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GSJ1967
28th December 2007, 09:26 AM
Good morning all!

What is it that other denominations, like Evengelical or Baptists disagree with Lutherans on? Is it just baptism, or is it something else? Just curious...

filosofer
28th December 2007, 10:04 AM
Howdy.

Faith
Baptism/Lord's Supper/Means of Grace
Original Sin
Syncretism
Church
Ministry
How to properly divide Law and Gospel
Two Kingdoms

and a few others ;)

GSJ1967
28th December 2007, 10:10 AM
Howdy.

Faith
Baptism/Lord's Supper/Means of Grace
Original Sin
Syncretism
Church
Ministry
How to properly divide Law and Gospel
Two Kingdoms

and a few others ;)



is that all? LOL

LutheranChick
28th December 2007, 11:03 AM
In more layman's terms, I think one of the major differences (yes, there are more, I agree) besides baptism is the thought that people have some responsibility for their own salvation.

This brought a question of my own to mind - does anyone know if there are other denominations that believe, as the conservative Lutherans do - that we can do absolutely nothing to bring about our salvation - that it is soley by the grace of God that we are saved?

filosofer
28th December 2007, 11:07 AM
Conservative Presbyterian groups... unfortunately they tie it into limited atonement (Christ died only for the sins of those going to heaven)

GSJ1967
31st December 2007, 01:31 PM
What do other demoninations disagree about concerning the Sacrement?

MarkRohfrietsch
31st December 2007, 04:22 PM
What do other demoninations disagree about concerning the Sacrement?

With few exceptions, most other protestant and reformed denominations do not believe that the Sacraments are means of grace, that they give forgiveness of sins, and in the case of Holy Communion, they do not accept the belief that we receive the true body and blood of Christ when we partake of the bread and wine.

GSJ1967
31st December 2007, 05:02 PM
With few exceptions, most other protestant and reformed denominations do not believe that the Sacraments are means of grace, that they give forgiveness of sins, and in the case of Holy Communion, they do not accept the belief that we receive the true body and blood of Christ when we partake of the bread and wine.
so what do they think the Sacrament is for?

LilLamb219
31st December 2007, 05:08 PM
so what do they think the Sacrament is for?

A memorial meal is what I've heard them merely declare it as being. :sigh:

MarkRohfrietsch
31st December 2007, 05:30 PM
Purely symbolic, just a remembrance, same with baptism, symbolic of a spiritual re-birth.

Calvinists coined the phrase "hocus pocus" as a bastardization of the words of our Lord "Hoc est Corpus Meum" "this is My body" to mock not only our Catholic brothers, but especially us Lutherans.

They use "reason" to interpret Scripture, and therefore reason that since Christ ascended into Heaven bodily, that his physical body can't be in two places at once. God, being omnipotent can do what ever he wants, when ever he wants according to Scripture. They missed that part I guess.:scratch:

Likewise with Confession and Absolution. They argue that only God can forgive sins. Yet we are commanded to forgive sins in Scripture, and Scripture tells us that it is God doing it through his servants hear in the temporal world. They missed that one too.:scratch:

GSJ1967
2nd January 2008, 09:27 AM
I just don't understand it (why others interpet different ways)...but I guess that's an age-old problem isnt it?

If Scripture says it to be so, how can it be interpeted another way? :scratch: I know this is a nieve thought...but..arrrgh..how?? LOL
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