Not to sound rude...........

[Greg the byzantine]

but who are preacher's wife, and ebd19 :) :scratch:

[Akathist]

I share your concern. These are ET staff who have been helping in TAW reports to reach concensus. They do not act in reports or moderate actively here.

If the report is about something too theological they excuse themselves from voting in them. But if it is something more common like if a post is a flame or not, they help us as a staff team come to an agreement.

But they were not supposed to be listed as moderators here because they do not actively moderate this area... only help with some of our reports.

I have not only IM'd an administrator about this. I posted in the staff area for the Ecumenical Team AND I posted in the general staff area where the high level staff will read it too.

I said that I did not think that any of the congregational areas should have a staff person who is not of that faith.

I think this was just an oversight, some small mistake that someone made and not a new policy. But I am checking to make sure I am right.

[Tonks]

I'm not sure what is going on and am attempting to find out...

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[Dorothea]

Greg, I thought you were quoting Simon Cowell there for a moment. :P

[fuerein]

Wow, according to the profile preacherswife doesn't even have a single post. How does one become a mod without ever posting to the forum? ;)

[Silentchapel]

Wow, according to the profile preacherswife doesn't even have a single post. How does one become a mod without ever posting to the forum? ;)
By being a preacher's wife, apparently. :D

[Anhelyna]

Hmm - I've just seen this - and even more interesting Preacherswife does not have an 'M' thingie beside her name :(

Me not a happy bunny :( it's bad enough that you people welcome me here [ you know what I mean :) after all I regard myself as being a TAW member ] but having someone modding who is NOT Orthodox - sorry - that's really not on.

Congratulations Greg for spotting this

[cobweb]

I can understand the concern, but haven't you all always had a mod who wasn't EO? I thought copticorthodoxy was OO, correct?

[Tonks]

We have a staff member named preacherswife2004 (Lutheran, does TCL). I'm guessing that this is her sock that she used for training...if she was supposed to be added (and I still don't know) I'm guessing they simply added the incorrect profile. Any by training I mean issuing warnings, infractions, bans, ebans etc...kind of hard to do on a real account. Generally annoys people...lol.

I've sent up a flare regarding this so we'll see what comes back.

[Anhelyna]

OK - thanks for the enquiry = I see Preacherswife has now been corrected to preacherswife 2004 and the 'S"' is in place.

I'm still not happy that 2 non Os can act here

[Akathist]

I can understand the concern, but haven't you all always had a mod who wasn't EO? I thought copticorthodoxy was OO, correct?

That is right and I have expressed concerns about that upon death ears more then once.

(Although he is a very nice man and does like TAW very much.)

[Macarius]

I expressed concern over CopticOrthodoxy a while ago in a PM to a mod, got a good answer (he was elected when there weren't that many good or willing TAW mods), and dropped it.

I never brought it up publically because of my respect for him - he's so close to EO that I'm really not at all worried about it, and the integrity and grasp of the issues lead me to believe that he would never abuse his mod power for any kind of theoligcal vendetta.

[Akathist]

Copticorthodoxy does not have it in him to abuse anyone and is as far from the vendetta type as the east is to the west.

[Tonks]

They were added so that they were able to receive reports from TAW. As Akathist indicated above they've helped mods achieve consensus in the past though the primary moderation of TAW is still done by Orthodox.

It is merely a functional limitation of vbulletin that they have to be assigned to the TAW moderator usergroup or whatever it is called. All reports from the Ecumenical forums are dumped into the same queue so it can be eaiser to find what one is looking for this way.

There are currently ~130 open reports in the Ecumenical Staff queue and a little more than 3700 total reports in the archives (since July) to give a sense of the scale. As reports require a consensus of staff to act...it can get a bit unwieldy.

To put it another way...there have been about ~23K reports across CF since July 07 and almost 190K posts in all of those reports.

If you're concerned about fairness / action (remember...if you've been reported you now have access to the report thread, can post in it, and see what staff are posting) be sure to get in touch with Akathist.

[Theophorus]

There are currently ~130 open reports in the Ecumenical Staff queue and a little more than 3700 total reports in the archives (since July) to give a sense of the scale. As reports require a consensus of staff to act...it can get a bit unwieldy.


That's a really sad commentary.

[hungrytiger]

There are currently ~130 open reports in the Ecumenical Staff queue and a little more than 3700 total reports in the archives (since July) to give a sense of the scale. As reports require a consensus of staff to act...it can get a bit unwieldy.

To put it another way...there have been about ~23K reports across CF since July 07 and almost 190K posts in all of those reports.

Oh wow, you guys really have your hands full. Thank you all you moderator and administrator people for volunteering your time and efforts like you do. :hug: I know it's not a job I'd want to have.

May God be with you all. :crosseo:

[Tonks]

That's a really sad commentary.

Last time we ran the stats in Theology (and I'm assuming a general equivalency across sections) somewhere between 65-70 percent of all reports were not a violation of any sort. There is a lot of excess garbage that can be basically summed up as: "I don't like the way you looked at me."

TAW is on the low, low side of reported posts...however many of those that are reported are actually problematic (generally for flaming or various debative or asinine assertions against Orthodoxy). Though it may not always seem like it TAW staff does a very good job.

[Akathist]

Last I checked TAW had I think five reports of those 130... so not all of us are that busy, just so you know.

I have still asked that those names be removed as they were able to help just fine before. But, it appears that upper staff are firm that nonEO will moderate TAW if we do not have enough staff.


Your TAW staff are expressing our concerns about this in a united voice.

[PreachersWife2004]

I have asked for my name to be removed from the list of mods for this area and I will not be helping out TAW reports anymore. The drama my name up there seems to have caused isn't worth it.

I apologize if you guys were offended that a Lutheran was in your forum. And I'm not sure what happened with the profile, since my sock name doesn't have anything to do with my main account.

I feel very slighted by this and other threads that I have read recently. I am a fair moderator and I take into accounts the beliefs that all possess...whether I agree with them or not. So that's why I have decided to not assist on the reports anymore.

It is fairly obvious that I am not welcome in this forum, and that's okay with me. I do understand. It's your forum.

God bless.

[Khaleas]

I don't think it was anything against you personally at all. I think it's a pretty good guess to say that each congregational forum prefers to have mods of their own faith...
We have a few Lutherans who post here regularly and I don't think any of them cause any issues nor do we take any issue with them... The only ones we take issue with are the posters who come in and tell us what we should believe and in what we are wrong without having any interest in our faith... but I'm pretty sure Lutherans don't appreciate that either...

[Philothei]

I have asked for my name to be removed from the list of mods for this area and I will not be helping out TAW reports anymore. The drama my name up there seems to have caused isn't worth it.

I apologize if you guys were offended that a Lutheran was in your forum. And I'm not sure what happened with the profile, since my sock name doesn't have anything to do with my main account.

I feel very slighted by this and other threads that I have read recently. I am a fair moderator and I take into accounts the beliefs that all possess...whether I agree with them or not. So that's why I have decided to not assist on the reports anymore.

It is fairly obvious that I am not welcome in this forum, and that's okay with me. I do understand. It's your forum.

God bless.
sorry you got that impression .... I want to welcome you and apologize for the bad impression you had for our forum. I want you to know that not all in this forum share the above sentiment....

I do appreciate your coments and your honesty too.

It is good for our pride to hear it when we have wronged someone...

Forgive me.

Philothei

[Theophorus]

Last time we ran the stats in Theology (and I'm assuming a general equivalency across sections) somewhere between 65-70 percent of all reports were not a violation of any sort. There is a lot of excess garbage that can be basically summed up as: "I don't like the way you looked at me."

That's no surprise, I thought it would be off the scale.


TAW is on the low, low side of reported posts...however many of those that are reported are actually problematic (generally for flaming or various debative or asinine assertions against Orthodoxy). Though it may not always seem like it TAW staff does a very good job.

I would not know that. Only some have access to these posts and data. But I'm sure I can trust the staff.

[Theophorus]

I feel very slighted by this and other threads that I have read recently. I am a fair moderator and I take into accounts the beliefs that all possess...whether I agree with them or not. So that's why I have decided to not assist on the reports anymore.

It is fairly obvious that I am not welcome in this forum, and that's okay with me. I do understand. It's your forum.

God bless.

You should feel slighted. It was not too long ago that this forum had a great debate on whether catechumens should be able to to display the Orthodox cross icon. Now one moderates it.

I personally can't make sense of much that goes on around here.

[Philothei]

http://christianforums.com/t6677971-taw-members-thread-to-discuss-policies-with-staff.html


I guess we can discuss things and issues ONLY over there

[Theophorus]

http://christianforums.com/t6677971-taw-members-thread-to-discuss-policies-with-staff.html


I guess we can discuss things and issues ONLY over there

I work for a living, so I guess I have not kept up with reading the side of the barn.

[PreachersWife2004]

sorry you got that impression .... I want to welcome you and apologize for the bad impression you had for our forum. I want you to know that not all in this forum share the above sentiment....

I do appreciate your coments and your honesty too.

It is good for our pride to hear it when we have wronged someone...

Forgive me.

Philothei

You, my dear sister, have nothing to apologize for. You welcomed me to your forum with open arms and no judgments. I appreciated that. I am SO sorry I didn't respond to your PM, but it was a very busy time for me as my infant son Isaac was in the NICU at the time. But it meant a lot to me to receive that email!

For the rest of the forum, I appreciate the desire to have only EO people modding in TAW. However, I think the way it has been expressed both here and in other places has been somewhat insulting to those of us who are not EO, as though we were somehow not good enough. Even if you really believed that, there are better ways to say that you wish to have only EOs modding here.

I can honestly say that while I would be surprised that someone who isn't Lutheran would want to mod TCL, but I wouldn't complain about them unless they were not doing their job. I believe that modding for other forums other than what we believe can motivate us to study and learn more, and how could that possibly be a bad thing when it comes to our Lord and Savior?

Peace.

[Philothei]

I am so sorry to hear about your son...

I hope he is doing well. Prayers for you.
Philothei

[PreachersWife2004]

Oh he is doing much better and he is home now. His stay in the NICU was only nine days. Compared to the other babies that were there, that's pretty short! It was just a very stressful nine days!

[Lukaris]

Oh he is doing much better and he is home now. His stay in the NICU was only nine days. Compared to the other babies that were there, that's pretty short! It was just a very stressful nine days!
This is good news, God bless you.