Faith vs. medicine

[Droobie]

If we have faith - the faith of a mustard seed, powerful enough to move mountains... do we need doctors and medicine?

[Konnie]

Doctors and medicine are a part of life.

[Snowy]

whoa!....never have thought about this much...put not sure :)

[Kathy]

Doctors and medicine are a part of life.

[beagleracing]

there is nothing, no affliction, that God cannot heal.

doctors and medicine are a part of man's life.

dp

[Judilyn]

I believe that God has given to us doctors (he gives men/women the wisdom to become them) and medicine.

I believe in faith healing and had it happen to me many times. But that does not mean that i have never been to the doctor. Late September of this year I was very sick and in the hospital for a solid week. Boy, was I sick. I praise God for the doctors who helped me get well!

[RED that's ME]

God uses both avenues!!

[sunshine]

I believe that God can work through medicine to heal. but it's always important to have faith and to pray for healing!

[djconklin]

A lady I knew recounted how she went to the hospital for surgery and perionitis (sp?) set in. Her doctor came in and told her that he was praying for her. Her thought was that she must be pretty bad off (she felt bad enough!) if he was praying for her. That nite a nurse came in to her room. Big smile and said "We have lots of work to do tonite!" With that she opened the windows (my first hint something weird was going on) and proceeded to do homeotherapy (hot and cold packs of water). Ab't 5 am it "broke" and while she took a shower the nurse cleaned up the bed. The second weird thing is that no nurse claimed the pay for the nite.

[Omid]

Doctors and medicine are part of life !

Howerver, sometimes we as humans' beings (those among us doctors) do make a lot mistakes/errors in judgment. Resulting from improving condition to worsening. (That actually happend to a friend of mine)

So I would say, that God's healing is perfect and has no set backs. He's work is spiritual, and "yes" not only has he the ability to heal your spirit. He brings Angels as we hear from that story "djconklin" mentioned down to earth, to provide also the physical healing for those who have faith in him. :pray: In all his power is unlimited :priest:

[mistertee49]

Doctors and medicine are a part of life.

[search1ng]

Luke was a doctor and he was one of Jesus' disciples...

[Hez]

I think God can heal through faith and through doctors....we need to have faith in God, but I think he gave us doctors. It just depends on the situation, sometimes doctors can't heal, so we have to have faith God will heal. We always need to have faith in God though :)

[SpiritPsalmist]

Either way we must depend on God. Doctors only know what they think they see or understand. God's the One Who really knows what's going on though.

[Sunset_Sam]

Doctors and medicine are a part of life.
This is very true. Even the apostles had to rely on medicial needs for ailments.

[godsmessenger]

God created doctors to heal, He intends us to use them. Jesus said not to test God, so if you can do it yourself without God you should.

[Acceptance]

Doctors can only heal what God permits them to. But even the bible agrees that healers are important.

1 Corinthians 12:28
"Some people God has designated in the church to be, first, apostles; second, prophets; third, teachers; then, mighty deeds; then gifts of healing, assistance, administration, and varieties of tounges."

[Dr Kimble]

Doctors (me :P ) heal physical wounds.

God heals spiritual wounds.
Need I say more?

[frosty1144]

I believe God gave man a brain to be used. If he did not use his brain he would be derelict in his resposibilities. Frosty

[SpiritPsalmist]

This is very true. Even the apostles had to rely on medicial needs for ailments.
What scripture is that in?

[SpiritPsalmist]

Luke was a doctor and he was one of Jesus' disciples...
Luke was a doctor but he was not one of the disciples

[SpiritPsalmist]

God created doctors to heal, He intends us to use them. Jesus said not to test God, so if you can do it yourself without God you should.
:scratch: that is certaintly NOT what scripture teaches.

[Dr Kimble]

Luke was a doctor but he was not one of the disciples


Aren't we all in a way Jesus disciples? Read Matthew 28:19-20 we are all disciples of Christ whatever we do.

[SpiritPsalmist]

Aren't we all in a way Jesus disciples? Read Matthew 28:19-20 we are all disciples of Christ whatever we do.
Of course Dr Kimble, however I was responding to the statement that Luke was one of the 12 disciples. It's also worthy to note that while Luke was a doctor we see him writing about the miracles of Jesus not how he, Luke performed doctoring duties.

My doctor is a Christian and while she doctors me in the human rehlm she is just as quick to lay hands on me and pray.

[Dr Kimble]

It's also worthy to note that while Luke was a doctor we see him writing about the miracles of Jesus not how he, Luke performed doctoring duties.



You are right, because that is not the purpose of the Bible, the purpose is to show God's great love for us and how and why he gave His son Jesus. If the Bible had details about doctors we would not get the message God planned for us to get. Which is to serve God in whatever you do. We need not all be preachers, but we MUST be ready to take up our cross and serve, follow, and teach about God. Doctors heal physical wounds, God heals our spirit. Jesus himself was in a way a doctor, he helped the sick. Isn't that what doctors do? But Jesus had one major difference, he healed and restored the spirit and faith of the sick. If Jesus wants the sick healed, then so it will be! God can use his power and love through anyone no matter what their job is.

[SpiritPsalmist]

Then we agree.

I'm reminded of my last visit with my Doctor. I was getting a regular check up and I complained to her about what appeared to be a mole on my back that itched. She looked at it and had some name for it but said it was nothing to be concerned about it was just something that comes with getting older.

Then I had her look at a small growth at the hairline of my right temple. I said, how about this thing? It itches a lot and when I comb my hair the comb is always catching on it. She replied that it was the same thing. I then told her that I had been laying my hand over it for several weeks and was cursing in the name Jesus and telling it that it had no right to be there and commanding it in the name of Jesus to dry up and die. She smiled and said, "Well, keep cursing it". I did, and when I just reached up to feel it. . .it's gone.

[Acceptance]

Doctors heal physical wounds, God heals our spirit.


I would have to respectfully and partially disagree. I think it is God that heals both; He sometimes uses doctors as a medium.

[Lizquests]

Doctors and medicine are apart of life, but I also feel that it is up to God if any of it works.

[Dr Kimble]

but I also feel that it is up to God if any of it works.

Great point Liz. :clap: God can use his power and love through anyone no matter what their job is.

[BigToe]

I feel that God gives us each different gifts and talents, and to some he gives medical knowhow and what not. So I believe Drs and medicine are a resource that GOD gives to us to help take care of our bodies. Our bodies are a temple unto Him and so God is going to give us means to take care and maintain our temples.

[Kira Faye]

Also medicine and doctors can lead itself to natrual remidies. I see doctors but on a personnal note find many useless and go to natural alternative, but I think like some one said these peopoe who have trained to help can be gods way of healing us so why refuse?

[JC_FREAK]

I put not sure because I have never really thought about it. But if you think about it. God gave the doctors, the talent and skill to be able to help us. So you are trusting in God if you go to the doctor

[Herurim]

:angel: God gives special skills to people for a reason :angel:

[Jippia]

I do trust in God, but God also gave people skills to cure others by medicines or therapy. I do not think one excludes the other, but that they are going hand in hand and that God sometimes uses medicines and doctors, and other times He provides the miracle all in once. In fact, miracles are not contrary to the laws in His creation, only proceeded faster. Especially when it comes to healing.
Dividing men in spirit and body is a greek way of thinking and stems from philosophers. Saying the spirit is more important than the body or that the mind is everything and the body is just material, that is gnostic rather than biblical. When you look at the Bible in the Old and the New Testament, you can see that God values the body in a greater way than we usually do. And where does it say that ANGELS are te ones who privide physical healing?

Just some thoughts.

Mirjam

[Seph]

In my opinion god gifted us with the moast powerful thing humanity could ever hope to posses , the mind , sice it is the governing foce behind our bodys being like a smaller god in itself then there is nolimit to what it can do when it has the thought and the belife behind it.

doctors are there to ease the pain.

[ShetlandRose]

:) Oh wouldn't it be wonderful if we lived in a perfect world full of instant miracles! But we live as a fallen race in a fallen world. I rarely do go to doctors, but some years ago I had a horrible horse accident that came close to ending my life. It was the will of God that I live and He used doctors and surgeries and medicine to help repair the damage. The healing I give credit and praise to God. I was months in the hospital and 2 years as a comeback--not instantaneousness you see. The recovery was arduous, but what valuable lessons I learned about life's priorities and trusting God alone with day-by-day challenges.

ShetlandRose :angel:

[GraceReborn]

:angel: God gives special skills to people for a reason :angel:

My thoughts exactly.

[gusto5]

i really dunno...but id go to God first...cause he's perfect, compared to the Cough medicine im taking, as well as everything else :clap: PTL

[d0c markus]

Luke was a doctor.

[FBI78]

I believe you put your Trust in God He will heal you. But God gaves us doctors so He can perform thru them to heal us. I believe that. I do go to the doctors myself.

[Scarmiglione]

Once in a while you'll hear about a family who won't take their sick kid to the hospital, because they believe God will heal them. I think these people should be charged with homicide if the kid dies. Even if the kid lives, reckless endangerment.

[Billysplace]

If faith healing works, why doesn't he heal serious gun shot wounds without any help from doctors?

[southron]

I believe in healing by God for sure but at the same time I think that God heals through medicine. I will take both medicine and Gods help above all. So I voted not sure.

God Bless,
Southron

[Henaynei]

I could not chose any of the given responses - I believe and trust G-d, and I believe G-d has given wisdom and knowledge to man, i.e. doctors and medicine. He has also given us wisdom and the responsibility to learn what we can about our magnificant bodies, how they work and how to keep them healthy.

As in all other areas of our lives we all too often reap what we sow.....

[Kathryn]

Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. James 5:14

Anointing was a rubbing of oil for both religious and medical reasons. The Bible says to do both.

My pastor always says, "If you're out of gas, don't pray, go to the gas station."


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Who am I to judge those outside the church? Paul

[his excellence]

For minor illness I have learned how to take care of it using alternative medicines, but more serious things I do see a doctor. Seeing God gives knowledge think about the level of knowledge that medical doctors and researchers need to do their jobs, I do not think it was simply by chance that someone one day figured all of this out on his or her own. Over the years God has imparted knowledge to these people so that His children can be taken care of on earth, If you think hard enough about this the miracle of modern medicine is just that a Miracle one that God has slowly revealed and allowed to be implemented. Granted man takes things a little too far at times but the initial knowledge had to have been God Given.

[donutman_jr]

doctors and medicane are a part of life but faith heals allso i would say you need abit of both

[his excellence]

I agree! It is also through faith and prayer that answers come to illness that drs arent sure how to handle.

[MYMOM]

GOD INVENTED MEDICINE & DOCTORS

[his excellence]

Amen to that. Once and a while I get opinionated medical doctors who tell me that alternative medicine is false hopes or baseless. I said well if that is so , then how come even modern medicines are in many cases herbal based? herbs grown from the ground, they are created by God. In the bible they didnt have prozac or other drugs manufactured to heal or relieve symptoms, they used herbs and what was of the earth to bring about healing or comfort. So then why is alternative medicine a false hope?.

[Pastor_Benjamin]

I don't take medicine unless It almost a life or death cituation. I trust in doctors, but I have all my faith in God. One of the things that we must consider when looking at this is that God created all the medicines. God also blessed the doctors with the abilities that they have to heal people.

[Jesusfrk4life77]

Yall....Jesus is the healer! Who do u think made medicine in the 1st place~! He also created doctors and I dont think doctors could heal w/o God! In my opinion, doctors and medicine dont help any....i think God makes them SEEM like they work! Itz kinda hard to splain 4 me so yeah...thatz what i say! One Love, One God, One Way!
Souled Out 4 Jesus,
Alexis M

[Kathryn]

I'm afraid for people who don't use medicine because of their legalism. My pastor says, "If you're out of gas, don't pray, fill the tank up!" Duh!

[Mongoose]

How about both faith and medicine?

Actually, being agnostic, I've got to go with medicine, since that is more likely to work.

[Glorianna]

God can sometimes use doctors and medicine to heal people.

[jeffs_girl_2004]

Doctors and medicine are a part of life.

[Billnew]

God provides us with medicine and Dr to help us.
To refuse Dr is to say no one else but god can help me.
That only direct action from god can be godly.
Dr are a gift from god. They are gods miracle workers.

[Bladecarver]

Both, God has given us the knowledge to do things on our own. You might as well as, "God, or hunt for our own food."

[beatarmy2]

Good question. I can argue on both sides of that. More God then medicine, though!

[kerux]

The way I see it is that we are all created in God's image, therefore, doctor's are used as a tool of God to heal our sickness and disease.

[daveleau]

Bad question!
You ask if we put our faith in God or in doctors. You have to put faith in God to work through doctors. If it is God's Will to heal you, and you have faith, you will be healed. But, as Andrew did in Bethsaida with Jesus in ront of 5000 hungry people, you must do what you can (with God's guidance) and then leave the rest up to Him. While "God helps those that help themselves" is NOT in the Bible, it is reflected in this story. "Name it claim it" people need not argue that we should be like Christian Scientists and not go to doctors.

My answer:
D: I put faith in God to work through doctors to heal us

[rubberduckie]

Hey, plus there are Christian doctors, and Christ was like a doctor, he healed the lame and the sick. Through missionary doctors, many are healed both physically and spiitually. They come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.

[tqpix]

I believe that God has given to us doctors (he gives men/women the wisdom to become them) and medicine.That's because most man's faith is not big enough to move mountains. (A mustard seed might be small, but it still has some size.)

[Libby1]

I believe God uses both venues.

IF we had faith the size of a mustard seed then we could say to this mountain be thou removed and it would be cast into the sea. Alas this is not the case.


Libby1

[Takesha]

God is divine healer...Jesus paid the price for our healing...By His stripes we are healed...but until we see the manifestation of that healing....I go to the doctor.

Medicine is a science nothing more...Science is merely trial and error...so there for Dr.s can be wrong...and even when they are right, God has the final word.

Dr.s told me I would be in a wheel chair by the time I was in my thirties...but God healed me in my twenties...the doctors were probably right...but God was "righter".

God allows for us an humans to acqiure knowledge...Dr.s do that so I allow them to guide me and treat me...but God is my Divine Physician.

Takesha

[violetstar]

God created doctors, and they do not used magic, just science. We should be safe to used them. If we are not suppose to use doctor for our health, God would have warn us like he warns us about everything else that is bad for us.

[weezyjenn]

God would not have provided medicine if he didn't want us to use it...but we should always go to him first!!

[Grace_of_God]

I personally believe that the healing that comes through modern medicine IS a gift from God--if you are not going to be healed then NOTHING is going to work-- it's ALWAYS God's doing, IMHO.

God bless,
~Grace~

[rua2j33]

I am a firm believer that God has given doctor's the ability to help others. I have faith in God, but I also pray for the doctor's to make the right decision.

[TheMainException]

YOU NEED BOTH. I really think that god is there for you, and will heal everything, but god also has people on earth to administer therapy and give prescriptions so that we might live a bit longer on earth.

[bliz]

All healing is of God. The fact that God made my skin so the the scratch on my hand will scab over and heal is of God. That God has enabled humans to learn about the body and medicine is of God. The fact that sometimes will be healed without medicine of any treatments, is of God.

[ps139]

If "both" were an option I'd pick it. I do not see why the two must be mutually exclusive in this poll. However I do believe that the healing power of God is much stronger than medicine. I know a girl who had stomach cancer and had it healed at a healing Mass. At the Mass the priest said a prayer over her, and she says that she felt like a hand reached into her stomach. She went to the doctor next week and the tumor was 80% gone. Two weeks later she went back, it was 100% gone, and there were no traces of it ever having been there.

[Inquisitior]

God wants us to be faithful, but not stupid.

[DanielJamesSimon]

I voted the middle option. Doctors and medicine are definitely a part of life. Faith in God is vital and far more important than doctors and medicine, but sometimes God won't just heal us without the aid of a doctor or medicine. God might sometimes be thinking to Himself, "Hey, I want to heal you, but I want to do it through a doctor, so go to a doctor!!" I believe that God can work miracles, but I believe he does so more through a doctor or medicine than just purely "faith that I'll get better".

[Moros]

Both are essencial.

[Big Mouth Nana]

I have been blessed with health thank God. The times that I have gone to the doctor, I prayed first, and then went in faith.

[rhemarob]

Well no one preaches and teaches faith in God for healing more than me but to take a hard line and tell a person to give up doctors and medicine is foolish.

Just because someone uses medicine doesn't mean their faith doesn't work and doesn't make them any less of a Christian.

The best scenario is to trust in God and get healed but for crying out loud don't do something stupid and do without a medicine you need.

[Dr Majestic]

a bit of both is always good.

[cat has felt the light!]

I believe God gave us docs and medecine, so I trust him to heal me thru them!
C@ xx

[Dark_Adonis]

If we have faith - the faith of a mustard seed, powerful enough to move mountains... do we need doctors and medicine? We must have faith in God, but that doesn't mean that we can't seek treatment from doctors and medicine. I prefer to have faith that God is working through them to heal me.

[Faithful nonbeliever]

Are there actually forum members that would refuse medical treatment for a loved one? I put my trust in the men and women who dedicate their lives to learning medicine and to saving peoples lives. Doctors and medicine save lives no doubt about that. If they aren't needed then what happens when a woman starts childbirth, or when a toddler chokes on something? I sure hope someone dials 911. Praying for someone is thoughtful & meant to help, but in an emergency it is vital to get an expert quick.

[SaintGeorge]

Doctors are a part of life.

[Ashlynne]

I think Doctors are needed in some areas.

[PaladinGirl]

I put my faith in doctors and medicine! :D

[call-me-dan]

Prayer literally mean talking to God. If one just talks and does nothing he cannot be expected to get anything done. God respects those who work, not those who whine the loudest.

besides, Luke was a doctor. Duh there.

[prettyrose436]

doctors and medicine can be helpful and can be an anwser to pray!

[Sascha Fitzpatrick]

I'm a nurse, and I believe God instilled wisdom in certain people to provide us with knowledge about health, and a skill to treat us when illness does come into our lives.

A lot of us get sick because of our own behaviours, so it's good to know that God has blessed someone with the skills to help us improve.

I'm sure glad there are people out there with skills to treat me if things got bad!

Sasch

[Niamh]

Doctors can only heal what God permits them to. ditto

[ONE,WHO,REMAINS]

I know anything can be healed through GOD. And it also says in the scriptures that laughter is as good as any medicine. So I choose GOD over Doctors.

[zoe_uu]

Doctors and medicine are a part of life

[tweek821]

Our bodies are not perfect and they are so fragile. We, as humans, can be killed by the simplest of accidents from falling on your neck or choking on a cherry. You can see that we are delicate creations of God.
I think God wants us to lead happy, fulfilling lives in Him. What use would it be for us to not have doctors and medicines and then die off the first time we get the flu or tetanis? I don't think I'm being very articulate so if you're confused, I'll try to explain it better but right now, as you can see, it's 1:47 am and I'm not thinking right :)

[Cin]

I always pray before going to the doctor that God would give them wisdom and give me favor. I know that God works through doctors to heal. I was blessed with a wonderful christian OB/GYN that I know was guided by God to heal me from a life threatening situation (hematoma) the night I had my daughter and then again when I developed complications postpartum (preeclampsia). He went above and beyond in securing me my own room so that I could nurse my newborn while I was in the hospital. I prayed for favor and God answered me. I also was attended by christian nurses who prayed over me my entire hospital stay. God is so wonderful.:bow:

[PaladinGirl]

I believe that God put doctors on this earth for a reason. Sometimes God will heal us divinely but sometimes God wants us to go to the doctor and get medicine to help us with any illnesses or injuries we may have. I believe doctors are an instrument of God to help us heal. Remember, Luke was a physician.

[DeltaJ]

St.Luke was a doctor what does that tell ya

[Faithful nonbeliever]

I find that to belittle doctors. They became what they are because of hard work, and dedication. No one made them what they are. Was John Wayne Gacy a great serial murderer because god gave him the gift? That just sound stupid. Obviously all doctors aren't christian. Why would god heal sometimes but not all the time? You know people have to die sometime, does he have a method to the madness of illness & death? Illness is necessary when people are dying. Doctors and medicine can make a difference sometimes, wishing can't. If it did, no one would ever die. Just give doctors some credit, they deserve it, not god. If not then you should praise the panhandling bums/garbage men/drugdealers/mcdonalds workers, and the like for doing god's work.

[TSIBHOD]

I believe that just trusting in God is an admirable road to take, but if you don't have the faith for it, be prepared to die for your convictions. Also, faith comes by hearing the word of God, and if God doesn't speak to you to "come out on the waves," as He spoke to Peter, then you should stay in the boat.

I am a leukemia survivor, and I had chemo and a bone marrow transplant, so I am speaking from some experience with this situation. I have seen others who had cancer who took the "healing" route, and died. This is not to say that someone can't be healed (I know that they can, and witnessed God's intervention even in my own treatment), but if you take the "healing only" route, without God telling you to do so, or if you don't have the faith for it, then you may pay for your decision.

With regard to the story of Peter again: "Walk on water, or learn how to swim." (http://www.kingdomlife.com/kingdom/BRITTONwalkonwater.htm) It's great if you can walk on water, but if you aren't called to do that yet, or if you are sinking, sometimes it can be better to swim a little bit than to drown.

[psychedelicist]

Being a shaman, I have seen firsthand the power of spiritual healing, but I have also heard the story of a boy who was injured BADLY by a car. The parents were convinced that God would heal him, so they did not take him to the hospital and only prayed for him. For 7 hours he was in agony before he finally died. So I'm not sure.

[Mimi]

God gave me the change to be helped by doc's and meds....If I don't do it, I will die. I am not afraid to die, but I sure know that Christ and God don't want me to leave this life yet...;)

I guess that you think differently about this fact (most people anyway) if your life depends on medical science......:hug:

[Mimi]

Being a shaman, I have seen firsthand the power of spiritual healing, but I have also heard the story of a boy who was injured BADLY by a car. The parents were convinced that God would heal him, so they did not take him to the hospital and only prayed for him. For 7 hours he was in agony before he finally died. So I'm not sure.
Poor boy:prayer:

I once heard this story:

A man was drowning and someone reached out his hand to help him. "No" he said "God will save me". Then someone else wanted to give him a floating device and again the man said "No God will save me". So a helicopter came along and threw a line to him. Again he said "No, God will save me". The man drowned. As he stood before God he asked him why he didn't save him. God said: "I offered my hand three times to you and you refused to take them"

;)

[shaitiger]

Medicine is God given. In my opinion, we should be taking full advantage of these gifts.

[Key Peninsula Redneck]

I don't know, seeings as how medicine won't work unless God allows it to work, and the same goes for faith.

[Faithful-Frank]

Medicine and Faith have been an object of prayer for me recently. Galatians 5:20 says that witchcraft is evil. The actual greek word used there is pharmakeia which literally means medication. I am still praying about it though.

[LiberatedChick]

I can't vote in this one because there's no option for both. In the Bible people became unclean if they touched a dead person...God could not make them clean again. They had to do that themselves. I think this is similar...we get ill through whatever means and we have to take steps to help ourselves. Faith in God is also necessary though, as medicine doesn't always work as well as it should...we need faith in God to help us through both with healing and with staying mentally strong.

[kwimmer]

Doctors and medicine are a part of life

[faith by day]

not sure... isnt it both? b/c god created medicine to heal the body, and the doctors to help inbetween??????

[The "J"]

Nothing wrong with going to a doctor.

[The "J"]

But it sure helps if you also go to the Great Physician.

[Mimi]

But it sure helps if you also go to the Great Physician.
Yep.:thumbsup:

[christianfilmcrew]

I trust in God and in Him using medicine to heal. Prefer the miracles first tho...

[Kristi1]

If we have faith - the faith of a mustard seed, powerful enough to move mountains... do we need doctors and medicine?


Great Thread Droobie!!!! ;)



I voted ~> Doctors and medicine are a part of life!!!


* God gave most doctors speical skills! Without a doctor skills I would not be alive today writing this. Yes, we all need doctors!!!


*hugs* \o/ :hug:

KristiAnn

[sweetlambofgod]

Both!

[Richard]

God..... because God decides how the doctors and all that other stuff works

[Nevada77]

We should have faith that God will have his hands on the medicine and doctors so that they can do their jobs the best they can.

Nevada :angel:

[Touring3D]

I believe God uses doctors to heal people.

[Kristi1]

I believe God uses doctors to heal people.



AMEN!!!! Touring3D YaY!, Without doctors a lot of would not be here typing today! God gave doctors skills and knowledge to help people. ;)


Blessings, \o/

KristiAnn

Severely Disabled awaiting SSDI for more than a year!

[kyzar]

You really need to give more options in these polls! I agree with anumber of people here that say both... Faith is essential, but God uses doctors/medicine to do His will... I'm not saying God can't heal, He can, and does... But God gave us medicine to use...

[Kristi1]

You really need to give more options in these polls! I agree with anumber of people here that say both... Faith is essential, but God uses doctors/medicine to do His will... I'm not saying God can't heal, He can, and does... But God gave us medicine to use...


I agree, there should have been and Other option!! Praise God for Doctors!


Blessings, \o/ :clap:

KristiAnn

[Busybee]

I voted that faith and doctors are a part of life. In my opinion, it still takes faith in the Lord to make the medicine or medical care work because even though medicine is provided, ultimately HE is in control of the outcome :amen:

[Kristi1]

I voted that faith and doctors are a part of life. In my opinion, it still takes faith in the Lord to make the medicine or medical care work because even though medicine is provided, ultimately HE is in control of the outcome :amen:


Sometimes Busybee..


God my Daddy worked overtime on me in the hospital back when the doctors removed my center breast bone from my back bone.


Kristi was born with a rare disorder in which her breast bone was fused to her backbone. She has several surgeries on her chest. As you can imagine her organs are displaced and she has difficulty breathing. She is often in pain and has difficulty walking without a cane. Kristi still takes time to work on her Christian web forum and she's an inspiration to all who visit Kristi Ann's Haven . Some days she is in such pain that we do not hear from her.



*YAWNS* :yawn: g'nite

KristiAnn

[okiemommy26]

doctors and medicine are a part of life

[pcwilkins]

We ought to use the means God provides.

Peter

[ajuran]

god created us in his image. so he gave us a part of his wisdom, he is the one who enables the doctors to heal and the medicines to create new medicine heal the sick. i think both things go together. yes we have to pray for the sick, but we can also use the chances medicine gives us.

[brinny]

God created all the herbs and plants. In them is the cure most likely for every disease imaginable. He created some with talents to be a doctor, some to be scientists, etc. All things work together for good to those that love Him. This includes doctors and medicine that can heal us.

Faith and medicine are important in God's plan. Praise Him for both :)

:amen:

[Hisbygrace]

In ,1 Corinthians 12:12-31, Paul decribes how each of us are given different gifts and how these gifts are to be used for the good of the whole body.
Yes, doctors and medicine have most definitely become a part of life. But who gave these men and women the desire and the ability to learn medicine? Who gives those that work in the development of new medications and cures for disease the knowledge they need to know what to search for? I would say that it is our God. We are told by Jesus that if we have the faith of a mustard seed we can say to this mountian move, and it will have to move. If we trust God, He will provide our every need, but He doesn't want us to just sit on the side lines. He wants us to be active participants in His work. Therefore, God may have made you to be a doctor, nurse, teacher, minister, cook, fireman, seamtress, judge, attorney, cab driver or ditch digger, etc. Whatever He created you to be though, it is much easier to be if you have faith in Him and Him alone.
One experience that helped me learn this lesson was this; my husband had been sick for a long time with lung disease.One afternoon he went into respiratory arrest and he was put on a respirator in Intensive Care. I went in through-out the night to sit by his side, but they had him pretty well knocked out so he wouldn't fight all the lines and hoses. About nine o'clock the following morning the doctors took him off the respirator. He didn't talk for a long while,then suddenly he started crying like his heart had been torn in half and he kept asking me over and over, " Janice, why did they bring me back? I didn't want to come back." Well, it scared me so bad, because Buck had always been so strong that I ran to the nurses and they sedated him again. We didn't talk about how he had felt for several days, but then he ask me the same question again. The answer that came to my heart and which I gave him was this: That God had something left for him to do and when that was completed He would take him home. I asked him to think about his situation, reminding him that not many people come off of a respirator overnight, but it had been God's will that he come off. I told Buck, honey there's one thing I know and that is God has set each of us a predetermined amount of time and when he is ready to call us home it doesn't matter what anyone does, we're going home. Six months later, God called Buck home.

[brinny]

god created us in his image. so he gave us a part of his wisdom, he is the one who enables the doctors to heal and the medicines to create new medicine heal the sick. i think both things go together. yes we have to pray for the sick, but we can also use the chances medicine gives us.

:amen:

[Neal]

Why couldn't God work through doctors and medicine? I think He does, so both are valid.

[Philled-one]

Going to a Doctor does not indicate a lack of faith. Both work together but ultimately all healing comes from God.

[meebs]

i didnt vote! there was no option for both. im sure it is already in this thread:

God made doctors, God gave us medicine or/and the ability to make it. But sometimes we need a little faith to get through our illnesses.

I say both. ^_^

[Faithful nonbeliever]

Why even go to the doctor or take medicine? Maybe god is trying to take you home. Those people that become doctors had a strong desire & alot of dedication, it wasn't god who made them doctors. And to say that he did means god intended some to be garbage men & panhandlers.

[indeep]

I believe that God has the power to heal, and does so in his own blessed time. I also think that he has placed the tools on earth that we can be made whole by doctors and other experts.

[Gwynne]

Doctors are a part of life. God uses many different ways to heal, including doctors.

[Waterhouse]

Do everything you can, see doctors, take medicine, look after yourself 95% of the time... and leave that miraculous 5% that only God can do to God.

[BubblesRelena]

Okay, again, there wasn't a section for my answer. I put doctures, because if I just put God, then I would be lieing to the fact that I use medicine and such. I do trust in God...but God does give us doctures and medicine to heal us.

[staceyvonne]

Most times we run to the doctors and the medicine cabinets before we even think about going to God.
I do believe God uses Doctors and I'm against going to them...just give God a chance to work first.

[LadyCoyote_Fin]

I believe God gave man a brain to be used. If he did not use his brain he would be derelict in his resposibilities. Frosty

I agree! :thumbsup:

LC :angel:

[WalksWithChrist]

Don't forget that God provides healthy foods and water that if we *actually use* will help keep us healthy. Some years ago in college, I took the advise of a professor and drank lots of water everyday and cut out almost all soda and coffee. I noticed almost immediately that I felt better in general. I never realized there was any other way to feel! I now get sick a *lot* less. Actually, I have been praying a lot more in general and eating better in combination with drinking water pretty much all the time and I really don't remember the last time I got sick. It was sometime ago (almost two years now I think) and I had traveled to a relative's house. I guess my system was weak. There have been a few moments here and there where I feel like I might be getting sick, but it never lasts more than a few hours. All my coworkers have been sick multiple times with flu and you name it, but I've been blessed!
I believe doctors definitely have their uses in our world, but we have a responsibility to take care of the body God gave us! Now if I could only get out there and exercise more...
= )

[ralrachaan]

I did not answer, because the answer I wanted wasn't a choice. But heres my opinion: Most diseases are caused partially by lack of a good immune system. Not having a good diet causes your immune system to go down the drain. Just by eating right you can prevent a lot of disease. Also, one can trust God and still get treatment from doctors. Note that a lot of the people Jesus healed in the bible had gone to their wits end to every doctor or treatment they could find, then came to God and he healed them. You must believe that God will heal you, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to cure yourself.

[eaglex]

If we didn't have doctors we wouldn't have THE GOSPEL OF LUKE.

[Raheelah]

doctors and medicine are part of life, Luke was the great physician. common sense needs to be used when you are ill, yes trust Jesus to heal you, but also call a doctor when you have to and be cautious when a "miracle healer evangelist" says "you are healed throw all of your medicines away at once!", seek the doctors advice FIRST as well as God over the matter :) ;) :D :cool: :P :wave: :thumbsup: :amen: :clap: :hug: :preach: :prayer: :groupray: :bow: :angel:

[Greg the byzantine]

I think that we must realize that there are practical reasons, why we should all go to the doctor. I also think medicine and faith can be combined. I think a person can go through with conventional medicine and pray for help so that the medicine will work. Also, prayer can help a person who is sick find strength, given to them by God so that they may recover. I think that both can be used together as strong tools against illness.

[brinny]

God uses people as vessels of blessing and healing. Praise God for doctors, amen?

[Zoomer]

I voted Drs. and medicine are a part of life.

God heals in many ways, one is through Drs. and medicine.

[die2live]

I put doctors are part of life, but I changed my mind right after I clicked okay. Yes, they are part of life, but they are not to be trusted, so to speak. Instead, God alone should be trusted. We can trust Him to work through doctors and medicine but never place trust in anyone or anything other than God.

[RThibeault]

I beleive God does perform miracles. I also beleive that God provides the knowledge and wisdom as well as spiritual gifts of healing to those He calls to be doctors.

[ysl_75]

If we have faith - the faith of a mustard seed, powerful enough to move mountains... do we need doctors and medicine?
I believed God can heal us if we had the faith but we are still in this world so we need Doctors too ...

[Blessed-one]

God didn't give us a brain for nothing. He uses doctors and medicine to heal as well.

[bill16652]

i believe that god uses doctors and they are here for us but only until we can build our faith level to be able to be healed

[Lordismyobsession16]

I voted only trust in God, but I docters are a part of life.

[shari54]

Doctors and medicine are a part of life but trust in God to give you direction

[GodFlute2]

I take alergy medication, but it isn't required. God is capable of healing. He does heal.

[Mister_mag00]

I believe that with faith God can help us through science(doctors,ect.)
Science and religion can work together for mans benefit for many of the worlds problems.

[Saruman]

I also believe God works through medicine. I put not sure, but wish there was a "both" option.

[Godjunkie]

I would say both as well if I had the option because I have heard of people being healed without medicine (one guy I heard about got smoked by a bus, went to a hospital, and when he was prayed over there, his bones started cracking as they slid into place... pretty wild, huh?), but I also believe that most people are healed by God through medicine, and that is why our hospitals have such great business.

[Underoath]

This reminds me of this movie I saw a while back. It was about this very "religious" married couple, who had like 3 kids I think. They had a boy who had diabities, I think it was, and they took him to church and this man said that the Lord healed him. And the boy and his whole family believed it. So then they threw away all his medicine and said they needed to fully put their faith in God that he really did heal him. The boy started to get sick, but they all the while just said it was a test from God and to just have faith. Well, the boy died, and the parents were still in so much denial over it that they thought he was like Lazarus and God was going to raise him from the dead! They refused to have him buried, but the parents were put in jail, and tried. They thought for the longest time he'd come back to life, but he never did, and they finally accepted it. :(

It was a really sad movie. :cry:

[rockerchick4j]

That really is a sad movie.:(

I truely think all things are possible if we just believe and if they don't happen the way we see them then its God's will and His will should be done. So Faith.:clap:

[underOATH!]

Kinda both. God put doctors here for a reason. He gave them the ability to help people.

[Lithium Hobo]

A person with medicine and no faith is a live person. A person with faith and no medicine is a dead person.

[Melly Monster]

I didn't vote, because God gave man the knowledge to envet medication and be doctors, he also gave us brains to know when we need to get help. But I do believe that we should rely on God to know if its a medical issue or to sit back and let him take care of it.

[runner_for_jc]

I go Both Ways, i believe that God heals a lot of people but doctors can too!
Jordan Gibson*24

[Sascha Fitzpatrick]

I think God has given us the skills to develop the technology used in medicine - so I'd gladly go to my doctor anyday!

It is wisdom to use IVF (or AI) if you have a genetic disorder which will kill your child, or can not conceive naturally.

It is wisdom to utilise radiation therapy (and surgery) for cancer

It is wisdom to seek an ultrasound to check on the health of your unborn child

It is wisdom to use contraception for medical problems, or were to have severe problems if you were to have a child (ie could die, have a child who died, were financially struggling)

It is wisdom to have a melanoma surgically removed, elsewise it could grow and kill you

It is wisdom to take antibiotics for an infection

It is wisdom to have a cesarean during labour if there are complications

So yes, faith does come into it, but it does sound unwise to me to ignore the things that God has given us to use in this world....

Sasch

[*Lana*]

I trust in God that the Doctor will heal me, if I am sick. :)

[SarahBeara]

Putting your faith in God doesn't have to mean not using doctors. And like Lana said, I'd have faith in God that the doctors would be able to help me.

[U R my Sonshine]

Absolutely God can work thru medicine. Do we dare we tell God how he can heal us? It doesn't have to be "magic and supernatural" he could use any means he choses to do the healing. ;)

That diabetes story is sad. God was probably looking down going...."Hey!! take the medicine I provided for you!!!! Hey!!!!, Yoooohoooo!!!!!"

[someone_else]

I trust in God that the Doctor will heal me, if I am sick. :)

yep yep yep

and when the doctors can then thats ok God will look after me as he always does

[Sascha Fitzpatrick]

:hug: to someone_else.... :hug:

Sasch

[Cherub8]

I had an aunt who was a member of the Christian Science chuch. She didn't believe in medicine. When she got cancer, she did not receive any treatment whatsoever. It didn't take long before the cancer took over her entire body and she died.

I voted, "Doctors and medicine are a part of life." However, I think at some point a line must be drawn. Just because we can do it doesn't mean it's right. For example, just because we can destroy embryos to harvest their stem cells for medical research doesn't mean we should. We should not. I also think there has to be medicine combined with prayer.

[twyrch]

If we have faith - the faith of a mustard seed, powerful enough to move mountains... do we need doctors and medicine?

While it is true that without faith, it is impossible to please God and that if we have the faith of a mustard seed, we can move mountains... I do not believe God would want us to decline the services available to us for healing.

In some cases, man's medical knowledge can't heal... that is where faith in healing comes into play and allows God to bless our lives.

When I think of this, I think of the joke of a man who climbed to his roof during a flood. A row boat came by to save him and he refused, saying God would save him. A speed boat came by to save him and he refused, saying God would save him. A helicoptor came by to save him and he refused, saying God would save him. When the flood finally crested his roof and he drown, he went to heaven and asked God why He didn't save him. God replied, "What do you mean? I sent you 2 boats and a helicopter. What more do you want?"

[Mal2]

this is amusing,

faith = medicine

you need to have faith that the doctor will give you something to make you better

conversely you need to have faith for god to fix you up

[Bledsoe2]

If you pray and have trust in god he can heal anything. I would definately trust in Jesus instead of doctors.

Bledsoe2


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[Sascha Fitzpatrick]

Bledsoe,

I'd like a clearer understanding, if that's okay.

What if you had a melanoma, that was going to spread through your body, killing you? Would you have the surgery to remove it (when it is small, and less deadly), or just pray that God would get rid off it?

What if you were diagnosed with cancer? Would you take radiation therapy?

What if you couldn't conceive a child without the child having a genetic disorder that would kill it? Would you take contraception and pursue IVF? Or would you just 'take the chance' and pray?

What if you had an infection in your tooth? Would you go get it seen by someone, or would you pray for it to go away?

What if your family had a history of colon cancer? Would you go get a colonoscopy to keep yourself aware of any changes? Or would you just pray that you wouldn't get it as well (it's one of those diseases that is genetic)?

This is serious stuff. A lot of what I mentioned above can kill you, and is best treated if early detection is noted.

If you can say yes to just praying for all that stuff above, then that's fine (and as a medical person I will TRY to not get cranky! ;)), but I find a lot of people say, 'oh I'll just pray to God and He'll take care of me', without thinking of practical situations where medicine is important.

Anyway, whose to say God doesn't use medicine and technology? Who says you WOULDN'T be using faith if you went to medicine? Didn't God create the people who designed the technology? Didn't God create the products used?

Sasch

[MQTA]

Oh stop it now! You're making too much sense! Can't allow that!

[U R my Sonshine]

YEP yep and YEP!! :0

[Sascha Fitzpatrick]

LOL

But it's TRUE!!!

:P

[seekingpurity047]

Hey, I would like to just point out that there is a missing category: Healing from God through Doctors?

[MaddiesDad]

I have always thought-God gives the doctors and meds the abilities. Faith filled doctors work with God to heal

[Miss Spaulding]

Doctors and medicine is part of life. However, going to the doctor and taking medication for small, simple things is quite ridiculous. No, it won't really do any harm I suppose. But you should have enough faith in the Lord to know better. I'm personally one who avoids medication as much as I can. I'm into alternative medicine. But that's besides the point...lol...anyhow. Doctors and medicine is fine, just try to limit yourself on all the medication/medicine you take, because it's very possible you'll start depending on it to take care of everything. I have people like this in my family and their lives are screwy.....I suppose that wasn't very kind to say, but it doesn't make it any less truthful.

[ema0941]

God certainly uses Doctors to heal us

He heals us how (and if) he wants to and we should always trust him to do his will, his way.

[baller_4_jc]

Trust in god all tha way!!!!!!!!!

baller_4_jc

[rahul_sharma]

doctors and medicines are part of life with God's wish. they will proove much more affective if we have faith in God also.

[underOATH!]

You really need to trust God. But the Bible says to use wisdom so you need medicine too.

[MQTA]

doctors and medicines are part of life with God's wish. they will proove much more affective if we have faith in God also. That's called the Placebo effect?

[kathogirl]

Once was a man in a flood...he was sitting on his roof...a small boat came by and the person asked..."let me help you...get in the boat"...the man said..."No God will save me"...another boat came by an hour later...water still rising...and that man said .."let me help you," and the man replied..."No God will save me"...an hour later with the water almost over the roof...a helicopter came by and the pilot said..."let me save you,"...again the man replied..."no God will save me,"...the man died...when he saw God...he said..."I thought you would save me,"...God replied..."I sent three people to help you...but you refused to let them."

God often does his work through other people, institutions, organizations...sometimes even animals. One should pray not only for healing and help...but for the wisdom to know when help has already arrived.

[MQTA]

Once was a man in a flood...he was sitting on his roof...a small boat came by and the person asked..."let me help you...get in the boat"...the man said..."No God will save me"...another boat came by an hour later...water still rising...and that man said .."let me help you," and the man replied..."No God will save me"...an hour later with the water almost over the roof...a helicopter came by and the pilot said..."let me save you,"...again the man replied..."no God will save me,"...the man died...when he saw God...he said..."I thought you would save me,"...God replied..."I sent three people to help you...but you refused to let them."

God often does his work through other people, institutions, organizations...sometimes even animals. One should pray not only for healing and help...but for the wisdom to know when help has already arrived.

Very profound story, I was looking for that one, thanks for posting it :)

Welcome to CF

[GEO4CHRIST]

Do not put your faith in the doctors, put it in God the one who put the doctors in the world.

[reformedfan]

God invented docs & high tech meds, thank you God!

[mycatspice]

God is so awesome that he can work not only through miracles from prayer (exclusively), but He is also powerful enough to work through doctors and professionals. If we as Christians limit God to healing only through laying hands on a person, then that would demonstate that we had little faith in what God can do. Don't limit God. :)

[kissybug27]

:wave: Howdy Howdy!!

We as humans make nothing unless we make something from something else therefore nothing is created that wasn't created by God first.

God gave us many plants and elements and also the knowledge of what to do with them. If not for God would our doctors have a clue? I don't think so. I do believe in divine healing. That God can touch a person and cancer be gone forever. I was heal of "a" kidney stone a few years ago.

But I also believe God helps those who help themselves. I believe that God gives us medicines and through the medicine He heals us. He gives us the doctors and the money for the medicine so why do we not think of it as coming from him? One to ponder on!!!

A few years ago, a family in Chattanooga Tn had a daughter, I can't remember what age she was but she was young, who died of cancer. The treatment was put before them and they refused it saying that God would heal her without the treatments not even thinking that the treatment was from God. Was it faith or stupidity?

I remember a joke about a man on a roof during a flood who believed that God would save him. Time after time people came by with boats or whatever to pick him up and he refused and drown as a result. When entering heaven he asked the Lord, why did you not save me and the Lord told him how many times he gave him a way out. This is kinda what I'm saying is that God sends us ways to get out of our situation but alot of times we expect some great miracle instead of taking what God has set before us.

God bless †††

[kleptobismol]

they're a part of life...nothing we can really do to avoid it.

[jesusfreak3786]

I voted trust in God, because thats what I do, but trusting God also means being led in whatever direction He takes us. I haven't been to the doctor in almost 4 years, and the dentist in about 9 or 10 years. I don't plan on going to either any time soon, but if God wills it, then let his will be done. I have many things that point towards sickness, but I will see what He has planned for me. Shoot, I survived a ruptured appendix for 9 days, with His grace and mercy, and I still have my appendix, I'm a believer in our divine doctor. Praise God! I love you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[someone_else]

hm i could get in lots off trouble for sayingb we dont need doctors coz my sister in law is one.

but yeah i am a bit on both sides. God can heal and so can doctors.

[purpleunicorn_Andi]

God gave the dr's the abilities to heal us, and the abilites to find new ways to help people

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all.

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what ever

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what ever I

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what ever I had

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what ever I had I

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what ever I had I would

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what ever I had I would just

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what ever I had I would just the

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what ever I had I would just the faith

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what ever I had I would just the faith thsat

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what ever I had I would just the faith thsat he

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what ever I had I would just the faith thsat he gave

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what ever I had I would just the faith thsat he gave me

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what ever I had I would just the faith thsat he gave me cause

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what ever I had I would just the faith thsat he gave me cause remember

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by faith knnowing God will work through the mediince and all. I am saying that is the best thing I would do I would still believe in God to heal me of what ever I had I would just the faith thsat he gave me cause remember faith

[Godslilgurlalways]

I choose not sure becuase even though we have faith we must be wise because we know that God is able to heal us but we really don't know if he will. Which might be in his will for a purpose maybe you will help someone with the same condidtion realize who he is. I would so I wouldn't con;'t rush to the doctors at everything .Put if there is a chance it could be serious or something like that or very painful than I would. Doctors were out hee to help now I am not saying tod ependent on them no no. I saying here what they think it is, pray over the medicine and take it by