Updated: Positive Reputations Only

[Erwin]

Because of recent abuses of the reputation system, it is now only possible to give members' posts POSITIVE reputations, not negative.

This way, only positive comments are noted. This prevents members who disagree with the poster on personal ground from abusing the reputation system by downgrading the poster's reputation points.

Thank you for understanding.

[* kittie *]

sweet. i like that :)

[MariaRegina]

Thank you so very much, Erwin!

You've just made my day! ;)

[Brimshack]

Hey Erwin, I was just going to suggest that you repeal the negative rep options, becaus ethey really… Oh darn! I'm too late.

Seriously, good call.

[JillLars]

Thanks Erwin!

[BarbB]

Thanks Erwin - this will surely be a Positive change! :D

[Terri]

OK, Erwin I was going to give you a negative rep. for this new move, but I can't!! :mad:

Just teasing Erwin please don't throw anything at me!! :D

[molly]

Very good idea, too bad people take it so seriously!

[La Bonita Zorilla]

This is good. I appreciate Erwin's willingness to be flexible about this stuff.

[Stormy]

This is good.

[James Sez]

I got downgraded because I don't CCM :rolleyes:

Thanks! You ARE the man!

[Stormy]

Is there any way to erase the negative reps already given?

[Erwin]

Is there any way to erase the negative reps already given?
Not really unfortunately. We can remove the comments, but we can't really change the points.

[dignitized]

sokay :) Some one tried to down me with a Negative rep and they instead added posative.

[diddymac]

CCM? Whassat?

[Mom of 6]

I am new here but I think a thumbs up only is a good idea! I could see where being able to do a thumbs down could hurt someones feelings.
:wave: bye

[Blessedone_74]

CCM? Whassat?
I think it means Contemporary Christian Music. At least I have seen it refered to as that. Which is the best music around if I do say so myself :D

[SpiritPsalmist]

Good idea Erwin. . .thanks

[LadyBird]

Thanks Erwin! Thats' a great idea. I didn't like the idea of having to watch out what I was saying in case someone disagreed with me.

[~Wisdom Seeker~]

Well, I can take it when I have an opinion. And someone else has a different opinion. That's just a debate right? But yeah, I've gotten more than one negative rep. where the comments were scathing and well....there they were day after day for me to read.

I don't know why people can't disagree with a subject without getting personally ugly towards people who don't agree with them. It seems a sign of something...I just don't know what.

Anyway. Thank you so much Erwin. This act in itself is such a personal blessing to me. I really appreciate it.

[Kathy]

Very good call...Thanks! :)

[Serapha]

Hi there!

:wave:

I thought it was a good idea when I first read the posting... there were people abusing the system as it was established.


After viewing this program for a couple of weeks, I think the reputation part needs to be dumped completely... it's becoming a vanity to many Christians on the forums.


I just disabled my rep and gave away all my blessings. I don't want my responses to be relative to any type of rates, but rather, to be based upon the Word of God.

I vote to get rid of reps completely.





~malaka~

[Ragamuffin]

Hi there!

:wave:

I think the reputation part needs to be dumped completely... it's becoming a vanity to many Christians on the forums... I vote to get rid of reps completely.





~malaka~
I think you are on to something. I have been here a matter of days, and feel slimed :idea: hen I read those and meditate too long on what those represent. So as a newcomer, with a fresh perspective, I must be right. Ha ha.^_^


Ragamuffin

[The Midge]

I enjoy giving them out with a positive comment.

[Terri]

I enjoy giving them out with a positive comment.I agree Midge. Being able to give the comments is what I enjoy. The points and little green things aren't very important. I hope if the points and the little green things are done away with, we will still be able to give the little comments. :)

I even wish we could give comments with the Blessings! :P

[Inspired]

I even wish we could give comments with the Blessings! :P

Hey that would be cool, give out comments and decide a number of blessings at he same time. Get the same effect only be able to give out positive rep but in the form of blessings. I like that idea.

[Rising Tree]

I just received a neutral reputation the other day. How did this happen? :scratch:

[Erwin]

I just received a neutral reputation the other day. How did this happen? :scratch:
When the person giving it does not have enough reputation power. :)

[hex98co99]

that is helpful.\

Hector ;)
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[Rising Tree]

When the person giving it does not have enough reputation power. :)Aaaahhhh. :)

[Alice the Sister]

What if you want a bad reputation? Or at least a stigmatic knowledge of the facts?

[PsychoBud]

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[Toney]

After viewing this program for a couple of weeks, I think the reputation part needs to be dumped completely... it's becoming a vanity to many Christians on the forums...

I vote to get rid of reps completely.

I second that motion! It only results in more senior members being able to manipulate the system. I wish a staff member would either defend (explain) the relevance or get rid of it. It is decidedly un-Christian.

[Toney]

I agree Midge. Being able to give the comments is what I enjoy. The points and little green things aren't very important. I hope if the points and the little green things are done away with, we will still be able to give the little comments. :)

I even wish we could give comments with the Blessings! :P

The guest book and PMs adaquately serve this purpose. CF does not need a system to distribute disproportioned merit easily influenced by other agenda. I post on a board that is very cliquish, for example.

[Toney]

When the person giving it does not have enough reputation power. :)

Emphasis on power is mine. Enough said.

[seebs]

It might make sense to fold this in somewhat with the guestbook system.

Curiously, in some ways it's actually closer to post rating than poster rating; since the button is attached to posts, it's always used for post comments.

[Toney]

Wait, forget it. My reputation points are skyrocketing.

[ps139]

It might make sense to fold this in somewhat with the guestbook system.

Curiously, in some ways it's actually closer to post rating than poster rating; since the button is attached to posts, it's always used for post comments.Thats an excellent suggestion.
It'd also be nice to do away with reputation abuses such as certain "drive by reputating clubs." Things like that defeat the whole purpose of the reputation system.
Seebs' suggestion would be a perfect solution.

[Matrona]

I think I like the reputation and guestbook systems as they are. It's nice to give someone kudos on a particular post (reputation) and the guestbook is good for just leaving someone a nice note without clogging up their PM box.

Threads that involve abusing the rep system should be shut down. If reputations cause a poster to commit the sin of pride, they can disable their own reputation.

[Shekinahs]

Wait, forget it. My reputation points are skyrocketing.
Yea, kinda figured lack of points was the initial reason for your earlier posts. People who don't have reps or blessings tend to be in favor of "doing away" with the systems. :scratch:

[Shekinahs]

I think I like the reputation and guestbook systems as they are. It's nice to give someone kudos on a particular post (reputation) and the guestbook is good for just leaving someone a nice note without clogging up their PM box.

Threads that involve abusing the rep system should be shut down. If reputations cause a poster to commit the sin of pride, they can disable their own reputation.
I agree it's nice when people what to acknowledge they like something you have said or if you helped someone on the board they thank you for it. Everybody likes appreciation. Nothing anti-Christian about that :)

[Tangnefedd]

As someone who does not not want blessing or reputation points, is there any way of not being given any?

[LynneClomina]

i like reputation points, because, generally, they indicate to me who has been around a long time and who kinda knows what they are talking about. kinda of like knowing who in your church is reputed to be a good person, full of the holyspirit, or whatever. i just like it. please notice i only have 25 rep points.... i am coming from a position of liking to know who has a good reputation, bacuase i might take their comments with little more seriousness. if you have people in a church known as deacons and elders, or ppl in a committee known as a chair or president, or whatever, why not here?

[ps139]

i like reputation points, because, generally, they indicate to me who has been around a long time and who kinda knows what they are talking about. kinda of like knowing who in your church is reputed to be a good person, full of the holyspirit, or whatever. i just like it. please notice i only have 25 rep points.... i am coming from a position of liking to know who has a good reputation, bacuase i might take their comments with little more seriousness. if you have people in a church known as deacons and elders, or ppl in a committee known as a chair or president, or whatever, why not here?
I agree Lynne. They do serve a purpose. Thats why abuses of the system should be stopped. In ""Emmas Drive By Reputating Club" I've seen people get hundreds of points in a day. I suspect that most people who have near 1000 rep points got them that way. But what about the guy who actually got 1000 rep points on his own, from people who thought his posts were worthy of them? He gets lumped in to the incredulity of the rest of them.

[LynneClomina]

oooooh, i totally agree with stopping the abuses. when i saw the drive-by reputing club i thought, this doesnt seem right. sigh.

[vibrant]

i like reputation points, because, generally, they indicate to me who has been around a long time and who kinda knows what they are talking about. kinda of like knowing who in your church is reputed to be a good person, full of the holyspirit, or whatever. i just like it. please notice i only have 25 rep points.... i am coming from a position of liking to know who has a good reputation, bacuase i might take their comments with little more seriousness. if you have people in a church known as deacons and elders, or ppl in a committee known as a chair or president, or whatever, why not here?there was once a feature called 'experience' which was a much better gauge, because as other's have pointed out, reputations can be easily acquired and doled out for the fun of it. basically, this feature showed how long you've been a member (ex. 359 days) and how long you've been active (ex. 339 of those 359 days) and gave you a precentage. there was some aspect of levels to it, but that's basically how it went.

it's gone now though.

hm. just like to add that i wasn't exactly liking this system - positive only - when it was first proposed, but now i do.

[AngelAmidala]

As someone who does not not want blessing or reputation points, is there any way of not being given any?
Reputation points I think you figured out. You just disable that in Options in your User CP. (It looks like you've done that as well.

As for blessings, unfortunately no. Because you receive blessings automatically for every post you make. Best thing to do with blessings is just give them away when you see that you have some.

[* kittie *]

about the drive-by thread.

if it makes people feel good...then why not? what's wrong with it.

now if you don't like it, you can choose to stay out of it.

but i think the points, even if earned through one thread, can be encouraging to some.

[LynneClomina]

about the drive-by thread.

if it makes people feel good...then why not? what's wrong with it.

now if you don't like it, you can choose to stay out of it.

but i think the points, even if earned through one thread, can be encouraging to some.

but it ruins the whole rep system.... a person should EARN it tho, not be just "given" it for fun. a person should earn it through showing their wisom, temperence, etc....

[ps139]

about the drive-by thread.

if it makes people feel good...then why not? what's wrong with it.

now if you don't like it, you can choose to stay out of it.

but i think the points, even if earned through one thread, can be encouraging to some.
The Drive by thread is a blatant abuse of the reputation system. It is like cheating. As I said before, if someone has a lot of reputation and actually earned it with insightful and charitable posts, there is no way of knowing that he or she didnt get it from making a few "Hi guys" posts in the Drive By Reputating forum. (It should be "reputing" anyway lol). It makes high #s of rep points pretty much worthless, as you never know if its an indicator of someone's knowledge and charity or if they just happened to post in some thread. There are plenty of threads that encourage people on CF, without having to cheat and abuse the reputation system.

[Erwin]

The Drive by thread is a blatant abuse of the reputation system. It is like cheating. As I said before, if someone has a lot of reputation and actually earned it with insightful and charitable posts, there is no way of knowing that he or she didnt get it from making a few "Hi guys" posts in the Drive By Reputating forum. (It should be "reputing" anyway lol). It makes high #s of rep points pretty much worthless, as you never know if its an indicator of someone's knowledge and charity or if they just happened to post in some thread. There are plenty of threads that encourage people on CF, without having to cheat and abuse the reputation system.
That's true.

On the one hand, I want to allow members some innocent harmless fun. On the other hand, we need to enforce the reputation system we have.

It's a tough dilemma.

[mesue]

but it ruins the whole rep system.... a person should EARN it tho, not be just "given" it for fun. a person should earn it through showing their wisom, temperence, etc....

If you question a person's reputation, go view their threads. Chances are that if they've been to Emma's Drive by Reputing Club (I think that's what it's called without going to look) then you know just where the rep came from.



Does a person’s reputation make you admire someone's post more if their reputation is high? What if the same exact words of wisdom were by someone with a significantly less reputation? Do you admire them less? The words are the same. Wisdom doesn't come from a high reputation score.

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7

For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding. Proverbs 2:6


Some of us don't choose to go to the threads that require us to show our wisdom and temperance. I got tired of the pomposity I have found there and rarely go to those threads anymore.
However, I do love my friends at Emma's and the fellowship I have found there. We would love to fellowship with you ther too, LynneClomina, and anyone else that wants to. It's much more than a place to increase your reps. If it wasn't it wouldn't have lasted this long.


I praise my Sovereign God that I didn't have to earn my salvation and that it was just given because I asked Him.

God Bless.
mesue

[ps139]

If you question a person's reputation, go view their threads. Chances are that if they've been to Emma's Drive by Reputing Club (I think that's what it's called without going to look) then you know just where the rep came from.

I don't think that should be necessary. If someone got all their rep there 4 months ago nobody is going to feel like searching through their post history. Basically, a rep like that is just misleading, and not what the rep system was designed for.



Does a person’s reputation make you admire someone's post more if their reputation is high? What if the same exact words of wisdom were by someone with a significantly less reputation? Do you admire them less? The words are the same. Wisdom doesn't come from a high reputation score.

I will look more closely at someone's post if theres a high reputation. Also I'll sometimes look at past posts, to see what other good insights they have. But I no longer do this with 1000+ rep because I give them no credence due to the abuses. If someone has a low rep, and awesome posts, its likely that they recently joined. I always look at the post count. I give reputation points out a LOT, but only to someone who IMO has earned it. Wisdom does not come from a high reputation score and I do not think anyone was implying that. But a rep should be a decent indicator of someone's posts. The general complaint is that the Drive By makes misleading reputation levels, and abuses the system.


The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7

My favorite OT verse :)


Some of us don't choose to go to the threads that require us to show our wisdom and temperance. I got tired of the pomposity I have found there and rarely go to those threads anymore.
However, I do love my friends at Emma's and the fellowship I have found there. We would love to fellowship with you ther too, LynneClomina, and anyone else that wants to. It's much more than a place to increase your reps. If it wasn't it wouldn't have lasted this longIm sure there is great fellowship there, as in the many other threads (for example, Reillys Pub in the OBOB forum - been around forever) that do not give out reputation points just for making a post that says "Hi guys." Its totally unnecessary, and misleading, and an abuse.


Erwin, you run this board really, really well. How to solve the tough dilemma is up to you. When you mentioned harmless fun, the arcade is an awesome place for some harlmess fun!!! And like I mentioned before, other fellowship threads are great and last long. They are fine and do not abuse the system like the Drive By. Its not as if harmless fun couldn't be had if reputation abuses were stopped. There are so many great places on this site.

[lady in waiting]

mesue is right!

[FarFromHome]

Personally I don't see how killing the drive by thread would stop this. I've gotten quite a bit of my rep from passing out blessings in the blessing thread. Until you're able to stop people from giving rep except for valid cases, you're going to have this problem (which I don't believe is all that big a deal).

So what are the solutions? I don't know, but the only way I could see to stop people from passing out random rep would be to:
1) either kill the rep system itself
2) to have the mod's check that every rep is warranted

I don't think that either of these solutions will fly...

[BigToe]

As someone with a lot of reputation points I feel "called" to post here. Yes, I have gone in Emma's a lot, but a good large protion of my rep points come from other threads. Emma's Drive By Reputating Club (a joke for those involved in the thread, yes, we are aware that is not a word) is a save "haven" for some people to come and relax. People share things about their day, whats going on in their life, what their struggles are, what praises they have. The comments given with points are always, for me anyway, associated with the post for which they are given. If I talk about having a bad day, if I get rep that day the people post a little prayer and words of encouragement. If I share something great God is doing in my life, they post praises along with mine. It is a nice way to write someone a quick little note. And it takes less time than writing a PM or posting in someone's guestbook.

The comments I get on Emma's are reflective of the comments I get anywhere else. If I say something deep someone says Hey good point, thanks for sharing. If I say something thats not so biblically correct, someone writes me a note saying hey check this out for more information on that subject. If I stand up for someone, they can write me a note saying thanks. I get the same type of comments on all rep comments regardless from where they come.

If you don't want those rep points don't go in there. If you don't want to rep someone that posts in there then don't rep them. I don't think its abuse of the system. You may say I claim that only because I have a lot, but take mine away and I still don't care. People can give out reps for whatever reason they want. If we can have games to give out blessings and that be considered harmless, why can people not give out reps to whomever they want?

[ps139]

Just for the record: Contrary to what someone posted in a certain thread, I am not trying to get the Drive By thread closed down. I just do not like when people completely abuse the reputation system, for reasons I explained already.
Closing that thread down will not do anything. Getting rid of the reputation system altogether would be stupid - like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Not necessary at all. And you are right, it would be impossible for the mods to check each reputation given, thats out of the question.

Blessings can be gotten by donating to the site, winning first place in the arcade etc, they're not related to this issue at all. I do not go in that thread and I do not give points to people who look like they do. I've seen the pages, and it doesn't look to me like there's much theology being talked about there as you imply. Not that thats a bad thing, just don't make it out to seem like more than it is. Have fun in there, I just do not see why rep points are so essential to that fwllowship thread, when others of the same type work fine without abusing the system.

I like seebs idea of the guestbook rep system. Or perhaps if people respected the system and did not abuse it I would have no complaints. My point has been made, its up to Erwin if he wants to address this somehow.

[mesue]

when I said ...
If you question a person's reputation, go view their threads. Chances are that if they've been to Emma's Drive by Reputing Club (I think that's what it's called without going to look) then you know just where the rep came from.
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I don't think that should be necessary. If someone got all their rep there 4 months ago nobody is going to feel like searching through their post history...
then you said ...

I will look more closely at someone's post if theres a high reputation. Also I'll sometimes look at past posts, :scratch:

While you're there, looking in there past posts that shouldn't be necessary to look at, look for posts in Emma's. You don't have to read the posts, just note them.

But I no longer do this with 1000+ rep because I give them no credence
are you saying that people that have more than 1000 rep points, who post elsewhere in CF have no credibility? You know this ... how?


If you'll look in your user CP you'll see the comments people make when they increase your reputaion. I count these messages as some of my many blessings. These notes from my friends bring a smile to my face. I don't want to lose that.
I don't need green dots to decipher wisdom from prattle, but the green dots are bonus ;)

[ps139]

are you saying that people that have more than 1000 rep points, who post elsewhere in CF have no credibility? You know this ... how?
I do not know where they post but I am not going to read through all of their posts deciding whether their reputation is valid or not, I do not have that much time to waste. So, seeing 1000+ points, and not checking their post history (which nobody should be expected to), I see the 100+ points as a joke. Thats my point. (There is one member here to whom this does not apply, he earned them - but I know him well - what about people that do not?)




If you are confused :scratch: by what I said before, re-read it.
I do not want to get in a debate with a whole group of people in the Announcements forum. So, if you really want to continue this, pm me.

[mesue]

I do not want to get in a debate with a whole group of people in the Announcements forum. So, if you really want to continue this, pm me.
I don't have time for a debate. I homeschool my children and work full time. For these reasons alone do I love Emma's, and feel very protective of it. PMing takes too long.

[* kittie *]

Okay, from what I read, I feel as some people see this rep. system as a...popularity thing. Like for instance, if you have a lot of points, you're obviously some wise creature.

So my question is...Is that why people are upset? Are you (no one in particular) upset that some have 3000 because of a drive-by, while you have 400 from being "wise"? hmmm...Just wondering. I think each of us are arguing from a different viewpoint. Some see the rep. system as fun (and as something to encourage others), while others see it as something serious.

Because you can't argue when you can't see the other side....

As for me, I give them out as encouragement because I never go into the debate forums (meaning I wouldn't give them out for "wise" posts). The rep. system is for everyone. If someone feels down one day, or they're new...I'll give them points.

[dsdumpling]

ps139, Emma's drive by is kinda like your Reilly's Pub in OBOB. I like posting in Emma's and talking to my friends. I don't just randomly give out rep points solely in there. If I see a good post anywhere on CF I'll hit you with some rep points.

I guess I don't see what the big deal is.

[LynneClomina]

Okay, from what I read, I feel as some people see this rep. system as a...popularity thing. Like for instance, if you have a lot of points, you're obviously some wise creature.

So my question is...Is that why people are upset? Are you (no one in particular) upset that some have 3000 because of a drive-by, while you have 400 from being "wise"? hmmm...Just wondering. I think each of us are arguing from a different viewpoint. Some see the rep. system as fun (and as something to encourage others), while others see it as something serious.

Because you can't argue when you can't see the other side....

As for me, I give them out as encouragement because I never go into the debate forums (meaning I wouldn't give them out for "wise" posts). The rep. system is for everyone. If someone feels down one day, or they're new...I'll give them points.

cant blessings be for the fun stuff?? i mean, they are the GREATEST when it comes to encouraging ppl when they are down... especially newbies... and theyre useful! whereas the reps are REPUTATION, which should indicate your reputation, not how often you've been encouraged....

[mesue]

cant blessings be for the fun stuff?? i mean, they are the GREATEST when it comes to encouraging ppl when they are down... especially newbies... and theyre useful! whereas the reps are REPUTATION, which should indicate your reputation, not how often you've been encouraged....
I don't know where the blessings come from unless someone posts that they blessed me. When you increase someone's rep you get to send a little love note with it and not have everyone read it because it's not in a post.

[LynneClomina]

I don't know where the blessings come from unless someone posts that they blessed me. When you increase someone's rep you get to send a little love note with it and not have everyone read it because it's not in a post.

my suggestions: make the little note in their guest book? tell them your are blessing them, or dont tell, what ever ya want... or PM them. that's easy to do. :hug:

[BigToe]

people can read guestbooks entries as well. and clicking a thumbs up to write a note is much easier and quicker than clicking someone's name, selecting to send a pm and all that other junk you have to select or deselect to send a pm.

perhaps we can have the private note that way and not give points out. i really don't care. i just like being able to send someone a quick little note to let them know they are cared for. sending someone a 4 word PM seems kinda ridiculous

[JMRE5150]

Im posting here exactly what I posted in the supporter forums:


I absolutely agree with dsdumpling here! I LOVE the rep threads (Ummm, btw, Emma's is NOT the only one).


I want to add something here...Erwin has stated in the FAQ that you 'can' give rep points out for threads you prefer or agree with, or think are well written...but that is not the only reason why you can give them out.
It was 'suggested' that this is what they 'could' be used for. It doesn't mean they have to be. My point...I rep all my Lutheran friends. They could post "hello" or they could post a 2000 word speech. Either way, I like them, I talk to them in PM's alot, and they are my friends. I rep them each day.

Many others do the same. But my point is: Don't just think that this ONE THREAD is the disease or cause of the "rep issue" you see. If Erwin decides this is wrong, and closes a friendship thread where friends rep, do you think you are going to stop "repping amongst friends" in all the forums?

I'm just trying to get you to see the bigger picture here. Its not one thread, as this post may make it seem. With that said, closing one thread (which I believe SHOULD NEVER happen) will not solve your problem...so how would the folks who don't like them propose Erwin and the Mods police everyone out there who rep their friends...just because the can...? Its impossible.

This seems like a whole lot about nothing, to me...by thats just my .02

Peace, and I love you all!

Robb
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EDIT: Oh, I would like to add...that I have repped you before Polycarp1...a few weeks back. I think I have done it twice to be exact, but I may be wrong. I didn't do it because you had some kind of great response to a thread. I did it because I had reps to burn, I like you, and your name was on the page as I started repping folks. My point is, not all your 444 rep points are because of the reason that is suggested in the faq Erwin wrote, so unfortunately we all have rep points from 'other than expected' reasons. Sometimes I give them out for fun, like a few from me that you have. Enjoy them, my friend!

[* kittie *]

my suggestions: make the little note in their guest book? tell them your are blessing them, or dont tell, what ever ya want... or PM them. that's easy to do. :hug:
for me, PMing is hard to do. I mean...not that it takes time. But many times, I have no idea what to say. And sometimes, it's possible for me to say the wrong thing, so it's best that I don't say anything at all. Or other times, the person doesn't want a PM. For instance, maybe they're just clearing their thoughts in their journal. So...I give them points just to know I'm there. Or that I'm listening (err...reading).

I don't see what's so wrong with give out points freely. Again, like I said before, everyone uses them for different reasons. And being that I don't debate (nor do I read anything from the debate forums)......does that mean that I can't use rep points? Sounds like that what people are implying. If I'm only "allowed" to give them out when posts are "good", then well...I guess I can't give them out at all.
I mean...the only forums I go into are ones that are "basic chat".

Blessings...I usually don't inform when I give them. Besides, me getting blessings from someone and me getting points brings different feelings. Points are more encouraging to me. And...me giving blessings and leaving a note in their guestbook that "Oh, I gave you blessings because...." seems very...I don't know. It doesn't look that special.

[* kittie *]

EDIT: Oh, I would like to add...that I have repped you before Polycarp1...a few weeks back. I think I have done it twice to be exact, but I may be wrong. I didn't do it because you had some kind of great response to a thread. I did it because I had reps to burn, I like you, and your name was on the page as I started repping folks. My point is, not all your 444 rep points are because of the reason that is suggested in the faq Erwin wrote, so unfortunately we all have rep points from 'other than expected' reasons. Sometimes I give them out for fun, like a few from me that you have. Enjoy them, my friend!


Okay, this perfectly describes why I give them out.
Because I like the person.
Sometimes there's no reason; I just feel like it.

[JMRE5150]

Okay, this perfectly describes why I give them out.
Because I like the person.
Sometimes there's no reason; I just feel like it.See? Here is what I mean by my post...

*kittie* had 497 rep points, and 4 gems to show for herself. I felt like pushing her over the 500 mark (which gives her another gem) just because I felt like it, and because it would allow her to rep other folks at a higher amount now. Now she has 514 and 5 gems.

She didn't post anything that wow'ed me...or blew my mind. I did it "just because". Because I had reps to give today, I like her, and simply because I could. Whats the harm if people like myself get together in one thread (there actually is more than one...look harder) and fellowship together with small talk and repping?

Again, Erwin gave a "suggestion" as to how to use reps. Noone ever said that was the ONLY reason or rule to give them out, as I have just showed by my example of repping *kittie* just now.

I'm even shocked we are having this discussion. Its just plain silly. They are reps..just enjoy them for whatever reason.

[Evee]

Really I agree I think I will rep you because your great posts on Jehovah's witnesses.

[LynneClomina]

ok, how about this? change the rep system to "love gems" or something, and start a whole new system for genuine reps.... keep the two systems separate.

[robl]

What do you propose to keep the new system pure and free from giving reputaion (or whatever you would call it) for reasons that don't meet your standards? The key to this whole debate is that we must be Bereans (Acts 17:11 These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so) and search the scriptures to see if the comments made in a post line up with them. You honestly think that someone with less reputation points (or more for that matter) has less insight into the scriptures and is less in tune with the Holy Spirit? We have to be careful about putting too much creedence into what a persons blessings, reputation or number of posts are and start judging the persons posts on the merit of it's content. I personally love using reputation points to tell a person "Jesus loves you!!!" or give them a word of encouragement when they need it. It takes a total of two seconds to send and you never have to leave the thread. PM's or Guests books are a pain when you are crunched for time. I work and have very little time to spend on the forum and would like to see the reputation points stay as they are. If anything, we need to add a warning to newcomers to not place too much stock in any numbers (Blessings, reps, or #of posts). The real judgement needs to be based on what the content of the post is.
In His unending love,
Rob

[mesue]

my suggestions: make the little note in their guest book? tell them your are blessing them, or dont tell, what ever ya want... or PM them. that's easy to do. :hug:
I like repping.

[mesue]

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a lot of us are not Catholic

[ps139]

a lot of us are not CatholicThere are a lot of "pubbies" in Reillys Pub who are not Catholic.

[ShetlandRose]

This subject has been enlightening. I had no idea that reputation points could be shared easily through Emma's Drive By......(what was it again?). I have never been there. I merely assumed that if someone has a large amount of points that a lot of people agreed with their views. Interesting. I thought the blessing system was the only means for giving friendship approvals.

I guess I have put more weight on reputation points. Personally, it encourages me whenever I receive a point or two. I think that perhaps I have posted something that God would smile upon or something that He gave me the words for (or even a bit of relief that maybe I didn't totally make a moron of myself). I try hard never to just let words carelessly fly out of my mouth.

And I love to give reputation points to others. When someone has shown a Christ-like spirit in their post and has stood firmly for Biblical principles, I feel they deserve a small symbol of accolade. But I guess when all is said, it doesn't matter to me how the points are received. :)