View Full Version : Is "sin" and "unrighteousness" the same thing?
TasManOfGod
9th May 2004, 12:19 AM
1 John 1:9 makes a distinction. What do you all think?
Ceris
9th May 2004, 12:59 AM
Well obviously since 1 John 1:9 makes a distinction, there is some sort of difference between the two. The question then is, what is the difference? And frankly, I have no real idea.http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_12_10.gif
Andry
9th May 2004, 01:52 AM
If unrighteousness is the opposite of righteousness, what's the opposite of sin?
Ceris
9th May 2004, 04:04 AM
non-sin?
overnight
9th May 2004, 04:08 AM
see if this helps or hinders but even a rightous man can sin. :confused:
ChrisB
10th May 2004, 10:37 AM
I think John is referring to sin as the act which leads to the state of unrighteousness. You can't undo the act of sin but you can be forgiven for it. This leads you to a state of righteousness.
Does that make sense?
Andry
10th May 2004, 12:49 PM
non-sin?
lol.
When we're not sinning, ie., committing an act of sin, what is that act of non-sinning called?
Svt4Him
10th May 2004, 01:18 PM
sleeping?
rooster
10th May 2004, 05:57 PM
sleeping?
Bravo!
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rooster
10th May 2004, 06:01 PM
If unrighteousness is the opposite of righteousness, what's the opposite of sin?
Sin is refered to as lawlessness(1Jn 3:4) the opposite of sin would be the law or rather obedience to the Law.
Andry
10th May 2004, 09:28 PM
sleeping?
So are you saying we're always 'sinning' except when we're sleeping? That when we're in our conscious state we're sinning or in sin?
Gunny
11th May 2004, 03:25 AM
1John 5:17 we find a much broader definition of sin: “All unrighteousness is sin "
The entire text concerning this matter is at:http://www.ucgstp.org/lit/gn/gn009/definsin.html
Neenie
11th May 2004, 03:40 AM
1John 5:17 we find a much broader definition of sin: “All unrighteousness is sin "
The entire text concerning this matter is at:http://www.ucgstp.org/lit/gn/gn009/definsin.html
Good link Gunny! 1-John 5:17 covers it pretty well....
MariaRegina
16th May 2004, 02:35 AM
If unrighteousness is the opposite of righteousness, what's the opposite of sin?
The word for sin is taken from the Greek "amartia" which means to miss the mark (literally to miss the bull's eye).
So if sinning is missing the bull's eye, then the opposite is hitting the bull's eye right on.
This means that unless we are living the Christian live with a clean conscious, we are sinning. We sin or we don't. That's scary.
So St. John said in his writings that if we say we do not sin, then we are a liar.
A righteous person accepts the fact that he is a sinner, but trusts in God's mercy for salvation. When he sins, he immediately repents. He falls, apologizes, and then gets right back up to walk the Christian way of life. This is the way of eternal life.
The unrighteous person doesn't care that he is a sinner, and easily abandons the Christian way of life. This is the way of death.
Andry
16th May 2004, 02:51 AM
The word for sin is taken from the Greek "amartia" which means to miss the mark (literally to miss the bull's eye).
So if sinning is missing the bull's eye, then the opposite is hitting the bull's eye right on.
Right. So what is the word for the opposite of sinning? Is there an English word for the opposite of sinning?
Or, when we are not sinning, what is it that we are doing? When we are not committing an act of sin, what are we committing an act of?
MariaRegina
16th May 2004, 02:03 PM
Right. So what is the word for the opposite of sinning? Is there an English word for the opposite of sinning?
Or, when we are not sinning, what is it that we are doing? When we are not committing an act of sin, what are we committing an act of?
Sin is negation - missing the mark
Repentance would be the opposite of sinning - living in the presence of God.
So I think the opposite of the sinner would be the publican who turned to God in repentance and begged God's mercy.
Therefore the Saints of God (Those who walk in the way of the Lord) are the repentant and the broken hearted.
We sin or we repent.
So I would say based on the Parable of the Publican and the Pharisee that Christ gave us an excellent example of repentance and sinfulness.
To live in righteousness is to be repentant. The state of repentance precludes sin.
Does this make sense?
Andry
16th May 2004, 04:35 PM
Sin is negation - missing the mark
Does this make sense?
Yes and no. I know what you're saying, but you haven't answered the question.
So, as examples, if I'm in the middle of lying to someone, then that act is 'sinning'. But then, I've realized what I've done, so I repent. Now that I've repented, I'm now, say, washing my car. Am I sinning or am I still repenting? So if I'm not committing an act of sinning, I'm continually repenting? Or is there a neutral area where I'm doing neither?
Gunny
16th May 2004, 06:07 PM
Right. So what is the word for the opposite of sinning? Is there an English word for the opposite of sinning?
Or, when we are not sinning, what is it that we are doing? When we are not committing an act of sin, what are we committing an act of?
IMHO, as Christians we are engaged in pursuing personal holiness on a daily basis.
MariaRegina
17th May 2004, 01:34 AM
Yes and no. I know what you're saying, but you haven't answered the question.
So, as examples, if I'm in the middle of lying to someone, then that act is 'sinning'. But then, I've realized what I've done, so I repent. Now that I've repented, I'm now, say, washing my car. Am I sinning or am I still repenting? So if I'm not committing an act of sinning, I'm continually repenting? Or is there a neutral area where I'm doing neither?
Very Excellent Question, Andry
The true saints of God live in the eternal presence. Most of us unfortunately are not really committed to the Lord like we should be. We let distractions (food, sports, novels, TV and computers) dull our senses so that we cannot pray ceaselessly and always have the mind of God before us.
Truly there are times when we are neither sinning nor repenting. Those are the times when we are most open to temptation because we are not vigilant.
That is why the Holy Bible reminds us:
Be sober, be watchful for the devil roams about like a lion seeking whom he may devour. Resist him firm in the faith. (typed from memory)
Lovingly in the Risen Lord,
Elizabeth
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