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BGMCFAR
22nd December 2007, 11:33 PM
If you where not physically attracted to Chirst would you still love and follow him what if he wasn't this average or homely person in your eyes would you still follow him.:confused: Does physical appearance make a difference in how we believe?

Svt4Him
22nd December 2007, 11:51 PM
You are physically attracted to Christ? What does that mean?

BGMCFAR
23rd December 2007, 12:03 AM
I mean if you were physically attracted what if Jesus was not as you would picture Jesus . phsically I mean there are people we don't like because of physical appearance or would it even matter.

Followers4christ
23rd December 2007, 02:59 AM
Isaiah 53:2-5 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground.He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering.Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not.Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.

holo
23rd December 2007, 04:10 AM
IMO,
christianity traditionally portrays Jesus as a wussy long-haired hippie figure that looks gay and detached from the world, with his white robe and all. But when reading the gospels, He doesn't normally appear to be so distinguished physically. After all, He was able to hide in the crowd etc.

I've never really been attracted to that representation of Jesus, and it used to be a problem because I just assumed that Jesus was like the pictures of Him.

Shiversblood
23rd December 2007, 06:10 AM
He isn't portrayed as a Hippie that is 70s America, he is portrayed as a white Europe Medeval male. Hippies did not exist in medeval time. Jesus is white lookinh because white people in Europe would never worship someone who was dark skinned middleastern looking.

Svt4Him
23rd December 2007, 07:27 AM
I've never seen Jesus portrayed as being gay. But back to the OP, as a guy, I don't see myself physically attracted to Jesus. Sorry. I have great guy friends, and I find none of them physically attractive, but I'd give anything I could if one of them were in trouble. I tend to think of Jesus the same way, not in the female, lovey dovey type.

holo
23rd December 2007, 08:45 AM
To clarify:
I don't mean that people necessarily try to portray Jesus as gay, but that's often pretty much the result:


http://biblia.com/oracion/jesus-face-mercy.jpg

tturt
23rd December 2007, 08:53 AM
Someone who had studied pictures of Christ Jesus says that the paintings have physical characteristics of the group for which they're being painted.

As far as actual appearance - follower4Christ has already posted.

BGMCFAR
24th December 2007, 03:25 AM
Dear ones thank you very much Ilove your responses I think our love for Chirst is so great I don't believe it would make any difference. I thinklove over powers everything. I'm just thankful to be on Jesus sidewith all my heart

Skellington
24th December 2007, 03:52 AM
I've never really tried to picture Jesus. In my mind, His appearance doesn't matter, though I think "My Jesus" by Todd Agnew paints a really accurate picture of His personality.

Cris413
24th December 2007, 09:22 AM
Physical appearance, IMHO, has very little to do with beauty..

I would like to share an experience I had a few months ago...

The Lord wanted to spend some time with me...although I wasn't "struggling" with anything...there were some things weighing pretty heavy on my heart.

A lot of it had to do with several things I had read through this forum at the time...

The Lord led me to John...chapters 15-17...the experience reading through those chapters would be quite hard to describe in words...

The Lord spoke to my heart in such a personal way...as if He were speaking directly to me and calling me by name...

His beauty was so evident. So absolutely overwhelming I couldn't help but cry out how beautiful You are Lord...how is it that I never knew You are THIS beautiful!

I believe even the awesome beauty of Jesus Christ that I saw that day is only a mere speck compared to what it will be like when we see Him face to face one day.

I truly believe...beauty...is not something we take in with our eyes...

I don't think there is an artist rendition that can truly capture the beauty of Christ Jesus.

Shiversblood
25th December 2007, 05:10 PM
I don't think he is pysically attractive but I don't look at guys like that.

jive4005
25th December 2007, 09:46 PM
A wize old Southern Baptist Minister told me once... " it isn't important what Jesus looks like, any more than he cares what we look like!"

That is true and loving sight!


rev

GrannieAnnie
26th December 2007, 05:24 AM
I can remember seeing something many years ago that said in the early days of Christianity, Christ was not depicted as having a beard...but was clean shaven. He was Jewish, so I guess he looked pretty much like a normal Jewish man....whatever that's like....certainly I'd think not white skinned.

Going a bit further....I have met some very...unGodly looking people who I have found to just glow with the love of Christ...the radience of His love has burst forth from them.....beauty to me is a totally wholeness of personality....I hope that if I'd been alive when Christ walked on earth, that after hearing Him speak....I would follow Him...no matter what he looked like....

twistedsketch
26th December 2007, 06:05 AM
To clarify:
I don't mean that people necessarily try to portray Jesus as gay, but that's often pretty much the result:
Were you unfortunate enough to see the Jesus miniseries starring Joseph Finnes? They made him play a flower boy Jesus with way too much makeup, and they didn't follow the Scriptures at all when recounting His life. That was so bad, it was probably the final straw in moving Mel Gibson to produce The Passion.

zeke37
26th December 2007, 04:18 PM
He isn't portrayed as a Hippie that is 70s America, he is portrayed as a white Europe Medeval male. Hippies did not exist in medeval time. Jesus is white lookinh because white people in Europe would never worship someone who was dark skinned middleastern looking.
or, cause he was white....(research the name for Adam)


but that said....I fell in love with a Jesus who I really thought was Arabian in appearance...so I assumed...

also, I have a portrait of the head piece of the shroud of Turin, which (like a mickey mouse watch) changes with the angle looked upon, so that an artists rendition is visible at one angle, and a negative of the head piece of the shroud is visible at the other angle....


I believe this is where most get their idea of what Jesus looked like...from the shroud...

in His service
c

IisJustMe
26th December 2007, 07:46 PM
If you where not physically attracted to Chirst would you still love and follow him what if he wasn't this average or homely person in your eyes would you still follow him.:confused: Does physical appearance make a difference in how we believe?I don't believe my attraction was physical in the first place, but regardless, Isaiah wrote of Him in chapter 53, the second half of verse three in his book that "He has no stately form or majesty that we should look upon Him, Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him."

The attraction is His love, what He did for us on the cross about 1,977 and a half years ago. "Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends.". (John 15:15)We are His friends, as He told his closest disciples just two verses earlier, on the night before His death that " (http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3765)No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you." (John 15:13)

I believe we will be overwhelmed with His glory when we come face to face with Him, and will know we have seen no one so strikingly handsome, strong and virile-looking in our existence. But clothed in the flesh, Jesus was but a faint shadow of that glory. That was not His attraction. That was His message, and His purpose. It should be no one's purpose to "hook" the seeker with flash, appearance, and glitz, if it is not also accompanied by the simple truth that Jesus spoke.

ozell
26th December 2007, 08:20 PM
Jer 2:11 Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit.

all nations worship a god that looks like them.

it does matter what Jesus looks like.

He did not come as a roman, greek, ethiopian or asian
he came as a Israelite from the tribe of Judah.

Judah is a people they look like people.

IisJustMe
26th December 2007, 08:23 PM
Jer 2:11 Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit. all nations worship a god that looks like them. it does matter what Jesus looks like.If it mattered, why did Isaiah say as he said?He did not come as a roman, greek, ethiopian or asian he came as a Israelite from the tribe of Judah.Judah is a people they look like people.We are not talking ethnicity here. That was never part of the OP. All we are talking about is physical attractiveness, or lack thereof.

MoNiCa4316
27th December 2007, 03:09 AM
If you read about the people who've had visions of Christ, etc...they said He is very beautiful. But that is not why we love Him. His beauty goes beyond physical appearance...that is more important.

:)

Sunrise78
28th December 2007, 02:07 AM
Physical appearance, IMHO, has very little to do with beauty..

I would like to share an experience I had a few months ago...

The Lord wanted to spend some time with me...although I wasn't "struggling" with anything...there were some things weighing pretty heavy on my heart.

A lot of it had to do with several things I had read through this forum at the time...

The Lord led me to John...chapters 15-17...the experience reading through those chapters would be quite hard to describe in words...

The Lord spoke to my heart in such a personal way...as if He were speaking directly to me and calling me by name...

His beauty was so evident. So absolutely overwhelming I couldn't help but cry out how beautiful You are Lord...how is it that I never knew You are THIS beautiful!

I believe even the awesome beauty of Jesus Christ that I saw that day is only a mere speck compared to what it will be like when we see Him face to face one day.

I truly believe...beauty...is not something we take in with our eyes...

I don't think there is an artist rendition that can truly capture the beauty of Christ Jesus.

That's awesome, Cris ... He has spoken to me in this way before as well. The most recent time was in church when I was discouraged ... He might as well have been saying "I love you" directly to my soul.

I agree, it's the beauty of His character that draws us to Him ... I don't think physical appearance really will make much of a difference when we see Him face to face. I see His beauty even now without knowing or trying to speculate what He looks like.

"Though you have not seen Him, you love Him." (1 Peter 1:8a).

Cris413
28th December 2007, 10:22 AM
That's awesome, Cris ... He has spoken to me in this way before as well. The most recent time was in church when I was discouraged ... He might as well have been saying "I love you" directly to my soul.

I agree, it's the beauty of His character that draws us to Him ... I don't think physical appearance really will make much of a difference when we see Him face to face. I see His beauty even now without knowing or trying to speculate what He looks like.

"Though you have not seen Him, you love Him." (1 Peter 1:8a).

Blessings sister!

How wonderful it is we have such a personal and loving God!

It really is the beauty of His love. The glory of His Holiness...indescribable!

He knows us...personally...and He still loves us.

I wonder...what do we look like to Him?

I would imagine...without being covered by His righteousness...not good...not good at all.

Praise God...

Isa 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD,
My soul shall be joyful in my God;
For He has clothed me with the garments of salvation,
He has covered me with the robe of righteousness,
As a bridegroom decks himself with ornaments,
And as a bride adorns herself with her jewels.

IisJustMe
28th December 2007, 04:50 PM
Physical appearance, IMHO, has very little to do with beauty.. I would like to share an experience I had a few months ago... The Lord wanted to spend some time with me...although I wasn't "struggling" with anything...there were some things weighing pretty heavy on my heart. A lot of it had to do with several things I had read through this forum at the time... The Lord led me to John...chapters 15-17...the experience reading through those chapters would be quite hard to describe in words... The Lord spoke to my heart in such a personal way...as if He were speaking directly to me and calling me by name... His beauty was so evident. So absolutely overwhelming I couldn't help but cry out how beautiful You are Lord...how is it that I never knew You are THIS beautiful!

I believe even the awesome beauty of Jesus Christ that I saw that day is only a mere speck compared to what it will be like when we see Him face to face one day. I truly believe...beauty...is not something we take in with our eyes... I don't think there is an artist rendition that can truly capture the beauty of Christ Jesus.That passage has spoken to me in that very same way, Cris. It is simply the most awesome experience I've had in that respect, other than when I was really struggling last summer with my move to Colorado, whether I'd really heard the voice of God, how I was going about establishing my ministry and, unfortunately, falling into some old thought patterns that I knew were going to lead me to disaster. It was then I found Psalm 18:1-19, and it literally put me on my face crying tears of shame and joy at how much God loved me, how much He delights in me, even (as I say in my book that's about to be published) when I am undelightful. I saw the same beauty in that passage as I see in those three chapters of John. Those words were written not just to the Twelve, but to all of us. They were speaking to your heart and mine because they were written to us as well. God bless.

Cris413
28th December 2007, 08:20 PM
That passage has spoken to me in that very same way, Cris. It is simply the most awesome experience I've had in that respect, other than when I was really struggling last summer with my move to Colorado, whether I'd really heard the voice of God, how I was going about establishing my ministry and, unfortunately, falling into some old thought patterns that I knew were going to lead me to disaster. It was then I found Psalm 18:1-19, and it literally put me on my face crying tears of shame and joy at how much God loved me, how much He delights in me, even (as I say in my book that's about to be published) when I am undelightful. I saw the same beauty in that passage as I see in those three chapters of John. Those words were written not just to the Twelve, but to all of us. They were speaking to your heart and mine because they were written to us as well. God bless.

:amen: :hug:

ozell
29th December 2007, 10:42 AM
[quote=IisJustMe;41917799]If it mattered, why did Isaiah say as he said?

1Sam 16:7 But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.


Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.


1Jn 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.


We are not talking ethnicity here.
That was never part of the OP. All we are talking about is physical attractiveness, or lack thereof.

because of man's lust for outward beauty, ethnicity and physical attractiveness is related.

IisJustMe
29th December 2007, 12:08 PM
[quote]1Sam 16:7 But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.

Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

1Jn 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.Ozell, my friend, these verses speak against physical attraction to the Messiah, not for it. Blessed be

ozell
29th December 2007, 05:25 PM
[quote=ozell;42018718]Ozell, my friend, these verses speak against physical attraction to the Messiah, not for it. Blessed be

and since we are flesh we sometimes mind the things of flesh.

until we shed this flesh we are subject to the lust of the flesh.

in todays society as wells as past generations man has always looked upon the countenace of man.

there is no thing anew under the sun.

BGMCFAR
31st December 2007, 02:48 AM
Physical appearance, IMHO, has very little to do with beauty..

I would like to share an experience I had a few months ago...

The Lord wanted to spend some time with me...although I wasn't "struggling" with anything...there were some things weighing pretty heavy on my heart.

A lot of it had to do with several things I had read through this forum at the time...

The Lord led me to John...chapters 15-17...the experience reading through those chapters would be quite hard to describe in words...

The Lord spoke to my heart in such a personal way...as if He were speaking directly to me and calling me by name...

His beauty was so evident. So absolutely overwhelming I couldn't help but cry out how beautiful You are Lord...how is it that I never knew You are THIS beautiful!

I believe even the awesome beauty of Jesus Christ that I saw that day is only a mere speck compared to what it will be like when we see Him face to face one day.

I truly believe...beauty...is not something we take in with our eyes...

I don't think there is an artist rendition that can truly capture the beauty of Christ Jesus.
Cris I agree with how beautifully spoken It's the glory of Christ's Love that I've been attracted too. It wouldn't matter Becauses at a time in my life which on mt knees weeping cause I so depressed my felt the presiuos comforting hand touch my shoulder and comfort me and I've never forgot that touch.