New Covenant/Land/Heaven/Jerusalem

[LittleLambofJesus]

Shalom. I am trying to harmonize the New Heaven/Land/Jerusalem in the GNT book of Revelation to the OT.

While studying the Hebrew concerning the New "heaven/land", I noticed the same word YHWH used for "New" in Isaiah 65 is also used in conjunction with the New Covenant for Israel/Judah.
I view the Bible fulfilled myself, but was wondering how differently Orthodox Jews and Messianics view these passages.
If JESUS was the Jew's Messiah/Savior, that can only mean He also brought a new heaven/land to Israel and Judah. Thoughts on this? Thanks.

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Isaiah 65:17 That_behold-Me! Creating/01254 bara' Heavens/שָׁמַיִם New-ones/חֲדָשִׁים and-Land New/חֲדָשָׁה and-not they-shall-be-remembered the-former-ones and-not they-shall-come-up on heart.


Jeremiah 31:31 Behold/הִנֵּה days/יָמִים ones-coming/בָּאִים a-declaration-of/נְאֻם- YHWH/יְהוָה and-I-Cut/וְכָרַתִּי with/אֶת- house-of/בֵּית Yisra'el/יִשְׂרָאֵל and-with/וְאֶת- house-of/בֵּית Y@huwdah/יְהוּדָהCovenant/בְּרִית New/חֲדָשָׁה

[visionary]

If you travel from country to country, you notice that they all have hills and valleys, rivers and streams, farms and cities, but what you notice what makes the differences is the laws of the land.

Same with the Lord, He brought His kingdom with Him, and if they had accepted it and Him as their ruler, it would have made a big difference in their world.

[LittleLambofJesus]

Here are the verses for Jeremiah 31:31 and Hebrew 8:8.
YHWH uses the Hebrew word for "Cut" in Jeremiah but the author of the book of Hebrews uses the greek word symbolizing "together-finish". The prefix "sun" implying "joined". I will provide the greek texts upon request which can be viewed with this interlinear along with the Hebrew texts. Thoughts?

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Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, days, ones-coming declarations of YHWH, and-I-Cut/03772 karath with the house of Yisra'el and with the house of Y@huwdah a-Covenant/01285 b@riyth New

Hebrews 8:8 "For faulting to-them, He is saying:, `Behold, days are coming, is saying Lord.
And shall-be-together-finishing/sun-telesw<4931> (5692) upon the house of Israel, and upon the house of Judah a Covenant/diaqhkhn <1242>, New/kainhn<2537>"

[A_Pioneer]

I view the Bible fulfilled myself, but was wondering how differently Orthodox Jews and Messianics view these passages.
If JESUS was the Jew's Messiah/Savior, that can only mean He also brought a new heaven/land to Israel and Judah. Thoughts on this? Thanks.
As has been stated before, the Fall Festivals haven't been acted out by Yeshua yet.
The "New Covenant" is for now, but not yet!
Is. 59:20-21/Ro.11:26.

Shalom

[LittleLambofJesus]

As has been stated before, the Fall Festivals haven't been acted out by Yeshua yet.
The "New Covenant" is for now, but not yet!
Is. 59:20-21/Ro.11:26.

Shalom
Hi. That would be for a different topic of which I have a study on.
Continuing with Jeremiah 31/Hebrew 8 again.

In Hebrew 8:10, the author of Hebrews changes the word from "together-finish" to "covenanting". I am doing this also for the Jews to perhaps get views from them.
Being a non-Israelite "gentile", I would say that JESUS finished His works for me also. Shalom.

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Jeremiah 31:33 That this the-Covenant/01285 b@riyth which I-shall-Cut/03772 karath <ath>/with house-of Yisra'el after the-days, those, declarations-of YHWH. I-give Law of Me within-them and-on heart-of-them I-shall-write-her.
And-I-become to-them for-Elohiym, and-they they-shall-become to-Me for-people.

Hebrew 8:10 That this the Covenant/diaqhkh <1242>which I shall be Covenanting/diaqhsomai <1303> (5695) to the House of Israel after the days, those, is saying LORD. Giving laws of Me into the minds of them and upon hearts of them I shall be engraving them.
And I shall be to them into a God, and they shall be to Me into a People.

Hebrews 7:12 For of being changed the Priesthood, out of necessity also, of Law a change is becoming/ginetai <1096> (5736),

[A_Pioneer]

Why are you still teaching "Know the Lord" if all is accomplished? For one sent to the house of Israel he said to the Jew don't tell, to the gentile he says to tell everyone?


Same subject. But oh well!

Shalom

[LittleLambofJesus]

Why are you still teaching "Know the Lord" if all is accomplished? For one sent to the house of Israel he said to the Jew don't tell, to the gentile he says to tell everyone?


Same subject. But oh well!

ShalomHi. Wasn't JESUS sent to reveal YHWH His Father to both "Israel/Judah" and the World?

What did the author of Hebrew mean by a "change of Priesthood" which inplies to me that those in YHWH's Christ are now the New Priests and Kings thru JESUS. [as shown in the Jewish/Hebrew book of Revelation] Thoughts? Shalom. :groupray:

Matthew 26:3 Then were gathered together the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders of the people, tothe Court/aulhn <833>of the chief-priest who was called Caiaphas;

Hebrews 7:12 For of being changed/metatiqemenhV <3346> (5746) the Priesthood, out of necessity also, of Law a change/metaqesiV <3331> is becoming/ginetai <1096> (5736),

Reve 11:2 and the Court/aulhn <833>,the-one with-out of-the Sanctuary, be you Casting Out!! [#1537-#906 ek-bale (5628)] out-side/exw <1854>

[A_Pioneer]

Hi. Wasn't JESUS sent to reveal YHWH His Father to both "Israel/Judah" and the World?
Then he was a colossal failure if that was the job at hand and the whole bible is in error.
Since he came to open up the gospel to the Nations, he did a firstclass job!
When he returns he will banish all ungodliness from Jacob.

Shalom

[varsity]

Here are the verses for Jeremiah 31:31 and Hebrew 8:8.
YHWH uses the Hebrew word for "Cut" in Jeremiah but the author of the book of Hebrews uses the greek word symbolizing "together-finish". The prefix "sun" implying "joined". I will provide the greek texts upon request which can be viewed with this interlinear along with the Hebrew texts. Thoughts?

It's called semantic range. Different languages express the same concept with different words. In English, one makes a covenant, while in Hebrew, one cuts a covenant (because one literally cut animals to ratify a covenant). I don't know Koine Greek, but I would think that it would have its own way to express the concept of making a covenant.