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HeatherMicaela
27th December 2007, 06:01 AM
Hi all - its been a while:wave:

I am having another little baby - a girl:D

My dh and I are uniquie in that, knowing we wanted a large family, we thought about baby names before we were pregnant with the first. We ended up with 5 possible boy and 5 possible girl names.

Christina was named because I loved it since I was a (secular) little girl. And now, as a Messianic, I feel sort of self-concious to use in primary Jewish places - like when celebrating Hanukkah at the local mall or shopping at a Judaica store. So I tend to say "sweetie" to her in those situations.:o I tshouldn't matter, but I over analyse.

I know my congregation doesnt care, my dd came in with this name when we joined. But the next name on our list is Trinity. I think it is beautiful and it is also a distant family members name. Since I am outside mainstream Christianity, does this name seem odd? Do you think others in the congregation would have a problem with it? I do not want her picked on or anything.

And, yes, I overthink this stuff.^_^

Now

visionary
27th December 2007, 10:26 AM
I like the sound of the name and would think its a beautiful name for a girl if it wasn't so attached to the controversial theology.

Hope you have a boy next.

A_Pioneer
27th December 2007, 01:20 PM
If it were me who was choosing a name, I would not chose a name that would be a problem with people that I went to religious services with.
You never know when someone is going to ruin a good name.
My dd has had apparent problems with "Gaye."

Shalom

stone
27th December 2007, 01:44 PM
Hi all - its been a while:wave:

I am having another little baby - a girl:D

My dh and I are uniquie in that, knowing we wanted a large family, we thought about baby names before we were pregnant with the first. We ended up with 5 possible boy and 5 possible girl names.

Christina was named because I loved it since I was a (secular) little girl. And now, as a Messianic, I feel sort of self-concious to use in primary Jewish places - like when celebrating Hanukkah at the local mall or shopping at a Judaica store. So I tend to say "sweetie" to her in those situations.:o I tshouldn't matter, but I over analyse.

I know my congregation doesnt care, my dd came in with this name when we joined. But the next name on our list is Trinity. I think it is beautiful and it is also a distant family members name. Since I am outside mainstream Christianity, does this name seem odd? Do you think others in the congregation would have a problem with it? I do not want her picked on or anything.

And, yes, I overthink this stuff.^_^

Now

I think its a pretty name and would care less what anyone else thought of it.

A_Pioneer
27th December 2007, 02:10 PM
I think its a pretty name and would care less what anyone else thought of it.
You are right! But, unless you overlooked it, it seems to bother the HeatherMicaela!

muffler dragon
27th December 2007, 02:26 PM
Hi all - its been a while:wave:

I am having another little baby - a girl:D

Congratulations.

I know my congregation doesnt care, my dd came in with this name when we joined. But the next name on our list is Trinity. I think it is beautiful and it is also a distant family members name. Since I am outside mainstream Christianity, does this name seem odd? Do you think others in the congregation would have a problem with it? I do not want her picked on or anything. The truth of the matter is that any name can be made fun of; but it's what it means to you and your family that's important.

And, yes, I overthink this stuff.^_^

Now

The emboldened is what I find to be the most important. A couple other points:

1) "Trinity" is not just a designation for the Christian godhead. In the simplest of terms, it means three in unity.
2) I spend a lot of time thinking about what our unborn son's name is going to be, and I did the same with our daughter. Names mean a lot, IMO. If it's right to you and your husband; then ____ anyone who has a problem with your choice.

zaksmummy
27th December 2007, 04:14 PM
Its your baby, call her what you like.

I called by son Zak. A few people said "oh we used to have a dog called Zak"

My reply "my brother had a dog called Sam, but it doesnt stop people calling their kids Sam does it?"

Trinity is a lovely name, reminds me of the girl who kicked butt in the Matrix - she was a really cool girl - hope your baby takes after her.

Catrin xx

Bananna
27th December 2007, 04:44 PM
Our third child is named Trinity Anne.

The florest sent me a dozen roses red with three yellow because they ran out of red. I kind of took that as a confirmation for the name for this child at the time.

Trinity was once a man's name. The new Movie hit Matrix has since made it a popular name. We really tried to pick unique names for out children that are not often heard. We avoided family members names being repreated.

Congratulations.

Bananna

Lulav
27th December 2007, 05:02 PM
Hi all - its been a while:wave:

I am having another little baby - a girl:D

My dh and I are uniquie in that, knowing we wanted a large family, we thought about baby names before we were pregnant with the first. We ended up with 5 possible boy and 5 possible girl names.

Christina was named because I loved it since I was a (secular) little girl. And now, as a Messianic, I feel sort of self-concious to use in primary Jewish places - like when celebrating Hanukkah at the local mall or shopping at a Judaica store. So I tend to say "sweetie" to her in those situations.:o I tshouldn't matter, but I over analyse.

I know my congregation doesnt care, my dd came in with this name when we joined. But the next name on our list is Trinity. I think it is beautiful and it is also a distant family members name. Since I am outside mainstream Christianity, does this name seem odd? Do you think others in the congregation would have a problem with it? I do not want her picked on or anything.

And, yes, I overthink this stuff.^_^

NowIt is good to be prudent and look at things from all angels. :)

Hmm,you think that using your daughters name of Christina would make Jews uncomfortable? I really don't think it would. Christopher Columbus is thought to have been a Jew, there are also those in my family that took on that name, of Christian, Christ, etc just to save lives ( and he does save does he not?) so I don't think that would be a problem, I would be concerned with the name Trinity as the meaning is seen by many Jews as believing in more than one G-d. It also seems very Christian more so than Christina to me, and will defiantly make you stand out around the Jewish crowd.

Did you pick this name from the Matrix by any chance?

Instead of using names preconceived why not pray and ask G-d to give you discernment about what kind of child this will be and have him give you a name that embodies that?

Lulav
27th December 2007, 05:05 PM
I think its a pretty name and would care less what anyone else thought of it.

A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favor rather than silver and gold ~ Proverbs 22:1

Bananna
27th December 2007, 05:16 PM
I've definitely been sorry we did not give our third child a bible name like the rest.

I prefer the Hebrew names by far. Our last... Aviyah is the spelling from the complete Jewish bible for a couple of a righteous king and a righteous queen. I think the kjv translated it Abiajah. There are many beautiful names listed in the histories and geneologies. I also looked into some phrases and words translated into Hebrew.

We always check out what the biblical character was associated with before choosing.

bananna

Lulav
27th December 2007, 06:44 PM
I've definitely been sorry we did not give our third child a bible name like the rest.

I prefer the Hebrew names by far. Our last... Aviyah is the spelling from the complete Jewish bible for a couple of a righteous king and a righteous queen. I think the kjv translated it Abiajah. There are many beautiful names listed in the histories and geneologies. I also looked into some phrases and words translated into Hebrew.

We always check out what the biblical character was associated with before choosing.

bananna Aviyah or Abiyah means G-d is my Father. It is also the name of the eighth course of priests serving in the temple. Zechariah, Johns father belonged to this course. :)

Lulav
27th December 2007, 06:45 PM
I personally like the name Avigdor, Avigdor means "the father of the one who established boundaries" for the Jewish people.

In this sense, Avigdor is traditionally one of the names of Moses

:)

christianmomof3
27th December 2007, 08:52 PM
:hug: Congratulations! When are you due? How many children do you have so far?
I think that if you like the name Trinity then use it.
I am Jewish and it never occured to me that the name Christina would have anything to do with being a Christian.
I don't think anyone would be bothered by the name.
It is in accordance with Jewish tradition to name our children after deceased loved ones.
All of my children are named after family members.
My oldest dd is named Mary, which probably sounds more Catholic than Jewish, but it was my mother's name and I think it is a beautiful name and that is what I named her.
I did like the name Joseph and my mother-in-law's middle name is Josephine and I considered that name for my son briefly but decided against having my children be named Mary and Joseph. :D

HeatherMicaela
27th December 2007, 08:53 PM
Thank you - This will be my fourth child

visionary
27th December 2007, 11:25 PM
:hug: Congratulations! When are you due? How many children do you have so far?
I think that if you like the name Trinity then use it.
I am Jewish and it never occured to me that the name Christina would have anything to do with being a Christian.
I don't think anyone would be bothered by the name.
It is in accordance with Jewish tradition to name our children after deceased loved ones.
All of my children are named after family members.
My oldest dd is named Mary, which probably sounds more Catholic than Jewish, but it was my mother's name and I think it is a beautiful name and that is what I named her.
I did like the name Joseph and my mother-in-law's middle name is Josephine and I considered that name for my son briefly but decided against having my children be named Mary and Joseph. :DMary and Joseph... :D talk about Hosea.ing the call of children to the family table for supper.

Bananna
28th December 2007, 03:36 AM
Thank you - This will be my fourth child

Then again it looks like it will be your third girl.

Bananna

Tonks
28th December 2007, 06:13 AM
Blame it on the Matrix. :)

visionary
28th December 2007, 10:41 AM
You know the name will probably be shortened to "trin"

Bananna
28th December 2007, 03:06 PM
The little ones pronounce it Tinni. Hard time with Tr sound.

We do call her Trin occasionally.

Bananna

HeatherMicaela
28th December 2007, 04:18 PM
The little ones pronounce it Tinni. Hard time with Tr sound.

We do call her Trin occasionally.

Bananna

You *have* a trinity? If I remember you are non-trinitarian to, right

Then again it looks like it will be your third girl.

Thats right! Third = trinity:D


Blame it on the Matrix.
^_^ dh would love that. I didn't care for the movie

A friend suggested this as a nickname:
TIRA is from the Hebrew meaning ENCLOSURE or ENCAMPMENT, SMALL VILLAGE, VILLA, PALACE, HABITATION
or
TIRI is a variant form of TIRA

Bananna
28th December 2007, 06:13 PM
I guess it is a good thing I named her Trinity instead of Trinitarian. But hey it was my husband's choice. He is Trinitarian.

bananna

Tangeloper
28th December 2007, 08:04 PM
Names are hard! We ended up having four girls, so by the end we were running out of names! LOL

We were going to name a boy Joseph -- because it's my husband's middle name, his father's middle name, and his paternal Grandfather (Joseph) AND Grandmother's name (Josephine).

I truly believe G-d speaks to parents when they are considering names. Granted, with my first child I picked a name that was popular at the time. However, I have since discovered in just the last few weeks that both of my two youngest daughters names have Hebrew "roots". One being only a letter off from a Hebrew word that means Artist of G-d (hence her CF Screenname "GodsLittleArtist"), oh, and yes, she is a VERY talented artist, too! :)
It's strange because for the last two I don't remember where the names "came from". Just that we "felt" it was right for them... I would go with your gut feeling on your child's name, as I think G-d is involved when we are choosing. :)

Colabomb
28th December 2007, 09:17 PM
Christina was named because I loved it since I was a (secular) little girl. And now, as a Messianic, I feel sort of self-concious to use in primary Jewish places - like when celebrating Hanukkah at the local mall or shopping at a Judaica store. So I tend to say "sweetie" to her in those situations.:o I tshouldn't matter, but I over analyse.



Your faith makes you ashamed of your daughter's name?

What's wrong with the name Christina anyway?

HeatherMicaela
28th December 2007, 09:53 PM
Your faith makes you ashamed of your daughter's name?

What's wrong with the name Christina anyway?
The ashamed emotion was that I was ashamed I resort to "sweetie." The reason I do it is to avoid undu head turning and questions when I am in a Jewish environment. If I was dialoging with a Jew and they asked why I do Jewish things but am obviously not a Jew, I could have a great conversation about my love of Torah and hopefully dispell the idea that all "Chrisians" are Jew-haters. But when I am just at a local Hanukka celebration I just dont want to go into it

I am not ashamed at her name at all - but when I named her I had no idea that I would be part of a congregation in wich some people have some very personal hang up with "Christain" words. It is not an issue there - but I know many in my congregation who also end up going to Israel and reaching out to Jews there. I dont want her name to be a stumbling block if she chooses to do that when she grows up. That is why I am very prayerfully and thoughtfully condsidering Trinity rather than just using it becase it was on a 10 year old list.

But we are pretty sure we are going with Trinity anyway becaue of various positive responses I have gotten.

The good thing it had done has made us decide that the children need Hebrew names too. So we are thinking and ponderign those simultaneously.

I guess it is a good thing I named her Trinity instead of Trinitarian. But hey it was my husband's choice. He is Trinitarian.

^_^

Colabomb
28th December 2007, 10:10 PM
The ashamed emotion was that I was ashamed I resort to "sweetie." The reason I do it is to avoid undu head turning and questions when I am in a Jewish environment. If I was dialoging with a Jew and they asked why I do Jewish things but am obviously not a Jew, I could have a great conversation about my love of Torah and hopefully dispell the idea that all "Chrisians" are Jew-haters. But when I am just at a local Hanukka celebration I just dont want to go into it

I am not ashamed at her name at all - but when I named her I had no idea that I would be part of a congregation in wich some people have some very personal hang up with "Christain" words. It is not an issue there - but I know many in my congregation who also end up going to Israel and reaching out to Jews there. I dont want her name to be a stumbling block if she chooses to do that when she grows up. That is why I am very prayerfully and thoughtfully condsidering Trinity rather than just using it becase it was on a 10 year old list.

But we are pretty sure we are going with Trinity anyway becaue of various positive responses I have gotten.

The good thing it had done has made us decide that the children need Hebrew names too. So we are thinking and ponderign those simultaneously.


But what is wrong with being "Christian"? That is the name given to followers of the Christ. It is identification with Jesus of Nazareth.

I've seen Messianics argue that they are not Christian, why?

Henaynei
28th December 2007, 10:23 PM
Christina was named because I loved it since I was a (secular) little girl. And now, as a Messianic, I feel sort of self-concious to use in primary Jewish places - like when celebrating Hanukkah at the local mall or shopping at a Judaica store. So I tend to say "sweetie" to her in those situations.:o I tshouldn't matter, but I over analyse. not to worry dear one :) LOTS of Jewish folk have sons named Christopher ;) .... don't get caught over analysing, as you say :thumbsup: .... you'll be more likely to be known for your actions than by your daughter's name, don't risk making *her* self conscious about her own name :)

visionary
28th December 2007, 11:22 PM
But what is wrong with being "Christian"? That is the name given to followers of the Christ. It is identification with Jesus of Nazareth.

I've seen Messianics argue that they are not Christian, why?It has more to do with the association with the bad history that "christians" in their zeal have killed Jews. Since our ministry is to the Jews and we want to be identified with the Judaic flavor of the faith rather than the roman or greek version.

HeatherMicaela
30th December 2007, 02:09 AM
It has more to do with the association with the bad history that "christians" in their zeal have killed Jews. Since our ministry is to the Jews and we want to be identified with the Judaic flavor of the faith rather than the roman or greek version.
exactly. Unfortunately many horrible things have been done in the name of Christ. And while one can argue that those were not *true* christians (though I think some were) it nonetheless puts a bad taste in the mouth of those who's ancestors were victims of that.

Christos and messiah are the same. As a messianic - whether Jew or Gentile we are seeking to identify with and embrace the hebrew roots from which "Christianity" came - roots that had been forgetten or even deliberately ignored.


not to worry dear one LOTS of Jewish folk have sons named Christopher .... don't get caught over analysing, as you say .... you'll be more likely to be known for your actions than by your daughter's name, don't risk making *her* self conscious about her own name

I talked with various people at service today. One of the Jewish men in our congregation is a Chris which is short for....wait for it...CHRISTAIN...^_^ . No his parents were not practicing and I think that went back a couple of generations. I just found that funny.

And everyone said the name was just fine.

And FTR the over-analysis goes for bad nicknames kids will come up with and such too. I guess it is jsut mom worry.:P

Lulav
30th December 2007, 02:39 AM
So now you know of two Jews with the name Christian! ( you can make that three as my brother was named that also. ;)

Tishri1
30th December 2007, 04:00 AM
Congratulations.



The emboldened is what I find to be the most important. A couple other points:

1) "Trinity" is not just a designation for the Christian godhead. In the simplest of terms, it means three in unity.
2) I spend a lot of time thinking about what our unborn son's name is going to be, and I did the same with our daughter. Names mean a lot, IMO. If it's right to you and your husband; then ____ anyone who has a problem with your choice.
I agree and think its beautiful:hug: