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LookBeautiful
2nd February 2008, 10:08 PM
Forgive me if I ask in the wrong place. I am Eastern Orthodox, my icon should be showing now. How was the Baptist church formed?

DeaconDean
3rd February 2008, 01:51 AM
In my seminary class "History of Christianity," as I understand it, Baptists can trace their roots back to our Anabaptist brethren.

Anabaptists, or "Re-Baptizers" rejected the roman Catholic tradition of Baptism and did not accept it. Thus they became known as "re-baptizers."

Landmarkism, is a belief that Baptists can trace their roots all the way back to the first century and the church in Jerusalem. (cf. Acts 8)

but this is disputable. To be totally honest, Baptist can trace their roots to at least the Reformation.

John Smyth and his church at Amsterdam. His baptism. Church removes to London. Growth of General Baptists. Spurious claims of antiquity. Origin of Particular Baptists. Introduction of immersion in 1641. Survival of affusion till 1653. Controversy with Separatists. Confession of 1644.

http://www.reformedreader.org/history/vedder/contents.htm

I hope this helps.

God Bless

Till all are one.

LookBeautiful
3rd February 2008, 01:56 AM
In my seminary class "History of Christianity," as I understand it, Baptists can trace their roots back to our Anabaptist brethren.

Anabaptists, or "Re-Baptizers" rejected the roman Catholic tradition of Baptism and did not accept it. Thus they became known as "re-baptizers."

Landmarkism, is a belief that Baptists can trace their roots all the way back to the first century and the church in Jerusalem. (cf. Acts 8)

but this is disputable. To be totally honest, Baptist can trace their roots to at least the Reformation.



http://www.reformedreader.org/history/vedder/contents.htm

I hope this helps.

God Bless

Till all are one.
Ok. I don't get it. Re-baptizers? Can you explain that please. Thanks.

DeaconDean
3rd February 2008, 02:08 AM
Let me see if I can explain this:



Anabaptists, or rebaptizers, were members of a variety of 16th - century religious groups that rejected infant baptism. Since they believed that only after an adult had come to faith in Christ should he or she be baptized, they taught that converts who had been baptized in infancy must be rebaptized. Anabaptists held the church to be the congregation of true saints who should separate themselves from the sinful world. Their theology was highly eschatological, and they claimed direct inspiration by the Holy Spirit. The Anabaptists refused to take oaths, opposed capital punishment, and rejected military service. Their beliefs made them appear subversive and provoked persecution. Many of the Reformers disclaimed them, regarding them as fundamentally opposed to the ideas of the reformation.

Greek ana, again, and baptizo, baptize; rebaptizers

http://www.mb-soft.com/believe/txc/anabapti.htm

Anabaptists did not recognize the traditional view point of Roman Catholicism. And they rejected anybody who had been baptized as a Catholic, therefore, anybody who came to saving faith was "re-baptized," hence the name "re-baptizers" or "Anabaptists. (infant baptism, and baptisim as a requirement of salvation)

So they practiced re-baptizing.

God Bless

Till all are one.

LookBeautiful
3rd February 2008, 02:56 AM
You know this is fascinating. My ex-husband was re-baptized by a sect, not the Anabaptists. He was baptized as a Catholic as an infant... I have always been bothered by the fact that he was re-baptized. Now I know why. Its not my problem though, I don't need to worry about it. I would be willing to tell you the sect that re-baptized him in private messaging, but not out in public.

DeaconDean
3rd February 2008, 03:29 AM
If you feel more comfortable doing that, then please do.

God Bless

Till all are one.

MagnusEmboden
12th February 2008, 12:18 AM
Please forgive the Lutheran intrusion...

What I learned was that while the early Baptists may have been distantly influenced by Anabaptist emphases, they actually came out of the English non-conforming and puritan tradition, this is reflected in their strong commitment to congregational polity.

Most of the early Anabaptists did not practice immersion and about all they share with Baptists is the belief that baptism should follow a credible profession of faith.

Others say that the very early church was baptist in its understanding of who should be baptized and how, and this may even be true, strictly speaking since baptism was probably by immersion in most cases and there weren't a lot of christian families raising up children to one day confess Christ at least until the late apostolic period, but problems arise when inquiries are made into what many of these early believers believed baptism was for.

HappyChicken
28th February 2008, 12:12 PM
Thanks for the info! :-) I started going to a Baptist church in October and I need to learn all I can about it.

TimRout
2nd March 2008, 08:33 PM
Please forgive the Lutheran intrusion...

What I learned was that while the early Baptists may have been distantly influenced by Anabaptist emphases, they actually came out of the English non-conforming and puritan tradition, this is reflected in their strong commitment to congregational polity.

Most of the early Anabaptists did not practice immersion and about all they share with Baptists is the belief that baptism should follow a credible profession of faith.

Others say that the very early church was baptist in its understanding of who should be baptized and how, and this may even be true, strictly speaking since baptism was probably by immersion in most cases and there weren't a lot of christian families raising up children to one day confess Christ at least until the late apostolic period, but problems arise when inquiries are made into what many of these early believers believed baptism was for.
You're bang on! Baptists and Anabaptists are by no means interchangeable groups. In addition to your comments, I would add that most English (and later, American) Baptists are also quite Calvinistic in their theology. Anabaptists tend to have a somewhat under-developed theology, but loosely lean toward a Protestant Arminian orientation.

mesue
7th March 2008, 12:06 AM
http://www.armageddonbooks.com/danchart.jpg

Anyone familiar with the works of Clarence Larkin knows that the Independent Baptists came from the early churches noted at the head in the above picture. They may not have been called "Baptists" But Independent Bible Believing Christians have their roots in Antioch.Many of them call themselves Baptist today.