Think I'll sit down here for a bit... (6)

[DaRev]

I hope you are right, and he does change his mind! :) But, from what we are hearing, it's a done deal.

Trust me, the press has hounded Brett for 6 years about when he's going to retire....we all thought it was funny when he played with them a couple of years ago. But, you are a big football guy, and you may remember it differently than I do. Call it fibro fog for me! ^_^

Well, maybe he was just playing with the press a couple years ago. All I know is that he said he was retiring and then he changed his mind and played again.

[Studeclunker]

As to the election... It seems the Republican party thinks that we will vote for the clowns. Sadly, the won't allow Allan Keys to run. He's tried, and they just shut him out. Certainly a better man by far than anyone running now.:sigh: Regarding Barak Obama and his middle name? The man's father burdened him with it. The media seems bent on ensuring the Democrat gets elected this time. Has anyone noticed that the Repubs barely get mentioned? Yet the Dems are the main subject. So much for fair air time... Don't you just love the un-biased reporting we get from Pravd... um, our media?:mad:

THE ROBINS HAVE ARRIVED!:clap: Along with the Canadian Geese. Yet, the supply line from the spring house is still freezing from time to time.

Stopped by Walmart yesterday and bought some Jiffy trays. Love the things for starting seeds. We'll have a Cracker-Jack garden this year.:D They also had a great deal on sixty Glad bulbs. George really likes them, so I splurged.

Anyone for a wee cuppa? I'll be Mother! The pot's 'stinky tea' today (LOL). No biscuits today, anyone else have some around? I picked up some crackers and peanuts to make Mum's peanut biscuits (cookies to us Yanks) yesterday. Perhaps I'll bring some to the kitchen in the next few days.

Hope you all have a great day!:wave:

[seajoy]

I'll have some tea, Stude!

[DaRev]

I always liked Alan Keyes. I think he's probably the most intelligent member of the Republican party.

[cerette]

Brett Favre retired today. I can barely type the words. :| :( :swoon:
Who is that?????

[Zecryphon]

Who is that?????
*Zecryphon runs and hides from the coming onslaught*

[DaRev]

Who is that?????
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[filosofer]

Who is that?????
He was a Viking-wanna be quarterback, but settled for Green Bay.




That's correct, right??? ;)




:D




^_^ ^_^

[porterross]

He was a Viking-wanna be quarterback, but settled for Green Bay.




That's correct, right??? ;)




:D




^_^ ^_^
Works for me. :)

[RadMan]

Who is that?????LOL---I was going to ask the same thing.

[LilLamb219]

LOL---I was going to ask the same thing.

Yeah, same here. I was hoping someone else would ask first though.

[DaRev]

Actually, Favre was a Falcon-wannabe. Their loss was Green Bay's gain.

[cerette]

I still don't have the foggiest idea who Favre is!!

[DaRev]

I still don't have the foggiest idea who Favre is!!

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/peter_king/09/30/mmqb/p1_favre_record2.jpg

[RadMan]

Edited: Nevermind----I'm getting cynical.

[RadMan]

I wish I had the enthusiasm and dogged determination of LutheranMafia. Must be a "youth" thing. I think he has worn everyone out in the TCL forum. :swoon:

[DaRev]

I wish I had the enthusiasm and dogged determination of LutheranMafia. Must be a "youth" thing. I think he has worn everyone out in the TCL forum. :swoon:

We can only tell him the same things so many times before it becomes monotonous. He's a misled ELCA product. There may be no getting to him here.

[porterross]

This is what happens when theology is approached like physics. One looks toward finite answers and the other growth in closeness to the One who IS the answer. The need to solve a problem drives one course of study while the other is fed by, while in turn feeding, one's faith. :)

[BreadAlone]

Yeah, same here. I was hoping someone else would ask first though.

Who is that?????

LOL---I was going to ask the same thing.

:eek: :eek:

You guys SERIOUSLY didn't know!?!?

:eek: :eek:

(:P That's okay..I'm really not a huge football kind of person anyways..it's just a big shocker to everyone here in good ol' WI. It seems pretty official this time.)

[BreadAlone]

Hillary or Barak? What would be the lesser of two evils? It has to be Barak hands down. But I'll be voting for neither.
My thoughts exactly (If I could vote :P).

[seajoy]

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/peter_king/09/30/mmqb/p1_favre_record2.jpg
There he is...my buddy Brett. :) I thought everyone knew who Brett was. I guess 18 years in the NFL just wasn't long enough for folks to get to know who he was. ^_^

[ctay]

I know who who he is and I'm not a football fan, but football is on here during the season. I don't watch it though

[LutheranChick]

I still don't have the foggiest idea who Favre is!!


Ok everybody be nice to cerette- she isn't from the US! She has an excuse.... :)

Brett Favre has been the quarterback for the Green Bay Packers (Wisconsin) NFL football team for 18 yrs or so. He has been a pretty awesome QB, setting lots of records- very beloved to Packer fans. Hope that helps!

[Zecryphon]

There he is...my buddy Brett. :) I thought everyone knew who Brett was. I guess 18 years in the NFL just wasn't long enough for folks to get to know who he was. ^_^
I'm not a football fan, but I do know who Brett is. I don't understand why everybody is so upset though. It's not like you're never gonna see this guy again. Won't Brett just join the other ex-football players who have been put out to pasture in the the announcers booth? That's what seems to happen in pretty much every sport.

[LutheranChick]

I'm not a football fan, but I do know who Brett is. I don't understand why everybody is so upset though. It's not like you're never gonna see this guy again. Won't Brett just join the other ex-football players who have been put out to pasture in the the announcers booth? That's what seems to happen in pretty much every sport.

I'm not a huge fan either- and Green Bay isn't even my fav. team- but not everyone is upset. My hubby is a Green Bay fan and when he heard, he said "good for him!" He's just glad Brett is getting out without any serious injuries- which is how many retire anymore. I think a lot of people just wish they had a 'farewell year'. Everyone knows he's not going to play forever- at 38 years he's plenty old, for a football player.

Even though I wasn't a big fan, I still enjoyed watching him. That's another thing about Brett- there were a lot of games where he would do some awesome pass at the very end of the game and pull off another win. He's a lot of fun to watch, and people will miss that.

[Studeclunker]

Football? Isn't that the one with the spotty ball? Or is it the lozenge shaped one???? I can't keep track of these things...;)

[RadMan]

Football? Isn't that the one with the spotty ball? Or is it the lozenge shaped one???? I can't keep track of these things...;) :thumbsup::D Don't ya just love the way they make icons of these people and use them for role models. ~sheesh~

[WildStrawberry]

Hillary or Barak? What would be the lesser of two evils? It has to be Barak hands down. But I'll be voting for neither.

Why vote for the LESSER of two evils??

Cthulhu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu)for President '08!

:D

Kae

ETA: Barack Hussain Obama sure would be better than Clinton. After 4 years he'll have wonked up the USA so much that its people will want to go back to Conservatism a hundredfold. *G*

K

[Jim47]

I think you may be right Kae. I really doubt Bark could muster enough support to pass a national kite flying day. ^_^

and yes, I wrote Bark on purpose, but I suppose the name better fits Hillary ^_^

[seajoy]

:thumbsup::D Don't ya just love the way they make icons of these people and use them for role models. ~sheesh~
:mad:

[seajoy]

Ok everybody be nice to cerette- she isn't from the US! She has an excuse.... :)

Brett Favre has been the quarterback for the Green Bay Packers (Wisconsin) NFL football team for 18 yrs or so. He has been a pretty awesome QB, setting lots of records- very beloved to Packer fans. Hope that helps!
I did not know she was from another country.....that is a pretty good excuse. :)

[latebloomer]

Studeclunker--Tell George that I looked up grackles in my bird book. No wonder he never heard of them. Looks like they don'l live west of the Rockies.

Good luck with the garden. I still have over a foot of snow on mine. Everything is still frozen rock hard. Sighhhhh. There's a rumor it might get above freezing next week.

[BreadAlone]

I'm not a football fan, but I do know who Brett is. I don't understand why everybody is so upset though. It's not like you're never gonna see this guy again. Won't Brett just join the other ex-football players who have been put out to pasture in the the announcers booth? That's what seems to happen in pretty much every sport.
Does Brett Favre really seem like the announcer type to you? He doesn't seem like one for the professional speaking business..

No..I bet he'll spend his days with beer in one hand, steering whell to his tractor in the other..:)

[LutheranChick]

Does Brett Favre really seem like the announcer type to you? He doesn't seem like one for the professional speaking business..

No..I bet he'll spend his days with beer in one hand, steering whell to his tractor in the other..:)
I think you're right, according to what I was told about his interview yesterday...

[Studeclunker]

Does Brett Favre really seem like the announcer type to you? He doesn't seem like one for the professional speaking business..

No..I bet he'll spend his days with beer in one hand, steering whell to his tractor in the other..:)

Yes, well, we've paid him quite well to play a child's game long enough. Perhaps it's time he did something useful and productive after retirement.:scratch:

We pay far too much to people who are non-productive in our society. Who are the highest paid amoungst our people? Actors, Golfers, Sports stars (Football, Basket ball, etc...), and politicians. God forbid we should pay people who actually DO something usefull!

I get so tired hearing people carp and whine about the prices in the local stores around here (in Trinity County). Yet, when they discuss sports, none of that comes up. They have no problem with ball players demanding salaries in the millions. Yet the poor woman who has the store up the street hears complaints about how expensive bread, milk and beer cost. She has to drive her own truck thirty to forty miles to pick up supplies and is expected to do it for free.:doh: Go figure.:scratch:

Sorry if that sounds like a rant. Still, I get sick of hearing about sports stars when the local businesspeople and pastors (the real heros in our country not to mention the vanishing family farmer) are just barely scraping by. It's like the title of a book I want to get, "This Present Insanity".

[seajoy]

Yes, well, we've paid him quite well to play a child's game long enough. Perhaps it's time he did something useful
I'm not saying everything that Brett Favre has done is worth while and useful, but he and his wife donate much to charity. They also have started some charities. Just before Reggie White died, he and Brett were planning another charity.

He has given much more to our communities than football. Also, football is the talent that God gave him. He was no angel...but neither am I.

As for farmers.....my husband has worked with farmers his whole life. He has been one himself. They lead a hard life, and I give them much credit. But, I also know that farmers need to treat their farms as a business. There are many successful farmers out there. They are excellent managers. It's not a hobby, it's a business.

My little rant....:sorry:

And I agree, sports figures do make too much money. And many blow it on nonsense.

[Zecryphon]

Does Brett Favre really seem like the announcer type to you? He doesn't seem like one for the professional speaking business..

No..I bet he'll spend his days with beer in one hand, steering whell to his tractor in the other..:)
Well, he has done a couple of commercials and did have a bit part in There's Something About Mary, if I recall correctly. So who knows? Stranger things have happened. Like Ben Stiller actually having a career due to playing the same character in every movie. LOL

[Studeclunker]

I'm not saying everything that Brett Favre has done is worth while and useful, but he and his wife donate much to charity. They also have started some charities. Just before Reggie White died, he and Brett were planning another charity.

He has given much more to our communities than football. Also, football is the talent that God gave him. He was no angel...but neither am I.

As for farmers.....my husband has worked with farmers his whole life. He has been one himself. They lead a hard life, and I give them much credit. But, I also know that farmers need to treat their farms as a business. There are many successful farmers out there. They are excellent managers. It's not a hobby, it's a business.

My little rant....:sorry:

And I agree, sports figures do make too much money. And many blow it on nonsense.

I stand corrected as to this particular ball player. Perhaps he has had such a long career because this is where Brett was used. As to Farmers and your husband, Seajoy, I beleive you mis-understood me. I rank Farmers, people like your husband, and other like small businesspeople as the greater heros of this country. These people are the ones who should be recieving a greater reward, and respect, than they currently are.

And I agree, sports figures do make too much money. And many blow it on nonsense.

I would agree with this statement with the possible exception of, "And many...". The fact sadly is that most of them just fritter the money away on themselves. The entertainment trade (movies, music, etc...) is even worse.

Just a minor difference of opinion. Though I still respect the differences others here may share from myself.

[WildStrawberry]

I have to agree with Stude. There are the exceptions to every rule, such as Brett, Boomer, Collinsworth, Munoz (yes, the last three are former Bengals. Hey, I'm from Cincy. *G*) etc.

But they are few and far between. Look at all the trouble the Bengals had this past season and the season before. I think it was 9 or 10 arrests the previous season for drunken driving, drug possession, assault...

We take some of these kids out of desperate situations and pile them with money. We don't give them any understanding on just what to DO with all that money. They didn't get it at home, at school...

And speaking of schools...wouldn't it be a wonderful thing indeed if we treated our teachers like we treat our professional sports players? If we gave them the money they deserve. I mean, after all, if it weren't for many of these teachers getting these kids started in these sports, we wouldn't HAVE these professional sports teams in the first place.

We need to give our kids better role models...and I, for one, think that our teachers, the men and women who get up everyday and work 10, 12, 14 hours a day(!!!) often using their own money to make sure the kids in their classrooms have the basic needs...tissues, pencils, paper, sometimes even food. And they do it year after year with pretty much no help from parents, the government...anyone.

Whew...there I was on the soapbox. Stude, you can have it back. :D

Kae

(ps, the above is simply MHO. Please take it as such)

[Studeclunker]

Whew...there I was on the soapbox. Stude, you can have it back. :D


That's all right Kae, (LOL) I was getting a nose bleed anyway. Besides, it's too exposed a position.;) I.E. one makes far too good of a target!

Well, I've got to get to work. I got delayed today because the spring house went dry last night. Now the pump doesn't want to work.:ebil: Demon quickie machines!:eek:

LOL! Hope you all have a great day!:wave:

[seajoy]

Stude....it's a rarity for you and I to disagree at all. It really doesn't matter....we are brother and sister in Christ. :hug: I always enjoy your posts very much....along with your humble heart. :)

[LilLamb219]

I hear ya, Stude!!

Did you ever see the show Dirty Jobs? THOSE are the people who should be making megabucks!!!

Yes, well, we've paid him quite well to play a child's game long enough. Perhaps it's time he did something useful and productive after retirement.:scratch:

We pay far too much to people who are non-productive in our society. Who are the highest paid amoungst our people? Actors, Golfers, Sports stars (Football, Basket ball, etc...), and politicians. God forbid we should pay people who actually DO something usefull!

I get so tired hearing people carp and whine about the prices in the local stores around here (in Trinity County). Yet, when they discuss sports, none of that comes up. They have no problem with ball players demanding salaries in the millions. Yet the poor woman who has the store up the street hears complaints about how expensive bread, milk and beer cost. She has to drive her own truck thirty to forty miles to pick up supplies and is expected to do it for free.:doh: Go figure.:scratch:

Sorry if that sounds like a rant. Still, I get sick of hearing about sports stars when the local businesspeople and pastors (the real heros in our country not to mention the vanishing family farmer) are just barely scraping by. It's like the title of a book I want to get, "This Present Insanity".

[seajoy]

I hear ya, Stude!!

Did you ever see the show Dirty Jobs? THOSE are the people who should be making megabucks!!!
That is one gross show, LL! :sick:

[DaRev]

And speaking of schools...wouldn't it be a wonderful thing indeed if we treated our teachers like we treat our professional sports players? If we gave them the money they deserve. I mean, after all, if it weren't for many of these teachers getting these kids started in these sports, we wouldn't HAVE these professional sports teams in the first place.

I would be in favor of paying public school teachers more if they actually did anything to get paid for. Public schools in this country are a joke. They are cesspools of immorailty and ignorance. The teachers and their unions have ruined education in this country. If they are so great, why do we have a growing number of kids graduating high school who cannot read or write, and why do the standardized test score of US students rank among the lowest in the world?

We need to give our kids better role models...and I, for one, think that our teachers, the men and women who get up everyday and work 10, 12, 14 hours a day(!!!) often using their own money to make sure the kids in their classrooms have the basic needs...tissues, pencils, paper, sometimes even food. And they do it year after year with pretty much no help from parents, the government...anyone.

Where do you live?? Certainly no where I've ever been or heard of. Public schools are way over funded by the government for the level of education they provide. It costs public schools twice as much to educate a child for one year than it does a private or parochial school, and the level of education from the private and parochial schools is much higher.

All schools should be competitive. And we need vouchers!!!

There. My rant. :)

[WildStrawberry]

I would be in favor of paying public school teachers more if they actually did anything to get paid for. Public schools in this country are a joke. They are cesspools of immorailty and ignorance. The teachers and their unions have ruined education in this country. If they are so great, why do we have a growing number of kids graduating high school who cannot read or write, and why do the standardized test score of US students rank among the lowest in the world?

And if more parents were involved in what their kids were doing instead of trying to be their friends, perhaps maybe the teachers could actually teach instead of having to spend 95% of class disciplining the students.

Parents these days (except for the rare few) don't send their kids to school for an education, they send them there for the free babysitting. They don't get involved.




Where do you live?? Certainly no where I've ever been or heard of. Public schools are way over funded by the government for the level of education they provide. It costs public schools twice as much to educate a child for one year than it does a private or parochial school, and the level of education from the private and parochial schools is much higher.

All schools should be competitive. And we need vouchers!!!

There. My rant. :)

I agree. We need vouchers. Whole HEARTEDLY I agree.

I live in Cincinnati (as you well know silly! :D) and I have many many many friends who went into teaching. I see what they go through on a day to day basis. It sucks.

Kae

[DaRev]

And if more parents were involved in what their kids were doing instead of trying to be their friends, perhaps maybe the teachers could actually teach instead of having to spend 95% of class disciplining the students.

Parents these days (except for the rare few) don't send their kids to school for an education, they send them there for the free babysitting. They don't get involved.

That may be true to an extent, but in a society that demands two incomes in a family, or a society that promotes single parenthood, it's not an easy fix.

What is needed is smaller schools and not centralized zoos, smaller classes, uniform dress, and the ability of the school to discipline. Kids get away with murder (literally) in this society. They aren't held accountable for anything because of their age. Nonsense!!

[WildStrawberry]

I see that you and I are on 2 sides of the same fight. :D Meaning, I totally agree with what you're saying and I think that what you're saying really meshes well with what I'm saying...if I could just say it better than I have.

:D

Kae

[DaRev]

I see that you and I are on 2 sides of the same fight. :D Meaning, I totally agree with what you're saying and I think that what you're saying really meshes well with what I'm saying...if I could just say it better than I have.

:D

Kae

You may be right. :P I just have real issues with public schools. I've not had many good experiences with them.

[Studeclunker]

I agree entirely with you Revrand. My youngest son was taught recognition reading and can't read worth beans. Vouchers would be a Godsend for the educational system in this country. Sadly, if that system were instituted, the Federal Government would horn in on what private schools are teaching. Then again, if we were giving out vouchers, the savings to the state would make it possible to refuse Federal funding for our schools thereby eliminating their leverage.

I hear that the California supreme court has decreed that all home schoolers must have the same credentials as professional teachers to teach their own children. Ah yes, isn't it great when the courts begin to legislate? Especially when the winners are the teachers union????

[DaRev]

I agree entirely with you Revrand. My youngest son was taught recognition reading and can't read worth beans. Vouchers would be a Godsend for the educational system in this country. Sadly, if that system were instituted, the Federal Government would horn in on what private schools are teaching. Then again, if we were giving out vouchers, the savings to the state would make it possible to refuse Federal funding for our schools thereby eliminating their leverage.

I hear that the California supreme court has decreed that all home schoolers must have the same credentials as professional teachers to teach their own children. Ah yes, isn't it great when the courts begin to legislate? Especially when the winners are the teachers union????

I'd like to see the gov't try and tell me how to raise my kids. Just think what might happen in Hillary gets in the White House. :doh: "It Takes a Village..." :swoon:

[Studeclunker]

You might find this article interesting:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50395

It seems that a treaty doesn't even need to be ratified by Congress anymore for the courts to start legislating on them.

[BreadAlone]

You guys know about School Choice, right? Like 20%(?) of our students are inner city kids whose tuition the school gets from the government.

They have to go to chapel and religion class though, just like all the other kids.

I, for one though, take issue with the Lutheran schooling system, so that's a whole other matter.

[Studeclunker]

You guys know about School Choice, right? Like 20%(?) of our students are inner city kids whose tuition the school gets from the government.

They have to go to chapel and religion class though, just like all the other kids.

I, for one though, take issue with the Lutheran schooling system, so that's a whole other matter.

Sorry, I think I've missed your point. My fault, I fear.:scratch:

[BreadAlone]

Sorry, I think I've missed your point. My fault, I fear.:scratch:
Guess I was just adding some to the convo..:D

[dinkime]

i think to put down ALL public schools (like this is sounding) is very VERY unfair...there are some horrible ones out there (are you a aproduct of one of those??) but i think there are more that are teaching children well and helping make them better adults (especially since many parents neglect this)....

[LilLamb219]

Not all public schools are 100% incompetent. Our school district is absolutely wonderful. My daughter is a straight A student usually (a B here and there though) and is learning a lot...and even sooner in the subjects compared to when I learned them.

I'm an involved parent though and volunteer my time when it's needed and on some committees as well.

We're probably one of the schools left where real Christmas songs are allowed to be sung :)

You may be right. :P I just have real issues with public schools. I've not had many good experiences with them.

[cerette]

There are problems with/in Christian schools also.
I know of several public schools that are good. No, they don't promote Christianity, but other than that they are good. I would not blame Christian parents who cannot afford elementary school tuition for sending their kids to a public school. (In fact, I used to be against private schools...christian or not... because we have to live in the real world anyway)

[DaRev]

While there are exceptions to every rule, generally speaking public schools are inefficient at best.
I did some research a few years ago. It costs twice as much to educate a child in a public school than it does a private school, and yet the standardized test scores of public school students rank below that of some third world countries. When I discovered this I was appalled, but not surprised.
I remember a few years ago the federal government wanted to have periodic evaluations of public school teachers, and the unions had an absolute fit. I never heard much more about it since then. I often wondered why teachers were so against competancy testing. Are they afraid of something?

[LilLamb219]

That's why the wise parents search out the 4 Star Schools whenever they move to try to get the best education possible for their children.


While there are exceptions to every rule, generally speaking public schools are inefficient at best.
I did some research a few years ago. It costs twice as much to educate a child in a public school than it does a private school, and yet the standardized test scores of public school students rank below that of some third world countries. When I discovered this I was appalled, but not surprised.
I remember a few years ago the federal government wanted to have periodic evaluations of public school teachers, and the unions had an absolute fit. I never heard much more about it since then. I often wondered why teachers were so against competancy testing. Are they afraid of something?

[seajoy]

My children went to public grade school and then went on to a WELS high school. My kids found the differences to be astounding. The teachers actually cared about them in the Lutheran school. They also found that many of their friends did not appreciate what going to a Christian school meant. Most of them had been products of parochial school from kindergarten on. Being able to talk of their beliefs without ridicule, and praying in one voice was so wonderful to them. They wouldn't have traded it for anything.

My hubby and I couldn't really afford to send them to the WELS high school....but someone told us, "once you make the decision, God will provide." And He did. :)

[seajoy]

I, for one though, take issue with the Lutheran schooling system, so that's a whole other matter.
You don't like Lutheran schools? :scratch: I suppose there are some bad ones...they sure can't be worse than what's being taught in public schools. The one our kids went to for high school was top notch. :)

[Studeclunker]

There's an interesting conversation going on in the Liberal forum on the LCMS:

http://christianforums.com/t6969852-the-lutheran-church-missouri-synod.html

I found their comments interesting.

As to the public vs. private schools; it really disturbs me what the Federal Government and courts will attempt to do in controlling our children. Now that parents are opting out of the public system in record numbers, the Feds are using increasingly more pressure to retain control of our children. Even to the point of impressing un-ratified treaties that Congress refuses to deal with. Until Congress starts to deal with these activist judges (as in impeachment), this situation will only get worse. If Hillary gets elected, look out!:ebil:

[LutheranChick]

I would be in favor of paying public school teachers more if they actually did anything to get paid for. Public schools in this country are a joke. They are cesspools of immorailty and ignorance. The teachers and their unions have ruined education in this country. If they are so great, why do we have a growing number of kids graduating high school who cannot read or write, and why do the standardized test score of US students rank among the lowest in the world?



Where do you live?? Certainly no where I've ever been or heard of. Public schools are way over funded by the government for the level of education they provide. It costs public schools twice as much to educate a child for one year than it does a private or parochial school, and the level of education from the private and parochial schools is much higher.

All schools should be competitive. And we need vouchers!!!

There. My rant. :)
While I partially agree with you, DaRev, I do need to say something in defense of public school teachers. I have a very good friend who teaches in our local public school- high school English. She is a VERY good teacher, but is so frustrated by the unwillingness of the kids to even want to learn. Sure, you have some kids that are good, but there are SO many at-risk kids. The school's hands are tied as far as discipline goes anymore, so kids feel free to make up excuses to walk out of class at anytime and not come back- or just not do the homework assigned. The kids have no respect for authority. Do their parents come to conferences? No. Does my friend have time to track down every kid and get them back into the classroom, or should she be using that time to teach the kids that ARE there?

How many extra people do we have to hire to walk the halls and check the bathrooms? Detention is the only 'punishment' anymore- these kids don't want to be there in the first place, so what good does detention or suspension do? Nothing. Call their parents? Nobody cares there- the attitude still prevails with some around here- "My parents got a 'good job' without a high school diploma (or only a HS diploma) - so I can too." Yeah, it's total crap, but this is what we have to deal with.

Ok- that was my rant. Off the soapbox now. :)

[RadMan]

Leslie Carbone, writing in the South Florida Sun-Sentinel (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opinion/sfl-schoolscol25forumnbaug25,0,226922.story), writes about the National Education Association (NEA) unions.
"The NEA shows no reservations about taking teachers’ union dues and spending them to spread a radical political agenda. Annual NEA dues can reach as high as $500. A little of it goes toward core union activities, like collective bargaining for contracts that keep members from having to attend after-school meetings or teach another’s class in an emergency. Some goes toward the hefty paychecks of NEA staffers, thousands of whom rake in six-figure annual salaries, far more than the teachers who pay them.
And a lot — as much as half, by some estimates — goes toward politicking. The NEA doesn’t restrict itself to lobbying on issues that directly affect education, like the No Child Left Behind Act. It doesn’t even restrict itself to weighing in on issues that indirectly affect education, like tax reform, which it sees as a threat to its own cash flow. The union lobbies on a host of unrelated issues, like statehood for the District of Columbia, even though many of its dues-payers don’t want it to.
Fortunately, teachers do have some recourse. In right-to-work states, they don’t have to pay union dues at all. And in others, while they can be required to pay dues for core union activities, they cannot be forced to pay for politicking, public relations or other non-essential union activities.
The NEA has done a solid job of stacking the deck against students, parents and teachers who want good schools. But that can change, if everyone interested in quality education stands up — and stops turning money over — to the NEA-borhood bully."

[DaRev]

While I partially agree with you, DaRev, I do need to say something in defense of public school teachers. I have a very good friend who teaches in our local public school- high school English. She is a VERY good teacher, but is so frustrated by the unwillingness of the kids to even want to learn. Sure, you have some kids that are good, but there are SO many at-risk kids. The school's hands are tied as far as discipline goes anymore, so kids feel free to make up excuses to walk out of class at anytime and not come back- or just not do the homework assigned. The kids have no respect for authority. Do their parents come to conferences? No. Does my friend have time to track down every kid and get them back into the classroom, or should she be using that time to teach the kids that ARE there?

How many extra people do we have to hire to walk the halls and check the bathrooms? Detention is the only 'punishment' anymore- these kids don't want to be there in the first place, so what good does detention or suspension do? Nothing. Call their parents? Nobody cares there- the attitude still prevails with some around here- "My parents got a 'good job' without a high school diploma (or only a HS diploma) - so I can too." Yeah, it's total crap, but this is what we have to deal with.

Ok- that was my rant. Off the soapbox now. :)

I agree with what you are saying. And there are a few causes for this. One is that kids are not held responsible for anything because of their age. The so-called "youthful offender status" is a joke. It teaches nothing. Many parents don't feel they have any recourse for unruly kids because even their hands are tied in many ways. Another problem is the way in which public schools are structured. I don't know about other parts of the country, but in areas that I have been in there is this movement to build larger schools in these out-of-the-way rural areas and herd kids into overcrowded classrooms. Teachers simply cannot control classes with 30+ kids. What we need are smaller regional schools with smaller class sizes. The problem in part is the unions and the increased costs of public education.

There are many good teachers in our schools. All three of my kids had the same fourth grade teacher. She was the most caring individual I have ever known. But she was in a vast minority.

[seajoy]

Hello...anyone home???? Wow, it's quiet in here this morning. I'll put the coffee on, maybe that will draw some folks in. :groupray:

[LilLamb219]

I'm here for like 5 minutes before I go warm up the truck to take my daughter to school.

Then later this morning I have a meeting at church to try to make the church more "green". Anyone have any suggestions? We're trying to get committees to use real cups and plates during meetings instead of the styrofoam things that clog landfills. Can you think of other things we can do to help our environment?

Hello...anyone home???? Wow, it's quiet in here this morning. I'll put the coffee on, maybe that will draw some folks in. :groupray:

[seajoy]

No ideas here LL. But here's a cup to go. :yum:

[seajoy]

I see Jim hanging around. :) I know you don't usually drink coffee....so here's some tea, buddy. :pink:

[Flipper]

While I partially agree with you, DaRev, I do need to say something in defense of public school teachers. I have a very good friend who teaches in our local public school- high school English. She is a VERY good teacher, but is so frustrated by the unwillingness of the kids to even want to learn. Sure, you have some kids that are good, but there are SO many at-risk kids. The school's hands are tied as far as discipline goes anymore, so kids feel free to make up excuses to walk out of class at anytime and not come back- or just not do the homework assigned. The kids have no respect for authority. Do their parents come to conferences? No. Does my friend have time to track down every kid and get them back into the classroom, or should she be using that time to teach the kids that ARE there?

How many extra people do we have to hire to walk the halls and check the bathrooms? Detention is the only 'punishment' anymore- these kids don't want to be there in the first place, so what good does detention or suspension do? Nothing. Call their parents? Nobody cares there- the attitude still prevails with some around here- "My parents got a 'good job' without a high school diploma (or only a HS diploma) - so I can too." Yeah, it's total crap, but this is what we have to deal with.

Ok- that was my rant. Off the soapbox now. :)



I had a public school education (first Catholic in my family to not have to go to Catholic school and yes I am proud of that fact), and I think I turned out ok, and I used to defend it as a fine place to get a good education. Used to.

Maybe not to the extent you are talking, but some of the things you say, especially about the lack of discipline, is making me seriously consider private schools. I can think of 3 area kids off hand who got pulled out of public schools because they were being bullied. My sister-in-law is a public school teacher and my mother-in-law is a paraprofessional aid, and the stuff they talk about in what goes on horrifies me.

Also, let's face it, I'm adopting 2 black kids in a mostly white area, and we hope to move further west, which is even whiter. There are a lot of racist people out there, and while my kids will have to learn that, I also have a duty to keep that kind of exposure to an extreme minimum and take a zero tolerance approach to the issue. I may not have much of a choice where private schools are concerned.

My husband works 2 blocks from Lutheran South. I hope he stays there - that would be convenient - but that's something that I would have to worry about years down the road, and pharmacists don't always stay at the same store in his company.

[dinkime]

** get in a recycling program -- there are some groups that provide everything and then pay the church or school for the paper collected (locally at least for me)

** create a mailbox system at church (saves postage and the carbon emissions from the mail truck) for newsletters and such

** switch to the energy saving lightbulbs

** adjust the temp on all the thermostats -- and turn them higher/lower during the week when no one is there

** low flow toilets or a brick in the upper tank to lower the water usage

I'm here for like 5 minutes before I go warm up the truck to take my daughter to school.

Then later this morning I have a meeting at church to try to make the church more "green". Anyone have any suggestions? We're trying to get committees to use real cups and plates during meetings instead of the styrofoam things that clog landfills. Can you think of other things we can do to help our environment?

[LilLamb219]

Thanks, dinkime, we're doing most of those already...except the lightbulbs and the mailbox thing.

Some of the ideas we came up with are to utilize our dishes more in the kitchen and do away with paper and plastic as much as we can although we realize we can't totally do away with those things. We're going to help people learn how to work the dishwasher since it's someone intimidating to a lot of our members.

We're basically starting in the kitchen and building from there. Baby steps :)

** get in a recycling program -- there are some groups that provide everything and then pay the church or school for the paper collected (locally at least for me)

** create a mailbox system at church (saves postage and the carbon emissions from the mail truck) for newsletters and such

** switch to the energy saving lightbulbs

** adjust the temp on all the thermostats -- and turn them higher/lower during the week when no one is there

** low flow toilets or a brick in the upper tank to lower the water usage

[LutheranChick]

How about 'carpool to church'? :)

[DaRev]

I just noticed that Jim has a little blue 'A' next to his name. Promotion?

[seajoy]

I just noticed that Jim has a little blue 'A' next to his name. Promotion?
It stands for "All I wanna be is the boss." ^_^ :hug:
Just kidding, Jim! :sorry: :holy: Congrats on the promotion!

[KimLCMS]

I just noticed that Jim has a little blue 'A' next to his name. Promotion?
Yea, he's runnin with the big dogs now.

[seajoy]

Good night everyone. :yawn: :wave: :sleep:

[DaRev]

Good night everyone. :yawn: :wave: :sleep:

Dobru Noc :sleep:

[seajoy]

Good morning everyone. :D

[Zecryphon]

Good morning everyone. :D

:hug: Good mornin' Seajoy!

*Hands Seajoy a cup o' coffee*

[seajoy]

:hug: Good mornin' Seajoy!

*Hands Seajoy a cup o' coffee*
delicious!!!

[seajoy]

I love Highlander Grogg. :thumbsup: It's from the great state of WI...Door County, to be exact. I suppose the beans were grown somewhere else. ^_^

[LutheranChick]

I love Highlander Grogg. :thumbsup: It's from the great state of WI...Door County, to be exact. I suppose the beans were grown somewhere else. ^_^
Good morning seajoy! :wave: I think you are right- I don't hear too much about the coffee crops in WI!

Oh the weather is so nice- finally up in the 40's and melting the snow! I even saw some of my spring bulbs peeking through the dirt, up by the house. Woo hoo- spring IS coming! :clap:

[LilLamb219]

Finally, spring. Isn't it a relief?

Good morning seajoy! :wave: I think you are right- I don't hear too much about the coffee crops in WI!

Oh the weather is so nice- finally up in the 40's and melting the snow! I even saw some of my spring bulbs peeking through the dirt, up by the house. Woo hoo- spring IS coming! :clap:

[cerette]

what's wrong with winter? I am already looking forward to Christmas :)

[LutheranChick]

what's wrong with winter? I am already looking forward to Christmas :)
Yeah, let's see, did you say you were from somewhere in the northern part of the world? We've had waaaay more winter than we are used to- even for Iowa! ;) In fact- I wouldn't mind a brown Christmas this year!

[ctay]

I'm ready for summer, got up to like 70 or higher today, ended up going to two monastaries today. And I probably didn't even spell that right.

[seajoy]

Finally, spring. Isn't it a relief?
Indeed...our balmy 34 degrees was a welcome change. :doh: I live too far north for my fibro. It's acting up in this damp air. Goodness, I sound like I'm 90! :| Some days it stinks to be me.

[porterross]

Finally, spring. Isn't it a relief?



I have a sunburn. :sorry:

[DaRev]

I have a sunburn. :sorry:

While I feel bad for you (:hug:light hug so as not to sting)... I don't wanna hear it!! :P

[porterross]

While I feel bad for you (:hug:light hug so as not to sting)... I don't wanna hear it!! :P



^_^ I guess the fact that lots of Yankees and Canucks were also taking in the sun of the Chisos Mountains won't surprise you, then.

[DaRev]

^_^ I guess the fact that lots of Yankees and Canucks were also taking in the sun of the Chisos Mountains won't surprise you, then.

*puts hands over ears and yells*
LALALALALALALALALALALALAAA!

[BreadAlone]

Well..goodbye everyone!! :wave:

I'll be gone till late Palm Sunday at a regional bandfest outside of Detroit, MI.

I may have internet access..but I'm gonna go ahead and assume not. If I do, TCL probably won't be the first place I go..:sorry: (But you never know..)

I'm nervous about all the papers and tests I have due/to take during Holy Week, as that's also the last week of the Quarter before Spring/Easter break..:sigh:

Well..see you guys soon!! :)

[DaRev]

Well..goodbye everyone!! :wave:

I'll be gone till late Palm Sunday at a regional bandfest outside of Detroit, MI.

I may have internet access..but I'm gonna go ahead and assume not. If I do, TCL probably won't be the first place I go..:sorry: (But you never know..)

I'm nervous about all the papers and tests I have due/to take during Holy Week, as that's also the last week of the Quarter before Spring/Easter break..:sigh:

Well..see you guys soon!! :)

Blessings to you! Have fun! :crossrc:

[porterross]

Be careful, BA. Tests during Holy Week? Sacrilege!!!!

Your Spring Break is late, but I guess that makes sense given the different climate. Behave! ;)

[seajoy]

I have a sunburn. :sorry:
Bragger!

[seajoy]

Well..goodbye everyone!! :wave:

I'll be gone till late Palm Sunday at a regional bandfest outside of Detroit, MI.

I'm nervous about all the papers and tests I have due/to take during Holy Week, as that's also the last week of the Quarter before Spring/Easter break..:sigh:

Well..see you guys soon!! :)
:prayer: for your tests and travels.

[BreadAlone]

Thanks and :hug: s to all you guys! :wave:

[BreadAlone]

Be careful, BA. Tests during Holy Week? Sacrilege!!!!

Your Spring Break is late, but I guess that makes sense given the different climate. Behave! ;)
LOL tell that to my LUTHERAN high school..

[porterross]

Bragger!

Well, I have experienced some intense pain from all the outdoor activities as well, so that should help your envy. ^_^



LOL tell that to my LUTHERAN high school..


They must want to really understand suffering. :P

[RadMan]

DaRev you might want to keep your hands over you ears still.

We had in the 70's all day today with sunshine in "MissourA".

[seajoy]

We had in the 70's all day today with sunshine in "MissourA".
Not so sure I even like you anymore. :sigh:

[seajoy]

I'll be leaving for 4 days, starting friday morning. It's my grandma's 90th birthday this weekend. Hubby is gone working, so I'll be making the 7 hour trip alone. None of my family is Lutheran anymore, except my grandma, who is ELS. She likes me a lot, little WELS gal that I am. :)

Anyway, I'll miss you guys. I'm not heading to warmer temps.....so no reason to be jealous there. :pink:

[cerette]

Yeah, let's see, did you say you were from somewhere in the northern part of the world? We've had waaaay more winter than we are used to- even for Iowa! ;) In fact- I wouldn't mind a brown Christmas this year!
Winter is great: No bugs, definitely no ticks, no sweating, no headache from the heat and so on.

But summer is great too. I just don't like any of the things I mentioned above. I do, however, like BBQ and other summery things. :)

I guess all 4 seasons have their charm, and I am blessed to always have lived in places where we had all four of them.

[LilLamb219]

I love having 4 seasons as well. It's when one season seems longer than the others that I get impatient ;)

Winter is great: No bugs, definitely no ticks, no sweating, no headache from the heat and so on.

But summer is great too. I just don't like any of the things I mentioned above. I do, however, like BBQ and other summery things. :)

I guess all 4 seasons have their charm, and I am blessed to always have lived in places where we had all four of them.

[ctay]

I just want to skip one season, although I shouldn't complain cause we don't get the snow like some do

[LutheranChick]

Well..goodbye everyone!! :wave:

I'll be gone till late Palm Sunday at a regional bandfest outside of Detroit, MI.

I may have internet access..but I'm gonna go ahead and assume not. If I do, TCL probably won't be the first place I go..:sorry: (But you never know..)

I'm nervous about all the papers and tests I have due/to take during Holy Week, as that's also the last week of the Quarter before Spring/Easter break..:sigh:

Well..see you guys soon!! :)
Have a good time, and good luck on your tests!

[LutheranChick]

I'll be leaving for 4 days, starting friday morning. It's my grandma's 90th birthday this weekend. Hubby is gone working, so I'll be making the 7 hour trip alone. None of my family is Lutheran anymore, except my grandma, who is ELS. She likes me a lot, little WELS gal that I am. :)

Anyway, I'll miss you guys. I'm not heading to warmer temps.....so no reason to be jealous there. :pink:
:hug: Have a very safe trip. No fun driving 7 hours by yourself. Tell your grandma Happy Birthday from a fellow ELS'er! :)

[WildStrawberry]

I feel a little strange asking this...but...Oscar is one of God's creatures too so...(and I'm going to ask that there be no inappropriate...or even if you think it might be appropriate...dead cat jokes or I hate cats comments. Please.)

My boy cat, Oscar is getting ready to turn 13 a couple of days after Easter. Late last week I noticed that he just wasn't himself. Knowing that he's getting older, I took him to the vet for a check up. Vet said there's something wrong but his symptoms are so slight (and he's so cranky) that they'd need blood tests to make sure. The three contenders for older cats are Thyroid disease (treatable and curable) Diabetes (treatable) and Kidney disease (neither treatable nor curable but palative care can be done to help extend life and keep him comfortable)

Vet just called with the test results of his blood work. He has chronic kidney disease which means it's been going on for a while and he could either continue like this for years OR he could go downhill VERY fast no matter what we do for him.

This is my baby. I've had him since before he was born. (his mommy cat lives at my parent's place) I watched him be born, I've done everything in my power to keep him healthy and happy (and rather spoiled.)

So...if you could please...pray that God gives him more years to be with his human Mommy? I can't take losing him right now.

Thanks everyone,

Kae

[ctay]

I feel a little strange asking this...but...Oscar is one of God's creatures too so...(and I'm going to ask that there be no inappropriate...or even if you think it might be appropriate...dead cat jokes or I hate cats comments. Please.)

My boy cat, Oscar is getting ready to turn 13 a couple of days after Easter. Late last week I noticed that he just wasn't himself. Knowing that he's getting older, I took him to the vet for a check up. Vet said there's something wrong but his symptoms are so slight (and he's so cranky) that they'd need blood tests to make sure. The three contenders for older cats are Thyroid disease (treatable and curable) Diabetes (treatable) and Kidney disease (neither treatable nor curable but palative care can be done to help extend life and keep him comfortable)

Vet just called with the test results of his blood work. He has chronic kidney disease which means it's been going on for a while and he could either continue like this for years OR he could go downhill VERY fast no matter what we do for him.

This is my baby. I've had him since before he was born. (his mommy cat lives at my parent's place) I watched him be born, I've done everything in my power to keep him healthy and happy (and rather spoiled.)

So...if you could please...pray that God gives him more years to be with his human Mommy? I can't take losing him right now.

Thanks everyone,

Kae

Kae I know how you feel, we've lost a couple of dogs and a couple of horses and its rough. Praying for you and your cat!!! God bless you

[WildStrawberry]

Kae I know how you feel, we've lost a couple of dogs and a couple of horses and its rough. Praying for you and your cat!!! God bless you

Thank you Ctay. We just lost his "sister" last February. I know he's older and really, it's a matter of time...but...:(

Thanks!

Kae

[LilLamb219]

So...if you could please...pray that God gives him more years to be with his human Mommy? I can't take losing him right now.

Thanks everyone,

Kae

:( Poor Oscar. Prayers of course!! Our pets are a great part of our family as well and it hurts knowing that they won't be with us forever...or even as long as a human family member might be.

[LutheranChick]

I feel a little strange asking this...but...Oscar is one of God's creatures too so...(and I'm going to ask that there be no inappropriate...or even if you think it might be appropriate...dead cat jokes or I hate cats comments. Please.)

My boy cat, Oscar is getting ready to turn 13 a couple of days after Easter. Late last week I noticed that he just wasn't himself. Knowing that he's getting older, I took him to the vet for a check up. Vet said there's something wrong but his symptoms are so slight (and he's so cranky) that they'd need blood tests to make sure. The three contenders for older cats are Thyroid disease (treatable and curable) Diabetes (treatable) and Kidney disease (neither treatable nor curable but palative care can be done to help extend life and keep him comfortable)

Vet just called with the test results of his blood work. He has chronic kidney disease which means it's been going on for a while and he could either continue like this for years OR he could go downhill VERY fast no matter what we do for him.

This is my baby. I've had him since before he was born. (his mommy cat lives at my parent's place) I watched him be born, I've done everything in my power to keep him healthy and happy (and rather spoiled.)

So...if you could please...pray that God gives him more years to be with his human Mommy? I can't take losing him right now.

Thanks everyone,

Kae
Prayers for Oscar! We have a kitty too...

[KimLCMS]

Hey guys, just checking in. Prayers for you all, Kae.

[Jim47]

I think God knew exactly what He was doing when he blessed us with pets. I lost my dog Sheba 2 years ago and I still miss her, even though now thanks to my daughter I have a new black lab about 2 years old.

I don't even know if cats would drink cranberry juice but I think its good for kidneys? Might help.

[WildStrawberry]

Thanks all!

I'll have to ask the Vet tomorrow, Jim. We're taking Oscar in so I can learn to give the subcutaneous injections. That is a pretty good idea. I'll really have to remember to ask her.

Thanks!

Kae

[seajoy]

Kae,
I hope the vet can do something for Oscar. :hug:

Well, I'm almost packed. I should be able to leave in about an hour. I'll see you all on monday night. :wave:

May the Lord bless and keep us until we meet again. :groupray:

seajoy :)

[ctay]

Bye seajoy have a safe trip!! God bless you

[WildStrawberry]

Have a great trip, Seajoy! Thanks for the Oscar wishes!

I'm going tonight for the "giving an injection" lesson. The fiancé isn't too keen on it. He said he might faint. *sigh* it'll be okay though.

How is everyone else doing?

Kae

[porterross]

He won't faint. Subcutaneous injections aren't difficult once you get used to giving them and there is little blood loss if any. We used to always buy our pet vaccine kits at the co-op to save money and cats don't squeal like dogs do. The biggest issue is sticking yourself. :P

[WildStrawberry]

He won't faint. Subcutaneous injections aren't difficult once you get used to giving them and there is little blood loss if any. We used to always buy our pet vaccine kits at the co-op to save money and cats don't squeal like dogs do. The biggest issue is sticking yourself. :P

Yeah, I don't think I'm going to have much trouble. I had to give myself injections for a bit for my Factor V Leiden.

Mike is another case though. *G* He used to be a phlebotomist so he's used to sticking people. However, when I was in the ER for something or another (don't really remember) I was sitting there joking with the student nurse who was digging around in my hand for my (rather prominent) vein. Mike went down like a sack o' bricks. LOL

He said it wasn't the fact that I was getting stuck. It was the fact that *I* was getting stuck. If you catch what I'm saying.

Oscar is a grumpy old man for the most part. He'll be all grumpy with me and I may have to towel him but, I think we'll get through this.

Thanks Porter!

Kae

[WildStrawberry]

I'm back from the Vet's. Mike didn't faint but he did turn a very interesting shade of gray and then had to leave the room.

Oscar did VERY well. He's totally unimpressed with me though. I think I did pretty well...thanks to Porter's assurance that the cat wouldn't squeal. *G* Thanks again!

Jim, I asked about the cranberries and the vet tech said that it was an interesting idea and that there are supplements that he can (and most likely will be) take but that usually cranberries are reserved for bladder infections. But she said it was a good question. So thanks!

Thanks to everyone for your prayers for him and for me. I totally appreciate all the well wishes.

Love ya all!

Kae

[porterross]

Yay!!! Good news, Kae. I knew you could do it. ;)

I would think some cranberry juice in his water couldn't hurt and what about yogurt? Our cat loves yogurt, so it might be good for his system as it is ours.

[QuiltAngel]

Well, I have returned from wandering around the world. Enjoyed the summer time temps and returned to where there is still snow on the ground, although much less. Yep, even got a little sunburned although that will fade fast.

Now to convince myself that I am in the CDT time zone and am not in the China time zone or whatever they call it, I will be good. Seeing the niece in Taiwan was great. She serves as an LCMS missionary teaching English and Religion there.

Looks like there have been good times here on the forum. I think I have gotten caught up here.

I learned how to brew green tea while there and brought some back with me. Got good at eating with chopsticks, the first meal served on the plane, I was looking for my sticks, oops now is the time for forks!

Well, it is time for me to try to get back to bed. See you all later.

[ctay]

Well, I have returned from wandering around the world. Enjoyed the summer time temps and returned to where there is still snow on the ground, although much less. Yep, even got a little sunburned although that will fade fast.

Now to convince myself that I am in the CDT time zone and am not in the China time zone or whatever they call it, I will be good. Seeing the niece in Taiwan was great. She serves as an LCMS missionary teaching English and Religion there.

Looks like there have been good times here on the forum. I think I have gotten caught up here.

I learned how to brew green tea while there and brought some back with me. Got good at eating with chopsticks, the first meal served on the plane, I was looking for my sticks, oops now is the time for forks!

Well, it is time for me to try to get back to bed. See you all later.


I'm glad you had a good trip!!! GOod to see you back

[DaRev]

Do you have pictures to share?

[LilLamb219]

It sounds like a fun time! I LOVE eating with chop sticks!! :clap:

Well, I have returned from wandering around the world. Enjoyed the summer time temps and returned to where there is still snow on the ground, although much less. Yep, even got a little sunburned although that will fade fast.

Now to convince myself that I am in the CDT time zone and am not in the China time zone or whatever they call it, I will be good. Seeing the niece in Taiwan was great. She serves as an LCMS missionary teaching English and Religion there.

Looks like there have been good times here on the forum. I think I have gotten caught up here.

I learned how to brew green tea while there and brought some back with me. Got good at eating with chopsticks, the first meal served on the plane, I was looking for my sticks, oops now is the time for forks!

Well, it is time for me to try to get back to bed. See you all later.

[LilLamb219]

How is Oscar doing today?


Yeah, I don't think I'm going to have much trouble. I had to give myself injections for a bit for my Factor V Leiden.

Mike is another case though. *G* He used to be a phlebotomist so he's used to sticking people. However, when I was in the ER for something or another (don't really remember) I was sitting there joking with the student nurse who was digging around in my hand for my (rather prominent) vein. Mike went down like a sack o' bricks. LOL

He said it wasn't the fact that I was getting stuck. It was the fact that *I* was getting stuck. If you catch what I'm saying.

Oscar is a grumpy old man for the most part. He'll be all grumpy with me and I may have to towel him but, I think we'll get through this.

Thanks Porter!

Kae

[ctay]

We had some rough weather come through this morning and last night, Atlanta got hit by a tornado too

[porterross]

Welcome back, QA! You'll have to tell us all about your travels when you catch up on sleep.

[QuiltAngel]

Do you have pictures to share?
How many of the 350 or so do you want to see?

Started the week out in Taipei seeing the Chiang Kai Shek Memorial which some interesting things are going on there. Also saw Taipei 101, the tallest building.

Off to Chaiyi where Concordia Academy is and where the niece teaches. Visited her classes. Did some sight seeing, had lots of interesting and wonderful food with lots of wonderful people.

Attended Bible Study that is outreach and many people attend. Worship in Mandarin was fun (bulletin in Mandarin for the bulletin topic, which I could not read at all), Team Taiwan Bible Study, lots of fellowship.

Purchased lots of fabric to fuel my fabric/quilting addiction. At $3 a yard, well had to purchase lots.

Now, it it wasn't so long in an airplane, it would have been perfect. A total of 19 hours in coach is a long time. How many times does one have to go through security in a day? Well, it was 4 for us on Thursday.

When I get photos all loaded on the computer and sorted, I will post some, somewhere and let you know.

[QuiltAngel]

A tornado? In Atlanta? Yikes!

[WildStrawberry]

Yay!!! Good news, Kae. I knew you could do it. ;)

I would think some cranberry juice in his water couldn't hurt and what about yogurt? Our cat loves yogurt, so it might be good for his system as it is ours.

The Vet's going to call with the list of "extras" he can have. I tried the cranberry juice last night and he was rather unhappy that it was anywhere near him. *G* He's a picky boy. Yogurt used to be his special treat back when he was a kitten. I guess he got tired of it and wouldn't eat it so I haven't tried it again. I'll have to try that. Thanks!

How is Oscar doing today?

He's acting like a kitten. *G* Exploring the house as if we'd moved or something. Playing with the twins which is making them VERY happy. He really has perked right up. He's chewing on my toes right now. Goofy cat. :)


QuiltAngel! Man it sounds like an awesome time! (jealous :D) I can't wait to see pictures. Glad you're home!


Kae

[QuiltAngel]

Kae,
sorry to hear the cat is sick. I hope you find something that he likes and that works for him.

[WildStrawberry]

Thanks QA!

He ate most of his new food...*I* sure as heck wouldn't have eaten it. It looks like liver paste and smells icky. BUT he munched on it until he realized that the other cats had the GOOD stuff. Poor kitten. He wanted their food badly so I had to scoop him up and put him in the bathroom to eat. He got most of it down...he gets a quarter of a can every day...and I gave him a treat of a splash of skim milk. He loved that.

Blessed Palm Sunday everyone!

HOSANNA!
HOSANNA!
HOSANNA TO THE KING OF KINGS!!

Kae


ETA: If you look at my little camera icon you'll see a picture of my Oscar Monster. *G* Isn't he the cutest boy ever? I should add pictures of all the "kids" for you guys to see.

[BreadAlone]

YAY for Oscar eating most of his food! Our cat is having issues also..the vet said she has bladder infection and we have to give her antibiotics and behavioral pills as we figure her not using her litterbox is a combination of both of those problems. She's in a cage and I can actually here her sadly meowing right now..I certainly hope we can let her out soon..:(

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On a brighter note..is it ever GOOOOOOOOD to be back in Milwaukee!! :D I'm SOOO glad band fest is over..nothing against Michigan, but their water fountains and pop were starting to get to me, and then there was the different time zone..plus I missed Palm Sunday at my home church..

So on the seven hour bus trip a few hours ago, we drove through Chicago in the dark. EVERYTHING is totally green (even the river I heard; no joke, they have lights in it or something.) because of St. Patrick's day. It's cool seeing the skyline in the dark.

Our band played really well. I ordered a professional recording on CD of the concert, so when it comes sometimes next month I'll upload it so ya'll can hear.

Anyways..good to be back on CF..these four days away were really dragging..

[ctay]

WElcome back breadalone.

I have my grandchildren here, they went to church with me, they had a potluck dinner and an easter egg hunt afterwards, when the 2 yr old would pick up an egg, if there wasn't anything in it, which most of them didn't, she'd throw the egg back on the ground. Had this retired pastor of this church ask me if the other church made a call yet, I said I have no idea. He goes I guess you've been here as much as you've been there. Another incident happened at that other church too.

[synger]

Our church is holding a Seder meal on Tuesday, to explain the significance of Passover to the Jews, and lead into Maundy Thursday. I'm thinking of having Gem read that story in her Bible (she's so proud of her all-pink "big girl Bible" that she won't even open the children's Bible story books anymore). Then, we'll watch the plagues in The Ten Commandments as a visual reinforcement. The boy in the movie speaks the traditional Seder question "Why is this night different from all other nights?" usually asked by the youngest person at the meal, and starting the explanation of God's mercy and judgement.

[Zecryphon]

Thanks QA!

He ate most of his new food...*I* sure as heck wouldn't have eaten it. It looks like liver paste and smells icky. BUT he munched on it until he realized that the other cats had the GOOD stuff. Poor kitten. He wanted their food badly so I had to scoop him up and put him in the bathroom to eat. He got most of it down...he gets a quarter of a can every day...and I gave him a treat of a splash of skim milk. He loved that.

Blessed Palm Sunday everyone!

HOSANNA!
HOSANNA!
HOSANNA TO THE KING OF KINGS!!

Kae


ETA: If you look at my little camera icon you'll see a picture of my Oscar Monster. *G* Isn't he the cutest boy ever? I should add pictures of all the "kids" for you guys to see.
You should submit his photo to the following website: www.cuteoverload.com (http://www.cuteoverload.com)

[WildStrawberry]

Aww, thanks Zec! I LOVE that site. I may do that.

BA, I hope your kitty gets over the bladder infection soon. If he/she still has potty troubles, try some Feilaway (http://www.1800petmeds.com/Comfort+Zone+For+Cats-prod10776.html). It's expensive but GOLLY does it work!

Oscar's still acting kittenish. He's going to be MAD at me tomorrow when I give the fluids again. But at least he gets over it quickly. *G*

Kae

[BreadAlone]

Aww, thanks Zec! I LOVE that site. I may do that.

BA, I hope your kitty gets over the bladder infection soon. If he/she still has potty troubles, try some Feilaway (http://www.1800petmeds.com/Comfort+Zone+For+Cats-prod10776.html). It's expensive but GOLLY does it work!

Oscar's still acting kittenish. He's going to be MAD at me tomorrow when I give the fluids again. But at least he gets over it quickly. *G*

Kae
Hmm..thanks for that. Sounds interesting; she's supposed to be taking pills for the purposes basically described in that product, but we can't get her to take two pills (antibiotics and the behavioral meds) without her throwing up..so that spray stuff might be usefull..

[WildStrawberry]

It really is a wonder. I use the diffuser with my cats and my Aggie, who is aggressive, really has calmed down.

Kae

[BreadAlone]

I think I may have posted this before, but here goes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBxEPh7vj2U

I was looking for a version of that song to post here to show you guys, as we're using it as the theme for our mid-week Lenten services, and I thought it was cool and I wanted you to hear it.

So anyways, I find this version of the song on youtube, and thought it was just amazing. So I showed it to my dad, thinking it would be cool to show in church. He showed it to Pastor, and next thing you know they had plans to play it in church on Palm Sunday.

So they did play it, but neeless to say I wasn't there as I was at band fest. But my family said people were in tears. One elderly man told me today he choked up on account of it, and I was talking to Pastor today and he said that he was speechless at the end and pretty much just walked down the aisle out of church at the end. I really wish I could've been there..

So anyways, here it is for your guys' benefit! :)

[seajoy]

Hi QA! It's always good to see you here. :hug:

[QuiltAngel]

Hi QA! It's always good to see you here. :hug:
Thanks seajoy and welcome back. How was your weekend?

Kae, I wonder if this product would work on a cat who likes to chew through cords. My daughter's roommate has a cat who likes to do that. It is going to get pretty expensive as he has chewed through 2 already.

[filosofer]

Kae, I wonder if this product would work on a cat who likes to chew through cords. My daughter's roommate has a cat who likes to do that. It is going to get pretty expensive as he has chewed through 2 already.

My father had a solution for that... well, probably not the one the roomie would want. :D

[QuiltAngel]

Her roomie is away on Spring Break. She already emailed her and told her the cat is in big trouble and not allowed out of the closet. It's a big walk in type one.

My kid likes cats, just not this one.

[WildStrawberry]

Thanks seajoy and welcome back. How was your weekend?

Kae, I wonder if this product would work on a cat who likes to chew through cords. My daughter's roommate has a cat who likes to do that. It is going to get pretty expensive as he has chewed through 2 already.

It depends on the reason why the cat is chewing on the cords. They could try it. I'd recommend Apple Bitters for this problem though. Should be sold in pet stores and shouldn't be as expensive as the Feliaway.

Kae

[Studeclunker]

BreadAlone, I'm wondering of which piece of music you're speaking. Your picture is a blank square with a multi-coloured square in the left corner. My youngest was in Band too. He really loved it.

As to the cat chewing cords, if the habit isn't broken, you may no longer have a house.:eek: More than one pet has burnt down a home that way. Personally, I wouldn't put up with it. My home is more important than a cat, bird, or whatever. If Apple Bitters doesn't work... Thankfully that's not my choice to make.

I've run into this problem with cats. Twice we delt with it successfully. Both quickly became barn cats. Both loved it. One of these queens decided she wanted to chew the wiring in the barn though. I caught her and thankfully had a large cage that could serve as a cattery. We kept her in it when she couldn't be watched. Thankfully she grew out of the habit over time.

[DaRev]

Well, if the cat likes chewing through cords, and one day you catch a whiff of roast chicken and burnt hair, rest assured that the cat will never chew through another cord again.

[LilLamb219]

My mom used to put Vaseline on the things she didn't want her cats to chew or claw...it works. They don't like the feel of the yucky stuff!

[MarkRohfrietsch]

My father had a solution for that... well, probably not the one the roomie would want. :D


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Actually I'v heard that Hotsauce, pepper spray or mothballs work.

Out at the farm I still use..
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[seajoy]

What's all those crazy words, Mark? :scratch: :)

Anyway, I just wanted to say JOYOUS EASTER to everyone here. :amen: What a special time of year for all of us who are in Christ.

Bye :wave: for a few days. Going to our daughter's. What's everyone else up to for your Easter celebration?

[LilLamb219]

Tomorrow is Da Rev's Birthday!!! Time for yet another party around here!! :D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2105/1680465417_47f0c1e963.jpg
Look! I even found one with your name on it! LOL

[LilLamb219]

Happy Easter, Seajoy! Have a great time :)

We're doing a nice breakfast because my husband is going out of town (Texas!) for training. Then my daughter and I will go to my mom's to eat dinner later.

[porterross]

Tomorrow is Da Rev's Birthday!!! Time for yet another party around here!! :D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2105/1680465417_47f0c1e963.jpg
Look! I even found one with your name on it! LOL


Complete with an overabundance of junk food. ^_^

[LilLamb219]

Complete with an overabundance of junk food. ^_^

It's just not a party without all the junk food! :cool:

[DaRev]

It's just not a party without all the junk food! :cool:

One problem, though...

NO BEER!!!! :eek: :cry: :cry:
Sacrilige!!


There is a birthday cake generator online.
http://www.imagechef.com/ic/make.jsp?tid=Cake+With+Number

[porterross]

How about this cake? ;)

http://www.thelmagazine.com/lmag_blog/files/Images/Beer_Mug_Cake.jpg

[DaRev]

:thumbsup:

[LilLamb219]

One problem, though...

NO BEER!!!! :eek: :cry: :cry:
Sacrilige!!


There is a birthday cake generator online.
http://www.imagechef.com/ic/make.jsp?tid=Cake+With+Number


:doh:

[seajoy]

We weren't able to go to our daughter's today. It's a darn blizzard up here again. :doh: I think I shall go mad soon! :tutu: We should be able to go to her home tomorrow, though.

Guess I'll stay here today for Rev's early birthday bash. :)

[porterross]

Did someone say, "Party"?

http://www.ratebeer.com/beerimages/887.jpg

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:df_UW0dCxowhaM:http://www.junkfoodblog.com/uploaded_images/ben-jerrys-black-and-tan-ice-cream-735538.jpg

[DaRev]

Did someone say, "Party"?

http://www.ratebeer.com/beerimages/887.jpg

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:df_UW0dCxowhaM:http://www.junkfoodblog.com/uploaded_images/ben-jerrys-black-and-tan-ice-cream-735538.jpg

^_^
You know me too well, Sweetykins!
^_^ ^_^

[KimLCMS]

Beer and ice cream? That sound like a night of vomiting in the making.
I'd rather have coffee with ice cream cause I get cold!

[porterross]

Beer and ice cream? That sound like a night of vomiting in the making.
I'd rather have coffee with ice cream cause I get cold!


There would be a proper meal and cake in between, Kim. ^_^

[jenley]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q228/TommyKronik/beer.jpg

[Renatus]

There a two of my favorite beers
http://www.azbukavkusa.ru/i/photo/bg/beer/paulaner-hefe-weizen_bg.jpg http://www.ossiladen.de/shopping/images/product_images/info_images/7547_0.jpg

Choose one or take both. :D

[Till]

Happy birthday DaRev!


Greetings with pictues of the Benedictine Monastery on the Mons Sanctus Bavariae (Holy Mountain of Bavaria )

http://www.andechs.de/imperia/md/images/klosterandechs/kirche/Gesamtansichtt


And of the blessed outcome of putting "ora et labora" into practice:

http://www.andechs.de/englisch/brauerei/biersorten/images/Andechser_Hell.jpg http://www.andechs.de/englisch/brauerei/biersorten/images/Andechser_Spezial_Hell.jpg http://www.andechs.de/englisch/brauerei/biersorten/images/Andechser_Dunkel.jpg



For more info and to arrange tours of the brewery, eh I mean pilgrimages to the monastery see http://www.andechs.de/index.asp?lng=en

[DaRev]

Thanks, Till!

[latebloomer]

Me neither. Belated Happy Birthday, Rev.

[DaRev]

We'll allow you to kick off the cassock, relax and enjoy a cold one. You've earned some time off after this past week. ;)

Yeah... you just want me to kick off the cassock. ;)

[QuiltAngel]

Birthday blessings a day late DaRev! For some reason, I could not get on here yesterday. Sounds like you had a good party here.

[porterross]

Yeah... you just want me to kick off the cassock. ;)


:eek: :o :swoon:

No. I didn't think you could wear shoes for this long. ^_^

[RadMan]

Yea--Happy Birthday Rev. I keep getting kicked out (automatically logged off) and have to log in every time I try looking in the forums. Ugh!

[seajoy]

How is it people can get their posts to show up in the right order but mine don't? :scratch:
Old age? :scratch: :)

[BreadAlone]

Well, I hope your birthday was pretty good DaRev, what with not being able to come onto CF yesterday..(appearently the server was down or something..there are bugs with the time stamps on posts now and junk..)

Hopefully you got time to prepare your Easter sermons? ;)

[DaRev]

Birthday blessings a day late DaRev! For some reason, I could not get on here yesterday. Sounds like you had a good party here.

I missed the party, though, 'cause I couldn't get on here either. :P

[latebloomer]

Me neither. Belated Happy Birthday, Rev.

[DaRev]

Thanks

[DaRev]

:eek: :o :swoon:

No. I didn't think you could wear shoes for this long. ^_^

I'm not wearing any. :P

[porterross]

We'll allow you to kick off the cassock, relax and enjoy a cold one. You've earned some time off after this past week. ;)

[WildStrawberry]

We'll allow you to kick off the cassock, relax and enjoy a cold one. You've earned some time off after this past week. ;)

Amen and Amen!

A great big THANK YOU to all of our Pastors on here. Thank you for all the wonderful sermons and services during this past season of Lent. Thank you for preaching the Word faithfully and for showing our Lord's Resurrection promises every Sunday without fail.

Praying for you all!

Kae

[seajoy]

I'm tuckered. Good weekend, but tiring. :) :yawn:

[DaRev]

How is it people can get their posts to show up in the right order but mine don't? :scratch:

[porterross]

How is it people can get their posts to show up in the right order but mine don't? :scratch:
You're special!

[Studeclunker]

Hi everybody!:wave: Took a friend to Easter services yesterday. She was facinated by the whole thing and really loved the Pastor's message. Poor fellow looked exhausted and delivered his message rather dispiritedly. The sermon itself was excellent. I took another friend along as well, but he wanted to attend the local happy-clappy with his brother. Pity that, he would have gotten a lot out of the Pastor's message (Jesus saying, "Go to this place, I will go ahead of you..."). I was kind of disturbed by the lack of... for lack of a better word, soleminity, during communion. It seemed just a bit disrespectful. People were chatting and laughing in line and would just pop and down then toss the cup (they were disposable). It just... bothered me. First time I'd taken communion in several years.

[MarkRohfrietsch]

I was kind of disturbed by the lack of... for lack of a better word, soleminity, during communion. It seemed just a bit disrespectful. People were chatting and laughing in line and would just pop and down then toss the cup (they were disposable). It just... bothered me. First time I'd taken communion in several years.

My congregation would have had a fit.

[DaRev]

You're special!

Yeah, right.

[seajoy]

It seemed just a bit disrespectful. People were chatting and laughing in line and would just pop and down then toss the cup (they were disposable). It just... bothered me. First time I'd taken communion in several years.
Wow...never seen that happen in church. :eek:
I'm glad you were able to take Communion though, Stude. Christ's Presence was there for you....try to remember that when you think of your time there. Satan would love for you to focus on the other stuff and forget the joy you had in going to the Lord's Table.

[ctay]

The service I went to yesterday was wonderful and moving, the sermon was good, the choir did some good selections one with drums, a french horn, trombone and trumpet with organ and piano.

[seajoy]

My pain is very bad today. Nothing is working. :(

[seajoy]

Must be going around. Stupid weather changes.

*gentle hugs*

Maybe a soft bed, warm blankies and a dark room??? With lots of prayer added in.

Kae
Thanks Kae,

I just got out of the sauna where I took my bible with me. Prayers went up as well. Are you in pain too today? I prayed for you also.

So far I'm still hurting very much, but the comfort of talking with Jesus has lessened the burden. It's hard to explain to folks what it's like to hurt every day. I went over to the "chronic pain" forum, but I always feel more comfortable talking with my Lutheran friends over here, so I didn't post over there. I suppose it gets old for you all to listen to me, but I consider you dear friends. :hug:

[KimLCMS]

Hey ladies! Hope you're both feeling better ASAP! I'll be praying for you.

[seajoy]

Thanks Stude.....I prayed for you yesterday too. :)

[WildStrawberry]

My pain is very bad today. Nothing is working. :(

Must be going around. Stupid weather changes.

*gentle hugs*

Maybe a soft bed, warm blankies and a dark room??? With lots of prayer added in.

Kae

[Studeclunker]

I suppose it gets old for you all to listen to me, but I consider you dear friends. :hug:

Well, Luv, that's what friends are for. Don't talk nonsense, we're here to help and support one another. That's what the great apostle was talking about when he said we should care for our brothers and sisters in Christ. Besides, if you didn't tell us, what would we have to pray for?;) :groupray:

Hang in there, Sis, things will get better.:hug:

[ctay]

Its been kind of damp and threat of rain yesterday and today and my feet have been hurting, must be getting arthiritis in them both.

Got a picture of those 3 puppies, they are 7 weeks old now.

http://home.centurytel.net/flintcreekfarm/chippup10.jpg

[DaRev]

Baby dawgs!

[porterross]

Its been kind of damp and threat of rain yesterday and today and my feet have been hurting, must be getting arthiritis in them both.

Got a picture of those 3 puppies, they are 7 weeks old now.

http://home.centurytel.net/flintcreekfarm/chippup10.jpg
Chocolate, sugar and cinnamon!

[DaRev]

Chocolate, sugar and cinnamon!

You're fasting, remember? :P

[porterross]

You're fasting, remember? :P


See how discplined I am! I've been watching the Food Network all day, too. :sorry:

[DaRev]

See how discplined I am! I've been watching the Food Network all day, too. :sorry:

Yeah, but you still have chocolate, sugar, and cinnamon on your mind. :P

[porterross]

Yeah, but you still have chocolate, sugar, and cinnamon on your mind. :P
Til the instant I die!

[DaRev]

Til the instant I die!

^_^

[Renatus]

Its been kind of damp and threat of rain yesterday and today and my feet have been hurting, must be getting arthiritis in them both.

Got a picture of those 3 puppies, they are 7 weeks old now.

http://home.centurytel.net/flintcreekfarm/chippup10.jpg
Cute :)
Our Neighbor has some too, but they are Bernadiner.
But they love to .... (I only know a bad word for this in English) in our beautiful flower bed. :|

[seajoy]

Cute puppies, ctay. :)

Just saying goodbye for a time. I'm going with hubby for his job. No internet in the cabin. See you in about 10 days. :wave:

God's blessings,
seajoy :hug:

[ctay]

God bless you Seajoy, enjoy your trip.

[ctay]

Happy birthday Porterross if I don't remember to tell you tomorrow

[DaRev]

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w254/jweatherell/44birthday.jpg

[ctay]

:blush:

[LilLamb219]

Cute puppies, ctay. :)

Just saying goodbye for a time. I'm going with hubby for his job. No internet in the cabin. See you in about 10 days. :wave:

God's blessings,
seajoy :hug:

Have a nice break from the boards!!! I think I need one :) LOL

Is this the same cabin as before I wonder?

[Studeclunker]

Here's some quotes from Reclaim News that I got a laugh out of (emphasis mine)::D


The Rev. Gerald Kieschnick, the synod's current president, has pushed church
marketing over the Lutherans' historic confession of faith by repeatedly
telling the laity, "This is not your grandfather' s church."

Mr. Kruta explained that Missouri
Synod members should have drawn the line sooner about how much deviation
they would tolerate in the church. "Seriously, this has been like waking up
in the hospital after surgery only to find that the wrong limb has been
amputated and no one will admit who the surgeon was," he said.

As synod bureaucrats support congregations that hide their Lutheran identity
while terminating the strong witness of "Issues, Etc.," [B]members of the
denomination are asking if they can have their grandfather' s church back...

[RadMan]

Here's some quotes from Reclaim News that I got a laugh out of (emphasis [bolding] mine)::D Too much, too little, too late. As I said in another forum Lutherans are very forgiving and in a year everything will be forgotten. Big K will be elected (inaugerated--like a monarchy) again because he knows how to say (evade) all the right things

[WildStrawberry]

You know, a while back I received an oversized post card in the mail from one of the "we serve coffee and donuts during the sermon...it's SOCIAL HOUR!" churches around here.

The first thing it said was:

"THIS IS NOT YOUR GRANDMA'S CHURCH"

And boy was I offended. I even called up and left a message for them to PLEASE take me off their mailing list because I was highly offended that they'd think MY church, my lovely, God fearing, Gospel preaching, Lord Honoring church could be...*gasp* boring. How can you be bored when you're praising God? Isn't it about Him instead of about us?

I never received an answer back. I still get their mailings as well.

So to have the President of the LCMS come out and say "this is not your Grandfather's church" ... well that just makes my blood boil and makes blood want to shoot out of my eyes.

Hmmm...speaking of that...I wonder if we could get Glenn Beck to do a segment on his show...that would raise some eyebrows I'm sure.

*G*

Kae

[DaRev]

Hmmm...speaking of that...I wonder if we could get Glenn Beck to do a segment on his show...that would raise some eyebrows I'm sure.

Perhaps someone should put the bug in his ear, like pointing him to the WSJ article.

[WildStrawberry]

Done.

Anyone else wanna contact him about the same thing? me@glennbeck.com is his email address.

Perhaps some of our