Going Kosher!!!!

[brentsbaby612]

Excuse me while I scream! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! :D

Ok....much better! This is way harder than I thought. It not that it's so hard to eat kosher, it's just hard because everyone else does not! I can't find any kosher meat! Are we(me and my family) just not suppose to eat meat? I'm a serious carnivore. I got to have meat! And I found out about no more jello! It's made out of animal bones! :sick: Also my favorite cherry cola drink; the "cherry flavor" in it...it's made out of cat's spit! YES! CAT SPIT! What idiot was peting his cat one day and thought "Hmmmmmm, maybe her spit will taste good in cherry cola"! I mean.. Come On People!
Ohh, but my hubby's Dr Pepper remains untouch! Lucky for him, Dr Pepper Is Kosher! And did you know glycerin, which is a common ingredent, is made out of pig holves! That's greedy corporate america for ya! I would think however that it would be cheapier to use the vegetable source of glycerin but whatever. Do people know they are eatting this junk?! Probably not because then no one in there right mind would buy it! All this time I thought I was avoiding pork, just to find out I've been eatting pigs holves! Has this world gone mad?:mad:

[torahlife]

It's like when we observed our first Pesach and week of unleavened bread, I starved myself!!!!!!

Now it's time to find the pork substitutes. There is turkey bacon, beef bacon, turkey or beef franks, even turkey or beef sausage. Look out for the so called beef sausage links because the beef is packed inside pork intestines!!!!! :mad:

Yes, the additives to food will kill us subversly before the obvious!

What soda has cat spit in it???????Yuck!!!!!

Pork became the staple meat centuries ago because pigs are cheaper to raise than cattle.

It's takes awhile for the family to get used to your new eating habits as every family get-together some one brings ham or they add bacon to the side dishes. Don't give up as it becomes second nature to you, you're family will get over your wierdness and some will even make it a point to bring a dish just for you!!!!!! :yum:

Blessings,
torahlife

[WildCelt]

Has this world gone mad?:mad:

Yes, yes it has.
:)

[debi b]

Only a few people understood why I was so excited to find kosher marshmallows locally this year! We have been goin without smores at the campfire way too long. When I went up to the checkout line with 12 bags (we can only find these things during Passover) they looked at me a little funny ^_^

[Talmidah]

Brentsbaby,

Do you live near an Jewish areas? I do most of my shopping in the kosher markets in the Jewish section of Los Angeles (I'm about 20 minutes from there). There are places that ship kosher foods, but I don't know how expensive it would be. This is definitely where living in an observant community would be so helpful!! When I'm not able to get to the market, we basically do eat vegetarian. Lots of beans, rice, potatos, and vegetables...I don't mind, but my husband is like you and needs his meat to be happy!

It really is disgusting all the things that are added to foods. And it can get frustrating and tiring to have to look through all of the ingredients in every food you buy. And people just eat it up without even considering what they are putting into their bodies.

I don't know about cherry cola, but there is kosher gelatin made from fish bones. I have not made it at home, but my kids have had it in kosher restaurants. You might want to check into that.

As torahlife said, it will become second nature to you. I began eating 'biblically kosher' in high school and a few years ago became completely kosher and now keep a kosher home. It really does get easier as you go along. :)

[brentsbaby612]

:) Thanks for the support!
The cherry cola's not a big deal, I was just surprized to find that out!
I can easily give it up now!^_^ We haven't eatten pork for 7 years(or so we thought),and I have found a kosher meat market but it's on the other side of town(two hours). Guess we'll be taking a road trip every month! First I need a big freezer! Does anyone know the difference between kosher salt and table salt. I googled it but found nothing.
What soda has cat spit in it???????Yuck!!!!!
It's a local soda company around here. I liked it because the ingredents were so simple. I'm going to check the others!
Only a few people understood why I was so excited to find kosher marshmallows locally this year! We have been goin without smores at the campfire way too long. When I went up to the checkout line with 12 bags (we can only find these things during Passover) they looked at me a little funny
Oh yeah! That's going to be me to!^_^

[Talmidah]

Does anyone know the difference between kosher salt and table salt. I googled it but found nothing.
Kosher salt is named that way basically because it is used in the kashering process. The granules are larger than regular salt and there are no preservatives. These draw out moisture and any remaining blood from the meat. My daughter insists that she likes to flavor things with kosher salt because it tastes 'less salty'. But anyway, there is nothing that makes kosher salt more 'kosher' than regular table salt :)

[Plan 9]

Kosher salt is named that way basically because it is used in the kashering process. The granules are larger than regular salt and there are no preservatives. These draw out moisture and any remaining blood from the meat. My daughter insists that she likes to flavor things with kosher salt because it tastes 'less salty'. But anyway, there is nothing that makes kosher salt more 'kosher' than regular table salt :)


I don't know how to find any kosher food that isn't hideously expensive; we have only one synagogue, and when our newspaper did a big spread for Passover, interviewing two Orthodox jewish families, one family brought their Passover food from St. Louis because they felt our selection was so small.
Debi b., in one of the newpapers photos, one of the children was holding a Kosher bag of marshmallows to her breast, as though the bag were a new baby doll. :)

BB, I really don't see how any soft drink could be made with catspit; it would be far too expensive, and I don;t think catspit would work, either.. flavorings are made from chemicals called esters. What they do is affect our sense of smell, causing us to smell cherries, becuase our sense of smell is the source of all taste except the perception of sweet, bitter, salty, etc., which our taste buds handle.
A rumor went around for years that Dr. Pepper was made from prune juice, also untrue, or I'd be in real trouble. ;)

Yes, the base for gelatin is said to be primarily cow hooves. Lately, because of fears associated with Mad Cow Disease, articles are coming out which assert that other erm...cow "materials" are also included, but I haven't been able to verify that, and, because a friend of mine from Washington state was quite frightened, I have done my best to turn myself into the Compleat C-Jv Expert. Can we all say, "Way too much free time?" I know we can if we try. ;)
(I know it's not a strictly religious subject, but if anyone here wants a thread on that, just let me know. :sigh:)

[Plan 9]

Kosher salt is named that way basically because it is used in the kashering process. The granules are larger than regular salt and there are no preservatives. These draw out moisture and any remaining blood from the meat. My daughter insists that she likes to flavor things with kosher salt because it tastes 'less salty'. But anyway, there is nothing that makes kosher salt more 'kosher' than regular table salt :)

Would you happen to know if Kosher table salt comes iodized? :)

[Talmidah]

Would you happen to know if Kosher table salt comes iodized? :)I am not sure. Mine is not iodized and I don't think I've ever seen iodized kosher salt, but perhaps it does exist. I'll try to check and get back to you if someone doesn't know the answer off hand.

[Plan 9]

I am not sure. Mine is not iodized and I don't think I've ever seen iodized kosher salt, but perhaps it does exist. I'll try to check and get back to you if someone doesn't know the answer off hand.


Thank you, Talmidah. When you have time, that would be wonderful.
I salt my food a lot, and a doctor friend once asked me if I had thyroid problems when we were eating lunch. When I said, yes, I had in childhood, she pointed out that the cough syrup my doctor had given me had a iodide base, and since I'd been taking it, I had stopped salting my food, which I hadn't noticed; I was still sort of waving the salt shaker over it, out of habit.
If it's available, it's at least something I could afford, and since I do use so much salt, I would feel more Torah observant. :sigh:

[brentsbaby612]

Kosher salt is named that way basically because it is used in the kashering process. The granules are larger than regular salt and there are no preservatives. These draw out moisture and any remaining blood from the meat. My daughter insists that she likes to flavor things with kosher salt because it tastes 'less salty'. But anyway, there is nothing that makes kosher salt more 'kosher' than regular table salt


Ha ha, that's good to know. Don't I feel dumb!:blush:

[brentsbaby612]

I am not sure. Mine is not iodized and I don't think I've ever seen iodized kosher salt, but perhaps it does exist. I'll try to check and get back to you if someone doesn't know the answer off hand.

Is it unbiblical for salt to be iodized?

BB, I really don't see how any soft drink could be made with catspit; it would be far too expensive, and I don;t think catspit would work, either.. Flavorings are made from chemicals called asters. What they do is affect our sense of smell, causeing us to smell cherries, becuase our sense of smell is the source of all taste except the perception of sweet, bitter, salty, etc., which our taste buds handle.
A rumor went around for years that Dr. Pepper was made from prune juice, also untrue, or I'd be in real trouble.

Hold on, I'm looking for the website on the cat spit cherry cola.

[Yael]

I didn'e actually look when this thread first went up. I hope you aren't jumping into the whole ball of wax at once. It might be easy if you are a strict vegan or vegtarian. I had no trouble with the pork part. The meat and cheese combo was the first hurtle for me. The next big one was the butter on vegetables and the mashed potatoes. I think the hardest one has been keeping the meat and milk seperated out by three hours. (Thankfully I am a yekke :)).

Kashrut is not cheap. There's no way around it. The meat prices are staggering. If you live near a major city- i.e. Baltimore, Chicago, etc... a field trip every few months might help.

I could suggest the Star-K site for information. I found a nice website on www.shemayisrael.com/j/keepingkosher/toc.html that has nice information on keeping kosher in a nonkosher world.

You know your medications can carry problems too with being kosher. It can be mind boggling.

[brentsbaby612]

In the old days, many people would just take a package and look at the ingredients to determine whether the product is kosher. I take it things are no longer that simple.

That is correct. Let me give you an example. We recently checked a name brand cherry soda. The ingredients listed only: water, sugar, cherry flavor and carbonation. It seems simple enough. Well, what is in that cherry flavor? First of all, it has sherry wine. It also has (which could be found in any flavor) something called castorium which comes from a beaver! And there was an additional ingredient called civet, which comes from a cat!

I'm still looking for the thing on cat spit. It wasn't a jewish site so you may be right. But I found this!! And it is from a jewish page. I googled civet and still can't find what part of the cat it came from. But I got this from http://www.crcweb.org/Articles/FJewishChicago.htm
It actually a pretty interesting article.

[brentsbaby612]

Ahhhhhhhhhh!
No! I was wrong!!! It's not cat spit! It's cat intestines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Quick someone! I need a major detox! That's IT! Nothing but kosher for me! Forget the cost of it! OHhhhhhh, I think I'm going to be sick!:sick:

[Plan 9]

In the old days, many people would just take a package and look at the ingredients to determine whether the product is kosher. I take it things are no longer that simple.

That is correct. Let me give you an example. We recently checked a name brand cherry soda. The ingredients listed only: water, sugar, cherry flavor and carbonation. It seems simple enough. Well, what is in that cherry flavor? First of all, it has sherry wine. It also has (which could be found in any flavor) something called castorium which comes from a beaver! And there was an additional ingredient called civet, which comes from a cat!

I'm still looking for the thing on cat spit. It wasn't a jewish site so you may be right. But I found this!! And it is from a jewish page. I googled civet and still can't find what part of the cat it came from. But I got this from http://www.crcweb.org/Articles/FJewishChicago.htm
It actually a pretty interesting article.

Civet is a substance with a musklike scent produced by the scent glands of civet cats, which inhabit, Africa, India, Malaysia, and Sothern China. Civet is commonly used in making some perfumes. It's not part of any animal intestine, but is instead a fatty, yellowish glandular secretion, which is far too expensive to be used as a flavoring in soft drinks, and I hate to imagine what such a soft drink might taste like, but it sure wouldn't be cherry flavored.
As I understand it, artificial chemical substitutes for both civet and ambergris are used when making cologne so that it doesn't cost $40 an ounce, but as you know, decent cologne is still quite expensive.
BB, if you're anxious about the contents of any soft drink, your best bet might be to check the ingredients and choose one which has all artificial flavor, but no American soft drink will contain civet musk; I promise you!

I drink Dr. Civet and I'm proud!
I used to be alone in the crowd..."

Wowser, BB! You just think you were grossed out!! eek!! Yeesh!!

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oh, sorry. It must have been something I read in the encyclopedia.

[JewishHeart]

When I lived in the hububs of Middle Tennessee I kept basic kashrut. I still ate meat not knowing if it was strangled or not (since I knew not of any kosher store). I did not eat pork, shrimp, shellfish, etc. Just basic kosher from basic biblical standards. As many know, I believe oral Torah is of no effect in my life so I never kept the milk and meat seperation.

Today my wife and I try to buy kosher meat, at Passover we only buy stamped "kosher for Pesach" products, we still eat meat and milk together, although that may change soon since we have so many orthodox friends who want to eat with us. It is ten times easier to keep kosher in Israel. Even in restaurants, there are meat restaurants and milk restaurants. One can only make the two together at home ( there goes my spaghetti, meetballs, and parmasean cheese). There goes a good lasagna too!! WY!!! I am so glad I don't believe in the meat-milk law.

[JewishHeart]

BTW- both in America and in Israel so many people laugh at the orthodox whose jobs are too stamp things kosher...many times they eat a whole days worth of food too determine (many of them are chubby hahahaha!)!

[Plan 9]

I didn'e actually look when this thread first went up. I hope you aren't jumping into the whole ball of wax at once. It might be easy if you are a strict vegan or vegtarian. I had no trouble with the pork part. The meat and cheese combo was the first hurtle for me. The next big one was the butter on vegetables and the mashed potatoes. I think the hardest one has been keeping the meat and milk seperated out by three hours. (Thankfully I am a yekke :)).

Thank you, Yael, for your excellent advice! :)

Please, what is a yekke?

Kashrut is not cheap. There's no way around it. The meat prices are staggering. If you live near a major city- i.e. Baltimore, Chicago, etc... a field trip every few months might help.

I live nowhere near a major city. :sigh:

I could suggest the Star-K site for information. I found a nice website on www.shemayisrael.com/j/keepingkosher/toc.html that has nice information on keeping kosher in a nonkosher world.

Thanks for the site link...

You know your medications can carry problems too with being kosher. It can be mind boggling.

and this warning!
I take enough different medications every day to choke a horse. My doctor's refrain over the last two years has been, "Look! If we switch you to this new medication, you'll only have to take it once a day, instead of four times a day!" Then I get as excited as she is. I just got my month's prescription meds today, and there are 13 bottles here. arrh, matey!

[JewishHeart]

yekke is a yiddish term meaning someone who is very tight and strict on their money and on all legal matters

[brentsbaby612]

Here's another site I found!
http://www.kosherquest.org/html/beverage_july_2000.htm
It has a lot of good info too! It also says"As with coffees and teas, flavorings can pose serious kashrus problems in soft drinks and sodas. Such problem flavors include grape and civet (cat intestines), among others.And this.."An additional problem for the kosher consumer may include the ingredient "castorium" found in some sodas today. Castorium is actually derived from the beaver glands and is found in some berry flavored drinks. The FDA, for example, allows beverage bottling companies to combine many flavors together under the generic title "artificial flavors." I don't know, maybe civet musk is the more expensive version or something

No big deal. I was mostly playing around anyway.:)
I am however very concerned with what companies are putting in our food. That's why me and my husband have descided to go kosher! I am "non-rabbinic" so I not sure how far kosher to go. Guess I've got a lot of reading to do!

[Henaynei]

I am not sure. Mine is not iodized and I don't think I've ever seen iodized kosher salt, but perhaps it does exist. I'll try to check and get back to you if someone doesn't know the answer off hand.
I believe if you check the MOrton's Iodized Salt you will find that it is kosher

There are several sea salts available at the health food store that are also kosher

[Henaynei]

I take enough different medications every day to choke a horse. My doctor's refrain over the last two years has been, "Look! If we switch you to this new medication, you'll only have to take it once a day, instead of four times a day!" Then I get as excited as she is. I just got my month's prescription meds today, and there are 13 bottles here. arrh, matey!
The issue can come down to the old familiar "saving a life, preventing suffering" being the over ridding mitzvah - certainly if a sufficiently efficacious replacement for a medicine can be found go kosher but if not use the wisdom of the rabbis ;)

[Plan 9]

I believe if you check the MOrton's Iodized Salt you will find that it is kosher

There are several sea salts available at the health food store that are also kosher

Cool, Henny! I've been using Kosher salt all along! Thanks! :)

[Plan 9]

The issue can come down to the old familiar "saving a life, preventing suffering" being the over ridding mitzvah - certainly if a sufficiently efficacious replacement for a medicine can be found go kosher but if not use the wisdom of the rabbis ;)

Do you happen to have any idea of what might be so different about eating Kosher foods which might cause a medicine to be contraindicated?

I know that the MAOIs are dangerous when combined with many common foods, but that's the only med classification of which I know that to be true.

[Henaynei]

Remember that the decision about what is or is not kosher involves also:
the packaging, what kind of material it is, how many layers must it be, how porous it is or isn't,
the equipment on which it is prepared, what else is prepared on that equipment, how it is cleaned between {*can* it be adequately cleaned?}, what products are used to clean it and what products are used to keep it running,
how the "kosher" product is handled and stored until shipping,
how and where a "kosher" product is shipped and stored..... to name a few

[JewishHeart]

heynanei,

I'm glad again that I live in Israel...just buy the non-oddball products at every store.
For those who don't live in Israel, try to live biblically kosher and thank G-d for grace...don't go crazy.

[Henaynei]

each according to his calling, each according to his conscience ;)

besides Jews have the *best* word for being crazy!! meshuginah!!

[JewishHeart]

us messianics , including myself, love to be meshugaim !!!!!!hehehehahahahohoho

[Yael]

yekke is a yiddish term meaning someone who is very tight and strict on their money and on all legal matters


Yekke is also a German Jew.

[Plan 9]

us messianics , including myself, love to be meshugaim !!!!!!hehehehahahahohoho

Once you've posted with me more, my friend, you'll find out that being meshuginah is not a choice for me, so I might as well love it. ;)

[Plan 9]

Yekke is also a German Jew.

yekke is a yiddish term meaning someone who is very tight and strict on their money and on all legal matters

thank you, Yael and JH. :)

Yael, are you definition 1, 2, or both?

[JewishHeart]

yes yekke is also a german jew....here in israel it has come to mean both

[brentsbaby612]

You know your medications can carry problems too with being kosher. It can be mind boggling.

Yeah! I've even got kosher toothpaste! Now I know you don't eat toothpaste, but I prefer anything that goes into my mouth to be kosher.:D

[Yael]

I am of German descent. The alternative meaning I find as having the potential to be a bit insulting.

[Plan 9]

Here's another site I found!
http://www.kosherquest.org/html/beverage_july_2000.htm
It has a lot of good info too! It also says"As with coffees and teas, flavorings can pose serious kashrus problems in soft drinks and sodas. Such problem flavors include grape and civet (cat intestines), among others.And this.."An additional problem for the kosher consumer may include the ingredient "castorium" found in some sodas today. Castorium is actually derived from the beaver glands and is found in some berry flavored drinks. The FDA, for example, allows beverage bottling companies to combine many flavors together under the generic title "artificial flavors." I don't know, maybe civet musk is the more expensive version or something

No big deal. I was mostly playing around anyway.:)
I am however very concerned with what companies are putting in our food. That's why me and my husband have descided to go kosher! I am "non-rabbinic" so I not sure how far kosher to go. Guess I've got a lot of reading to do!


Well, dang it, BB! I've already sent an entire case of Dr. Civet to you by UPS! What am I supposed to do now?

You know, the FDA is so weird! Sometimes they're so strict as to be foolish, yet nothing from an organic creature can be artificial.
They were horrible to the Prune Growers of America! All the PGA (whoops, that acronym is already taken. lol) wanted to do was label their prunes "Dried Plums", and that's what they are. The FDA jerked them around for two years, made them spend a pile of money preparing reports on things like European marketing predictions of the possible effects of the name change, and now packages of prunes are labeled both prunes and dried plums. So they protected us from being fooled by the nefarious Prune Growers of America into believing that prunes are really dried plums, when they are...but have you read the FDA standards for hotdogs? A hotdog can have a certain percentage of cockroach parts in it with no problem, and they have carefully designated just what percentage is allowable.
Since I read that, even all-beef weiners have been designated dog treats only in my home...I find I have to be pretty desperate to eat a hotdog since reading that.

Anyone here know if cockroaches are Kosher? :eek:

[Plan 9]

I am of German descent. The alternative meaning I find as having the potential to be a bit insulting.


Yes, I'd say that there's more than the potential for that. It's like "Dutch treat", or "Welsh Rabbit", and a lot of sayings about the Scots.
I suppose it is a good thing to know about legal matters. Or is that not meant in a positive way, either? :eek:

[Plan 9]

Yeah! I've even got kosher toothpaste! Now I know you don't eat toothpaste, but I prefer anything that goes into my mouth to be kosher.:D

That's pretty cool! We can't help but consume a little of our toothpaste when we brush our teeth.

[Talmidah]

I believe if you check the MOrton's Iodized Salt you will find that it is kosher

There are several sea salts available at the health food store that are also kosher
Yes, I was trying to explain that there is nothing about kosher salt that makes it any more kosher than regular salt. It is only called "Kosher Salt" because it is the type used for kashering meats.

[Henaynei]

You all are doing so well - I want you to know this is *JUST* a general and generic admonition :)

MOD Reminder: This topic often is *the quintessential* topic to engender digressions that take the "wrong" path. Remember that the stated purpose of this subforum is the discussion of *how,* not *why* or *whether or not* one can obey the mitzvot.

I applaud and encourage your continued vigilance in keeping to the topic and purpose.

You folks are awesome!

b'Shalom
Henaynei
Moderator
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[WildCelt]

For those who don't live in Israel, try to live biblically kosher and thank G-d for grace...don't go crazy.

I think this is excellent advice, toda!

[brentsbaby612]

Well, dang it, BB! I've already sent an entire case of Dr. Civet to you by UPS! What am I supposed to do now?

^_^! That's okay, I'll just feed it to the dogs! opps! Oh ya I don't have any dogs! Henny has dogs!! I'll just forward it to her.
A hotdog can have a certain percentage of cockroach parts in it with no problem, and they have carefully designated just what percentage is allowable.

Yuck! Thats a big reason that for 7 years now I will eat no hotdog unless it is Hebrew National! http://www.hebrewnational.com/index.jsp
There slogan is " We answer to a Higher Authority". Now that's my kind of company!
Most grocery stores in my area carry them. Ohhhhhh ya! they got T-shirts! I'm getting me a T-shirt!^_^ I'll be a walking billboard for kosher!

[Henaynei]

^_^! That's okay, I'll just feed it to the dogs! opps! Oh ya I don't have any dogs! Henny has dogs!! I'll just forward it to her.
Thanks ----------- I think............ ;)

Yuck! Thats a big reason that for 7 years now I will eat no hotdog unless it is Hebrew National! http://www.hebrewnational.com/index.jsp
There slogan is " We answer to a Higher Authority". Now that's my kind of company!
Most grocery stores in my area carry them. Ohhhhhh ya! they got T-shirts! I'm getting me a T-shirt!^_^ I'll be a walking billboard for kosher!
I like the commercials with the nebbish and the hotdog stand where G-d tells him he's gonna marry the beach babe IF he takes her a kosher hotdog!!! LOL

[Henaynei]

BTW - if you think keeping Kosher is more fun than a body ought to have you need to try to do the Atkins diet and keep kosher!!! ;)

[brentsbaby612]

BTW - if you think keeping Kosher is more fun than a body ought to have you need to try to do the Atkins diet and keep kosher!!!

Sounds fun!;) but I couldn't live without my pita bread!
I eat organic and keep kosher, but most products that are certified organic are also certified kosher. So I have it a lot easier! :D

[Henaynei]

Sounds fun!;) but I couldn't live without my pita bread!
I eat organic and keep kosher, but most products that are certified organic are also certified kosher. So I have it a lot easier! :DLOL - you *think* so huh?? all you can eat is kosher meat ($$$$$), kosher cheese ($$$), kosher fish ($$$$) or kosher eggs ($ok) - We get REAL tired of so many eggs!! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/16/16_3_122.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001) and scrambled is just about the only we can have them as ways like soft boiled or poached just make no sense without toast or grits or *something* - LOL

And all the wonderful Atkins and Atkins-esk recipies out there call for shellfish or meat and cheese combinations!! I'm STILL trying to find a support site for Kosher Atkins!! LOL

how many ways can you serve scrambled or hard boiled eggs!! EKK!

BTW - that is one beautiful baby!!! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/15/15_2_129.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001)

[brentsbaby612]

And all the wonderful Atkins and Atkins-esk recipies out there call for shellfish or meat and cheese combinations!! I'm STILL trying to find a support site for Kosher Atkins!! LOL

LOL ^_^ -Maybe you could start one here!


BTW - that is one beautiful baby!!!

Aww! thank you! :) I've gotten real good at typing one handed.^_^(he's always in my lap!:))

[Mikhael]

Shalom everyone,

Is there kosher food that is not extremely expensive? Yes you find it all throughout your grocery store. You want to look for what is called a Hekhshur. That is a symbol found on the label of a particular product much like a trademark symbol. The most popular one, and a good one for reputation, is the U in a circle. It is the Union of Orthodoxy symbol. Other ones are a K in a triangle, or a K in a star, etc. At the bottom of this I'll lplace a link that has reliable (Orthodox) kosher symbols for you to use. They exist all over your local food store. However, there are not many places that serve Kosher meat. One cannot take a piece of meat from your local store, throw some salt on it, rinse it off and call it kosher. There is no such thing as eating biblically kosher either. You can eat clean animals, but even the Bible says that it has to be slaughtered properly. For that you need meat from your local kosher butcher.

Do not get me wrong, if you have no kosher meat around, what can you do? You basically have two choices, you eat unkosher meat and stick to clean animals or you stop eating meat. You can make the choice and neither one is necessarily wrong, but don't fool yourself that there is some second level of kashrus called biblically kosher. There's kosher and not kosher, that's it.

The reason you use kosher salt is that it's a larger grain/flake. It's a lot like margarita salt. When you're salting your meat if you use table salt then it ends up soaking into the meat and you have yourself one salty steak. However using rock salt doesn't draw the blood out of the meat. The kosher salt is large enough that the meat doesn't become overly salty and yet it still draws out blood.

Hope it was cool to jump into the conversation. Have a great day!

Be Well,
Mikha'el

[Mikhael]

This thing won't let me post the link because I've not posted enough times or something. I'll see if Simchat Torah can post the link for me.

Be Well,
Mikha'el

[simchat_torah]

oopps.. yeah, I forgot about that... brb...

[simchat_torah]

here we go:

http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm (http://65.54.187.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=bb4524695c0cb7ccce2bf024ff1fd69e&lat=1085454799&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ekosherquest%2eorg%2fhtml%2fReliable_Kosher_Symbols%2ehtm)

[Henaynei]

When I click on that url I get the following:
http://65.54.187.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=bb4524695c0cb7ccce2bf024ff1fd69e&lat=1085454799&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ekosherquest%2eorg%2fhtml%2fReliable_Kosher_Symbols%2ehtm
Your email message has been idle and this link has become inactive. To access the link, close this window and return to your Message. Then click the browser's Refresh button or close your message and reopen it.

However, if I just copy and paste (NOT "copy link" but JUST copy) I get the right page ;)

[simchat_torah]

strange... which web browser are you using, and what version? (if it's internet explorer, click on help at the top right menu and go down to "about internet explorer" to find the version)

[Plan 9]

strange... which web browser are you using, and what version? (if it's internet explorer, click on help at the top right menu and go down to "about internet explorer" to find the version)

My Netscape browser does that, along with many other things I don't understand. :sigh:

[brentsbaby612]

Is there kosher food that is not extremely expensive? Yes you find it all throughout your grocery store. You want to look for what is called a Hekhshur. That is a symbol found on the label of a particular product much like a trademark symbol. The most popular one, and a good one for reputation, is the U in a circle. It is the Union of Orthodoxy symbol. Other ones are a K in a triangle, or a K in a star, etc

Yeah, some companies put a regular K on their products. They can do this because you cannot trademark a letter of the alphabet. But it means nothing, just that they think it is kosher. Jello has a K on it and it is made out of animal bones!

One cannot take a piece of meat from your local store, throw some salt on it, rinse it off and call it kosher. There is no such thing as eating biblically kosher either.

I eat kosher meat because of there strict slaughter house rules. They don't get chunks of brain in their ground beef and stuff. And the blood draining and everything, it's just cleaner! I do claim to eat biblically kosher though because I don't keep the no meat with milk rule. While there is a Biblical prohibition not to boil a young goat or sheep in its mother's milk, there is no such prohibition against eating milk and meat together. So I say that I am biblically kosher so as not to confuse anyone!:)

[simchat_torah]

If it's a k in a circle, or triangle, you're all good.

[brentsbaby612]

If it's a k in a circle, or triangle, you're all good.


Or a Star!!! Don't forget the star!!!
^_^*chuckles at herself because she is such a dork!*

[Talmidah]

When I click on that url I get the following:
http://65.54.187.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=bb4524695c0cb7ccce2bf024ff1fd69e&lat=1085454799&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ekosherquest%2eorg%2fhtml%2fReliable_Kosher_Symbols%2ehtm (http://65.54.187.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=bb4524695c0cb7ccce2bf024ff1fd69e&lat=1085454799&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ekosherquest%2eorg%2fhtml%2fReliable_Kosher_Symbols%2ehtm)
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Try this:
Reliable Kosher Symbols (http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm)

[Sephania]

BTW - if you think keeping Kosher is more fun than a body ought to have you need to try to do the Atkins diet and keep kosher!!! ;)
You probably already know of this Henaynei but just in case you don't thought this might help you a little

http://www.lowcarbnexus.com/kosher.html

[Sephania]

I am trying to find a site that has a listing of products that are kosher, not foods, but products, , brand name stuff, anyone here run into something like that?

[Talmidah]

I am trying to find a site that has a listing of products that are kosher, not foods, but products, , brand name stuff, anyone here run into something like that?
This site has a few brands listed:
The Kosher List (http://www.crcweb.org/Lists/List%20index.htm)

[brentsbaby612]

The last link I gave has a lot. Mostly drinks and ice cream.:)

[Sephania]

Thanks ladies!