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St_Joseph_Cupertino
28th January 2008, 06:20 PM
Hi there guys!

Me again. I guess you are all wondering why I posted these questions last week....well, I'm actually drifting away fro the Catholic Church somewhat.

There are some issues that I do not agree with. (None of the ones I posted about here though) so I wanted to see what the Lutherans believe on a few issues.

Thank you for all your answers, I do think that in my heart I am much more inline with the Lutheran (LCMS) view of Christianity.

I do not want to badmouth the RCC at all, they really mean well and their hearts are in the right place, but I thought you guys deserved to know.

Thanks!

BabyLutheran
28th January 2008, 06:37 PM
I can empathize with you. I never was Catholic, but I was really close to deciding in that direction. I am very pleased that the Lord called me to be Lutheran, so here I am. Keep praying and try attending some services, and ask lots of questions!

porterross
28th January 2008, 06:44 PM
Hi there guys!

Me again. I guess you are all wondering why I posted these questions last week....well, I'm actually drifting away fro the Catholic Church somewhat.

There are some issues that I do not agree with. (None of the ones I posted about here though) so I wanted to see what the Lutherans believe on a few issues.

Thank you for all your answers, I do think that in my heart I am much more inline with the Lutheran (LCMS) view of Christianity.

I do not want to badmouth the RCC at all, they really mean well and their hearts are in the right place, but I thought you guys deserved to know.

Thanks!


No explanation necessary and there is no need to bash the RCC. Some of my best friends are Roman Catholic and many of my favorite Lutherans are former Roman Catholics, including Luther himself, so you fit right in.;)

I live in an area that is predominantly RC and the people couldn't be much more faithful or charitable, so I have a soft spot for those in the RCC. Of course, then there is the issue of the collars, but we won't go there. :ebil: ^_^

If not for my mother having some issues with the RCC (which might well mirror yours), I too, could have been raised there instead of the LCMS. I will confess to you right now that I do watch EWTN and that there is a nagging longing for reconciliation. Am I alone in that? :sorry:

St_Joseph_Cupertino
28th January 2008, 06:54 PM
Thanks for the great words guys! :)

I will confess to you right now that I do watch EWTN and that there is a nagging longing for reconciliation. Am I alone in that? :sorry:

poterross, I do not think you are alone in this. I think there are many similarities, but I also think that the Catholics will not budge on issues....if other denominations want to reconcile with the Church, the'd pretty much have to change their beliefs to fit into RCC...

I don't think that will happen, unfortunately.

DaRev
28th January 2008, 07:00 PM
Hi there guys!

Me again. I guess you are all wondering why I posted these questions last week....well, I'm actually drifting away fro the Catholic Church somewhat.

There are some issues that I do not agree with. (None of the ones I posted about here though) so I wanted to see what the Lutherans believe on a few issues.

Thank you for all your answers, I do think that in my heart I am much more inline with the Lutheran (LCMS) view of Christianity.

I do not want to badmouth the RCC at all, they really mean well and their hearts are in the right place, but I thought you guys deserved to know.

Thanks!

I, too, am a former Roman Catholic. If you ever want to talk, feel free to PM me.

Of course, then there is the issue of the collars, but we won't go there. :ebil: ^_^

;)

I will confess to you right now that I do watch EWTN and that there is a nagging longing for reconciliation. Am I alone in that? :sorry:

Not at all.

LilLamb219
28th January 2008, 07:04 PM
We love having you here asking questions. It not only gives members a chance to brush up on what we believe, but gives outsiders who lurk a chance to read about many of the same questions that they're trying to find answers for!

MarkRohfrietsch
28th January 2008, 10:46 PM
:):wave:We love having you here asking questions. It not only gives members a chance to brush up on what we believe, but gives outsiders who lurk a chance to read about many of the same questions that they're trying to find answers for!

Joseph my friend, you are always welcome here.:wave: When I worked in the Funeral Business I developed close and long lasting friendships with two Catholic Priests. Sad to say, (for me) both are now with the Lord. Both seemed to be "closet Lutherans" on a lot of issues. One even celebrated Reformation Day every year, but from the perspective that Luther gave Rome the shock that started the counter reformation. Had Luther came along after the counter reformation, there most likely would not have been the split, and most of the wars and unpleasantness that followed may have been avoided. The Lord does work in mysterious ways!

Both these men helped me grow spiritually as much as my own Pastors have.

I have always accepted LCMS, and LCC practice regarding Closed Communion, and fellowship. I was at a wedding officiated by one of those Priests, and following the service he reprimanded me for not receiving the sacrament. I told him that my belief regarding fellowship did not allow me to participate. He told me that if the Lord allowed me to receive in my Church, since He is the SAME Lord, he would not punish me for receiving in the Catholic Church.

As friends they were a blessing to me, and I remember them both fondly.

Stick around Joseph,

Mark.:)

P.S.: Here in Canada we are Luthern Church Canada (LCC), in full fellowship with LCMS. The only LCMS Churches are "English District", which tend to be a bit more liberal, although there is a very conservative "English District Church" in Windsor, Ontario. My Pastor and their Pastor I believe went to Sem. together in St. Catherines ON. They are good friends (my Pastor was the Preacher at his Installation).

DaRev
28th January 2008, 11:03 PM
The only LCMS Churches are "English District", which tend to be a bit more liberal, although there is a very conservative "English District Church" in Windsor, Ontario. My Pastor and their Pastor I believe went to Sem. together in St. Catherines ON. They are good friends (my Pastor was the Preacher at his Installation).

There are also a few SELC District congregations in Canada and they are not as liberal.

MarkRohfrietsch
28th January 2008, 11:39 PM
There are also a few SELC District congregations in Canada and they are not as liberal.

Any in Southern Ontario Rev?

DaRev
28th January 2008, 11:51 PM
Any in Southern Ontario Rev?

There's Our Savior's in Chatham, ON. They are currently vacant but are in the call process.

Nativity in Kingsville, ON. They are also vacant but too small to support a full time pastor.

And there's St. Paul's in Toronto. Their pastor is Rev. Ladislav Kozak.

We also have one in Montreal, PQ.

InTheCloud
29th January 2008, 09:47 PM
Both seemed to be "closet Lutherans" on a lot of issues. One even celebrated Reformation Day every year, but from the perspective that Luther gave Rome the shock that started the counter reformation. Had Luther came along after the counter reformation, there most likely would not have been the split, and most of the wars and unpleasantness that followed may have been avoided. The Lord does work in mysterious ways!


What to poke a little good hearted fun at Catholics?
Talk of the Reverend Martin Luther OAS.
He was technically a Augustian priest and in fact some augustinians are proud that ML came among their own. Even today.

DaRev
29th January 2008, 09:57 PM
There have also been rumors in recent years about canonizing Luther. Think of it, St. Martin of Wittenburg.
:P

porterross
29th January 2008, 10:03 PM
Oh, the ironies.

ByzantineDixie
29th January 2008, 10:23 PM
Any in Southern Ontario Rev?

I highly recommend Messiah Lutheran in Waterloo. I attended Ash Wednesday services there a few years ago and was most impressed with the traditional service and piety of both pastor and congregation. It made me sad though to have to leave that and come home...to a congregation that...well...wasn't the same.