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Wags
28th December 2007, 04:57 PM
The mezuzah’s purpose is to remind us of the commandments of the Torah every time we pass by it. This is the context of the mezuzah verses in Deuteronomy. Moses urges us to “fear the Lord your God, to keep all His statutes and His commandments which I command you, all the days of your life” (Deuteronomy 6:2). It is the same way with all the physical symbols of Torah.

The world is constantly moving away from godliness. This is a daily struggle for every man and woman of faith. Diligence and focus are much-needed characteristics for our walk. Every day we see images that do not project godliness and that entice us away from Torah. From billboards to magazine covers to TV commercials, we are flooded with images of immorality, frivolousness and materialism. We need visible reminders to point us back to the path of Torah and to combat these negative influences.Check out this video (http://ffoz.org/resources/books/mezuzah.html?zoom_highlight=mezuzah) on the mezuzah from FFOZ.

Torah
28th December 2007, 05:56 PM
Very good Wags. There is nothing like a visual reminder to keep G-ds word in the forefront of our minds and life.:wave: :clap: :amen:

Lulav
30th December 2007, 04:07 AM
These are even better, you can see the actual words :)


(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=12&u=11701883)

HephzibahBenJudah
31st December 2007, 02:42 AM
These are even better, you can see the actual words :)


(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=12&u=11701883)
Those are neat! The Mezuzahs had OT scriptures in them. I wonder if there is such a thing as a Mezuzah with NT scripture in them?
I personally don't have a Mezuzah although I've lived in places that Orthodox Jews had just moved out of and saw the marks on the doorposts of where the Mezuzahs had been.
WHen I see a Mezuzh, I am reminded of the Apostle Pauls' statement in 2 Corinthians
"2Cr 3:3 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=2Cr&chapter=3&verse=3&version=kjv#3) [Forasmuch as ye are] manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart."

And also of King David statement in the Psalms.

Psa 119:11 (http://cf.blb.org/search/getBible.cfm?b=Psa&c=119&v=11&version=NKJV#11) Your word I have hidden in my heart, That I might not sin against You.


Thanks for sharing...I am reminded again.

Henaynei
31st December 2007, 03:12 AM
These are even better, you can see the actual words :)


(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=12&u=11701883)?? URL ??

ChavaK
31st December 2007, 12:44 PM
There are several issues with that type of mezuzah case.
First, the klaf is rolled wrong. It should be rolled so
that the letter are on the inside of the klaf, and not
exposed as shown in the photo.
Two, some poskim say you should not have the
shin daled yud exposed if in public areas; you have
to check with your rabbi. The klaf should be
encased in a covering-such as wax paper-
although some say it is okay to leave it
uncovered if in a glass case. Again, check with
your rabbi.
Third, I would not use that kind of case outside;
it has the potential to cause damage to the letters on
the klaf if there is a humidity problem. I would
would be worried with just a cork seal that
that could be a problem. Also sun exposure
could cause problems either of the shin
daled yud or the rest of the klaf if you roll
it inside out as in the photo.
Lastly, make sure you have your klaf checked
twice every seven years to make sure it is
still kosher.....one damaged or faded letter means
it needs replacing. ( Of course, make sure
it is hand written by a sofer, and not a
photocopy.... :)

Lulav
31st December 2007, 08:10 PM
?? URL ??There was an attached thumbnail, you couldn't see it?

Lulav
31st December 2007, 08:16 PM
There are several issues with that type of mezuzah case.
First, the klaf is rolled wrong. It should be rolled so
that the letter are on the inside of the klaf, and not
exposed as shown in the photo.
Two, some poskim say you should not have the
shin daled yud exposed if in public areas; you have
to check with your rabbi. The klaf should be
encased in a covering-such as wax paper-
although some say it is okay to leave it
uncovered if in a glass case. Again, check with
your rabbi.
Third, I would not use that kind of case outside;
it has the potential to cause damage to the letters on
the klaf if there is a humidity problem. I would
would be worried with just a cork seal that
that could be a problem. Also sun exposure
could cause problems either of the shin
daled yud or the rest of the klaf if you roll
it inside out as in the photo.
Lastly, make sure you have your klaf checked
twice every seven years to make sure it is
still kosher.....one damaged or faded letter means
it needs replacing. ( Of course, make sure
it is hand written by a sofer, and not a
photocopy.... :)If you were referring to the one I posted chavak, those are made for inside use. :) The copy of a scroll is used in there to show how it would look. I think the artist leaves it up to the purchaser to add their own kosher scroll. Now I understand that it is unOrthodox to have it reading out where you can see the words, and not only that but that you can even see there is a scroll to start with. But it helps to eliminate what many a Rabbi has discovered when doing an inspection of the mezuzot in someones house, that there isn't a scroll in there to start with! ;)

These were created by a Messianic artist who was told by HaShem to not hid his words.

And HephzibahBenJudah, there is a version which contains the traditional scriptures as well as some pertinent ones from the NT. :) If you would like to get in touch with the artist, just pm me and I'll give you the address.

Tishri1
1st January 2008, 09:32 AM
These are even better, you can see the actual words :)


(http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=12&u=11701883)that was beautiful:wave:

christinepro
1st January 2008, 02:11 PM
Awesome! Have any of you ever taken the HaYesod course from FFOZ?

ChavaK
1st January 2008, 03:30 PM
that it is unOrthodox to have it reading out where you can see the words....

But if you are going to follow part of Oral Law concerning
mezuzot.....why not follow all of it? :scratch:


just wondering....
:wave:

Tishri1
1st January 2008, 03:32 PM
I did 10 years ago it was great!!!Awesome! Have any of you ever taken the HaYesod course from FFOZ?

Lulav
3rd January 2008, 04:15 PM
But if you are going to follow part of Oral Law concerning
mezuzot.....why not follow all of it? :scratch:


just wondering....
:wave:Because some believe following HaShem supersedes anything else? :)

These were created by a Messianic artist who was told by HaShem to not hide his words.

Henaynei
3rd January 2008, 08:46 PM
Because some believe following HaShem supersedes anything else? :)

Quote:
These were created by a Messianic artist who was told by HaShem to not hide his words.
and just HOW do we know that G-d told him?? because he said so??? and how does that differ from anything passed on to us by the Rabbis?? after all G-d told them too....

examples of "G-d told me ...."
1) I knew a couple who adamantly told their congregation that they *knew* their next child was going to be a boy, because G-d told them ... you guessed it - the child was a girl ... did the couple repent?? NO - they "spiritualized" it to make it sound ok ....

2) I knew a man who had violated a law and was charged with a felony. Some people in his congregation went to him the told him not to worry G-d had told them that he was not going to prison.... you guessed it, he indeed went to prison... they didn't apologize or repent either ....

3) there was a man in the 1980's who went about on national Christian programs saying the Messiah was returning on Rosh-Hash-Ana of that year... some of you oldies but goodies might remember Edgar Whisenaunt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_C._Whisenant)--( About (http://www.isitso.org/guide/whise.html)88 Reasons Why the Rapture Could Be in 1988 (http://www.isitso.org/guide/whise.html) ).... he was quite the prophetic sensation in many large circles of believers, Christian believers (he responded to any who challenged him... "Only if the Bible is in error am I wrong; and I say that to every preacher in town." ) and people had gone around for so long telling each other "G-d has said this" and "G-d has said that" that they were totally unable to tell snake oil from pure water.... did Yeshua return that year? no! Was he (or his defenders) chagrined or deterred? NO! Neither were most of the people who listened to him .... he just said he got it wrong, it was going to be the next year.... and then the next.... and the next ..... this went on for until about 1995 before people quit listening to him.... but great damage was already done ....


I admit that I have become fairly jaded and wary over my 30 servant years of anything that "G-d told [anyone]." These are invariably unprovable and even when they prove to be wrong people never apologize or repent ... they just spiritualize it and twist it and make it so the other guy is just not mature or spiritual enough to "get it." FWIW it is spiritual poison and deception as I understand scripture. These people set themselves up as prophets and yet would be aghast if anyone suggested stoning them when their "predictions" that "G-d told" them turn out to be dead wrong or at the least pitiful self delusion ....

D'varim 18:19 And whoever will not give heed to my words which he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.' 21 And if you say in your heart, 'How may we know the word which the L-RD has not spoken?' -- 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the L-RD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word which the L-RD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you need not be afraid of him.


D'varim 13
1 If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them," 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The L-rd your G-d is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the L-rd your G-d you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the L-rd your G-d, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the L-rd your G-d commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.

We willingly desentisize ourselves to the Truth and to Evil/Lies and we teach the young to hear with the same ears ... this will bode well for the coming false leader, for we excuse falsehood now to avoid appearing to judge someone and we will not be able to discern falsehood then and will have lost the facility to judge .... I have seen over and over the statement "G-d told me...." shut down dissension, challenge and disbelief - after all how does one prove G-d didn't say.... it becomes a case of spiritual Emperor's New Clothes... "and no one spoke up and said that they did not see the Emperor's beautiful clothes for they were afraid of....."

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cmmsdm/smilies/bruce_h4h.gif
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ok - I be quiet now .....

dvd_holc
4th January 2008, 12:51 PM
question, has anyone heard about the signs on the doorpost being a cultural reminder of specifically the covenant? I can't remember where I heard it...but I think there is something from history about threshold covenants having signs on the door way?

A_Pioneer
4th January 2008, 02:37 PM
and just HOW do we know that G-d told him?? because he said so??? and how does that differ from anything passed on to us by the Rabbis?? after all G-d told them too....

examples of "G-d told me ...."
1) I knew a couple who adamantly told their congregation that they *knew* their next child was going to be a boy, because G-d told them ... you guessed it - the child was a girl ... did the couple repent?? NO - they "spiritualized" it to make it sound ok ....

2) I knew a man who had violated a law and was charged with a felony. Some people in his congregation went to him the told him not to worry G-d had told them that he was not going to prison.... you guessed it, he indeed went to prison... they didn't apologize or repent either ....

3) there was a man in the 1980's who went about on national Christian programs saying the Messiah was returning on Rosh-Hash-Ana of that year... some of you oldies but goodies might remember Edgar Whisenaunt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_C._Whisenant)--( About (http://www.isitso.org/guide/whise.html)88 Reasons Why the Rapture Could Be in 1988 (http://www.isitso.org/guide/whise.html) ).... he was quite the prophetic sensation in many large circles of believers, Christian believers (he responded to any who challenged him... "Only if the Bible is in error am I wrong; and I say that to every preacher in town." ) and people had gone around for so long telling each other "G-d has said this" and "G-d has said that" that they were totally unable to tell snake oil from pure water.... did Yeshua return that year? no! Was he (or his defenders) chagrined or deterred? NO! Neither were most of the people who listened to him .... he just said he got it wrong, it was going to be the next year.... and then the next.... and the next ..... this went on for until about 1995 before people quit listening to him.... but great damage was already done ....


I admit that I have become fairly jaded and wary over my 30 servant years of anything that "G-d told [anyone]." These are invariably unprovable and even when they prove to be wrong people never apologize or repent ... they just spiritualize it and twist it and make it so the other guy is just not mature or spiritual enough to "get it." FWIW it is spiritual poison and deception as I understand scripture. These people set themselves up as prophets and yet would be aghast if anyone suggested stoning them when their "predictions" that "G-d told" them turn out to be dead wrong or at the least pitiful self delusion ....

D'varim 18:19 And whoever will not give heed to my words which he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.' 21 And if you say in your heart, 'How may we know the word which the L-RD has not spoken?' -- 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the L-RD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word which the L-RD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you need not be afraid of him.


D'varim 13
1 If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them," 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The L-rd your G-d is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the L-rd your G-d you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the L-rd your G-d, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the L-rd your G-d commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.

We willingly desentisize ourselves to the Truth and to Evil/Lies and we teach the young to hear with the same ears ... this will bode well for the coming false leader, for we excuse falsehood now to avoid appearing to judge someone and we will not be able to discern falsehood then and will have lost the facility to judge .... I have seen over and over the statement "G-d told me...." shut down dissension, challenge and disbelief - after all how does one prove G-d didn't say.... it becomes a case of spiritual Emperor's New Clothes... "and no one spoke up and said that they did not see the Emperor's beautiful clothes for they were afraid of....."

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cmmsdm/smilies/bruce_h4h.gif
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cmmsdm/smilies/soapbox.gif

ok - I be quiet now .....
LOL
I remember a famous man of God saying on a tape message about 2007 at Rosh ha Shahnah, rapture would occur! You guessed it, we're still here and he hasn't repented nor apologised!
No name calling, but he is famous for 700 Club.

Don't let any-one muffle you, Hen!

Good one.

Shalom

Tea
4th January 2008, 08:23 PM
I was wondering if someone could tell me what is written on the scroll that goes in one.
I have been looking, but can't find a translation.
Thankyou.
Tracey

Henaynei
4th January 2008, 09:24 PM
I was wondering if someone could tell me what is written on the scroll that goes in one.
I have been looking, but can't find a translation.
Thankyou.
TraceyDeuteronomy 6:4-9, plus Deuteronomy 11:13-21

D'varim (Deuteronomy) 6
4 "Sh'ma, Yisra'el! AD-NAI Eloheinu, AD-NAI echad [Hear, Isra'el! AD-NAI our G-d, AD-NAI is one]; 5 and you are to love AD-NAI your G-d with all your heart, all your being and all your resources. 6 These words, which I am ordering you today, are to be on your heart; 7 and you are to teach them carefully to your children. You are to talk about them when you sit at home, when you are traveling on the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them on your hand as a sign, put them at the front of a headband around your forehead, 9 and write them on the door-frames of your house and on your gates.

D'varim 11
13 "So if you listen carefully to my mitzvot which I am giving you today, to love AD-NAI your G-d and serve him with all your heart and all your being; 14 then, [says AD-NAI,] 'I will give your land its rain at the right seasons, including the early fall rains and the late spring rains; so that you can gather in your wheat, new wine and olive oil; 15 and I will give your fields grass for your livestock; with the result that you will eat and be satisfied.' 16 But be careful not to let yourselves be seduced, so that you turn aside, serving other gods and worshipping them. 17 If you do, the anger of AD-NAI will blaze up against you. He will shut up the sky, so that there will be no rain. The ground will not yield its produce, and you will quickly pass away from the good land AD-NAI is giving you.
18 Therefore, you are to store up these words of mine in your heart and in all your being; tie them on your hand as a sign; put them at the front of a headband around your forehead; 19 teach them carefully to your children, talking about them when you sit at home, when you are traveling on the road, when you lie down and when you get up; 20 and write them on the door-frames of your house and on your gates - 21 so that you and your children will live long on the land AD-NAI swore to your ancestors that he would give them for as long as there is sky above the earth.

Judaism 101: Signs and Symbols (http://www.jewfaq.org/signs.htm)

Mezuzah: God's Word on the Doorpost (http://www.religionfacts.com/judaism/things/mezuzah.htm)

http://www.mezuzahstore.com/images/12cmaripic.jpg
Mezuzah (http://www.judaica-guide.com/mezuzah/)
http://www.judaica-guide.com/images/Mezuzah-02.jpg

Tea
4th January 2008, 09:36 PM
Beautiful, thankyou Henny, I was thinking that it must have been something similar.
T