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OrangeHope
21st December 2007, 03:07 PM
I'm wonding why Christians celebrate all the Christian holidays but not the Jewish holidays like Jesus celebrated (although i do know a few Christians who celebrate Jewish holidays)?

Like why don't we celebrate Passover like we are commanded to?

Exodus 12:18-19
In the first month you are to eat bread made without yeast, from the evening of the fourteenth day until the evening of the twenty-first day. For seven days no yeast is to be found in your houses. And whoever eats anything with yeast in it must be cut off from the community of Israel, whether he is an alien or native-born.

So why don't we? just wondering...

Abbadon
21st December 2007, 03:32 PM
Old covenant so we're not required to, and "no yeast" is culinarily limiting (big no-no with most Baptists, the B stands for "Big eaters").

AV1611VET
21st December 2007, 04:36 PM
Like why don't we celebrate Passover like we are commanded to?

The Passover was to look forward to the Cross, whereas Easter looks back at the Cross.

Tea
21st December 2007, 08:14 PM
I'm sure my bible says, when Christ was celebrating the Passover with His disciples, and instituting the new emblems/meaning, He said "to do this is remembrance of Me". The new testament church celebrated this "remembrance Passover" also. So how is Passover only looking forward?
John 22:11 ..., where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
19 ... This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

1Cor 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For Christ our passover is sacrified for us:
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, ...

These people were indeed, aware that the passover was to look back on in remembrance of what He had done for them.
Just wondering,
Tracey

arunma
21st December 2007, 09:23 PM
The Old Testament sacrifices and feasts looked forward to the cross. Now, as it says, "These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ." (Colossians 2:17). There wouldn't be much meaning in celebrating a festival whose purpose is already fulfilled.

Tea
21st December 2007, 09:40 PM
There wouldn't be much meaning in celebrating a festival whose purpose is already fulfilled.

So you don't celebrate easter or christmas either, since their purpose has already been fullfilled?
Just wondering.

AV1611VET
21st December 2007, 09:52 PM
So you don't celebrate easter or christmas either, since their purpose has already been fullfilled?
Just wondering.

We celebrate Easter in commemorization of Jesus' resurrection. We celebrate Christmas in commemorization of Jesus' birth.

To celebrate Passover today, though, would be disrespectful; as God went through great pains (literally) to do away with what the Passover entails. That is, the physical death of, and application of the blood of, animals.

Jesus changed the Levitical Priesthood over to the Melchisedekan Priesthood, and under the Melchisedekan Priesthood, there are no accommodations for a Passover celebration.

arunma
22nd December 2007, 05:34 AM
So you don't celebrate easter or christmas either, since their purpose has already been fullfilled?
Just wondering.

The Scripture that you cited would suggest that Easter has a memorial purpose. Indeed the Lord's Supper emphasizes the same truths as the holiday of Easter, and so we should conclude that it is right to remember the Lord's death and resurrection (as well as his birth). The point is that Easter and Christmas are memorial, they look backwards rather than forwards.

I'm in no way suggesting that it is legalistic or ungodly to celebrate Old Testament holidays. But it is, at least according to my understanding, unnecessary. On a more practical standpoint, it would be very difficult to observe these Hebrew festivals properly. All of the Israelite holy days are prescribed as part of the theocracy of Israel. They require an active priesthood, the Tabernacle or Temple, and a whole host of cleansing rituals. It would be nearly impossible for anyone in modern times to observe the holy days as they are Biblically commanded. Again, it's not that I have any problem with this in principle. But how is one to celebrate the holy days of Israel without the Israelite theocracy?

prgallo
23rd December 2007, 08:26 AM
I'm wonding why Christians celebrate all the Christian holidays but not the Jewish holidays like Jesus celebrated (although i do know a few Christians who celebrate Jewish holidays)?

Like why don't we celebrate Passover like we are commanded to?

Exodus 12:18-19
In the first month you are to eat bread made without yeast, from the evening of the fourteenth day until the evening of the twenty-first day. For seven days no yeast is to be found in your houses. And whoever eats anything with yeast in it must be cut off from the community of Israel, whether he is an alien or native-born.

So why don't we? just wondering...
That was a command to Israel not the church. We aren't under law as we have been set free from the law. If we (the church) practiced Passover, which other of the commands in the OT should we follow? Sacrifies, stoning, not just kill our enemies but thier wives children and livestock?

In your church are you taught that OT commands are for us? My question includes the blessings & curses in Deuteronomy (some churches teach these are still ineffect for Christians)?

I ask this because you say "we are commanded to" and was wondering where you heard this or why you believe it to be the case.

MrJim
23rd December 2007, 09:48 AM
I'm not jewish~no record of gentile believers participating in passover nor circumcizing their boys...is there?

MatthewDiscipleofGod
24th December 2007, 12:31 AM
I think there would be great benefit in celebrating Passover once in a while. Not as something that is required but as something dedicated to God and as a remembrance of our Christian brothers in the past. Also it gives us great opportunities to reach out to Jews that reject the Messiah if we have a better understand of things such as the Passover. Most Christians are totally ignorant of Jewish festivals and rituals.

openhearts
28th December 2007, 02:35 AM
I'm not jewish~no record of gentile believers participating in passover nor circumcizing their boys...is there?

Mr Jim,
There are many records of gentiles participating and honoring Gods appointed times.
example
Exodus 12:47-49
47 All the congregation of Israel are to celebrate this
48 But if a stranger sojourns with you, and celebrates the Passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near to celebrate it; and he shall be like a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person may eat of it
49 The same law shall apply to the native as to the stranger who sojourns among you
Peace

MrJim
28th December 2007, 10:44 AM
Mr Jim,
There are many records of gentiles participating and honoring Gods appointed times.
example
Exodus 12:47-49
47 All the congregation of Israel are to celebrate this
48 But if a stranger sojourns with you, and celebrates the Passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near to celebrate it; and he shall be like a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person may eat of it
49 The same law shall apply to the native as to the stranger who sojourns among you
Peace

:sorry: Sorry, I meant within the New Covenant.

eldermike
28th December 2007, 10:55 AM
You can include the historical passover elements into the Lord's supper. Christians can learn much about the cross from this. However, there is no reason to celebrate as a hebrew looking for a savior, when that savior is alive in us. IMHO.