Support for Israel

[Pray4Isrel]

What are some ways that you show your support for Israel?







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[Henaynei]

This is the most comprehensive source of Israeli products, food and non-food, that I have found. Every porduct that is bought that is made in Israel is a blessing.

Holon Foods (http://www6.ivenue.com/holonfoods/index2.ivnu)

[Pray4Isrel]

Awesome site! Thank you...
I thought a thread like this could help encourage those that want to show support for Israel but don't know where to begin.
We can all post links and whatnot and have a running thread of info.

[MorphRC]

I use to support Israel in everyway..i bought T-Shirts with Zionist and Hebrew sayings and walked around during the weekend with them and handing out notices and newsletters for Peace in Israel. That was until i met a lot of arrogant and selfish jews..which really hurt me, especially with all the effort i was putting in and my friends!.

After the bigotist encounters i stopped supporting Israel..i pray there will be peace there..but only so the Christian shrines and so forth will be protected. I use to care for the jews and i still do in a way since Christ commands us to love one another..but i dont respect them anymore :cry: .

I was a hardcore religious and political zionist for the jews..i figured there would be no way the Church could control the country to protect our shrines and churches..so i decided to support the Jews instead of the Muslims which would have certainly destroyed everything jewish and christian. But now i am no longer a Zionist or a Israeli supporter..i love the Holy Land but i am neutral and i guess i will stay that way unless God or human shows me otherwise.

[simchat_torah]

My favorite t-shirt:

I am a Zionist Infidel.

[KelsayDL]

That was until i met a lot of arrogant and selfish jews..

"No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church.


lol...

Anyway. I pray for HIS peace in Israel.

Not the peace that a paper will bring, nor any man.

[Shamash Of Yeshua]

To support anything here in the world tends to make you enemies of someone or something. Shall I lay my life down if it ever comes to that for the Land of Israel? Or for the People that are in the True Vine of Israel? I will have to say YES!!!
The enemy of YHWH is those who oppose YHWH, which of course includes Yeshua Ha Mashiach. So now where shall we go in support if those we support oppose us in the case of Yeshua Ha Mashiach. I say we turn the other cheek when those that were called YHWH's originally slap us on our cheek and even those who weren't the original people of YHWH. LOVE covers a multitude of SINs. We shall go out and make believers in YHWH's Salvation through LOVE, 'Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit,' says the LORD of Armies.

Deu 8:1-20 HNV All the mitzvah which I command you this day shall you observe to do, that you may live, and multiply, and go in and possess the land which the LORD swore to your fathers. (2) You shall remember all the way which the LORD your God has led you these forty years in the wilderness, that he might humble you, to prove you, to know what was in your heart, whether you would keep his mitzvot, or not. (3) He humbled you, and allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna, which you didn't know, neither did your fathers know; that he might make you know that man does not live by bread only, but by everything that proceeds out of the mouth of the LORD does man live. (4) Your clothing didn't grow old on you, neither did your foot swell, these forty years. (5) You shall consider in your heart that as a man chastens his son, so the LORD your God chastens you. (6) You shall keep the mitzvot of the LORD your God, to walk in his ways, and to fear him. (7) For the LORD your God brings you into a good land, a land of brooks of water, of springs, and underground water flowing into valleys and hills; (8) a land of wheat and barley, and vines and fig trees and pomegranates; a land of olive trees and honey; (9) a land in which you shall eat bread without scarceness, you shall not lack anything in it; a land whose stones are iron, and out of whose hills you may dig copper. (10) You shall eat and be full, and you shall bless the LORD your God for the good land which he has given you. (11) Beware lest you forget the LORD your God, in not keeping his mitzvot, and his ordinances, and his statutes, which I command you this day: (12) lest, when you have eaten and are full, and have built goodly houses, and lived therein; (13) and when your herds and your flocks multiply, and your silver and your gold is multiplied, and all that you have is multiplied; (14) then your heart be lifted up, and you forget the LORD your God, who brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage; (15) who led you through the great and terrible wilderness, [in which were] fiery serpents and scorpions, and thirsty ground where was no water; who brought you forth water out of the rock of flint; (16) who fed you in the wilderness with manna, which your fathers didn't know; that he might humble you, and that he might prove you, to do you good at your latter end: (17) and [lest] you say in your heart, My power and the might of my hand has gotten me this wealth. (18) But you shall remember the LORD your God, for it is he who gives you power to get wealth; that he may establish his covenant which he swore to your fathers, as at this day. (19) It shall be, if you shall forget the LORD your God, and walk after other gods, and serve them, and worship them, I testify against you this day that you shall surely perish. (20) As the nations that the LORD makes to perish before you, so shall you perish; because you wouldn't listen to the voice of the LORD your God.

1Ch 29:10-18 HNV Therefore David blessed the LORD before all the assembly; and David said, You are blessed, LORD, the God of Yisra'el our father, forever and ever. (11) Yours, LORD, is the greatness, the power, the glory, the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heavens and in the earth is yours. Yours is the kingdom, LORD, and you are exalted as head above all. (12) Both riches and honor come of you, and you rule over all; and in your hand is power and might; and it is in your hand to make great, and to give strength to all. (13) Now therefore, our God, we thank you, and praise your glorious name. (14) But who am I, and what is my people, that we should be able to offer so willingly as this? For all things come of you, and of your own have we given you. (15) For we are strangers before you, and foreigners, as all our fathers were: our days on the earth are as a shadow, and there is no abiding. (16) LORD our God, all this store that we have prepared to build you a house for your holy name comes of your hand, and is all your own. (17) I know also, my God, that you try the heart, and have pleasure in uprightness. As for me, in the uprightness of my heart I have willingly offered all these things: and now have I seen with joy your people, that are present here, offer willingly to you. (18) LORD, the God of Avraham, of Yitzchak, and of Yisra'el, our fathers, keep this forever in the imagination of the thoughts of the heart of your people, and prepare their heart to you;

2Ch 20:1-20 HNV It happened after this, that the children of Mo'av, and the children of `Ammon, and with them some of the Me`unim, came against Yehoshafat to battle. (2) Then there came some who told Yehoshafat, saying, There comes a great multitude against you from beyond the sea from Syria; and behold, they are in Chatzatzon-Tamar (the same is `En-Gedi). (3) Yehoshafat feared, and set himself to seek to the LORD; and he proclaimed a fast throughout all Yehudah. (4) Yehudah gathered themselves together, to seek [help] of the LORD: even out of all the cities of Yehudah they came to seek the LORD. (5) Yehoshafat stood in the assembly of Yehudah and Yerushalayim, in the house of the LORD, before the new court; (6) and he said, LORD, the God of our fathers, aren't you God in heaven? and aren't you ruler over all the kingdoms of the nations? and in your hand is power and might, so that none is able to withstand you. (7) Did not you, our God, drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Yisra'el, and give it to the seed of Avraham your friend forever? (8) They lived therein, and have built you a sanctuary therein for your name, saying, (9) If evil come on us, the sword, judgment, or pestilence, or famine, we will stand before this house, and before you, (for your name is in this house), and cry to you in our affliction, and you will hear and save. (10) Now, behold, the children of `Ammon and Mo'av and Mount Se`ir, whom you would not let Yisra'el invade, when they came out of the land of Egypt, but they turned aside from them, and didn't destroy them; (11) behold, how they reward us, to come to cast us out of your possession, which you have given us to inherit. (12) Our God, will you not judge them? for we have no might against this great company that comes against us; neither know we what to do: but our eyes are on you. (13) All Yehudah stood before the LORD, with their little ones, their wives, and their children. (14) Then on Yachazi'el the son of Zekharyah, the son of Benayah, the son of Ye`i'el, the son of Mattanyah, the Levite, of the sons of Asaf, came the Spirit of the LORD in the midst of the assembly; (15) and he said, Listen you, all Yehudah, and you inhabitants of Yerushalayim, and you king Yehoshafat: Thus says the LORD to you, Don't be afraid you, neither be dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle is not yours, but God's. (16) Tomorrow go you down against them: behold, they come up by the ascent of Tzitz; and you shall find them at the end of the valley, before the wilderness of Yeru'el. (17) You shall not need to fight in this [battle]: set yourselves, stand you still, and see the salvation of the LORD with you, O Yehudah and Yerushalayim; don't be afraid, nor be dismayed: tomorrow go out against them: for the LORD is with you. (18) Yehoshafat bowed his head with his face to the ground; and all Yehudah and the inhabitants of Yerushalayim fell down before the LORD, worshipping the LORD. (19) The Levites, of the children of the Kehati and of the children of the Korchi, stood up to praise the LORD, the God of Yisra'el, with an exceeding loud voice. (20) They rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Yehoshafat stood and said, Hear me, Yehudah, and you inhabitants of Yerushalayim: believe in the LORD your God, so shall you be established; believe his prophets, so shall you prosper.

Psa 106:1-48 HNV Praise the LORD! Give thanks to the LORD, for he is good, for his loving kindness endures forever. (2) Who can utter the mighty acts of the LORD, or fully declare all his praise? (3) Blessed are those who keep justice. Blessed is one who does what is right at all times. (4) Remember me, LORD, with the favor that you show to your people. Visit me with your yeshu`ah, (5) that I may see the prosperity of your chosen, that I may rejoice in the gladness of your nation, that I may glory with your inheritance. (6) We have sinned with our fathers. We have committed iniquity. We have done wickedly. (7) Our fathers didn't understand your wonders in Egypt. They didn't remember the multitude of your loving kindnesses, but were rebellious at the sea, even at the Sea of Suf. (8) Nevertheless he saved them for his name's sake, that he might make his mighty power known. (9) He rebuked the Sea of Suf also, and it was dried up; so he led them through the depths, as through a desert. (10) He saved them from the hand of him who hated them, and redeemed them from the hand of the enemy. (11) The waters covered their adversaries. There was not one of them left. (12) Then they believed his words. They sang his praise. (13) They soon forgot his works. They didn't wait for his counsel, (14) but gave in to craving in the desert, and tested God in the wasteland. (15) He gave them their request, but sent leanness into their soul. (16) They envied Moshe also in the camp, and Aharon, the LORD's holy one. (17) The earth opened and swallowed up Datan, and covered the company of Aviram. (18) A fire was kindled in their company. The flame burned up the wicked. (19) They made a calf in Chorev, and worshiped a molten image. (20) Thus they exchanged their glory for an image of a bull that eats grass. (21) They forgot God, their Savior, who had done great things in Egypt, (22) Wondrous works in the land of Cham, and awesome things by the Sea of Suf. (23) Therefore he said that he would destroy them, had Moshe, his chosen, not stood before him in the breach, to turn away his wrath, so that he wouldn't destroy them. (24) Yes, they despised the pleasant land. They didn't believe his word, (25) but murmured in their tents, and didn't listen to the LORD's voice. (26) Therefore he swore to them that he would overthrow them in the wilderness, (27) that he would overthrow their seed among the nations, and scatter them in the lands. (28) They joined themselves also to Ba`al-Pe`or, and ate the sacrifices of the dead. (29) Thus they provoked him to anger with their deeds. The plague broke in on them. (30) Then Pinechas stood up, and executed judgment, so the plague was stopped. (31) That was credited to him for righteousness, for all generations to come. (32) They angered him also at the waters of Merivah, so that Moshe was troubled for their sakes; (33) because they were rebellious against his spirit, he spoke rashly with his lips. (34) They didn't destroy the peoples, as the LORD commanded them, (35) but mixed themselves with the nations, and learned their works. (36) They served their idols, which became a snare to them. (37) Yes, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters to demons. (38) They shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and of their daughters, whom they sacrificed to the idols of Kena`an. The land was polluted with blood. (39) Thus were they defiled with their works, and prostituted themselves in their deeds. (40) Therefore the LORD burned with anger against his people. He abhorred his inheritance. (41) He gave them into the hand of the nations. Those who hated them ruled over them. (42) Their enemies also oppressed them. They were brought into subjection under their hand. (43) Many times he delivered them, but they were rebellious in their counsel, and were brought low in their iniquity. (44) Nevertheless he regarded their distress, when he heard their cry. (45) He remembered for them his covenant, and repented according to the multitude of his loving kindnesses. (46) He made them also to be pitied by all those who carried them captive. (47) Save us, LORD, our God, gather us from among the nations, to give thanks to your holy name, to triumph in your praise! (48) Blessed be the LORD, the God of Yisra'el, from everlasting even to everlasting! Let all the people say, "Amein." Praise the LORD!

Isa 40:21-31 HNV Haven't you known? Haven't you heard, yet? Haven't you been told from the beginning? Haven't you understood from the foundations of the earth? (22) It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in; (23) who brings princes to nothing; who makes the judges of the earth like meaningless. (24) They are planted scarcely. They are sown scarcely. Their stock has scarcely taken root in the ground. He merely blows on them, and they wither, and the whirlwind takes them away as stubble. (25) "To whom then will you liken me? Who is my equal?" says the Holy One. (26) Lift up your eyes on high, and see who has created these, who brings out their army by number. He calls them all by name. by the greatness of his might, and because he is strong in power, Not one is lacking. (27) Why do you say, Ya`akov, and speak, Yisra'el, "My way is hidden from the LORD, and the justice due me is disregarded by my God?" (28) Haven't you known? Haven't you heard? The everlasting God, the LORD, The Creator of the ends of the earth, doesn't faint. He isn't weary. His understanding is unsearchable. (29) He gives power to the weak. He increases the strength of him who has no might. (30) Even the youths faint and get weary, and the young men utterly fall; (31) But those who wait for the LORD will renew their strength. They will mount up with wings like eagles. They will run, and not be weary. They will walk, and not faint.

Zec 4:2-7 HNV He said to me, "What do you see?" I said, "I have seen, and behold, a menorah all of gold, with its bowl on the top of it, and its seven lamps thereon; there are seven pipes to each of the lamps, which are on the top of it; (3) and two olive trees by it, one on the right side of the bowl, and the other on the left side of it." (4) I answered and spoke to the angel who talked with me, saying, "What are these, my lord?" (5) Then the angel who talked with me answered me, "Don't you know what these are?" I said, "No, my lord." (6) Then he answered and spoke to me, saying, "This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbavel, saying, 'Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit,' says the LORD of Armies. (7) Who are you, great mountain? Before Zerubbavel you are a plain; and he will bring out the capstone with shouts of 'Grace, grace, to it!'"

Eph 1:15-23 HNV For this cause I also, having heard of the faith in the Lord Yeshua which is among you, and the love which you have toward all the holy ones, (16) don't cease to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers, (17) that the God of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him; (18) having the eyes of your hearts enlightened, that you may know what is the hope of his calling, and what are the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the holy ones, (19) and what is the exceeding greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to that working of the strength of his might (20) which he worked in Messiah, when he raised him from the dead, and made him to sit at his right hand in the heavenly places, (21) far above all rule, and authority, and power, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age, but also in that which is to come. (22) He put all things in subjection under his feet, and gave him to be head over all things for the assembly, (23) which is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all.

Rev 7:1-17 HNV After this, I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, so that no wind would blow on the earth, or on the sea, or on any tree. (2) I saw another angel ascend from the sunrise, having the seal of the living God. He cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was given to harm the earth and the sea, (3) saying, "Don't harm the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, until we have sealed the bondservants of our God on their foreheads!" (4) I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the children of Yisra'el: (5) of the tribe of Yehudah were sealed twelve thousand, of the tribe of Re'uven twelve thousand, of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand, (6) of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand, of the tribe of Naftali twelve thousand, of the tribe of Menasheh twelve thousand, (7) of the tribe of Shim`on twelve thousand, of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand, of the tribe of Yissakhar twelve thousand, (8) of the tribe of Zevulun twelve thousand, of the tribe of Yosef twelve thousand, of the tribe of Binyamin were sealed twelve thousand. (9) After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes, peoples, and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands. (10) They cried with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation be to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!" (11) All the angels were standing around the throne, the elders, and the four living creatures; and they fell on their faces before his throne, and worshiped God, (12) saying, "Amein! Blessing, glory, wisdom, thanksgiving, honor, power, and might, be to our God forever and ever! Amein." (13) One of the elders answered, saying to me, "These who are arrayed in white robes, who are they, and from where did they come?" (14) I told him, "My lord, you know." He said to me, "These are those who came out of the great tribulation. They washed their robes, and made them white in the Lamb's blood. (15) Therefore they are before the throne of God, they serve him day and night in his temple. He who sits on the throne will spread his tent over them. (16) They will never be hungry, neither thirsty any more; neither will the sun beat on them, nor any heat; (17) for the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne shepherds them, and leads them to springs of waters of life. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes."

We are called for YHWH's Purpose and not our own. What shall we do for our People who are called ISRAEL? We shall support those who are part of Israel whether they know it or not.

Shalom,

Tag

[Shamash Of Yeshua]

Here follows many sites I have found that support Israel:

Palestine Facts Organization (http://palestinefacts.org/index.php)

Israel Diplomatic Network (http://mfa.gov.il/mfm/web/main/default.asp?)

America's Voice in Israel (http://info.jpost.com/C002/Supplements/AmericasVoices/index.html)

Jewish Internet Association (http://jewishinternetassociation.org/)

Jewish-Issues (http://www.jewish-issues.com/)

Infoclick Organization (http://www.infoclick.org/)

IsraelNow and Forever (http://www.israelaustin.com/israelnow/default.asp)

Radio Bergen International (http://radiobergen.org/main2.html)

Haruth Communications TOC (http://www.haruth.com/HaruthSiteMap.htm)

IAC - Israel Action Center (http://www.iacnet.org/gateway.html)

Write On For Israel (http://www.writeonforisrael.org/index.html)

Israel Cool (http://www.israelcool.com/index.html)

BSKI Israel Web Site (http://www.e-bski.org/Israel.htm)

Israel Information Center (http://www.geocities.com/alyzab/IsraelInfo/index.html)

Isranews (http://www.isranews.com/indexe.htm)

Masada 2000 Organization (http://masada2000.org/)

Smooth Stone (http://smoothstone.blogspot.com/2003_07_27_smoothstone_archive.html)

Cyber CAJE - Israel Resources (http://www.caje.org/israel.htm)

Rebirth of Israel (http://www.bible-prophecy.com/israel.htm)

The Jewish Childrens Learning Network (http://www.akhlah.com/)

The Middle East Reality (http://mideastreality.com/english.html)

Think-Israel (http://www.think-israel.org/index.html)

Stand for Israel (http://www.standforisrael.org/default.asp)

OliveRoot Ministries - Whose Land is it? (http://www.oliveroot.net/whose_land.htm)

A Christian Witness of Psalm 83 (http://www.acwitness.org/psalm83.html)

Christian Action for Israel (http://christianactionforisrael.org/index.html)

I am sure that there are many more such sites.

Shalom,

Tag

[yod]

I go to discussion groups with the sole purpose of opposing Israel's enemies.

I wear an IDF t-shirt (I have 3)


I go to Israel and spend money until I'm broke


I sing and talk in churches all over America about the situation.


I have recorded the official music for the Christian Coalition's "Solidarity With Israel" campaign


Other than that.....I'm pretty lazy.



btw, it is impossible to be neutral about this. You are either on the side of Israel or helping the other side with your silence.


What fellowship hath darkness with light?

[MorphRC]

lol...

Anyway. I pray for HIS peace in Israel.

Not the peace that a paper will bring, nor any man.
Hmm more selfishness..maybe you should tell that to America..and see how long Israel stands against the arabs :D

[iitb]

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[Shamash Of Yeshua]

I use to support Israel in everyway..i bought T-Shirts with Zionist and Hebrew sayings and walked around during the weekend with them and handing out notices and newsletters for Peace in Israel. That was until i met a lot of arrogant and selfish jews..which really hurt me, especially with all the effort i was putting in and my friends!.

After the bigotist encounters i stopped supporting Israel..i pray there will be peace there..but only so the Christian shrines and so forth will be protected. I use to care for the jews and i still do in a way since Christ commands us to love one another..but i dont respect them anymore :cry: .

I was a hardcore religious and political zionist for the jews..i figured there would be no way the Church could control the country to protect our shrines and churches..so i decided to support the Jews instead of the Muslims which would have certainly destroyed everything jewish and christian. But now i am no longer a Zionist or a Israeli supporter..i love the Holy Land but i am neutral and i guess i will stay that way unless God or human shows me otherwise.The love of many waxes cold. Shall you be added to the great drift that takes an individual off the path of Hardcore Religiousness and Political Harnessing. I Hope and Pray that you my Brother in Abraham first then Brother in http://www.yhwh.com/Ahyh/ahyh0007.gif YHWH, Blessed be HIS NAME, our Father in Heaven and Our Lamb Adoni Our King http://www.yhwh.com/yhswh1.gif Yahoshuah HaMashiach through the Ruach of YHWH. The three are ONE in Spirit. Yet I can't gather Yahushuah HaMashiach being YHWH. Too much Scripture says otherwise. Yahushuah doesn't know the Time or the Hour of His OWN RETURN and only http://www.yhwh.com/Ahyh/ahyh0007.gif YHWH.
And for that matter
YHSWH said, About the Mitzvot (Instructions of http://www.yhwh.com/Ahyh/ahyh0007.gif ).

Yahshua YHSWH has said about the Torah and the Prophets in the following B'rit Khadashah scripture:

The Good News According to Matthew

5:17 "Don't think that I came to destroy
the Torah or the Prophets.
I didn't come to destroy,
but tofulfill.
18 For most certainly,
I tell you,
until Heaven and earth pass away,
not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke
shall in any way pass away from the Torah,
until all things are accomplished.
19 Whoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments,
and teach others to do so,
shall be called least in the
Kingdom of Heaven;
but whoever shall do and teach them
shall be called great in the
Kingdom of Heaven.
20 For I tell you that unless
your righteousness
exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees,
there is no way you will enter into the
Kingdom of Heaven.




When a person wants to LOVE YHWH more then the WORLD then they will have begun a journey of LIFE. LIFE in being that the person is helping edify His/Her Brothers and Sisters whether OR not they are Blind to the Truth of what ever they are Blinded to.

I tell you that can be hard when two sided truths are brought to bear. Just remember Philippians 3:1-4:23



Philippians 3:1 Finally, my brothers, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not tiresome, but for you it is safe. 2 Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision. 3 For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, and rejoice in Messiah Yeshua, and have no confidence in the flesh; 4 though I myself might have confidence even in the flesh. If any other man thinks that he has confidence in the flesh, I yet more: 5 circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; concerning the law, a Pharisee; 6 concerning zeal, persecuting the assembly; concerning the righteousness which is in the law, found blameless. 7 However, what things were gain to me, these have I counted loss for Messiah. 8 Yes most certainly, and I count all things to be loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Messiah Yeshua, my Lord, for whom I suffered the loss of all things, and count them nothing but refuse, that I may gain Messiah 9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own, that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Messiah, the righteousness which is from God by faith; 10 that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, becoming conformed to his death; 11 if by any means I may attain to the resurrection from the dead. 12 Not that I have already obtained, or am already made perfect; but I press on, if it is so that I may take hold of that for which also I was taken hold of by Messiah Yeshua. 13 Brothers, I don't regard myself as yet having taken hold, but one thing I do. Forgetting the things which are behind, and stretching forward to the things which are before, 14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the high calling of God in Messiah Yeshua. 15 Let us therefore, as many as are perfect, think this way. If in anything you think otherwise, God will also reveal that to you. 16 Nevertheless, to the extent that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule. Let us be of the same mind. 17 Brothers, be imitators together of me, and note those who walk this way, even as you have us for an example. 18 For many walk, of whom I told you often, and now tell you even weeping, as the enemies of the cross of Messiah, 19 whose end is destruction, whose god is the belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who think about earthly things. 20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from where we also wait for a Savior, the Lord Yeshua the Messiah; 21who will change the body of our humiliation to be conformed to the body of his glory, according to the working by which he is able even to subject all things to himself

4:1 Therefore, my brothers, beloved and longed for, my joy and crown, so stand firm in the Lord, my beloved. I exhort Euodia, and I exhort Syntyche, to think the same way in the Lord. 3 Yes, I beg you also, true yokefellow, help these women, for they labored with me in the Good News, with Clement also, and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life. 4 Rejoice in the Lord always! Again I will say, Rejoice! 5 Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand. 6 In nothing be anxious, but in everything, by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God. 7 And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your thoughts in Messiah Yeshua. 8 Finally, brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are honorable, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report; if there is any virtue, and if there is any praise, think about these things. 9 The things which you learned, received, heard, and saw in me: do these things, and the God of peace will be with you. 10 But I rejoice in the Lord greatly, that now at length you have revived your thought for me; in which you did indeed take thought, but you lacked opportunity. 11 Not that I speak in respect to lack, for I have learned in whatever state I am, to be content in it. 12 I know how to be humbled, and I know also how to abound. In everything and in all things I have learned the secret both to be filled and to be hungry, both to abound and to be in need. 13 I can do all things through Messiah, who strengthens me. 14 However you did well that you shared in my affliction. 15 You yourselves also know, you Philippians, that in the beginning of the Good News, when I departed from Macedonia, no assembly shared with me in the matter of giving and receiving but you only. 16 For even in Thessalonica you sent once and again to my need. 17 Not that I seek for the gift, but I seek for the fruit that increases to your account. 18 But I have all things, and abound. I am filled, having received from Epaphroditus the things that came from you, a sweet-smelling fragrance, an acceptable and well-pleasing sacrifice to 19 My God will supply every need of yours according to his riches in glory in Messiah Yeshua. 20 Now to our God and Father be the glory forever and ever! Amen. 21 Greet every holy one in Messiah Yeshua. The brothers who are with me greet you. 22 All the holy ones greet you, especially those who are of Caesar's household. 23 The grace of the Lord Yeshua the Messiah be with you all. Amen.

I was really thinking of Ephesians 4:1-6:23


Ephesians 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner in the Lord, beg you to walk worthily of the calling with which you were called, 2 with all lowliness and humility, with patience, bearing with one another in love; 3 being eager to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as you also were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one immersion, 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all, and through all, and in us 7 But to each one of us was the grace given according to the measure of the gift of Messiah. 8 Therefore he says, "When he ascended on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts to men. 9 Now this, "He ascended," what is it but that he also first descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He who descended is the one who also ascended far above all the heavens, that he might fill all things. 11 He gave some to be emissaries; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, shepherds and teachers; 12 for the perfecting of the holy ones, to the work of serving, to the building up of the body of Messiah; 13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a full grown man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Messiah; 14 that we may no longer be children, tossed back and forth and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in craftiness, after the wiles of error; 15 but speaking truth in love, we may grow up in all things into him, who is the head, Messiah; 16 from whom all the body, being fitted and knit together through that which every joint supplies, according to the working in measure of each individual part, makes the body increase to the building up of itself in love. 17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you no longer walk as the rest of the Gentiles also walk, in the futility of their mind, 18 being darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the hardening of their hearts; 19 who having become callous gave themselves up to lust, to work all uncleanness with greediness. 20 But you did not learn Messiah that way; 21 if indeed you heard him, and were taught in him, even as truth is in Yeshua: 22 that you put away, as concerning your former way of life, the old man, that grows corrupt after the lusts of deceit; 23 and that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind, 24 and put on the new man, who in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of truth. 25 Therefore, putting away falsehood, speak truth each one with his neighbor. For we are members of one another. 26 "Be angry, and don't sin." Don't let the sun go down on your wrath, 27 neither give place to the devil. 28 Let him who stole steal no more; but rather let him labor, working with his hands the thing that is good, that he may have something to give to him who has need. 29 Let no corrupt speech proceed out of your mouth, but such as is good for building up as the need may be, that it may give grace to those who hear. 30 Don't grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, outcry, and slander, be put away from you, with all malice. 32 And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving each other, just as God also in Messiah forgave you.

5:1 Be therefore imitators of God, as beloved children. 2 Walk in love, even as Messiah also loved you, and gave himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling fragrance. 3 But sexual immorality, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not even be mentioned among you, as becomes holy ones; 4 nor filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not appropriate; but rather giving of thanks. 5 Know this for sure, that no sexually immoral person, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the Kingdom of Messiah and 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words. For because of these things, the wrath of God comes on the children of disobedience. 7 Therefore don't be partakers with them. 8 For you were once darkness, but are now light in the Lord. Walk as children of light, 9 for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth, 10 proving what is well pleasing to the Lord. 11 Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather even reprove them. 12 For the things which are done by them in secret, it is a shame even to speak of. 13 But all things, when they are reproved, are revealed by the light, for everything that reveals is light. 14 Therefore he says, "Awake, you who sleep, and arise from the dead, and Messiah will shine on you." 15 Therefore watch carefully how you walk, not as unwise, but as wise; 16 redeeming the time, because the days are evil 17 Therefore don't be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is. 18 Don't be drunken with wine, in which is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit, 19 speaking to one another in psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs; singing, and singing praises in your heart to the Lord; 20 giving thanks always concerning all things in the name of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah, to God, even the Father; 21 subjecting yourselves one to another in the fear of Messiah. 22 Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, and Messiah also is the head of the assembly, being himself the savior of the body. 24 But as the assembly is subject to Messiah, so let the wives also be to their own husbands in everything 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Messiah also loved the assembly, and gave himself up for it; 26 that he might sanctify it, having cleansed it by the washing of water with the word, 27 that he might present the assembly to himself gloriously, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28 Even so husbands also ought to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself. 29 For no man ever hated his own flesh; but nourishes and cherishes it, even as the Lord also does the assembly; 30 because we are members of his body, of his flesh and bones 31 "For this cause a man will leave his father and mother, and will be joined to his wife. The two will become one flesh" 32 This mystery is great, but I speak concerning Messiah and of the assembly. 33 Nevertheless each of you must also love his own wife even as himself; and let the wife see that she respects her husband.

6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2 "Honor your father and mother," which is the first commandment with a promise: 3"that it may be well with you, and you may live long on the earth." 4 You fathers, don't provoke your children to wrath, but nurture them in the discipline and instruction of the Lord. 5 Servants, be obedient to those who according to the flesh are your masters, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as to Messiah; 6 not in the way of service only when eyes are on you, as men pleasers; but as servants of Messiah, doing the will of God from the heart; 7 with good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men; 8 knowing that whatever good thing each one does, he will receive the same again from the Lord, whether he is bound or free. 9 You masters, do the same things to them, and give up threatening, knowing that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no partiality with him. 10 Finally, be strong in the Lord, and in the strength of his might. 11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world's rulers of the darkness of this age, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore, put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and, having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having the utility belt of truth buckled around your waist, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having fitted your feet with the preparation of the Good News of peace; 16 above all, taking up the shield of faith, with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the evil one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the spoken word of God; 18 with all prayer and requests, praying at all times in the Spirit, and being watchful to this end in all perseverance and requests for all the holy ones: 19 on my behalf, that utterance may be given to me in opening my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the Good News, 20 for which I am an ambassador in chains; that in it I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak. 21 But that you also may know my affairs, how I am doing, Tychicus, the beloved brother and faithful servant in the Lord, will make known to you all things; 22 whom I have sent to you for this very purpose, that you may know our state, and that he may comfort your hearts. 23 Peace be to the brothers, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Yeshua the Messiah. 24 Grace be with all those who love our Lord Yeshua the Messiah with incorruptible love. Amen.


Now where do we go from here...

May the Peace that Transcends all Understanding be with you,

Tag

[yod]

do your fingers get tired?

LOL

[blessed2]

I'd really like this thread to be kept up top.
I'd like to fill it up with info on how to support Israel.

[blessed2]

http://www.christianforums.com/images/quotes/quot-by-left.gifOriginally Posted by: Morpheus_Anubis http://www.christianforums.com/images/quotes/quot-by-right.gifhttp://www.christianforums.com/images/quotes/quot-top-right-10.gifI use to support Israel in everyway..i bought T-Shirts with Zionist and Hebrew sayings and walked around during the weekend with them and handing out notices and newsletters for Peace in Israel. That was until i met a lot of arrogant and selfish jews..which really hurt me, especially with all the effort i was putting in and my friends!.

After the bigotist encounters i stopped supporting Israel..i pray there will be peace there..but only so the Christian shrines and so forth will be protected. I use to care for the jews and i still do in a way since Christ commands us to love one another..but i dont respect them anymore :cry: .

I was a hardcore religious and political zionist for the jews..i figured there would be no way the Church could control the country to protect our shrines and churches..so i decided to support the Jews instead of the Muslims which would have certainly destroyed everything jewish and christian. But now i am no longer a Zionist or a Israeli supporter..i love the Holy Land but i am neutral and i guess i will stay that way unless God or human shows me otherwise.hmmmm..... can I just adress this further.
I hope "poster" of this will recieve it with an open heart and not with offense.

This is a question that we all must ask of ourselves.
"Are you a kisser or a clinger".
A "kisser" gives lip service to a righteous stand, but when faced with adversity quickly runs in the opposite direction.
A "Clinger", assumes the righteous stand and when faced with adversity digs in thier heels and clings to righteousness in the face of all.
May the L-rd fortify and strengthen us to dig in our heels....to cling to you with all of our strength....
Let not the words or actions of the few move our feet from that which we know to be right.
Shall we be so easily removed by the mere arrogance and negativity of others? Can this small thing as hurt feelings turn us from our course?
Our love for one another nor our obedience should ever depend on the actions of others but in our submission to the will of G-d and our love for H-m.

[cleopa_of_emmaus]

www.magendavidadom.org (http://www.magendavidadom.org)

MDA always needs support and donations.

~cleopa

[brentsbaby612]

The love of many waxes cold. Shall you be added to the great drift that takes an individual off the path of Hardcore Religiousness and Political Harnessing. I Hope and Pray that you my Brother in Abraham first then Brother in YHWH, Blessed be HIS NAME, our Father in Heaven and Our Lamb Adoni Our King Yahoshuah HaMashiach through the Ruach of YHWH. The three are ONE in Spirit. Yet I can't gather Yahushuah HaMashiach being YHWH. Too much Scripture says otherwise. Yahushuah doesn't know the Time or the Hour of His OWN RETURN and only YHWH.
And for that matter
YHSWH said, About the Mitzvot (Instructions of ).

Hey Tag! Glad to see you back! How have you be buddy?:D

I go to discussion groups with the sole purpose of opposing Israel's enemies.

I wear an IDF t-shirt (I have 3)

I would like to get some zionist T-shirts!!!!:)


do your fingers get tired?

LOL

^_^ just what I was wondering!

[Henaynei]

www.magendavidadom.org (http://www.magendavidadom.org/)

MDA always needs support and donations.

~cleopa
Omeyn.....

Know that while the Red Cross does allow the Red Cresent (the Arabic Red "cross") to be a member of the International Red Cross, it will not allow the MaganDovid Adom (the Israeli Red 'cross") to be member. So monies you give to the Red Cross in no way impact the MaganDovid Adom - you must give directly to the MDA if you what to assist with their needs and services!

[Henaynei]

Hey - check THIS out - a relatively easy way to get to visit Israel AND **give** back to her where she needs it the most!! To serve Israel in joy and humility!!

www.sar-el.org (http://www.sar-el.org)

[Henaynei]

This thread is now moved and made a Sticky in the IP&CE MJ subforum.

It will remain here as long as it stays true to purpose - info on ways to support Israel and *does not* become a debate thread.

b'Shalom
Henaynei
Moderator
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[Henaynei]

how about this!!

Am Yisrael Chai - in arabic so EVERYONE can read it!! On you hat, or tee-shirt or sweatshirt..... go for it!!

http://www.rokemneedlearts.com/proudzionist/

[ShirChadash]

how about this!!

Am Yisrael Chai - in arabic so EVERYONE can read it!! On you hat, or tee-shirt or sweatshirt..... go for it!!

http://www.rokemneedlearts.com/proudzionist/
I'm seriously liking that, Henny!

[Henaynei]

I'm seriously liking that, Henny!
LOL - I guess so - you've added it to your sig!!! GO for it!!! Yeah!!

[BarbB]

Hey - check THIS out - a relatively easy way to get to visit Israel AND **give** back to her where she needs it the most!! To serve Israel in joy and humility!!

www.sar-el.org (http://www.sar-el.org)

Sar-El was the tour company who organized the trip to Israel I went on. They are nothing less that FANTASTIC! Yes, I'm shouting! :D I would go again in a heartbeat!

[Elrond52]

I think the strongest way to support Isreal is just to pray for them and Areial Sharon
It is that easy
Just trust God

[Henaynei]

I think the strongest way to support Isreal is just to pray for them and Areial Sharon
It is that easy
Just trust GodCertainly prayer comes first, during and last, always...... and yet

Ya'acov (James) 2 states:
14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone claims to have faith but has no actions to prove it? Is such "faith" able to save him? 15 Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food, 16 and someone says to him, "Shalom! Keep warm and eat hearty!" {That is pray for him and trust G-d to meet his needs} without giving him what he needs, what good does it do?

Are not each one of us the hands and feet of G-d. Is it not through our willingness to be moved to action that G-d accopmplishes meeting the needs of all His people???

[goy]

I go to discussion groups with the sole purpose of opposing Israel's enemies.

I wear an IDF t-shirt (I have 3)


I go to Israel and spend money until I'm broke


I sing and talk in churches all over America about the situation.


I have recorded the official music for the Christian Coalition's "Solidarity With Israel" campaign


Other than that.....I'm pretty lazy.



btw, it is impossible to be neutral about this. You are either on the side of Israel or helping the other side with your silence.


What fellowship hath darkness with light?

TED!!!!!!!! :wave:

Fancy meeting you here!!!!!!

Thanx so much for your Messianic nite at CLC last Sunday evening! :clap:

In case u still wonder who I am: u forced me to draw your moustache and beard on your poster b4 you'd autograph it.

me.

[Andrew]

About 1,500 members from my church visited Israel from Nov 03 to Jan 04. We left every Sat in batches of 120. I was in the last batch which left on Jan 24.

We flew El-Al and the tour itenary was set by Sar El Tours.

My wife and I, including my brother, his fiance and a good friend thoroughly enjoyed ourselves there. The food was excellent! and it was everything we dreamed of!

On coming back, my office/dept was going to produce a newspaper supplement on some travel fair. The editor of the supplement got my wife to write about the trip and I design the 2 pages.

It was published. Sar El Tours saw the work and was most delighted. Later, they came to Singapore for some talk on Jewish food at a hotel. They got my wife to do a simple 20 min presentation to all the local tour agencies about her trip to Israel.

Sar El was happy with the presentation so was my Pastor. Whenever I get a chance, I'd tell people about Israel.

We certainly look forward to visiting Israel again. Can't wait to go back!

Please see our photos here:

http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/andrewtanwb/album?.dir=/b32b

shalom shalom!

[BarbB]

Andrew - your photos are fantastic. I want to go back and stay!!!!!

[Andrew]

And you will be back one day newlamb!

btw: I have a little funny video clip of me blowing the shofar. Yes I bought one, lugged it all the way back, and made sure I could produce a decent sound out of it!

Check out the QuickTime clip here:

http://sg.geocities.com/saltandlight55/shofardemo.mov

[vanshan]

We can pray for the salvation of the Jewish people through Christ. This is more important than their nationality, safety, or any other temporal concern. No reason to fear those who can only injure your body, they should be concerned more with the coming judgement. We can pray for peace though.

Basil

[ShirChadash]

Certainly prayer comes first, during and last, always...... and yet

Ya'acov (James) 2 states:
14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone claims to have faith but has no actions to prove it? Is such "faith" able to save him? 15 Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food, 16 and someone says to him, "Shalom! Keep warm and eat hearty!" {That is pray for him and trust G-d to meet his needs} without giving him what he needs, what good does it do?

Are not each one of us the hands and feet of G-d. Is it not through our willingness to be moved to action that G-d accopmplishes meeting the needs of all His people???
This post warrants repeating, Henny. Ditto.

[ShirChadash]

Looking for places to contribute to right now... considering the Awesome Days we are currently in. I am checking the links listed already on this thread; does anyone have more to add, here?

This one from Aish.com looks good too.

http://www.meirpanim.org/

[ShirChadash]

Seems to me it was... but I thought it worth posting on this thread in particular.


http://www.onejerusalem.org/petition.asp?referrer=aish02

PETITION
We believe that Jerusalem, under the sovereignty of the State of Israel is as free and open a city as any in the world.

For more than three decades Jerusalem has been the united capital of the State of Israel, the Israeli government has acted as guardian of the holy sites - respecting the rights of all religious groups and guaranteeing access for all - Christians, Jews and Muslims. Israel's record in this regard speaks for itself. It stands in sharp contrast to the situation that was created in 1948 at the time of Israel's founding, when Jerusalem was forcibly divided as a result of the invasion of Arab armies. From 1948-1967, Jews, Israeli Arabs both Christians and Muslims were denied access to holy sites. Religious persecution led to desecration and destruction. This must never be allowed to recur.

We believe that Israel has upheld its moral and ethical obligations to the people of the world and has earned the right to retain sovereignty over all of Jerusalem, according to the present boundaries. Moreover, we believe that Israel's decision, as a free and democratic nation, to designate a united and undivided Jerusalem as its capital, should be respected and recognized by the entire international community.










:amen:

[ShirChadash]

One of my favorite songs, that seems to be running through my head so much these days, since Elul began, quotes Isaiah 40...

I love to use it as part of my prayers for Isra'el during this time and thought I would share it here.


Nachamu Ami (Isaiah 40:1-2)

Nachamu, nachamu ami
Nachamu, nachamu ami
Dab'ru al lev Yerushalayim
ki-ru eleyha ki malah tziva'ah
ki nirtzah avonah
ki lak-cha miyad Adonai
kiflayim bkhol-khatoteyha
Nachamu, nachamu ami

Comfort my people
Comfort my people
Speak tender words to Jerusalem
This is what you shall say to them:
Your hard work has been done
Your atonement is won
You've received from My Hand twice for all you've done
Comfort my people

Steve and Sue McConnell

[Ixoye2372]

When you read the Old Testament you may gain a greater understanding of how and why many Jewish peoples' hearts are still in a 'hardened' condition towards God. Don't be too hard on the arrogant ones you happen to encounter, those are the ones who need your heartfelt prayers the most. God is your rewarder, not the Jewish people. Focus on God with a soft and compassionate heart towards His beloved people and HE will reward you richly!

[bluejeans]

When you read the Old Testament you may gain a greater understanding of how and why many Jewish peoples' hearts are still in a 'hardened' condition towards God. Don't be too hard on the arrogant ones you happen to encounter, those are the ones who need your heartfelt prayers the most. God is your rewarder, not the Jewish people. Focus on God with a soft and compassionate heart towards His beloved people and HE will reward you richly!
:wave: You are very wise indeed,and you must have got this information
from God,amen.
may God be gracious to you,in Jesus's sweet name,amen.

[OneGirlArmy]

I went to Israel this summer. Everyone should go there if they have the opportunity. The tourism is nearly nonexistant and the economy could use our money.
I also pray for Israel.
I talk to my friends at my high school about it. I encourage people to pray.

[Andrew]

My church has set up a travel arm/agency just for tours to Israel.

This was necess bcos the tourism board in our country could not give our church a "special licence" to run these non-profit tours anymore, so we had to set up a proper agency.

For the past few years, we've been going in big groups. The pastoral team/leaders just left for a 2-week trip last Sun. Then, from Nov to Jan, there will be batches of 120 departing every weekend. We use Sar-El Tours (highly recommended!).

We go there for a great time, seeing all the Bilical sites and buying up all sorts of souvenirs.

My wife and I went this year in Jan. Was the best trip ever!

You are welcome to view our holiday pixs here:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/andrewtanwb/album?.dir=/b32b

We plan to go again, sometime next year perhaps.

Here's a cool interactive map of Israel:
http://www.eyeonisrael.com/

Bible prophecy regarding Israel (comprehensive site):
http://www.aboutbibleprophecy.com/

Billye Brim's prophecy watch regarding Israel:
http://www.billyebrim.org/ProphecyWatch.htm

[chava]

It is good to see some of my people are on these forums. Pray for Israel and you support them more than any other thing that you can do for them.

[Humble_Paladin]

Though I too have been offended a couple of times in the past by statements made by Jews towards Christianity, I still support them and I still support Israel. I also wear an IDF t-shirt on occasion, and have a "I Support the IDF" bumper sticker on my car.

I oppose the muslims because I have no respect for their religion. I oppose the palestinians because the land of Israel belongs to the Jews and no other.

I pray for the wisdom, salvation, and love of Jesus upon all of Israel, that all there would be saved and know true peace.

[BarbB]

We went to this photography studio on a small Christian artists' trip to Israel this month. The photos are artful and absolutely gorgeous. The photographer's father is Vendyl Jones who was the model for Indiana Jones. He's a hoot.

Anyway, check out the photos, which are for sale.

galeriamax.com (http://www.galeriamax.com/)

[kofh2u]

We went to this photography studio on a small Christian artists' trip to Israel this month. The photos are artful and absolutely gorgeous. The photographer's father is Vendyl Jones who was the model for Indiana Jones. He's a hoot.

Anyway, check out the photos, which are for sale.

galeriamax.com (http://www.galeriamax.com/)


Great!
You are an example to the whole of Christianity. After the mosque was built, in 690 AD, the door to the Promised Land was slammed shut.
Attempts to free up this holiest of Christian sites for pilgrimages during the Middle Ages failed. War is not the answer, but tourism is.

Christians need to love the poor, unemployed, exploited and propagandized Palestinian people with direct contact and patronizing of hospitality facilities in West Bank Bethleham, for instance. Peace will come this way, not that the 144,000 US soldiers right there now doesn't help this too.

The Christians don't realize anymore than the Jews, that each has only half of the master's plan for salvation. The marriage of Judaism, grafted back into Judaism and visa versa is essential to the edification of both.

Ezekiel 37.

[armyman_83]

I was thinking about joinning their army, or should I say the IDF, since they only have a "defense force". But seeing as how they are kicking their own people out (not all are doing this, but Sharon is being foolish! and lame) I would rather fight along the settlers anyday. I was thinking about joinning the Masad (sp?) as well, May the LORD show me His way!

[kofh2u]

I was thinking about joinning their army, or should I say the IDF, since they only have a "defense force". But seeing as how they are kicking their own people out (not all are doing this, but Sharon is being foolish! and lame) I would rather fight along the settlers anyday. I was thinking about joinning the Masad (sp?) as well, May the LORD show me His way!



Isa. 60:8 Who are these that fly as a cloud (from the Americas), and as the doves (of peace) to their (cathedral) windows (if NOT the Christians)?

Isa. 60:9 Surely the isles (of the New World) shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first (from Western Europe), to bring thy sons (of Abraham) from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the LORD, (YVHV), thy God, (the Word of scripture), and to the Holy One of Israel, (Jesus), because he hath glorified thee (in Christianity).

Isa. 60:10 And the sons of strangers (from the Americas) shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister peace unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee (in Holocaust), but in my favour (restoring my chosen to Israel) have I had mercy on thee.

[armyman_83]

Thanks for that post!

[kofh2u]

Thanks for that post!



Isa. 60:3 And the Gentiles (of Christianity) shall come to thy enlightenment (O'Israel), and kings (of political rule) to the brightness of thy (nation's) rising.

Isa. 60:4 Lift up thine eyes you people of Israel round about, and see: all, (the 1.44 billion Christians), they gather themselves together, they come to thee (in the Promised Land): thy sons (of the Diaspora) shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side (from 1948 forever).

Isa. 60:5 Then, thereafter, thou shalt see (these hoards of Christianity, and ye O'Israel), flow together (with them), and thine heart shall fear (the truth of Christ in your conversion), and be enlarged (in understanding of scripture); because the abundance of the sea (of unconscious realizations) shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles, (now Christians, 1.44 billions in number), shall come unto thee.

Isa. 60:6 The multitude of (their) camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah (Jordan of today) ; all they from Sheba shall come (to pilgrimage in the Holy Land): they shall bring gold and incense (and economic prosperity); and they shall show forth the praises of the LORD.

Isa. 60:7 All the flocks (of the Palestinian immigrants from Gaza) of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of (the West Bank) Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory, (the House of Israel and the House of Judah).

[ILY]

MorphRC said,

I use to support Israel in everyway..i bought T-Shirts with Zionist and Hebrew sayings and walked around during the weekend with them and handing out notices and newsletters for Peace in Israel. That was until i met a lot of arrogant and selfish jews..which really hurt me, especially with all the effort i was putting in and my friends!

Oh dear me, you mean a Jew is arrogant?! Wow how dare they I mean I guess they are supposed to be the only perfect people on earth?! That's ridiculous!

Sure you will meet some who are, and some who want nothing to do with Christians, especially when some who claimed to be Christians were responsible for the deaths of roughly 6,000,000 of their people in something we know as the holocaust!

After the bigotist encounters i stopped supporting Israel..i pray there will be peace there..but only so the Christian shrines and so forth will be protected. I use to care for the jews and i still do in a way since Christ commands us to love one another..but i dont respect them anymore .

I was a hardcore religious and political zionist for the jews..i figured there would be no way the Church could control the country to protect our shrines and churches..so i decided to support the Jews instead of the Muslims which would have certainly destroyed everything jewish and christian. But now i am no longer a Zionist or a Israeli supporter..i love the Holy Land but i am neutral and i guess i will stay that way unless God or human shows me otherwise.

What was Yeshua's race? If you said He was Jewish you get an A+++! Was that a mistake? Not a chance friend! Are we to hold our Jewish brethren to a standard we cannot uphold ourselves, in that I mean perfection! I have met many an arrogant Christian in my life, and have no doubt acted as such at one time or another, but I do know better to condemn a whole race of people based on the actions of a few!

Particularly a race chosen from all others to bring a light to others from Torah to Messiah IMHO!

That now being out of my system, I continousley pray for the shalom of Jerusalem and the Jews forever, and everyone!

IMHO we should support Israel especially in this dark hour!

Bless you all friends and brethren in Yeshua Ha Masaich

ILY

[kofh2u]

MorphRC said,



Oh dear me, you mean a Jew is arrogant?! Wow how dare they I mean I guess they are supposed to be the only perfect people on earth?! That's ridiculous!

Sure you will meet some who are, and some who want nothing to do with Christians, especially when some who claimed to be Christians were responsible for the deaths of roughly 6,000,000 of their people in something we know as the holocaust!



What was Yeshua's race? If you said He was Jewish you get an A+++! Was that a mistake? Not a chance friend! Are we to hold our Jewish brethren to a standard we cannot uphold ourselves, in that I mean perfection! I have met many an arrogant Christian in my life, and have no doubt acted as such at one time or another, but I do know better to condemn a whole race of people based on the actions of a few!

Particularly a race chosen from all others to bring a light to others from Torah to Messiah IMHO!

That now being out of my system, I continousley pray for the shalom of Jerusalem and the Jews forever, and everyone!

IMHO we should support Israel especially in this dark hour!

Bless you all friends and brethren in Yeshua Ha Masaich

ILY



Zech. 12:9** And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations (of political and/or theological persuasions) that come against Jerusalem.
Zech. 12:10** And I will pour upon the house of David, (Christianity, Rev 5:5) and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, (the Jews), the spirit of grace and of supplications: and (the rabbi), they shall look upon me (Rev 22:4) whom they have pierced, (Ps 22), and they shall mourn for him, (Jesus), as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Zech. 12:11** In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon, (because of the armageddon of understanding).
Zech. 12:12** And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David, (Christians), apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan, (those who handed Jesus up), apart, and their wives apart;
Zech. 12:13** The family of the house of Levi, (the Cohanim), apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei, (the Rabbi of today), apart, and their wives apart;
Zech. 12:14** All the families (of the twelve tribes of Israel) that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

[IsraelChrist]

I have a friend I met in Israel who collects stones from around the Holy Land so that people from all over the world can join him in sharing a piece of the land of Christ. He sells the stones every once in awhile on ebay. Keep looking for him. Right now he has one up from the Judean Hills.

[IsraelChrist]

sorry, it would not let me put a link up of his current things for sale, but if you are interested his name is sedafel on ebay and you can just search for the holy land stones he is currently selling

[Bethshaya]

Plant a tree in Israel
http://www.israelsharvest.com/plant_a_tree_in_israel.htm

[IsraelChrist]

thats also a good way of helping Israel. anything you can do to help Israel grow and live, either by planting a tree or bringing back parts of Israel to help you remember and love the Holy Land will help fulfill God's prophecies

[IsraelChrist]

Keep looking

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[Trish1]

Hi I want to help Israel:wave:

[Trish1]

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[Trish1]

I support Israel alot:prayer: