of Christ have been of significant worth.
It is not as if we are just killing time until time kills us and then we go on to the real stuff. The work that we do right here right now, no matter how menial, is important.
And part of that job is politics.


Yes it is! Kingdom work extends into all aspects of what we do here.


This is all good. It is not alien from the political priocess either.



Don't blame me for calling yourself a spectator. It was you yourself that compared yourself to the spectator.
I just picked up on the phrase that you were already using to describe what you are doing.


I don't see anyone as "God's" man. Those who are looking for messiahs in political leaders will of course always be sorely disappointed.
There are no gods running for office here.

Democracy gives you a choice in such matters. To the extent that you take yourself out of the process, there will be no choice for you or your children. That is just how it goes.

It's a false choice~God selects the rulers of nations, I'll let Him make the decision.

America in God's plan? Haven't read it. God wants to use His Church, His Kingdom in this world. The nations are just pawns in this grand chess game. God is in the business of redeeming people for His Kingdom rather than redeeming national empires.

NOW if you are called to play in the politcal world, that is between you and God. It is very popular and sensational; I may very well be wrong, but I did sup from that table and found it lacking. I will not put my trust in kings and chariots, and that is was nationalism (or patriotism if you prefer) wants to do~"Yes we trust God, and good government and big bombs and lots of guns".

[Aibrean]

Everyone forgets about Ron Paul it seems.

[SwirlingEd]

There is an alternative to all this: consider yourself more a citizen of the Kingdom of God, which suspends time and borders, and less a citizen of this evanescent kingdom on earth. Time and history have shown that God manages these transitory administrations, while scripture teaches us the eternal consequences of simply "going about the Father's business". We will encounter the politics as we follow our calling, but as ambassadors of the Kingdom walking in faith, the king of any empire is of no true import and will soon fade to be relieved by another while our God remains ruler of our Kingdom. Regardless of the next elected chieftan our mission and calling does not change...
:preach:
:amen: :amen: :amen:

Read "The Myth of a Christian Nation" --Greg Boyd

[MrJim]

Regarding John McCain:

NARAL (http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elections/statements/mccain.html)has this to say about him:
Sen. John McCain served in the U.S. House of Representatives from 1983 to 1986 and in the U.S. Senate from 1987 to present. During his four years in the House, then-Rep. McCain cast 11 votes on abortion and other reproductive-rights issues. Ten of these votes were anti-choice. In the Senate, through 2006, Sen. McCain cast 117 votes on abortion and other reproductive-rights issues, 113 of which were anti-choice.

In addition to his solidly anti-choice record, Sen. McCain has never cosponsored or supported legislation that would prevent unintended pregnancy or reduce the need for abortion

In spite of his "maverick" ways, why isn't this enough for the right to get solidly behind him? If the pro-choice people don't like him isn't it enough?

[ScottBot]

I don't think Huck stands a chance, Romney is out. I can't in good conscience vote for McCain or Clinton or Obama.


I'm voting for Alan Keyes.
I'm writing Ronald Reagan in this year.

[mont974x4]

LOL have they infrozen his dead body with a cure for alzheimers?


Is Walt Disney next?

[ScottBot]

LOL have they infrozen his dead body with a cure for alzheimers?


Is Walt Disney next?
One can only hope. I find Walt and Ronald better than the cast of clowns we have to choose from this year. Even if they are dead.

[drstevej]

Our troops deserve better than Obama or Hillary.

[mont974x4]

And does anyone think mccain is honestly better for our troops? Better for our security as a nation?

[ScottBot]

And does anyone think mccain is honestly better for our troops? Better for our security as a nation?
There I give props to McCain. He respects the military and vice versa. Hard to detract from a guy that spend 5 years in the Hanoi Hilton.

[drstevej]

And does anyone think mccain is honestly better for our troops? Better for our security as a nation?

Than Hillary or Obama... YOU BETCHA

[mont974x4]

Sorry, not trying to dis his past service (and as a disabled vet I wouldn't even think of it) but I don't beleive he has the guts needed anymore. He may be willing to hold the fight in the GWOT but he wants to hamstring us by not securing our borders and closing gitmo.


As someone else has said, choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing an evil and I can't do that.

[drstevej]

he wants to hamstring us by not securing our borders and closing gitmo.


And Hillary and Obama will do otherwise?

[drstevej]

As someone else has said, choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing an evil and I can't do that.

Jesus isn't on the ticket. Politics is always the lesser of to imperfections.

[ScottBot]

And Hillary and Obama will do otherwise?
Close the border? They would be cutting of millions of future Democrat voters.

[mont974x4]

Jesus isn't on the ticket. Politics is always the lesser of to imperfections.
I'm not talking about two imperfect people...I'm talking about evil.


I swore an oath to defend the Constitution. Anyone doing harm to it, is therefore my enemy and is evil.

[ScottBot]

I'm not talking about two imperfect people...I'm talking about evil.


I swore an oath to defend the Constitution. Anyone doing harm to it, is therefore my enemy and is evil.
Here here.

[mont974x4]

Here here.
LOL Careful, you might get a bad rap being assoicated with me.....CF's own Christian anarchist.

[ScottBot]

LOL Careful, you might get a bad rap being assoicated with me.....CF's own Christian anarchist.
I've been known to ruffle a few feathers in my day.

[LuciusJulius]

I'm a Conservative Christian (what does that mean anyway, being politically conservative and a Christian?) and I don't find any of the current candidates that great at all. I would have voted for Huckabee if it weren't for him quitting or getting kicked off the election. I might just vote for whoever my parents will. I really don't know if there is any good Christian candidate still in the elections. The United States is doomed to failure in the eyes of God....oh wait, it already has been doomed...

[mont974x4]

Lucious, do a Google on Ron Paul and Alan Keyes.

You'd have to write them in though.

[Izdaari]

Everyone forgets about Ron Paul it seems.
I haven't forgotten him, and I may yet vote for him. The Washington primary is Feb. 19, and in WA on the Republican side, it counts for 51% of the delegate selection.

But I have mixed feelings about Ron Paul. I voted for him before when he ran on the Libertarian Party ticket in 1988, but I'm not so sure about doing that post-9/11. I like his domestic policy positions, but I think his radically non-interventionist foreign policy would be both naive and dangerous in today's world.

[edb19]

Everyone forgets about Ron Paul it seems.

my daughter is a senior in college - she says he is the most talked about candidate on campus

[LonesomeTexan]

Alan Keyes first, followed by Ron Paul. I'd vote for Huckabee if he took the GOP nomination, but he isn't going to. I'll either sit at home in November, or vote third party depending on who is running.

[drstevej]

Could ya vote for McCain-Conde Rice

[LonesomeTexan]

Could ya vote for McCain-Conde Rice
no. McCain Paul or McCain Keyes maybe. that isn't going to happen though.

[mont974x4]

I like Condie but i would fear for her safety if she were elected, or even ran.

[ScottBot]

I like Condie but i would fear for her safety if she were elected, or even ran.
She technically wouldn't be running, but rather tagging along.

[mont974x4]

She technically wouldn't be running, but rather tagging along.
In the past perhaps, but it seems the veep's are getting more chances to debate/campaign.


Regardless, I would still fear for her safety. A black woman running for such a high office who happens to be intelligent, articulate and devoted to her causes is a threat and real target for some nutjobs out there.


Of course, God will place the people in power He chooses to fulfill His will.

[LonesomeTexan]

Did anyone here actually like Romney? Something about him just rubbed me the wrong way. He gave off Bill Clinton type vibe. He was just another politician to me. I suppose his sudden change of heart on abortion and his morman faith bothered me some too. The guy just seemed fake.

[mont974x4]

Yeah I couldn't put a finger on it but something about Romeny just felt off to me.

[ScottBot]

In the past perhaps, but it seems the veep's are getting more chances to debate/campaign.


Regardless, I would still fear for her safety. A black woman running for such a high office who happens to be intelligent, articulate and devoted to her causes is a threat and real target for some nutjobs out there.


Of course, God will place the people in power He chooses to fulfill His will.
I just can't wait until she gets the "she doesn't really represent the black community because she's a Republican" rigamarole from Revrund Sharpton.

[mont974x4]

I just can't wait until she gets the "she doesn't really represent the black community because she's a Republican" rigamarole from Revrund Sharpton.
Yeah wasn't it sharpton or jackson who called powell something rather racist that I won't repeat here?

[ScottBot]

Yeah wasn't it sharpton or jackson who called powell something rather racist that I won't repeat here?
I think the term you are looking for is "Uncle Tom". Its reserved for anyone who doesn't toe the NAACP line.

[mont974x4]

I think the term you are looking for is "Uncle Tom". Its reserved for anyone who doesn't toe the NAACP line.
There was that one but wasn't he also called the "house (N word)" by someone?

[ScottBot]

There was that one but wasn't he also called the "house (N word)" by someone?
Ack! Don't know about that one. Mama mia!

[edb19]

I've said for years that I'd love to see Secretary Rice run for president/vice president. She's probably smarter than the rest of the presidential candidates combined - certainly has a better understanding of international politics than the rest of them.

That said - do I think she'll ever run - sadly no. She entered national politics at the request of her good friend, President Bush. When he's done, I think she'll be done.

[drstevej]

Condie would make a great VP.

[edb19]

Condie would make a great VP.

she has been and will continue to be great at whatever she undertakes

[mont974x4]

This is how I expressed my thoughts on a thread at another messageboard discussing this issue......

I know doing a write in will pretty well guarantee a democrat White House. However, I am at the point where I can no longer stomach choosing the lesser of two evils, as someone else pointed out sometime in the last couple of weeks, that would still be choosing an evil. Honestly, my conscious just can't hanlde the compromise I would have to make in order to vote McCain just for the sake of voting against another candidate.


I do understand why people will eventually hold their nose and vote McCain, I just don't have it in me anymore. Regardless of the dark road these candidates will take us down, I will continue to stand for what I know and believe is right. In fact, I am thinking it is just another step towards the end of the US and God fulfilling His prophecies regarding the end times.


So, I will vote my conscience, rest in Him, and hang on.





Jay

[mont974x4]

let's see if this works
http://kindalikesorta.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/president-candidates-2008-cereal-box.jpg

[MrJim]

let's see if this works
http://kindalikesorta.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/president-candidates-2008-cereal-box.jpg

:D
http://kindalikesorta.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/president-candidates-2008-cereal-box.jpg

[ScottBot]

:D
http://kindalikesorta.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/president-candidates-2008-cereal-box.jpg
That is about the most profoundly relevant picture I have seen this political season.

[WannaWitness]

The world of politics in general just disappoints me these days. :sigh:

[dee42]

I have researched each and every candidate with a Christian view and the only two candidates with the same Christian views are Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee. However, the only completely honest, christian candidate is Ron Paul. I like Huckabee's ideas but he keeps reminding us that he is a minister but he dropped out....so he's not. And for that reason, I cross him off my list. I am voting for Ron Paul.

[Simon_Templar]

The state of politics directly reflects the state of the people :) hows that for depressing

[MrJim]

The state of politics directly reflects the state of the people :) hows that for depressing

Every change presents its own opportunities...

[drstevej]

Dear Abby:

My husband is a liar and a cheat. He has cheated on me from the
beginning, and, when I confront him, he denies everything. What's worse,
everyone knows that he cheats on me. It is so humiliating.

Also, since he lost his job six years ago, he hasn't even looked for
a new one. All he does all day is smoke cigars, cruise around and
shoot the breeze with his buddies while I have to work to pay the bills.

Since our daughter went away to college he doesn't even pretend to
like me and hints that I may be a lesbian. What should I do?

Signed: Clueless



Dear Clueless:

Grow up and dump him. Good grief, woman. You don't need him anymore!
You're a United States Senator from New York running for President of
the United States. Act like one!

[MrJim]

^_^ ^_^