Baptist/Assembely of God

[2LivIsChrist]

Okay, im a baptist christian and of course attend a Baptist church. My church is right across the street from a assembely of God church. Lately i have been getting more active in the assembely of God then my own church, since my friend invited me to the youth group on wendsdays. Im going on a mission trip with them and everything. My mom is like sorta mad at me though, cause i do more for that church then my own. There isn't really a big difference btwn the two in the teachings they just get more excited. Ever since ive been going to The Assembely of God, i have been so much more opened to God. But i also feel bad cause im a member of the Baptist church.

[GreenEyedLady]

Hmmmmm. How old are you?
I think that your mom probally feels that if you would put in the same effort into your own church rather than another, you would also be greatly blessed.
I have learned the hard way, things and other churches looked so good compared to what church I was in. However, now, God keeps reminding me that HE lead me to the church I am in. God lead your parents into the church they are in.
I do not know alot about the AOG teaching, I know some is charismatic and some are not. I would obey what you mom says, she most likely knows what is best for you!

[2LivIsChrist]

Im 16 yrs old. My mom doesn't really mind the church, shes just scared ill end up joining the church, or something. I only go there on Wendsdays, but i love it so much. The thing is the youth group at my church isn't very organized, and kids fool around and aren't really getting in to God. But when i go to the other one, i can feel Gods presence so much more. The people are so much more kinder, and i learn more about God there. But i do like the serive at my church, with the senior pastor, im just, not really in to my youth group. But i still you to the youth group on Sundays, but the other one on Wendsdays.

[jenptcfan]

There's nothing wrong with attending an AOG church if that's where you feel God leading you. UNLESS your parents tell you not to. Then you have to honor their decisions until you're an adult.

You're not "cheating" on God by fellowshipping with another denomination. Especially since you're feeling God's presence more there. You do not have a responsibility to be committed to a certain denomination. You just have to be committed to listening for God's voice and following where he leads.

[bleechers]

I attend a SB church, but shortly after I was saved, I attended an AoG church (and was baptized there). There are two distinct doctrinal differences to consider:

1. Obviously, the doctrine of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Where the AoG would split Christians into two classes (those Baptized in the HS and those not), Baptists would say that all believers are baptized by one baptism into the Body of Christ at the moment of salvation.

2. Eternal security. Although the AoG would reject the doctrine of "maintaining" one's salvation (as many other denoms teach), they do believe that you can choose "not to believe anymore" (I know that's a simplification) and "lose" your salvation (even those "Baptized in the HS"). The Baptists primarily teach that salvation cannot be lost as it is a gift secured by the work of Christ and sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise.

On the gospel and Baptism by immersion and the Trinity and on Eschatology, the AoG is essentially identical to most Baptist congregations. This is harder to nail down because the AoG denomination is much more uniform than the groups which use the term "Baptist." Also, the false gospel of Benny Hinn, Ken Copeland, etc. has crept into many AoG local churches muddying the picture.

Hope that helps!

:)

[FrAzEr1803]

i have been having the same problem with kids messing around at my church in the youth so i've been looking for another youth group to go to but i don't know what else to do apart from pray for them!

[ZeroTX]

Guys,

Prayers are answered through God's influence on you and other people. Don't JUST pray. You must also DO. Show a good example of what you SHOULD be doing at church.

-Michael

[Mary_Magdalene]

I agree! maybe go to your pastor and ask to start your own bible study just for the youth. here is a great link for studies. they have adult and youth studies here that are awesome:

www.precept.org

[christianmom]

I think that you should deffinately obey your mother until you are an adult. Since she doesn't mind your attending, that is not a problem really. I have attended an AoG church in the past and the teachings are "basically" the same. Our church youth group has problems as well and we are working to resolve them. I think you should do what you can to improve the problems in your church youth group. No one person can singlehandedly resolve all issues, but you can contribute to the solution. Have you spoken with your youth director about the problems? Since you are a regular attender, they may like to hear your opinion about how you feel about the program. In the mean time, just be sure any teaching you are receiving are from the Bible and verify what you are being taught by following the lesson in the Bible. The important thing is your relationship to God. JMO

[ydouxist]

I grew up Baptist. Stopped going when I was around 16.
I believed everything I was taught, it just wasn't for me. I thought salvation was all there was.
I was married in an AG church.
I never knew you could experience God like that.
Talk to your parents. Ask them.
If by going to an AG church you develop a closer more intimate walk with The Lord what harm is there?

[Koey]

Okay, im a baptist christian and of course attend a Baptist church. My church is right across the street from a assembely of God church. Lately i have been getting more active in the assembely of God then my own church, since my friend invited me to the youth group on wendsdays. Im going on a mission trip with them and everything. My mom is like sorta mad at me though, cause i do more for that church then my own. There isn't really a big difference btwn the two in the teachings they just get more excited. Ever since ive been going to The Assembely of God, i have been so much more opened to God. But i also feel bad cause im a member of the Baptist church.It doesn't matter where you go as long as you are able to deal with the false doctrines and man-made legalism and come to your own faith. All churches have false doctrines and man-made legalisms, not just the Baptist or Pentecostal.

I've been in both denominations and find normal, balanced people who don't go along with their denomination's legalism. They will drink a glass of wine or don't think that Christians who can't speak in tongues are "second class." Believe it or not some even consider Catholics or Episcopals to be equal Christians.

The big difference comes if you believe you are called to become a pastor. Then you have to swear off on "the initial evidence" tongues theory or mandatory tee totaling. Then you would have to decide if that REALLY IS your faith, or it was shoved down your throat by some poorly-educated theological ignoramus and you must be true to your conscience. I decided the latter.

[brinley45cal]

Okay, im a baptist christian and of course attend a Baptist church. My church is right across the street from a assembely of God church. Lately i have been getting more active in the assembely of God then my own church, since my friend invited me to the youth group on wendsdays. Im going on a mission trip with them and everything. My mom is like sorta mad at me though, cause i do more for that church then my own. There isn't really a big difference btwn the two in the teachings they just get more excited. Ever since ive been going to The Assembely of God, i have been so much more opened to God. But i also feel bad cause im a member of the Baptist church.

It dosent matter what the sign in front of the church says,as long as jesus is in the house.If you getting more out of the assembely of god church by all means keep going.Everyone dosent have to attened the same kind of church,as long as what they preach and teach lines up with what the bible says,no problem.
And theres certianly nothing wrong with baptist,they are just generally more conservitive in worship and things like that then say assembly of god.
I myself tend to like a little more action and flow of a denomanation like the assemblys then baptist,but its just personel prefreance really.

[Koey]

It dosent matter what the sign in front of the church says,as long as jesus is in the house.If you getting more out of the assembely of god church by all means keep going.Everyone dosent have to attened the same kind of church,as long as what they preach and teach lines up with what the bible says,no problem.
And theres certianly nothing wrong with baptist,they are just generally more conservitive in worship and things like that then say assembly of god.
I myself tend to like a little more action and flow of a denomanation like the assemblys then baptist,but its just personel prefreance really.
Baptists have a real strength in what the Holy Spirit says in the Bible, where AOG is weak. AOG has a real strength in listening to the Holy Spirit directly, where the Baptists are weak. No church has it all.

[P_G]

Okay, im a baptist christian and of course attend a Baptist church. My church is right across the street from a assembely of God church. Lately i have been getting more active in the assembely of God then my own church, since my friend invited me to the youth group on wendsdays. Im going on a mission trip with them and everything. My mom is like sorta mad at me though, cause i do more for that church then my own. There isn't really a big difference btwn the two in the teachings they just get more excited. Ever since ive been going to The Assembely of God, i have been so much more opened to God. But i also feel bad cause im a member of the Baptist church.
Little one I am very excited that you have this dilema! Because you are interested more in doing things with a church than haning out in the mall or getting yourself in trouble.

Sounds like mom would like to see you supporting the church that she goes to. So maybe it is advisable as a GOOD CHRISTIAN girl to HONOR your mom. The best way to do that is to calmly talk about it with her and then ask to pray with your mom about it. I bet if you handle it in a mature Christian fashion that you will be pleased with how mom reacts to you!

Blessings little one!

Much Love

Pastor George :wave:

[brinley45cal]

Baptists have a real strength in what the Holy Spirit says in the Bible, where AOG is weak. AOG has a real strength in listening to the Holy Spirit directly, where the Baptists are weak. No church has it all.

I totally agree. i wasnt trying to put anyone down i was just trying to explain how the two are differant.I wasnt trying to imply one was better than the other,just some folks are more comfortable with one and not the other which is fine.I hope i did not offend you i certainly didnt mean to.

[Koey]

I totally agree. i wasnt trying to put anyone down i was just trying to explain how the two are differant.I wasnt trying to imply one was better than the other,just some folks are more comfortable with one and not the other which is fine.I hope i did not offend you i certainly didnt mean to.
Not at all. I hope I didn't offend you. God has blessed you with some good understanding.

[brinley45cal]

Not at all. I hope I didn't offend you. God has blessed you with some good understanding.

No you didnt offend,i just wanted to make sure what i said wasnt taken the wrong way,better safe than sorry ;) Thank you for the complament,from your posts it seems you definatly know what your talking about.Gos bless,ill see ya around the forum. :wave:

[Frankie]

It doesn't matter where you go as long as you are able to deal with the false doctrines and man-made legalism and come to your own faith. All churches have false doctrines and man-made legalisms, not just the Baptist or Pentecostal.

I've been in both denominations and find normal, balanced people who don't go along with their denomination's legalism. They will drink a glass of wine or don't think that Christians who can't speak in tongues are "second class." Believe it or not some even consider Catholics or Episcopals to be equal Christians.

The big difference comes if you believe you are called to become a pastor. Then you have to swear off on "the initial evidence" tongues theory or mandatory tee totaling. Then you would have to decide if that REALLY IS your faith, or it was shoved down your throat by some poorly-educated theological ignoramus and you must be true to your conscience. I decided the latter.Is it Baptist doctrine that we aren't supposed to drink wine? Well shucks, I guess our communions go against doctrine and so do our banquet dinners in which wine is served with the meal.....hhhhmmm

[Koey]

Is it Baptist doctrine that we aren't supposed to drink wine? Well shucks, I guess our communions go against doctrine and so do our banquet dinners in which wine is served with the meal.....hhhhmmm
You go to a Baptist church where wine is served for communion instead of grape juice? Oh, my, what IS the world coming to? LOL. My former Baptist pastor would die an early death if he knew. :D

[jenptcfan]

Don't get me started on the Baptist "Jesus never drank anything with any alcohol content, and we shouldn't either" discussion! :D

I respect both sides of the issue. I just think it's funny that Baptists are all into the "scripture only, not tradition" thing, but issues like this are based on Baptist tradition and not scripture. We're just as guilty as the next faith in putting stock in tradition. :)

[Frankie]

At our communion services they serve wine and for those who don't drink wine, for whaterever reason, they serve grape-juice. At the last church dinner (for adults only), they served wine with dinner. I guess I did not realize this was a "Baptist Sin". The only Baptist I know of that thinks any amount of alchohol is sinnful, is Charles Stanley and I thought that was just a personal preference of his, I didn't know the Baptist had a rule against alchohol, especially sense I attend a service that has no problem with it in moderation.

Frankie

[Koey]

At our communion services they serve wine and for those who don't drink wine, for whaterever reason, they serve grape-juice. At the last church dinner (for adults only), they served wine with dinner. I guess I did not realize this was a "Baptist Sin". The only Baptist I know of that thinks any amount of alchohol is sinnful, is Charles Stanley and I thought that was just a personal preference of his, I didn't know the Baptist had a rule against alchohol, especially sense I attend a service that has no problem with it in moderation.

FrankieWow, am I impressed! I had only heard of one church before that provided both. That is really good. I went to a church once that provided both wine and grape juice, depending on one's faith or preference, etc. They also provided both kinds of bread for communion, leavened and unleavened. I was very impressed that they were so gracious and considerate of other people's faith.

[JPPT1974]

Wow, am I impressed! I had only heard of one church before that provided both. That is really good. I went to a church once that provided both wine and grape juice, depending on one's faith or preference, etc. They also provided both kinds of bread for communion, leavened and unleavened. I was very impressed that they were so gracious and considerate of other people's faith.

Would love for that to happen
At our church but no way that
Will due to alcohol!

[Leimeng]

~ There is one church! It was purchased by the blood of Jesus. Either you accept the ransom that was paid on your behalf, or you dont. It makes no difference if they are AOG or Baptist or Foursquare Gospel. The Bible says: "Whosoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved." Salvation is not based on acceptance of man made theology. It is a result of your response to Christ's work in the Cross. To teach anything else is to teach a false gospel.
~ Continue to discuss amongst yourselves...

Peace,

Leimeng

Flatulo Ergo Sum ~~~

(***Insert Personal One Liner Here***)

[JacobHall86]

Baptist Doctrine is not the same as the AOG Doctrine. Please know this before you make any decisions. If you want more Feel free to send me a PM, as I am highly critical of the Pentacostal Movement.

[JacobHall86]

At our communion services they serve wine and for those who don't drink wine, for whaterever reason, they serve grape-juice. At the last church dinner (for adults only), they served wine with dinner. I guess I did not realize this was a "Baptist Sin". The only Baptist I know of that thinks any amount of alchohol is sinnful, is Charles Stanley and I thought that was just a personal preference of his, I didn't know the Baptist had a rule against alchohol, especially sense I attend a service that has no problem with it in moderation.

Frankie

Actually I know tons of Baptists who will enver touch it because it serves no purpose. I am one of them.

BTW, the quote in your sig is E.V. Hill, not Joel Osteen.