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rockytrails
21st January 2008, 01:12 AM
How many lutherans have bought their 5 dollar indulgence to sin boldly yet?
This lutheran licence to "sin boldly is still available
from www.Oldlutheran.com (http://www.Oldlutheran.com)
I think their going rather fast .
i would not proudly show them at Judgement day though.
Gods blesisngs

porterross
21st January 2008, 01:26 AM
Nope, but I'd pay for the lager. ;)

Melethiel
21st January 2008, 02:23 AM
One Reformation Day when the regular pastor was out, one of the German professors who goes to my church handed out indulgences (facsimiles of the ones Tetzel sold)...;)

Izdaari
21st January 2008, 05:40 AM
It's gotta be a joke. IIRC, the selling of indulgences was one of the practices that drove Luther to nail his 95 theses to the church door.

I'm with porterross on this one: buying beer is a better investment.

RadMan
21st January 2008, 08:32 AM
It's gotta be a joke. IIRC, the selling of indulgences was one of the practices that drove Luther to nail his 95 theses to the church door.

I'm with porterross on this one: buying beer is a better investment.That's the whole idea of the site. It's just for fun. Luther actually said "Sin Boldly" but he had a reason for it.

Radiata
21st January 2008, 11:27 AM
That's the whole idea of the site. It's just for fun. Luther actually said "Sin Boldly" but he had a reason for it.
I remember that too, but I can't remember his reason for it.

GratiaCorpusChristi
21st January 2008, 04:31 PM
He said it because his colleague Philipp Melanchthon was dreadfully introverted.

synger
21st January 2008, 05:06 PM
He wrote it in a letter to Melanchthon. In this version (http://www.holytrinitynewrochelle.org/yourti19047.html), the translation is "Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong, but let
your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the
victor over sin, death, and the world. "

Excerpt:

13. If you are a preacher of mercy, do not preach an imaginary but
the true mercy. If the mercy is true, you must therefore bear the
true, not an imaginary sin. God does not save those who are only
imaginary sinners. Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong, but let
your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the
victor over sin, death, and the world. We will commit sins while we
are here, for this life is not a place where justice resides. We,
however, says Peter (2. Peter 3:13) are looking forward to a new
heaven and a new earth where justice will reign. It suffices that
through God's glory we have recognized the Lamb who takes away the
sin of the world. No sin can separate us from Him, even if we were to
kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day. Do you think
such an exalted Lamb paid merely a small price with a meager
sacrifice for our sins? Pray hard for you are quite a sinner.

MarkRohfrietsch
21st January 2008, 08:20 PM
That's the whole idea of the site. It's just for fun. Luther actually said "Sin Boldly" but he had a reason for it.

If I remember corectly he said "sin boldly, but repent more boldly".

DaRev
21st January 2008, 10:52 PM
The version I remember is "Sin boldly, but believe bolder still." If I remember correctly, Luther's letter was to encourage Melancthon who had fears about teaching against the Roman Church on certain issues. Luther wanted to encourage Melancthon to rely on the mercy of God in Christ.

Zecryphon
22nd January 2008, 02:09 PM
How many lutherans have bought their 5 dollar indulgence to sin boldly yet?
This lutheran licence to "sin boldly is still available
from www.Oldlutheran.com (http://www.Oldlutheran.com)
I think their going rather fast .
i would not proudly show them at Judgement day though.
Gods blesisngs
I had that on my Christmas list this year. As I didn't get it, it's now on my "to do" list for this year. But why are you comparing it with an indulgence? Weren't indulgences a way to pay for your sins or the sins of others, not a license to engage in sin? This product claims to be a license to sin, not a payment for sins.

Melethiel
22nd January 2008, 05:40 PM
I had that on my Christmas list this year. As I didn't get it, it's now on my "to do" list for this year. But why are you comparing it with an indulgence? Weren't indulgences a way to pay for your sins or the sins of others, not a license to engage in sin? This product claims to be a license to sin, not a payment for sins.
The ones that got Luther ticked off enough to raise a fuss were a license to sin for the next 10 days...

Zecryphon
22nd January 2008, 05:55 PM
The ones that got Luther ticked off enough to raise a fuss were a license to sin for the next 10 days...
Ah, okay.