How The Left Stole CHRISTmas

[Followers4christ]

It was the month before Christmas
When all through our land,
Not a Christian was praying
Nor taking a stand.

See the PC Police had taken away,
The reason for Christmas - no one could say.
The children were told by their schools not to sing,
About Shepherds and Wise Men and Angels and things.

It might hurt people's feelings, the teachers would say,
December 25th is just a "Holiday."
Yet the shoppers were ready with cash, checks and credit
Pushing folks down just to get it!

CDs from Madonna, an X-BOX, an I-pod.
Something was changing, something quite odd!
Retailers promoted Ramadan and Kwanzaa...
In hopes to sell books by Franken & Fonda.

As Targets and Wal-Mart were hanging their trees upside down,
At Lowe's the word Christmas - was no where to be found,
At K-Mart and Staples and Penny's and Sears -
You won't hear the word Christmas; it won't touch your ears.

Inclusive, sensitive, Di-ver-si-ty,
Are words that were used to intimidate me.
Now Daschle, Now Darden, Now Sharpton, Wolf Blitzen
On Boxer, on Rather, on Kerry, on Clinton!

At the top of the Senate, there arose such a clatter
To eliminate Jesus, in all public matter.
And we spoke not a word, as they took away our faith
Forbidden to speak of salvation and grace

The true Gift of Christmas was exchanged and discarded
The reason for the season, stopped before it started.
So as you celebrate "Winter Break" under your "Dream Tree"
Sipping your Starbucks, listen to me. ~ ~ ~

Choose your words carefully, choose what you say...
Shout MERRY CHRISTMAS to all, not happy holiday!

[tulc]

uhmmm ok. :)
tulc(a leftest who always says "Merry Christmas!" and celebrates Jesus birthday!) ;)

[ReformedChapin]

BAHAHA!! I love it!

:thumbsup:

[SolomonVII]

When I was young, the idea that wishing someone a Merry Christmas would be considered offensive in my society would have been inconceivable to me.
But now it is something we must consider before opening our mouths and saying Merry Christmas, or Happy Holidays.

That the times, they are a'changin' there is no doubt.

It makes sense that it is not the conservative right that is responsible for this kind of change.

So if not the Christian right, then who?

I think the poems title makes a fairly good assumption as to who is behind this push to push Christ out of the holidays.

[ladyt28]

I say Merry Christmas to everyone and have Never had a bad reaction.

[SolomonVII]

and yet store clerks are often admonished to say 'Happy Holidays' lest they offend.
As if even non-Christians and Hindus and Buddhists don't wish us exactly the same at this time of the year.

[rmw8855]

I have never had a bad reaction either. Sales people seem to enjoy it the most. It shows them that you care about them as a person instead of just a resource.

[SolomonVII]

Oh, I've had a bad reactions for sure just to wishing somebody a Merry Christmas, or to the idea that Christmas holiday at work shouldn't have anything to do with Christmas.

It is not as if the idea isn't out there, or the poem doesn't make any sense. Even my kids the other day were wondering if it was correct or not to wish someone Happy Holidays rather than Merry Christmas.

Where would they get those ideas if the ideas weren't already out there everywhere?

Like I say, it would have seem weird and strange for this to be the case when I was young, but now it is a part of the Christmas culture in broad swaths of our societies.

[ladyt28]

And what about the people who say "Happy Holidays" just to acknowledge New Years as well as Christmas?

[paxi1334]

Hope everyone here has Happy Holidays!

[SolomonVII]

And what about the people who say "Happy Holidays" just to acknowledge New Years as well as Christmas?
That's sweet.
Come December 26, I am back to greeting everyone with "Bah, humbug! ".

[SwirlingEd]

Good grief. Imagine all the Christians who are offended because someone says Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas... Just as irritating.

[SolomonVII]

It is more a question of being irritated because stores have policies in place where this is the required greeting and Merry Christmas is not allowed.

Other than the issue of being mandated to not say "Merry Christmas" instead of some other greeeting I am quite sure that not many Christians give a flying fiddler's fiddlestick about what a person chooses to say.

But I guess it's is a little hard for some people to grasp just what exactly is being said by the poem. Somehow, I am not surprised.

[Colabomb]

Eh, as long as they don't tell me i can't celebrate advent i don't care.

If walmart greeters want to say Happy Holidays whatever.

[SwirlingEd]

It is more a question of being irritated because stores have policies in place where this is the required greeting and Merry Christmas is not allowed.

Other than the issue of being mandated to not say "Merry Christmas" instead of some other greeeting I am quite sure that not many Christians give a flying fiddler's fiddlestick about what a person chooses to say.

But I guess it's is a little hard for some people to grasp just what exactly is being said by the poem. Somehow, I am not surprised.

Do you really think it's because they are trying to oppress you? Or do you think it might be because they have customers of many different faiths and belief systems, and as a money-making company, they are trying to make ALL their customers feel welcome so those customers will come back and SPEND MORE MONEY -- not just the ones who believe like you do?

Yes, I agree its a silly rule. But it's not some big ominous plot to remove God from retail stores.

And yes, the poem was quite complex....

[catlover]

It was the month before Christmas
When all through our land,
Not a Christian was praying
Nor taking a stand.

See the PC Police had taken away,
The reason for Christmas - no one could say.
The children were told by their schools not to sing,
About Shepherds and Wise Men and Angels and things.

It might hurt people's feelings, the teachers would say,
December 25th is just a "Holiday."
Yet the shoppers were ready with cash, checks and credit
Pushing folks down just to get it!

CDs from Madonna, an X-BOX, an I-pod.
Something was changing, something quite odd!
Retailers promoted Ramadan and Kwanzaa...
In hopes to sell books by Franken & Fonda.

As Targets and Wal-Mart were hanging their trees upside down,
At Lowe's the word Christmas - was no where to be found,
At K-Mart and Staples and Penny's and Sears -
You won't hear the word Christmas; it won't touch your ears.

Inclusive, sensitive, Di-ver-si-ty,
Are words that were used to intimidate me.
Now Daschle, Now Darden, Now Sharpton, Wolf Blitzen
On Boxer, on Rather, on Kerry, on Clinton!

At the top of the Senate, there arose such a clatter
To eliminate Jesus, in all public matter.
And we spoke not a word, as they took away our faith
Forbidden to speak of salvation and grace

The true Gift of Christmas was exchanged and discarded
The reason for the season, stopped before it started.
So as you celebrate "Winter Break" under your "Dream Tree"
Sipping your Starbucks, listen to me. ~ ~ ~

Choose your words carefully, choose what you say...
Shout MERRY CHRISTMAS to all, not happy holiday!


sorry, it's the capitalists who turned Christmas into buy, buy, buy who stole Christmas...so way to go right wing conservatives!

By the way you might as well KNOW what you are writing about when you slander liberals...most liberals drink "fairly traded" coffee..http://www.equalexchange.com/.evil mean stuff that empowers people, Heaven forbid!!!

[Colabomb]

*is getting REALLY SICK of persecution complexes*

[tulc]

I have a question about this line here:
At the top of the Senate, there arose such a clatter
To eliminate Jesus, in all public matter.
And we spoke not a word, as they took away our faith
Forbidden to speak of salvation and grace

I'm curious: who forbade you being able to speak of salvation and grace? And how did you losing your faith happen because of something someone else did? :scratch:
tulc(just wondering) :)

[SolomonVII]

Conservatives mostly don't post in these parts here anymore.
Just think of this thread as a little Christmas gift to the lefties, give y'all a place to congregate.

Happy Kwanza to all, and to all a gretat Winter Break!

[tulc]

Conservatives mostly don't post in these parts here anymore.
Just think of this thread as a little Christmas gift to the lefties, give y'all a place to congregate.
Ahhh! I get it now, I was wondering why it seemed so quiet around here. I thought everyone just got tired of the purges and decided to hang out where they didn't have to protect themselves from being accused of being leftest in disguise. :sorry:

Happy Kwanza to all, and to all a gretat Winter Break!
You celebrate Kwanzaa? :scratch: Well ok, happy Kwanzaa to you! :)
tulc(hopes your new year is blessed and filled with joy!) :wave:

[ladyt28]

Conservatives mostly don't post in these parts here anymore.
Just think of this thread as a little Christmas gift to the lefties, give y'all a place to congregate.

Happy Kwanza to all, and to all a gretat Winter Break!

I've got to say that I am very discouraged with the way the conservative forums have been treated since LeeD took over. I am not aware if other areas were also treated as such but to actually out an entire group "on probation" for 2 weeks is...is....well, it's just childish!! What's next, "double secret probation"? Good grief!:sigh:

[SolomonVII]

I've got to say that I am very discouraged with the way the conservative forums have been treated since LeeD took over. I am not aware if other areas were also treated as such but to actually out an entire group "on probation" for 2 weeks is...is....well, it's just childish!! What's next, "double secret probation"? Good grief!:sigh:
Conservatives fought for a forum in which liberals would not be able to swarm a thread at will.

For whatever reasons, that is not going to happen.

And as far as things running smoothly now, you gotta admit, things are a lot more smooth now in CC that conservatives left en masse.

But for the odd band of revellers dancing on the graves, CC is now as smooth as smooth as a well-groomed cemetery.

[MrJim]

Conservatives fought for a forum in which liberals would not be able to swarm a thread at will.

For whatever reasons, that is not going to happen.

And as far as things running smoothly now, you gotta admit, things are a lot more smooth now in CC that conservatives left en masse.

But for the odd band of revellers dancing on the graves, CC is now as smooth as smooth as a well-groomed cemetery.

well groomed cemetery describes it well~I was on the ground floor when this forum started~don't even know where every is anymore and don't recognize many of the posters here:sorry:

as long as ya keep in mind that management wants quiet forums with lots of clicks on the ads you'll do well ;)

As to the OP~nothing can seperate us from the love of God in Christ~"christmas" is a sorry way to celebrate the incarnation~the left can have it. We conservatives boast at being so "Bible-centered", frankly there is no biblical record of annual Jesus birthday celebrations~probably a reason why there was no official holiday/date inscribed in the scripture. So it's just something religious "men" invented and then we get our panties in a bunch when our invention isn't used "properly". Away with it!

...yeah i had tree and presents~i treat it as a civil holiday in our house, sorta like labor day with gifts.

[catlover]

*is getting REALLY SICK of persecution complexes*

Would you like a Christmas poem about Rush the pill popper Limbaugh? Or "Dr." Laura the porn star?

[catlover]

Conservatives fought for a forum in which liberals would not be able to swarm a thread at will.

For whatever reasons, that is not going to happen.

And as far as things running smoothly now, you gotta admit, things are a lot more smooth now in CC that conservatives left en masse.

But for the odd band of revellers dancing on the graves, CC is now as smooth as smooth as a well-groomed cemetery.

For some reason the conservatives swarm WWMC...

[MrJim]

Would you like a Christmas poem about Rush the pill popper Limbaugh? Or "Dr." Laura the porn star?

missed out on the Dr Laura nude thing~I have to get out more...

[Colabomb]

Would you like a Christmas poem about Rush the pill popper Limbaugh? Or "Dr." Laura the porn star?

I was referring to both sides. And I'm not fond of Rush, and I don't know Laura.

Please stop making assumptions.

[catlover]

missed out on the Dr Laura nude thing~I have to get out more...

....maybe you should thank your lucky stars. :D

[catlover]

I was referring to both sides. And I'm not fond of Rush, and I don't know Laura.

Please stop making assumptions.

The poem is making some assumptions about the left...the evil people from the left "stole" Christmas...

[SolomonVII]

[QUOTE]well groomed cemetery describes it well~I was on the ground floor when this forum started~don't even know where every is anymore and don't recognize many of the posters here:sorry:
About the same time I signed in, most all of the other conservatives signed out. If I really was suffering from a persecution complex, I might think that it was all about me.


as long as ya keep in mind that management wants quiet forums with lots of clicks on the ads you'll do well ;)

I can't rememeber ever clicking on an ad.


As to the OP~nothing can seperate us from the love of God in Christ~"christmas" is a sorry way to celebrate the incarnation~the left can have it.
The OP was a silly little poem, as far as I could see. It was good for a chuckle at the expense of the silliness of pc thinking, but not much else.

We conservatives boast at being so "Bible-centered", frankly there is no biblical record of annual Jesus birthday celebrations~probably a reason why there was no official holiday/date inscribed in the scripture.
There is no known birthday for Christ. Many Chruches set aside a day to celebrate the Incarnation of God into this world. But it could be any day, or everyday.
While the events of the liturgical year are based on events of the Bible, there is no liturgical year in the Bible. It is just a way of using cyclical time to remind us of the Gospel of Christ.

So it's just something religious "men" invented and then we get our panties in a bunch when our invention isn't used "properly". Away with it!
With all the expectations, Christimas has become as much about stress and irritation as much as anything else.
But the kids love it and after the presents are all opened and the expectations have crescendoed, the same feelings of depression creep in for them too.

The idea of 'a Child is born' remains as a consolation of what is truly meaningful about the celebration. If we can turn the depression into a positive experience through this memory of Christ's incarnation, the opportunity is not wasted.

It is for the most part a secular holiday now. Maybe it always was. But if it also affords an opportunity to evangelize to the secular world, as Christians, this is our commission.


...yeah i had tree and presents~i treat it as a civic holiday in our house, sorta like labor day with gifts

Sure, why not?
A "bah, humbug attitude" will get you nowhere.

[Colabomb]

The poem is making some assumptions about the left...the evil people from the left "stole" Christmas...

Like i said, i was commenting on BOTH sides.

You aren't helping your case here though.

[Topaz]

As Charlie Brown once said,

And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.

And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

Luke 2:14

[catlover]

Like i said, i was commenting on BOTH sides.

You aren't helping your case here though.

When do I ever help my case..?.:o

[SolomonVII]

As Charlie Brown once said,
Originally Posted by Charlie Brown
And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.

And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.


Luke 2:14
I thoughtit was Linus who made that speech?

[rrguy]

I would like to see more poems like that, hope you don't mind I posted it on other sites. There seems to be allot of people upset about the anti Christmas, but not sure what to do?

[tulc]

There seems to be allot of people upset about the anti Christmas, but not sure what to do?

,,,you could point out none of the true meaning of Christmas is affected by the faux "War on Christmas". :sorry:
tulc(just a thought) :)

[Colabomb]

Most Christians miss the meaning of Christmas anyway. Its not a birthday party.

It is a recognition of the Incarnation of our God, who came to Die for our Iniquity.

Holy Week should be the center of our calendar, not Christmas.

(Though I do enjoy Christmas, it is a blessed time of year)

[edb19]

Most Christians miss the meaning of Christmas anyway. Its not a birthday party.

It is a recognition of the Incarnation of our God, who came to Die for our Iniquity.

Holy Week should be the center of our calendar, not Christmas.

(Though I do enjoy Christmas, it is a blessed time of year)

My church really doesn't follow the "church calendar" - we celebrate the incarnation and resurrection every Lord's Day. We might add a Christmas song or two - but we sing them other times during the year also, so even then. . . .

[Colabomb]

My church really doesn't follow the "church calendar" - we celebrate the incarnation and resurrection every Lord's Day. We might add a Christmas song or two - but we sing them other times during the year also, so even then. . . .

As do we, in the Holy Sacrament.