bigsierra
14th May 2004, 12:31 AM
in their statement of faith recently?
http://www.nazarene.org/gensec/we_believe.html
5.3. We believe that actual or personal sin is a voluntary violation of a known law of God by a morally responsible person. It is therefore not to be confused with involuntary and inescapable shortcomings, infirmities, faults, mistakes, failures, or other deviations from a standard of perfect conduct that are the residual effects of the Fall. However, such innocent effects do not include attitudes or responses contrary to the spirit of Christ, which may properly be called sins of the spirit. We believe that personal sin is primarily and essentially a violation of the law of love; and that in relation to Christ sin may be defined as unbelief.
I remember the "We believe that actual or personal sin is a voluntary violation of a known law of God by a morally responsible person."
I don't remember "It is therefore not to be confused with involuntary and inescapable shortcomings, infirmities, faults, mistakes, failures, or other deviations from a standard of perfect conduct that are the residual effects of the Fall."
This seems to do away with what some churches call venial sins. Wouldn't a one of these "failures" be considered "sin" since in some cases it would be a know voluntary violation? Anger, Lust, Gluttony, putting your self first. Those may seem inescapable, but with God and the Holy Spirt, they shouldn't be. Maybe that's not how it's defined, on closer study.
http://www.nazarene.org/gensec/we_believe.html
5.3. We believe that actual or personal sin is a voluntary violation of a known law of God by a morally responsible person. It is therefore not to be confused with involuntary and inescapable shortcomings, infirmities, faults, mistakes, failures, or other deviations from a standard of perfect conduct that are the residual effects of the Fall. However, such innocent effects do not include attitudes or responses contrary to the spirit of Christ, which may properly be called sins of the spirit. We believe that personal sin is primarily and essentially a violation of the law of love; and that in relation to Christ sin may be defined as unbelief.
I remember the "We believe that actual or personal sin is a voluntary violation of a known law of God by a morally responsible person."
I don't remember "It is therefore not to be confused with involuntary and inescapable shortcomings, infirmities, faults, mistakes, failures, or other deviations from a standard of perfect conduct that are the residual effects of the Fall."
This seems to do away with what some churches call venial sins. Wouldn't a one of these "failures" be considered "sin" since in some cases it would be a know voluntary violation? Anger, Lust, Gluttony, putting your self first. Those may seem inescapable, but with God and the Holy Spirt, they shouldn't be. Maybe that's not how it's defined, on closer study.