View Full Version : Dwight Lymen Moody--- Wow!
theseed
12th May 2004, 09:45 PM
Recently, or a while back rather, I learned that the greatest evangelist to ever live was actually Calvinist. He led 1,000,000, people to Christ in the course of his life time. Not only that, he established many other mission projects.
He turned to Christ at the age of 18, and seems to have been running a marathon ever since.
Here is a site that as stuff from a biography. Also, I found a recording of him reading the Beatitudes on another site. He lived from 1837-1899. So to have his voice in mp3 is quite impressive.
I'm researching him, because I want to know what he said has an evangelist.
http://www.biblebelievers.com/moody/
Cal
13th May 2004, 02:10 AM
Recently, or a while back rather, I learned that the greatest evangelist to ever live was actually Calvinist. He led 1,000,000, people to Christ in the course of his life time. Not only that, he established many other mission projects.
He turned to Christ at the age of 18, and seems to have been running a marathon ever since.
Here is a site that as stuff from a biography. Also, I found a recording of him reading the Beatitudes on another site. He lived from 1837-1899. So to have his voice in mp3 is quite impressive.
I'm researching him, because I want to know what he said has an evangelist.
http://www.biblebelievers.com/moody/
I never knew Moody was a Calvinist, I always thought he was Arminian to the core. I found a few websites that indicate he was Arminian, I would love to see what you found indicating he was Calvinist.
Thanks!
"D. L. Moody (1837-1899), heir to Finney's anti-intellectual and anti-theological sentiments as well as an Arminian in conviction, would add, "Whenever you find a man who follows Christ, that man you will find a successful one."67 Under Moody's revivalistic ministry, the world of big business became the target group and Carnegie, Wanamaker, Dodge, and a host of other Wall Street names helped finance the campaigns. P. T. Barnum even produced the tents. According to Richard Hofstadter, revivalism "evolved a kind of crude pietistic pragmatism with a single essential tenet: their business was to save souls as quickly and as widely as possible. For this purpose, the elaborate theological equipment of an educated ministry was not only an unnecessary frill but in all probability a serious handicap; the only justification needed by the itinerant preacher for his limited stock of knowledge and ideas was that he got results, measurable in conversions. To this justification very little answer was possible."68 Moody declared, "It makes no difference how you get a man to God, provided you get him there."
http://www.graceonlinelibrary.org/full.asp?ID=613
"Mr. D. L. Moody, the American Evangelist, was the great apostle of Arminianism in the nineteenth century. In 1873-74 he and Ira D. Sankey conducted a great evangelistic campaign in Scotland, in the course of which thousands professed to have believed in Christ. The Rev. John Kennedy, D.D. of Dingwall, one of the foremost evangelical leaders in Scotland in his day, wrote a review of Moody's religious movement which he entitled 'Hyper-Evangelism—Another Gospel, Though a Mighty Power.' When so many who had a high position and commanding influence in the Church were declaring that it was a gracious work of God, Dr. Kennedy says that he has to confess that he is one of those to whom the movement has yielded more grief than gladness and that he feels constrained to tell why he is a mourner apart."
http://www.truecovenanter.com/gospel/arminianism_another_gospel.html
"Nonetheless, the efforts to modify the Calvinism of the Westminster Confession found favor with many Presbyterians. Their thinking was influenced by popular Arminian revivalists such as Dwight Moody and Billy Sunday, or by scholars and churchmen caught in the powerful grip of the Modernism of the times."
http://www.wrfnet.org/articles/article.asp?ID=280
theseed
13th May 2004, 03:23 PM
I never knew Moody was a Calvinist, I always thought he was Arminian to the core
hmmm, perhaps I am mistaken. I thought this site said Moody was a Calvinist.,
http://www.founders.org/library/reis1/reis.html
But on the biography site, I saw nothing either way. But that everything is a work of the Holy Spirit in the Christian life, and that the world would have forgotten Christ were it not for the Holy Spirit.
http://www.biblebelievers.com/moody/26.html
theseed
13th May 2004, 03:28 PM
Here is a link that discusses the issue, apparently, Moody believed in eternal security.
http://beloit.edu/~heesendr/Moody.html
Wasn't Moody Baptist too?
theseed
13th May 2004, 04:20 PM
Moody operated from free will position, but that's still not enough to make him Arminiast.
I think that he may be somewhere in between. The problem is, I can ony find what other people think/thought about him.
He is criticized for having organ music and alter calls at his preachings.
theseed
13th May 2004, 04:37 PM
Here is a bio.
http://faith.propadeutic.com/authors/MoodyDwight.jpgDwight L. Moody (1837-1899) - dispensational evangelist who was highly successful in Europe and America. Founder of the Moody Bible Institute. Stories of his revivals still provide a wealth of sermon illustrations. In addition to preaching, Moody also wrote books such as God's Abundant Grace, Men God Challenged, The Way to God, and The Overcoming Life. Not to be confused with moderate Baptist <A href="http://faith.propadeutic.com/authors/moderate.html#moody">Dale Moody.
http://faith.propadeutic.com/authors/nonref.html
Bulldog
13th May 2004, 05:12 PM
He sounds like a modified Calvinist to me.
theseed
13th May 2004, 06:14 PM
He sounds like a modified Calvinist to me.
Yeah, one site called him a dispensational evangelist, although, I think he was influenced by Arminiast like Fenney(?)
This site here as alot of bios for alot of famous Christians. This guy who does this site here is a baptist and calvnists.
http://faith.propadeutic.com/authors/nonref.html
billwald
13th May 2004, 08:26 PM
Most important factoid is that he smoked cigars.
theseed
13th May 2004, 08:36 PM
Most important factoid is that he smoked cigars.
Spurgeon did too, right? It use to be healthy. I wonder what happened :D
knee-v
14th May 2004, 12:10 AM
Finney was not an Arminian. He was a Pelagianist.
theseed
14th May 2004, 02:29 PM
They believe that you can earn salvation, right? I found this:
Pelagianism - a view of salvation that stresses the goodness of man and his ability to respond to God by his own power. Its approach is similar to that of Arminianism, with the addition that it denies original sin and does not hold that divine grace is necessary to prompt a sinner toward salvation.
http://faith.propadeutic.com/authors/nonref.html
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