How deep can you go? [Archive]

SnuP

27th October 2003, 09:05 PM

Every thought about it?

How well can you know God? What limits are there on a relationship with God? Are there ways to over come those limits?

Its not really a question for testimony, rather a theological question. So often our relational potential is not talked about. I mean is there a limit in the depth of spirituality that a man can obtain, his ability to interact with God? And what would that limit be?

Can you describe what level in Christ, you would call your 'dream' level. (Kind of like describing a dream house.)

Serapha

28th October 2003, 07:28 AM

Hi there!

:wave:

Ro 8:39 (http://bible1.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=ro+8:39&version=kjv&st=1&sd=1&new=1&showtools=1) Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

God doesn't move, it is us that moves. We have the choice of moving closer to God in every statement and action we make, or we have the choice of moving further away.

~malaka~

jbarcher

28th October 2003, 06:46 PM

Actually,

if I am indeed going to pastor

I'm also going to be in prayer a lot.

That's...good...

Best is once our time here is up.

SnuP

29th October 2003, 12:13 AM

It is often times so simple to touch God, to feel God. We are the ones who complicate everything. A God who accepts us as we are, and Who's love never fails, Who's only desire is to pure love on us, we so often miss it. Through our judgements of Him and of ourselves.

If I can just call on His name to feel His presence, if I just have to open my mouth to hear His voice, why do I spend most of my day alone? This question is a question that I think that far too many christians can identify with.

SnuP

29th October 2003, 12:15 AM

Yeah, I picked all of them.

I just can't seem to limit my faith to just a few ways of experiencing God.

:cool:

Dandey

30th October 2003, 09:59 AM

The limitation is my humanity against His infinity. It is not a question of breaking down barriers. God reveals Himself to us and He knows what I can bear. Remember what Jesus said to His disciples:

“ "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear.” (John 16:12 NIV)

God knows how much we can take and we make a big mistake if we try to go beyond God's limits

SnuP

30th October 2003, 07:20 PM

Some interesting thoughts, have you considered that God also knows how to get us beyond our limitations?

Dandey

31st October 2003, 07:30 AM

Remember, I said God's limits. The early disciples had to learn that God's timing is perfect and He knows when to lift and when to drop the curtain. As regards the poll, I must admit that I do not want to compare myself with any of the OT or NT characters, or anyone else for that matter. I believe that I am a unique creation, just as well you may think. But if I am available God can use me whenever, wherever and however He wishes. His way is perfect.

SnuP

5th May 2005, 10:15 PM

This is and old thead that died too quick. It would be nice to have people actually talk about this.

Izzy23

5th May 2005, 11:35 PM

I like the relationship Abraham had with God. He followed Him blindly. In spite of his weaknesses, God called him His friend. That's deep. :)

twistedsketch

5th May 2005, 11:56 PM

I don't really have a single, specific hero from that list.

PapaLandShark

6th May 2005, 12:43 AM

Luke 9:46-48

bluemarkus

6th May 2005, 05:10 AM

hey

my type is more joshua. and i didn´t pick my type.

regards

MB

New_Wineskin

6th May 2005, 05:38 AM

I like the relationship Abraham had with God. He followed Him blindly. In spite of his weaknesses, God called him His friend. That's deep. :)

That is more or less what I was about to write . I would also add that Abraham was given the promises of which we are the recipients .

FaithAlone

6th May 2005, 02:05 PM

Enoch and Elijah. I'm gonna be called up with God : )

SnuP

6th May 2005, 05:07 PM

I often think of Samuel. When I read about Him coming to the temple as a lad where the scriptures say that he worship, I have a sense of God smiling. I catch a glimps of the spiritual third dimention of scripture and I just know that that is the impowering.

daverain

7th May 2005, 01:30 AM

.

John was a -CHRISTIAN- , who had - The Holy Spirit - .

("For The Holy Spirit had not yet been given.")

.

SnuP

7th May 2005, 01:46 AM

.

John was a -CHRISTIAN- , who had - The Holy Spirit - .

("For The Holy Spirit had not yet been given.")

.John is a good pick. I have thought often that the real reason that John was so unkillable is because he was so submitted to God. Much like Daniel, shad, mes, and benny.

But is that a true example of the depths possible in Christ. I think that enouch would have to be one of the best examles of extreme relationship. He just walking along haveing a conversation with God, like always and God says, 'you know what, why don't you just come up here.'

SnuP

7th May 2005, 01:47 AM

uhps, different John
my bad

daverain

7th May 2005, 02:06 AM

.

I think that enouch would have to be one of the best examles of extreme relationship.

Enouch ( from Genesis ) ...

did -NOT- have The Holy Spirit...

like a -CHRISTIAN- does...
("For The Holy Spirit had -NOT YET BEEN GIVEN." )

John (The Apostle)

had The Holy Spirit (from Pentecost)...

And had Eternal Life (from Christ's sacrifice)...

(David committed murder. Yet "No murderer has eternal-life.")

And...

"Whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is -GREATER THAN JOHN THE BAPTIST."

(My words: At that time, John the baptist had -NOT- the sacrifice of Christ. )

Peace in Christ.

.

SnuP

7th May 2005, 02:32 AM

.

Enouch ( from Genesis ) ...

did -NOT- have The Holy Spirit...

like a -CHRISTIAN- does...
("For The Holy Spirit had -NOT YET BEEN GIVEN." )

John (The Apostle)

had The Holy Spirit (from Pentecost)...

And had Eternal Life (from Christ's sacrifice)...

(David committed murder. Yet "No murderer has eternal-life.")

And...

"Whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is -GREATER THAN JOHN THE BAPTIST."

(My words: At that time, John the baptist had -NOT- the sacrifice of Christ. )

Peace in Christ.

.I think the difference in my thinking is that I am not considering how much of the Spirit, or God they had. But rather I am looking at how little of themselves they had. And how intimate their comunication was.

(yes I do believe that David has eternal life, ie he did repent.)

daverain

8th May 2005, 03:44 AM

.

(yes I do believe that David has eternal life, ie he did repent.)

I disagree.

David did -NOT have eternal-life.

No one had eternal-life until Jesus gave His sacrifice.

You -CAN'T- have the sacrifice (or The Holy Spirit)...

-UNTIL- it / He is given.

("For The Holy Spirit had -NOT YET- been given")

David might -NOW- have eternal-life (in heaven),

because...

-NOW- Christ -HAS GIVEN- His sacrifice to us.

Peace in Christ.

.

SnuP

8th May 2005, 01:18 PM

.

I disagree.

David did -NOT have eternal-life.

No one had eternal-life until Jesus gave His sacrifice.

You -CAN'T- have the sacrifice (or The Holy Spirit)...

-UNTIL- it / He is given.

("For The Holy Spirit had -NOT YET- been given")

David might -NOW- have eternal-life (in heaven),

because...

-NOW- Christ -HAS GIVEN- His sacrifice to us.

Peace in Christ.

.Agreed, thank you

didaskalos

8th May 2005, 01:49 PM

SnuP

8th May 2005, 02:17 PM

1Jo 3:2 Beloved, now are we children of God, and it is not yet made manifest what we shall be. We know that, if he shall be manifested, we shall be like him; for we shall see him even as he is.

Colossians 3:3-4
3 For ye died, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall be manifested, then shall ye also with him be manifested in glory.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :holy: Heaven manefesting on the earth, realizing that right now I am seated in heavenly places in Christ. Right now you and I have all that we need, we are made perfect, and we reign in power. We are already healed, delived, and have all of the power and authority we need to succeed. We just have to get out of the way and let Christ manifest His life releasing the gift that is already ours.

IN Christ
SnuP

Quentin

9th May 2005, 08:26 PM

Hello all,
Since I am most like David, I find that there is no limitations as to what God can do in me. I find the more I read Scripture, pray, etc. the more I am blessed. It was a hunch of mine for a long time God was going to bless me this year. Now it is confirmed. :) I do honestly believe there is NO limit as to how deep in love with our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ you can go.

Peace,
Jess