Lutheran Forum Official Name

[JVAC]

We get to choose an official name for the Forum (Refference Erwin's Post). I'll post the suggestions I remember from a while ago:

Marty Party
Table Talk
League of Liberated Lutherans
(ok it was a short list, I don't have a good memory)

Post all your suggestions, we'll give it a week time limit then have a few days of discussion with an official vote later!

-James

[Phoebe]

Table Talk

[JVAC]

Might I suggest something like:

Teenage Mutant Ninja Trinitarians
Mighty Morphin Power Lutherans
L-Men
Fantastic Four (plus 66 million)
Speed Reformationist
Tron
Super awesomely spectacular people with hammers...

Okay, so I got a little bored with this dumb biography.

-James

[theologia crucis]

NOT "Marty Party"!

Table Talk is good.

Or from last time: "Through Faith Alone" or something like that there...

theologia crucis looks around and tries to get used to all the new stuff...

[GlowingFirefly]

Might I suggest something like:

Teenage Mutant Ninja Trinitarians
Mighty Morphin Power Lutherans
L-Men
Fantastic Four (plus 66 million)
Speed Reformationist
Tron
Super awesomely spectacular people with hammers...

Okay, so I got a little bored with this dumb biography.

-James

LOL!!! I'm going with the first and last one. ;) :D

How about:
God's Children
Liberated Lutherans
God's Devoted Lutherans

That's all I can think of. I'm soo tired right now. :yawn:

[theologia crucis]

Concordia? ;)

[Phoebe]

Table Talk.
:P





LOL

[theologia crucis]

A Mighty Fortress?

The Potluck Room?

[Phoebe]

Potlucks and Table Talk

[ByzantineDixie]

I like A Mighty Fortress.

I also like simul justus et peccator! ;)

Rose

[theologia crucis]

I just thought of another dumb one:

The Concordists

Just in case you don't know, the early Lutheran "fathers" (besides Augustine, Ambrose, etc.), are sometimes referred to as the Concordists, because they developed the Formula of Concord and compiled the Book of Concord (harmony).

They were:

Jakob Andrae
Nicholas Selnecker
Andrew Musculus
Christopher Körner
David Chytraeus
Martin Chemnitz

[ChiRho]

Although, I do enjoy names such as Table Talk and A Mighty Fortress, I have some apprehensiveness about changing our rock-solid name of stability which is easily idenified, Lutheran (or some close variation), to something slightly obscure or unintentionally misleading. Should we cover our beacon of familiar light, for a dimmer, more hidden one? What I mean is, for those interested in Lutheranism, but lacking the first clue what Table Talk is, maybe we should provide a well lit and well marked path (targeted at the common man) leading to the undeniable truth of the Holy Scripture as rightly interpreted by the Book of Concord and the very true Apostolic Faith. Suffer no confusion, or atleast avoid it as much as possible!

Maybe I just think about this too much.

Anyway, my vote would be cast for something keeping the recognizable name of Luther, Lutheran(s), Lutheranism...etc.

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[ByzantineDixie]

OK, guys...FWIW here's my thinking on the deal. My preference is for a name that speaks more to our faith than to our history. When I look at "One Bread, One Body"...that says more to me than anything like Vatican Vestibule or The Rock of St. Peter. Maybe Table Talk can be the pub-like thread in our new forum?

It would be great if we could find a name that speaks to who we are in Christ. Perhaps we can find one that reflects our faith as well as our heritage...that would be great, too.

Frankly, I like Theologia Crucis...but that would steal Theo's name.

What are some other distinctly Lutheran faith phrases that might work?

I really should be getting ready for work! Maybe something will come to me later.

Love y'all

Rose

[ByzantineDixie]

Looks like ChiRho posted while I was drafting....

I think his point holds some water too. Perhaps we can be descriptive and visible at the same time...something hyphenated.

A Mighty Fortress--Lutheran Discussions (I am no way suggesting this...it's a bit dry, just illustrating a point)

It will take us a while as Lutherans are not known as change agents ;) but when we get something we like, we'll know it!!!

Keep the ideas coming.

Rose

[theologia crucis]

I don't mind changing my user name for the good of the forum.

What about something like (stealing from Dr. Veith): The Sprituality of the Cross--Lutheran Discussions

Or: sola fide--Lutheran

[Music4Hym777]

I like "A Mighty Fortress" and "The Potluck Room" but that doesn't define who we are, so I think we should go with good ole "Liberated Lutherans" (even though many of us are not liberal)

[ChiRho]

I like "A Mighty Fortress" and "The Potluck Room" but that doesn't define who we are, so I think we should go with good ole "Liberated Lutherans" (even though many of us are not liberal)

I take Liberated Lutherans, as 'Freed' Lutherans. Those who are are set free from the Law, because of Christ. We have been freed from our bondage of slavery. (Galatians 5)

You would have to define "liberal," to see if it applies to me. Probably not, as I am so used to this word tossed from one modern evangelical group to the next.

By chance, I am a Libertarian Party member as well. But, probably not a "liberal" as most people would define the word.

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[Music4Hym777]

Haha Chirho (sp)

Actually I define Liberal as into all of the new stuff (Red vs. Green LOL we have had this debate for way to long) into change, not caring if there are women, gay, or bi pastors. I am talking about liberal churches. (Letting unordained pastors be the senior pastors, I have seen this happen)

Thats what I say when I mean liberal.

I like your def too.

[ChiRho]

Lutherania--Domain of Crucified Theology

Planet Lutheran--Theology of the Cross

I also like Theo's, Spirituality of the Cross! Did you know that Gene Veith just took a position at the Fort Wayne Seminary! I have got to be the luckiest boy in the whole world!

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[ChiRho]

Lutheran Logia

Logia (plural of logion) A saying attributed to Jesus in the Gospels or in other ancient sources.
One of a collection of sayings of Jesus reputedly in circulation in the early Church, most of which are not recorded in the Gospels but which may have belonged to the source material from which the Gospels were compiled. *

*we are just continuing this, today!!

Apologia- A Lutheran defense for the catholic faith

just some brainstormin'

ChiRho

[JVAC]

I also think it should reference a theological perspective and reflect our Lutheran identity. There are some pretty good suggestions. Keep them rolling in!

(Stupid Augsburg Fortress publishers took one of the cooler names)

How about:

He is Risen Indeed! - Liberated Lutherans

I take Liberated Lutherans, as 'Freed' Lutherans. Those who are are set free from the Law, because of Christ. We have been freed from our bondage of slavery. (Galatians 5)
And the tyrany of Death and the evil one!!





On another topic-
Actually I define Liberal as into all of the new stuff (Red vs. Green LOL we have had this debate for way to long) into change, not caring if there are women, gay, or bi pastors. I am talking about liberal churches. (Letting unordained pastors be the senior pastors, I have seen this happen)
Yeah, I don't think that we are THAT liberal :D . Actually by that deffinition most of us here are vehement conservatives. ooH man, this is a topic in itself, I can't understand how a congregation would do something like, have an un-ordained minister, that goes against the Confessions.

I don't want to drag this thread off topic so.... Yeah names are cool

-James

[JVAC]

Here is something I found that is actually quite interesting to read!

http://www.wquercus.com/articles/crucis.htm

It took me a while but I am a slow reader, however, it does keep the attention.

-James

[ChiRho]

(Stupid Augsburg Fortress publishers took one of the cooler names)

which one?

ChiRho

[JVAC]

Here is something I found that is actually quite interesting to read!

http://www.wquercus.com/articles/crucis.htm

It took me a while but I am a slow reader, however, it does keep the attention.

-James


AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!

WRONG THREAD!!!!!!!!! Dang it!


which one?
I think Augsburg Fortress is a super cool name, it reflects the solidarity of our Confession to the Emperor and all the world!

-James

[Protoevangel]

I was expecting the sub-fora to be under the PRE forum, like:

"The Chapel"
"The Catholic devotional subforum"

and

"Catechism Studies"
"The Catholic Catechism study subforum."

are under under OBOB.

Then we could have a way cool name like:
"Table Talk" or "Augsburg Fortress" or "A Mighty Fortress"
with a sub-title like:
"The home of Liberated Lutherans". (Liberated, not liberal) ;)

I kinda thought that was the whole idea of our request for subforums.

[theologia crucis]

Law and Gospel?

[theologia crucis]

I hadn't heard about Dr. Veith going to CTSFW! That's great for you, ChiRho!

[ChiRho]

Law and Gospel?

"Properly Distinguished Law and Gospel" ?

"Home of the true Apostolic faith" ?

that may cause some arguing!

[ChiRho]

I hadn't heard about Dr. Veith going to CTSFW! That's great for you, ChiRho!

I know...I am the Loud and Lewd Lutheran, who is now spoiled rotten! What are they going to do with me?

[ChiRho]

How about,

"The Original Evangelicals"

or

"The First Evangelicals"

or

"Castle Wittenberg- A Lutheran Fortress"

or

"Through the Mouth of an ***- A correct understanding of Lutheran confession"

or

"Dung Filled Snowballs- An Honest Lutheran Confessional Forum"

"Dung Filled Snowballs- Confessional Lutherans"

just some thoughts

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[ChiRho]

"Dung Filled Snowballs- The Duality of Confessional Lutherans"

"Dung Filled Snowballs- The Duality of the Imputed Righteousness of Christ given to God-haters; Lutheranism: Poor Miserable Sinner, yet Completely Righteous Saint.

I really like the poopy snowball analogy!

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[ChiRho]

When do we vote for a name?

[JVAC]

When do we vote for a name?
What I was thinking was, that we'd give it a week of time for suggestions, that way everyone would have ample time to think and to suggest the names they think best. After that I propose we have a small two to three day discussion (to give everyone a chance to give feedback) to hopefully narrow the names down to at least four or so. Then after that period, we should vote. Hopefully this accomodates everyone, and no one feels left out.

I think we should end the name proposals at 12:00pm Sunday Night, EST. and begin the discussion phaze then.

-James

[JVAC]

Loud Lutheran Layity?

Here I Stand - Lutheran/Moravian Forum

Concordia

Excommunicated Evangelicals

Papal Bulls are Bull$#!^

The First Fundies

Solus Christus

Lutheran Forum - Home of the Sinful Saints

Lord Have Mercy!

Pardoned and Cleansed

Yeah, I just am wasting time until Lunch!

-James

[Protoevangel]

The Forum of Concord

Augsburg Forum

This is most certianly true - Lutheran forums

Luther's Little Instruction Bookies (or Rookies) (not resally a submission, just thrown in cause I thought it sounded funny)

[JVAC]

This is most certianly true - Lutheran forums
I LOVE IT!!!

-James

[GlowingFirefly]

I still like "League of Liberated Lutherans"

How about:

Thanks be to God - The Liberated Lutherans
Footsteps
Jesus and the Little Lutherans (Hey I thought is sounded cute! ;) )

If you guys ever figure out what we should name this forum, PM either me or another mod of this forum and we'll have someone change it. :)

[theologia crucis]

Whatever we choose, it should be short, to the point, and unmistakeably Lutheran.

How about:

Christocentric-Lutheran Forum

But, I do love:

Papal Bulls are Bull$#!^

and

This is most certianly true - Lutheran forums

LOL!

[ChiRho]

Papal Bulls are Bull$#!^

I cast my vote!

[ChiRho]

Whatever we choose, it should be short, to the point, and unmistakeably Lutheran.

Perfect Criteria...in a single sentence.

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[ByzantineDixie]

Well, creativity is not my strong suit. I sat for about 15 minutes today thinking on this topic and only came up with...

Lift High the Cross--Lutheran Discussions

(I still like Theologia Crucis--Lutheran Discussions, too)

I actually thought of This is most certainly true--Lutheran Discussions as well but my brother from the ELCA side of the family beat me to it! :clap:

James...thanks for organizing this.

Love y'all

Rose

[theologia crucis]

I like your first option there, Rose!

And, like I've said before, I've got no problem giving up my username.

Two last ideas (or one idea with two translations):

Propter Christum-Lutheran Forums

For Christ's Sake-Lutheran Forums

Make it three, and I'll through it out again:

Law and Gospel-Lutheran Forums

[theologia crucis]

One last idea:

Thy Strong Word

[HunterJon]

Anybody gonna show some love for us Moravians in the name :) .

How about:
United in Christ - The Lutheran & Moravian Discussion Group
The Original Rebels - Lutherans and Moravians United

[Music4Hym777]

I'm all for Rose's "Lift High the Cross-Lutheran Discussions"

[ChiRho]

I am partial to "The Original Evangelicals" or "The First Evangelicals"

But anything Rose writes is golden too. Well, everything except her commentary on TPDL. :P :P :P



Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[ChiRho]

What is the matter with everyone....

No one would like to be known as "Dung Filled Snowballs"? I think this is honest, simple, and extremely Lutheran!

Dung= Sin; our sinful selves

Snowball= The perfect imputed Righteousness of Christ covering our sin

Where a Roman or a Neo Evangelical would claim a pure snowball, we boldy admit the truth of our poopy core! ^_^

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[JVAC]

Anybody gonna show some love for us Moravians in the name :) .
Sorry, we have been a little exclusive. *hug

Maybe we can do; Goose and Pheasant (or was it duck and goose)

I recall something a long time ago that was a prophesy or something that was thought to be talking about Hus and Luther, mentioning to be a goose and something else. maybe somebody can help me with that.

-James

[UberLutheran]

Alternate name: "Hotdish".

Anyone who is a real Lutheran will immediately recognize the significance of these two names.

[ChiRho]

"Castle Wittenberg: A Mighty Lutheran Fortress"

[ByzantineDixie]

"Castle Wittenberg: A Mighty Lutheran Fortress"
I like this one very much.

The snowball one doesn't appeal to my PDL tainted sensibilities though! :P

(And wouldn't ya know...I didn't get my comments out before we got our own forum. Now I have no excuse but to publish them and catch Lutheran H E double hockey sticks!!! Ah well, that must wait. I have my Caregiving class ends in a couple of weeks and I am heading up a project at church and beginning a web redesign, also for my church...I bet I can put this off a while still. ;)

But if it meant bringing Lotar out of the woodwork...I'd try to get something up this weekend. Does someone have his RL e-mail and could they e-mail him to find out what's up? If things aren't so good I want to be able to pray for him...if things are really good--like he found a girlfriend to keep him otherwise occupied and off the boards then that would ease my concerns. Any information would help.)

Peace

Rose

[theologia crucis]

Rose,

Just go to Lotar's public profile (http://www.christianforums.com/u7345), and you can send him an e-mail from there, or you can go to his home page from his profile, too (it's his forum).

I haven't heard anything in a while, and we're already received one papal dispensation. I'm getting a little nervous. I pray everything's alright with him. Maybe it's just school...

[ByzantineDixie]

Just tried...he's not taking e-mails. :( -----R

[Rechtgläubig]

"die Rechtgläubig (http://christianforums.com/u14657) Christen"?


:D

[ChiRho]

"Vicarious Atonement- A medium for Lutheran discourse"

[JVAC]

This is a 49 hour notice:

In forty-nine hours the suggestion phase is completed, so if you have an idea, or a friend with an idea, now is the time to post.

Also, I recomend you choose three of your favorites to discuss on Monday, Tuesday and maybe Wednessday.

-James

[Phoebe]

How about the Kraut Room?
LOL

[Rechtgläubig]

Hahahaha!!! :D

[Phoebe]

Like that one? We could use 'bratwurst and saurkraut.'

[Rechtgläubig]

"sola Gratia, sola Fide, sola Scriptura, sola cervacia"


:D

[Phoebe]

What is cervacia?

[Rechtgläubig]

Bier! :D

[Rechtgläubig]

Not positive if my Grammar is flawless, but I like "die Rechtgläubig (http://christianforums.com/u14657) Christen". "The Right-believing Christians" has a nice ring to it. :P


lol



Yay it's Saturday! Burrito night! :yum:

JVAC, making my homemade Guacamole, you in dude? I'll winzip some for ya!

:D

[JVAC]

OK, suggestion phaze is completed. Now comencing Phase to, talk it to death. :D

This is the time where you can bump your favorites, talk with eachother, and lobby, lobby, lobby.

To get things started I really like:

This is most certainly true - Lutheran/Moravian Forum

A Mighty Fortress - Liberated Lutherans and Moravian ;)

Super awesomely spectacular people with hammers...

-James

[Flipper]

I'm still hip on "Party like it's 1530!"

[Rechtgläubig]

LOL Flipper!

[JVAC]

Phase to
Has everyone seen this? That is horrible! Who does that?

Let's start this better...

Phase Two!!

-James

[Rechtgläubig]

Considering most of my posting is done in the middle of the night on only 4 hours of sleep, I am the last person to be criticizing spelling and grammar errors. :D

[Phoebe]

Bier! :D
Oh duh!
I couldn't figure that one out??!!??


Beer and Brats! The Lutheran/ Moravian Forums

[Phoebe]

I wonder if we'll really take this topic seriously anytime soon?

[Rechtgläubig]

Haha!

[ByzantineDixie]

OK...here are my top 3 (I am anxious for us to get a proper name!)

Castle Wittenberg: A Mighty Lutheran Fortress

Theologia Crucis—Lutheran Reflections

Lift High the Cross—Lutheran Perspectives

(I used other words than "Discussions" because I noticed the Catholics already claimed that word and I like to be a original. ;) )

'night all

Rose

[JVAC]

I wonder if we'll really take this topic seriously anytime soon?
Ha, ha, ha, I was just coming in here to crack the whip!!

But really, we need to get down serious, I want to have the vote on wednessday if possible, but with CF down Sunday, maybe we need to post-pone it to thursday.

I really like:

This is most certainly true: Lutheran/Moravian Forum

(But maybe something instead of Forum, like congregation, or dare I say........ Concordists ;) @Theologia)

-James

[JVAC]

Lift high the cross is a cool one too!

Maybe: Lift High the Cross - Liberated Lutherans??

-James

[ChiRho]

James,

I am not sure what your plans are for narrowing the names down and eventually selecting one, but why not set up a poll and include maybe 10 names or so, wait a few days, and then create a new poll with the top three. Wait a few more days and we should have a home with a name. Just a suggestion. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of seeking refuge in Castle Wittenberg. Come all you tired, tormented souls and warm your bones within the protective walls of Castle Wittenberg! We offer what very few others do...the healing truth of the untainted Gospel. An Assurance, which is not only found, but boldy proclaimed in Lutheranism, and scarce- if not completely lost- among the other churches within Christendom. This is not to say that all other churches deny outright, the forgiveness offered according to Christ alone, but it is commonly hidden by or perverted with, a mask of uncertainty known as the "the third use of the Law." If someone could come up with a name that confessess the truth about our utterly sinful, but completely Justified state, I would have no other choice but to vote for it. Here is a great opportunity to evangelize. Realize how many people would read over the name everyday, and assuming the church listing order remains, think about all of the Roman Catholics that must scan across our name to get to get to OBOB!

Just some thoughts...

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[Rechtgläubig]

I think we should call JVAC up every week and vote by phone. It works for American Idol. :P

:D

[JVAC]

I was hoping that between now and wednesday the talking phase would bring out the most popular ideas, because the most popular ideas are usually talked about...

Anyway, after that I was going to take the more popular ones and make a poll. I just thought that a talking phase would be ideal, because it would allow people (like you and me) to talk about subjects, like the one you just mentioned.

The only thing I am not sure there is a castle in Wittenberg, there is in Wartburg and a good university in Wittenberg.

-James

[JVAC]

I think we should call JVAC up every week and vote by phone. It works for American Idol. :P

:D
AWESOME!!!! Except this one you can only call once ;).

-James

[LuxPerpetua]

I really like:

A Mighty Fortress
Concordia
Lift High the Cross
The Narrow Gate
Liberated Lutherans


Just my thoughts ;)

[ChiRho]

Castle Church in Wittenberg

The most breath taking church building in the region Anhalt-Wittenberg certainly is the Castle Church "All Saints" and the castle in Wittenberg. The church, originally built for the dynasty, was incorporated into the Wittenberg university in 1507. The original door on which Martin Luther posted his 95 theses
was destroyed by fire and replaced with a bronce door in 1858. From the beauty of the castle is hardly anything lett. It now houses the townarchives, a museum and a youth hostel.
here back

http://www.osl.cc/ff/sanctpics/castle1.jpg http://www.galenfrysinger.com/europe/wittenberg11.jpghttp://www.wcge.org/images/startseite/tuer.jpg The door of the castle church in Wittenberg where in 1517 Martin Luther nailed 95 theses against sale of indulgences and changed the world.
http://www.galenfrysinger.com/europe/wittenberg09.jpg Luther's Tomb

[GlowingFirefly]

Liberated Lutherans is my top choice.

I have an idea.

How about everyone give out their top 2 favorite names here, and then I will make a poll in this thread for the top most chosen names. After a week goes by, the name with the most votes will win.

You guys want to do this?

[LuxPerpetua]

Voting is fine by me :)

[JVAC]

Is there a way to make the Poll exclusive to Lutherans and Moravian (HunterJon)??

-James

[GlowingFirefly]

What do you mean James? You mean you want the poll only for Lutherans and Moravians?

[JVAC]

What do you mean James? You mean you want the poll only for Lutherans and Moravians?
I guess I should have said exclusive for and not to. However, yes, I think that only the Lutherans and Moravian should decide. I think if we have a poll only those people should be allowed to vote.

-James

[GlowingFirefly]

Well the only way I can do that is to just make a note at the top of the poll alerting members that only Lutherans and Moravian can vote. I think that this is the best I can do.

So come on everyone! I need your top 2 choices! :)

[ChiRho]

JVAC,

I wonder if you read my response concerning the uncertainty of a castle in Wittenberg. It is on page eight.

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[Phoebe]

Wasn't Wittenburg Castle Catholic?

I like Liberated Lutherans and Table Talk.

[ChiRho]

Wasn't Wittenburg Castle Catholic?

I like Liberated Lutherans and Table Talk.

I am going to say most of the churches before the Reformation were Roman Catholic. But Luther and Melanchthon are buried there (inside the Castle Church) and Luther lived out his last days in Wittenberg, from some sources preaching from the pulpit of the Castle Church. This is also the church that he nailed the 95 thesis to. I would say that the Castle Church is not Roman, but if anyone has some other info, that would be helpful.

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[LuxPerpetua]

Hi, Puppy :wave:

My top two choices are:

A Mighty Fortress
Chapel of Grace

[Lotar]

I like:

Table Talk
Castle Wittenberg: A Mighty Lutheran Fortress

[Music4Hym777]

A Mighty Fortress
Liberated Lutherans

[GlowingFirefly]

Okay, I'll have you guys give your two top favorites for about 3 days, then I'll take the two most popular votes and make a poll for those two votes after the three days are up. The winner of the two names will be decided after a week from when the poll was made.

Sound fair? :)

Keep the votes coming! :)

[Rechtgläubig]

I like:

Theologia Crucis

[ChiRho]

I like:

Theologia Crucis

I really like this too! Can we add something to make it more easily identifiable?

Theologia Cricis- Confessional Lutherans

Crucified Theology- Confessional Lutheranism

?

I may be biased, but I like

Castle Wittenberg- A Mighty Lutheran Fortress

[ByzantineDixie]

I am going to be a pain in the rump but for some unknown reason this is actually important to me. Then again, it could just be the control freak in me sneaking out to play. :D

Puppy, rather than each of us sifting through these threads and listing our top two choices would you please consider assembling a list of names where we've had some reasonable affirmation that the name is liked?

Examples include:

Liberated Lutherans
Table Talk
Theologia Crucis- something Lutherans (it scares me when I agree too much with ChiRho ;) but I really do like "confessional" Lutherans.)
Lift High the Cross- something Lutherans
Castle Wittenberg: A Mighty Lutheran Fortress
etc.

You could publish that list...give us a day or two to massage it and then run a poll? I think there are a few ideas out there that have not fully matured and because they are not reconciled the vote may only count as one when, in fact, a number of us would like some version of it. The biggest thing that comes to mind are those identifiers that involve something Lutherans or Lutheran somethings.

Thanks for your consideration.-----R

[LuxPerpetua]

I agree with Rose. A list would be great. One thing to keep in mind: There are alternate choices for some names, like both "A Mighty Fortress" and "Castle Wittenberg: A Mighty Lutheran Fortress" have been suggested. I would agree to the first name but not the second, so these details are important to me. I know this may be some work, Puppy, but I'd really appreciate it. Thanks for doing this and being such a great mod. :)

[ChiRho]

I agree with Rose. A list would be great. One thing to keep in mind: There are alternate choices for some names, like both "A Mighty Fortress" and "Castle Wittenberg: A Mighty Lutheran Fortress" have been suggested. I would agree to the first name but not the second, so these details are important to me. I know this may be some work, Puppy, but I'd really appreciate it. Thanks for doing this and being such a great mod. :)

Just out of curiousity...why not the second?

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[LuxPerpetua]

The only thing I don't like about it is that it tends to recall Martin Luther personally with the reference to Wittenberg, which, for some of the more veteran Lutherans may not be a big deal, but for me it is. I consider Martin Luther a very wise man and a great reformer but I think the "truth of Law and Gospel" should point back to Christ rather than Luther directly. I think of it as, Christ started the church, but Luther reformed it and brought it back to what it should be. Maybe I'm rambling but the name does bug me a bit. I would prefer something like:

A Mighty Lutheran Fortress

or

Confessional Lutherans: A Mighty Fortress

[ChiRho]

The only thing I don't like about it is that it tends to recall Martin Luther personally with the reference to Wittenberg, which, for some of the more veteran Lutherans may not be a big deal, but for me it is. I consider Martin Luther a very wise man and a great reformer but I think the "truth of Law and Gospel" should point back to Christ rather than Luther directly. I think of it as, Christ started the church, but Luther reformed it and brought it back to what it should be. Maybe I'm rambling but the name does bug me a bit. I would prefer something like:

A Mighty Lutheran Fortress

or

Confessional Lutherans: A Mighty Fortress

By your own line of reasoning... should we even say "...Luther reformed it and brought it back to what it should be." Does this seem to translate that Luther saved the Church? :P Just kiddin'! LOL!!

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[Lotar]

Actually, doesn't Castle Wittenburg refer to Fredrick the Wise and John the Steadfast saving the Church? ;)

[ByzantineDixie]

By your own line of reasoning... should we even say "...Luther reformed it and brought it back to what it should be." Does this seem to translate that Luther saved the Church? :P Just kiddin'! LOL!!

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

Please Lux!!! Don't feed him or we'll have to live with him this way for a week! ;) ^_^

(It's OK ChiRho...I know you REALLY feel this way and it's good to get it out...even if you have to put an LOL after it. :P ^_^ )

Tonight...I will root for the Tigers for you...but only in my heart because I will be busy finishing up my last assignment for my Caregiving class.

Play ball, y'all. :D ------R

[ChiRho]

Quote:
Originally Posted by: LuxPerpetua




The only thing I don't like about it is that it tends to recall Martin Luther personally with the reference to Wittenberg, which, for some of the more veteran Lutherans may not be a big deal, but for me it is. I consider Martin Luther a very wise man and a great reformer but I think the "truth of Law and Gospel" should point back to Christ rather than Luther directly. I think of it as, Christ started the church, but Luther reformed it and brought it back to what it should be. Maybe I'm rambling but the name does bug me a bit. I would prefer something like:

A Mighty Lutheran Fortress

or

Confessional Lutherans: A Mighty Fortress




By your own line of reasoning... should we even say "...Luther reformed it and brought it back to what it should be." Does this seem to translate that Luther saved the Church?

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[ChiRho]

LOL!!

[Lotar]

Luther didn't save the Church, God used him to save the Church. ;)

[ChiRho]

Actually, doesn't Castle Wittenburg refer to Fredrick the Wise and John the Steadfast saving the Church? ;)

They didnt? :scratch:

[ChiRho]

Luther didn't save the Church, God used him to save the Church. ;)

How do you know? Did you see it? Huh!? Huh!!?

[Lotar]

They didnt? :scratch:
Of course they did.

[LuxPerpetua]

You just can't argue with Lutheran testosterone! :P

[Lotar]

http://www.reformation.org/frederick.jpg

I vote for Castle Wittenburg
-Elector Frederick the Wise

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/images/hb/hb_46.179.2.jpg
I vote for Table Talk.
-Elector John the Steadfast

[Rechtgläubig]

Luther didn't save the Church, God used him to save the Church.

Exactly! :D You got it man!

"I simply taught, preached, wrote God's Word; otherwise I did nothing. And then, while I slept, or drank Wittenberg beer with my Philip and my Amsdorf, the Word so greatly weakened the papacy that never a prince or emperor did such damage to it. I did nothing. The Word did it all. "

^_^

[GlowingFirefly]

Keep the votes coming you guys!

This Puppy is about ready to curl up in its basket and sleep for the night, but tomorrow when I get home from church I plan to put together a list of the most popular names chosen and make a poll.

So keep voting! :)

[GlowingFirefly]

I am going to be a pain in the rump but for some unknown reason this is actually important to me. Then again, it could just be the control freak in me sneaking out to play. :D

Puppy, rather than each of us sifting through these threads and listing our top two choices would you please consider assembling a list of names where we've had some reasonable affirmation that the name is liked?

Examples include:

Liberated Lutherans
Table Talk
Theologia Crucis- something Lutherans (it scares me when I agree too much with ChiRho ;) but I really do like "confessional" Lutherans.)
Lift High the Cross- something Lutherans
Castle Wittenberg: A Mighty Lutheran Fortress
etc.

You could publish that list...give us a day or two to massage it and then run a poll? I think there are a few ideas out there that have not fully matured and because they are not reconciled the vote may only count as one when, in fact, a number of us would like some version of it. The biggest thing that comes to mind are those identifiers that involve something Lutherans or Lutheran somethings.

Thanks for your consideration.-----R
Whoopsy, I missed this post. Sorry about that.

Good idea. Here are the choices so far:


Table Talk
Castle Wittenburg: A Mighty Lutheran Fortress
Liberated Lutherans
Theological Crucis - Confessional Lutherans
Lift High the Cross - ??? Lutherans (Need some ideas for this one)
Any that I missed? Post it if I did and I'll add it to the list. Input on those for now would be great, especially for the last one.

I'll make the poll after some feedback is gotten for these. :)

[JVAC]

What about "this most certainly is true"?

Anyway, I want to apply preassure for a vote!!! I was hoping you guys would have had a name by now. So Hopefully these suggestions can be put into a poll, and people could choose two, and then in two days a final vote??

-James

[ChiRho]

Nothin' wimpy...something bold!! But something comforting as well!

James...fine suggestion....tweak it a bit, please?

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[JMRE5150]

I'm gonna chock my vote up to something thats already been said, and stolen from the movie...


"Rebel, Genius, Liberator"

So we modify it some...as not to offend our brethren in Christ...

"One Man, One Vision, One Freedom"

How's that, mates?

Robb

[JVAC]

James...fine suggestion....tweak it a bit, please?
This is most certainly true - Liberated Lutherans


...but I also like

Lift high the cross - Liberated Lutherans

or maybe even "Lifting High the Cross since 0033 " ;)

-James

[ChiRho]

How about,

Christianity=Lutheranism

That oughtta send 'em chargin'!

The more I dwell on a name, the more I favor something that includes the Theology of the Cross in some variation, but also retaining a form of Lutheran(s)(ism) etc.

When we gonna vote?

Pax Christi,

ChiRho

[Lotar]

How about,

Christianity=Lutheranism

That oughtta send 'em chargin'!

The more I dwell on a name, the more I favor something that includes the Theology of the Cross in some variation, but also retaining a form of Lutheran(s)(ism) etc.

When we gonna vote?

Pax Christi,

ChiRho
How about: The Evangelical Church Catholic - Confessions of the Lutheran Church

[ChiRho]

How about: The Evangelical Church Catholic - Confessions of the Lutheran Church

I like! Catholic is not theirs...it is all of ours!

[GlowingFirefly]

As good as a name that is Lotar, I think that's a bit long.

Sorry I've been lagging behind here. Things have been pretty hectic in my life latley.

But anyway, I will be making a poll right now on these suggestions.

Go to the first post in this thread and you should see the poll. (if not I haven't made it yet.) ;) So take your vote!

The poll will end this Sunday afternoon, May 23 2004. I will post the winner, then contact one of the higher mods to change the name.

Vote away! :)

[theologia crucis]

If we want to brag, how about the:

evangelical, catholic, orthodox, apostolic, historical, protestant, reformed, scriptural, Law and Gospel Christian church - Lutherans

We were the first group of Christians to be called evangelical, and that is our main function, to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ
We are part of the church catholic
We are orthodox
We teach what the apostles taught
We are historical (our theology dates to the Garden of Eden: Genesis 3:15)
We and the Zwinglians were the TWO groups to protest at Speyer in 1529
We called ourselves reformed by 1577 or 1580 (in the Book of Concord)
We base our theology on Scripture alone
We properly distinguish between Law and Gospel
We are CHRISTIAN (nobody proclaims Christ and Him crucified like we do!)
And we are part of the called out, the ecclesia!



This should get some interesting responses! I better get back to packing!

[Phoebe]

This has been fun to read.

[Concordia]

"Through the Mouth of an ***- A correct understanding of Lutheran confession"

or

"Dung Filled Snowballs- An Honest Lutheran Confessional Forum"

"Dung Filled Snowballs- Confessional Lutherans"

just some thoughts

Pax Christi,

ChiRho


Could you be anymore crass? This is so offensive.

[Concordia]

"Waffling Lutherans" for those who don't know what they are.

[ByzantineDixie]

Could you be anymore crass? This is so offensive.

Actually Luther is credited with the snow covered dung analogy...I thought it was offensive the first time I read it too...I still don't particularily like it. I haven't found the source reference yet. If I do, I'll post it.

[revjpw]

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[ctobola]

I think that's a problem for the same reason as the "Augsburg Fortress" -- too denominiation-specific. If it weren't for that, I'd like it.

-c

Concordia? ;)

[ctobola]

I still like the Wittenburg Door - "Posting Truth for the World to See" (or some such tagline.)

-Cloy

[ctobola]

How about:

Lutherans - chasing the devil away with a fart!

(Luther would have liked it.)

-Cloy

[ctobola]

How about using "Here we stand...."

(With credit to RevJPW for giving me the idea.)

-Cloy

[night2day]

:idea:


Why not keep the main forum general such as a simple

"Lutheran Discussions"

and any Confessional, Moderate, & Liberal subforums decide on the titles of their own forums?

:idea:

[Lotar]

They didnt? :scratch:

On second thought, you're right, I was wrong. ;)

:P ^_^

[MORTANIUS]

~Lutherans United~

[night2day]

~Lutherans United~

The issue of various conflicting teaachings held by the denominations represented within the forums gives anything but the idea the Lutherans here are united. Wouldn't that be misleading? Epecially when one thinking if there's a main forum and subforums. And the subforums -both- support the main forum? even though they may not?

Just a thought.