Hey, Dude, Loosen Up A Little!

[Latreia]

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[Angeldove97]

I love the song too... but don't forget God was one of us about 2000 years ago minus the sin.

[Ishida]

Yeah, I was kinda thinking it'd be a "been there, done that" kind of deal. What are the nations to God? I doubt he'd become a slave to the culture..

[Latreia]

Never could have imagined that anyone could think about God being "one of us" in any way.

Or who could think that Jesus Christ, even while on earth, was just "one of us".

I cannot fathom that kind of spiritual level that demands the most Sacred and Holy Divinity must be brought down to "one of us" in order to feel comfortable about faith.

We do not worship nor kneel in prayer to "one of us."



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[Father Rick]

Never could have imagined that anyone could think about God being "one of us" in any way.

Or who could think that Jesus Christ, even while on earth, was just "one of us".

I cannot fathom that kind of spiritual level that demands the most Sacred and Holy Divinity must be brought down to "one of us" in order to feel comfortable about faith.

We do not worship nor kneel in prayer to "one of us."



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Uhhh...

That was the very point of the incarnation.

The Christ was exactly like us in every way-- yet without sin.

He felt the same things we feel. He was tempted with the same things we are tempted with. He had the same struggles, the same issues, the same everything-- so that He could be our example.

There are actually numerous scriptures that make exactly that point.

[Latreia]

There is absolutely nothing left to say on this forum. But it is meet that I say farewell both to it and to you, FR.

Mark 6:11 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=48&chapter=6&verse=11&version=31&context=verse)
And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them."

[Criada]

Sister, you are both welcome and listened to.
But surely we should be able to discuss things...
Examining issues where we differ can lead to learning and to growth...

[daveleau]

CF, where the blind lead the blind.

:sigh:

I agree that many discussions degenerate into poor examples of Christ by people trying to "defend" Him.

But, I would not label all of CF like that. It seems like the internet's anonymity leads people to do this on a plethora of sites across the web. ...all in the name of Christ, sadly.

We need to be the example and love others while teaching the truth with great patience and careful instruction.

In Christ,
Dave

[Debi1967]

Uhhh...

That was the very point of the incarnation.

The Christ was exactly like us in every way-- yet without sin.

He felt the same things we feel. He was tempted with the same things we are tempted with. He had the same struggles, the same issues, the same everything-- so that He could be our example.

There are actually numerous scriptures that make exactly that point.
Agreed FR Rick

[Debi1967]

There is absolutely nothing left to say on this forum. But it is meet that I say farewell both to it and to you, FR.

Mark 6:11 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=48&chapter=6&verse=11&version=31&context=verse)
And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them."

Latreia my friend

Remember not all of us have the same sense of humor or beliefs that everyone else does here and that we are allowed to differ. I didn't really appreciate the thread in OBOB either but I am not going to judge those that thought of it as humorous either that is for God to do ultimately.

Who knows maybe God finds that humorous himself. It just doesn't tickle me.

[Father Rick]

Personally, I think it is very telling of some's attitudes that a simple disagreement of a point of theology makes them "wipe the dust off their feet" against someone.


It is sad to me that some honestly think that such is a Christ-like thing to do...

[Izdaari]

Father Rick is exactly right. The whole point of the incarnation was that Jesus was one of us, fully Man... but ALSO fully God at the same time. If He had not been completely both, fully God and fully Man, the whole point of the Incarnation would've been lost.

Let me point out: denying either the simultaneous full divinity or full humanity of Jesus is a heresy, according to the traditions of orthodox, conservative Christianity.

And for anyone who doubts that God has a sense of humor: remember the platypus! ^_^

[SolomonVII]

The song in question, as far as I know was written by a very secular woman, and it reveals just how deeply embedded Christian thought yet remains even in the most secular strata of our societies.

This is just not a song that could have come out of Islamic or Jewish cultures. For Muslims and Jews, God is just way too other, too transcendant, too glorious, too awesome and terrifying to be seen in the cooing of an infant, or in the person of an ordinary, or even ragged person. The song itself to a non-Christian monothiest, would be necessarily be seen as sacrelige and blasphemy as a point of fact. The idea of God being one of us is what makes Christianity unique and special and very, very different from all the other religions of the Abrahamic traditions.

But there is a whimsy in the song, and a humbling awareness of one's own ordinariness, and a heartfelt desire to come to a redemptive understanding of ourselves that gives the song a tremendously powerful transcendant aspect. There is a desire in the song for God to really know us in our ordinariness as he might even know Himself even, and hence the possibility of redemption from the loneliness of being all-too-human, all-too-ordinary.



The thread in question however, is frivolous at best, and does neither the song, nor Jesus, any real justice. Where the song was whimsical and humble and filled with a real redemptive longing, the posts in the thread were mainly loud and crass, imho.

To see God in the person of the ordinary is quintessentially Christian. But to regard God as therefore just an ordinary person would be missing the point entirely.

And the point being?....

....that God lowered himself to our level, so that He may lift us up to the Heavens.
....not to regard God as ordinary, but to see the truly extraordinary in what we have come to understand was merely our own ordinary, mundane lives.

[rmw8855]

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