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HisKid1973
7th January 2008, 01:21 AM
Since your our elder here and from Cali., how about telling us some of your thoughts on this experience..shalom..Kim
Peaceful Dove
7th January 2008, 02:07 AM
Since your our elder here and from Cali., how about telling us some of your thoughts on this experience..shalom..Kim
I would love to but, it happened 30 years before I was born.
It is funny too. I remember Aimee Semple McPherson. I went a number of times with my mother and my aunt to see her at the Angeles Temple. We saw many miracles happen there.
I remember Kathyn Kuhlman very well. She was usually at the Shrine Auditorium and we went quite a few times to see her. My aunt was a real follower of her healing ministry.
These two women were the talk of the town.
With all of that, I never remembered any talk about Azusa Street. This is very strange to me.
I didn't even noticed any talk about Azusa street until the late 1960's and the beginning of the Charismatic Renewal. When the Holy Spirit fell on the Students at Dusquaine University and the Renewal was born, many older Catholics claimed that the students were followers of Azusa Street. I remember asking what the heck is Azusa Street. These were remarks made within the Catholic communities trying to say the Renewal was Protestant Pentecostal rather than Catholic. Of course history has proved them wrong and the entire Charismatic Movement, both Catholic and non-Catholic came straight from the move of the Holy Spirit in the late 1960s with this group of students.
Patty Mansfield who was one of the students has written a wonderful book about that experience.
HisKid1973
7th January 2008, 02:17 AM
The move of the Holy Spirit doesn't have any name attached to it , huh..It's all the Lord's work.. Our job is to get with the program..^_^..Just make sure the flesh is dead..Wasn't it a blind black preacher in a storefront? When were the "shoutin" Methodist's around..I remember some things coming out later about Kathern Kuhlman..
Peaceful Dove
7th January 2008, 02:48 AM
The move of the Holy Spirit doesn't have any name attached to it , huh..It's all the Lord's work.. Our job is to get with the program..^_^..Just make sure the flesh is dead..Wasn't it a blind black preacher in a storefront? When were the "shoutin" Methodist's around..I remember some things coming out later about Kathern Kuhlman..
There was a nasty scandal about Miss McPherson. A faked kidnapping I think. I don't remember anything about Miss Kuhlman.
Yes, I believe it was a black preacher at Azusa Street.
This is a rather hard subject for me because I am so opposed to racism.
But, in 1906 in Los Angeles, racism must have been rampant. It was when I was growing up in the 1940s
I went to black churches in Los Angeles as a child, but my parents were not aware of it. They knew I walked on Sunday to church but they had no clue where. I was told I could go to any church except Catholic.
I know that seems strange today but times have really changed. I walked two miles by myself to kindergarten right down Florence Avenue in Los Angeles to Florence Avenue Grammar School.
As a little kid, I had no thought about being the only white child in a black church. When my parents found out, much later, I was told which churches I could go to although not why. Segregation was big then.
So, there are questions in my mind about exactly how Azusa Street revival was. I have never read up on it so do not have a clue.
Has anyone else here?
CatholicFlame
7th January 2008, 04:38 AM
I have hear about it a little. I read how this preacher would just sit kinda quietly and pray up front. Hmm, I forget everything now. Soemthing like all different churches were going there and they were receiving baptism in the Spirit and tongues.
My friend SisterKatie is new here to CF but she absolutely loves azuza street. I will invite her to share her knowledge on it sometime.
I will invite her to come over.
HisKid1973
22nd January 2008, 01:51 AM
There was just a one hour special about it on Sky Angel that I just finished watching..Then I did a little research..Turns out it was mostly colored people with a smattering of white folk..Some of the first converts were Roman Catholic and Baptist..That gave me a little chuckle as those groups I have noticed can be hard against those having a charismatic Holy Ghost experience..It stemmed from the Welsh revival and was said to be a release of the Spirit before the return of the Lord..The guy that was preaching would wonder around the room and would discern what was happening and would tap people on the shoulder and tell them if they were manifesting in the flesh..Let it rain Lord, open the floodgates of heaven..
SisterKatie
22nd January 2008, 12:20 PM
Hey CatholicFlame and everyone:)
Its true I once made a paper on the Azusa Street revival in L.A. I liked to read about it...
It was a small group of people .. I believe the pastors name was William Seymour and that he had actually been raised Catholic but left the Church (I have to check this though) He was a black man yes.. which is great of course.. God always likes to scatter all our prejudices and He sits with the out-casts of society..
William had been listening to the teachings about this experience from a man named Parham at a Bible School.. and took his ideas with him.
The group was longing for the Baptism in the Holy Spirit with glossolalia(tongues) as the evidence-sign of the baptism. So they started fasting and praying for this for a while really intensely. The first in the group to get the experience was praying by him self in the basement at his job at a bank when he had a vision of Peter and John receiving the baptism in the Holy Spirit.
Later he layed hands on William Seymour who fell/resten in the Spirit (his wife went hysterical and thought he had died) and when he came to he was speaking in tongues.. The news soon spread to the whole city and many kinds of people came and from different churches..
Its all I know about it.. and then I know that everyone here among the pentecostals knows about the name Azusa Street, but the others have no clue.. Except for the Charismatic Catholics in my country.. they are only few but they are good and burning.. I had the privilege to speak with a few who were there at the beginning in the 70s.. I saw it as a sign of holy humility when I heard them say: "hehe.. yes God taught us Catholics a good lesson in humilty by letting the revival start in another assembly than ours."
God bless :wave:
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