Word Gifts

[Peaceful Dove]

I felt in prayer today that the Lord was leading me to start this thread.

I think there is a need to pray for the Word Gifts in here.
That would be the Gift of Prophesy, the Gift of the Word of Knowledge and the Gift of the Word of Wisdom.

The Lord seemed to have a Word for someone who has been reading these threads who is praying for an answer to a deep question. I had an image of this person being torn in two directions.

Here is what I heard. "You know the answer my Son. Do not make problems where they do not exist. Lay down what you have clung onto and come, follow me."

I pray that these words touch one of your hearts and Spirits.

[Peaceful Dove]

Oh by the way, if any word given in here touches a heart, please confirm it. We need to know that God is moving in this way.

[HisKid1973]

This is what I have been operating in for awhile....I usaly just pm stuf and they write back "how did ya know"..It's all about lifting up Jesus..The more flesh that dies the more usful you can be to the Lord...Bless ya..k

[Peaceful Dove]

Hi Sweetie,
These Words from the Lord need to be out in the Light of Day. PMing is wonderful but does not build up the entire Body like the Gifts are meant to do.

Please share them as you get them.
My gift is the Word of Knowledge, too and I will share what I receive.

[StTherese]

Oh by the way, if any word given in here touches a heart, please confirm it. We need to know that God is moving in this way.
Sorry, this may be a stupid question, but...Why do we need to know that God is moving in this way?:scratch:

[HisKid1973]

Therese they are for ministry to the body.
Peace I usually get words of wisdom for individuals while praying for them...

[CatholicFlame]

Hey St. Therese,

I think that the reason why it is good to know when God has touched someone's heart is because it helps the person who received the message in the first place to know if the word was really from God or not. Usually the best way to know is if what was received produces the good fruit of the Spirit.

Some of that is peace, conversion, repentance, love, joy and other gifts of God.

I hope this helps you a little bit.

peace be with us all, amen.

[StTherese]

Hey St. Therese,

I think that the reason why it is good to know when God has touched someone's heart is because it helps the person who received the message in the first place to know if the word was really from God or not. Usually the best way to know is if what was received produces the good fruit of the Spirit.

Some of that is peace, conversion, repentance, love, joy and other gifts of God.

I hope this helps you a little bit.

peace be with us all, amen.
Thank you...that does help...
Peace be with you!

[CatholicFlame]

:)

[MoNiCa4316]

The Lord seemed to have a Word for someone who has been reading these threads who is praying for an answer to a deep question. I had an image of this person being torn in two directions.

Here is what I heard. "You know the answer my Son. Do not make problems where they do not exist. Lay down what you have clung onto and come, follow me."

I pray that these words touch one of your hearts and Spirits.

:wave: I guess I'm not a 'Son', hehe...but this is just soo relevant for me, and I feel like this might be for me!! wow! I dont know for sure; but it fits perfectly. Thanks for making this thread!! Unfortunately I have to run now..but I'll be back when I can and I'll write more! :)
God bless!

[HowardDean]

What a lovely thread!:amen:

[MoNiCa4316]

Here is what I heard. "You know the answer my Son. Do not make problems where they do not exist. Lay down what you have clung onto and come, follow me."


:wave: Oki I said I'll come back to explain why this was relevant to me; and I'm back now =)

All last week, I was really struggling with something...the Lord has been telling me that He wants me to believe in the real presence in the Eucharist...but I kept on praying for a confirmation, etc. I also felt like He was leading me to take Communion at my old Eastern Orthodox church, where it's believed to be literal. I was really struggling with that...to be honest I really didn't want to accept this...so I just kept on asking Him, 'is this for real'. LOL. Well one day..I was pretty worried about everything..and then somehow I ended up on a website about Mary appearing in Medjugorje. You probably know what I'm talking about ;) well I was reading quotes by her that the people heard...and one of them was about the Eucharist. And then suddenly I just felt God speaking to me...that He wants me to focus on Communion more than I have before. I always feel His presence so strongly during and after Communion, so that was probably a sign... that day, everything changed for me.

I decided that I'm going to go to my old EO church to take Communion there, and to go to confession, etc....I was baptized and chrismated there, so I can do that. however, I can only go there once a month for transportation reasons, so I'm going to keep on going to my non denom church the rest of the time...to worship, etc. I just won't take Communion there.

Well when I read this thread...that just really spoke to me. I could relate every word to how I felt. I clung onto a lot of doubt and worry and my own preferances...but I already knew His answer. LOL.
By the way, I've considered being Catholic too...but for some reason, I just don't feel lead there right now. Maybe in the future, I will, if that's God's will. He has a plan and knows what He's doing. :) but I really like the Catholic church especially because of the Charismatic Renewal...

Can you guys please pray for me? I'm still feeling lost on so many things... even though I've made the decision to take Communion at the EO church and go to confession, etc...I have lots of Protestant beliefs and I feel that they are right...I dont feel like God wants me to let them go, and I don't really know what to do...for example, I still believe in the 'invisible' universal church, and I think I always will. And I don't consider myself 'Orthodox' or 'Protestant'..just Christian... Also, I keep on worrying if God's alright with me going to the non denom church on the other Sundays. I'll just be worshipping there...but I really want a confirmation that this is His will too...and..to make things even more confusing, I'm really lost about 'tongues'. You see the Orthodox church, they don't support speaking in tongues...but I disagree...and I really wish I could go to a church where it is practiced. And also..:sigh: I really love the worship at the non denom church but I find Orthodox worship really hard to 'connect' to...so I dont know what to do about that...I'm sorry this post is so long and disorganized, the truth is I'm really confused.

If anyone has a word for me about any of this, I'd really appreciate it ....and if not, could you please pray for me? I really need some guidance...

thanks, and God bless!

:groupray:

[HowardDean]

I first visited an Orthodox OCA church this May thanks to this board.
I was brought up Catholic but met Jesus when I left that church.

The orthodox made it clear to take communion there, you must be in fellowship with them, meaning you Agree with all their teachings, including closed communion.
You must decide, if your heart isn't in it, it would seem fake.
I would settle it before taking communion there.

[Peaceful Dove]

:wave: Oki I said I'll come back to explain why this was relevant to me; and I'm back now =)

All last week, I was really struggling with something...the Lord has been telling me that He wants me to believe in the real presence in the Eucharist...but I kept on praying for a confirmation, etc. I also felt like He was leading me to take Communion at my old Eastern Orthodox church, where it's believed to be literal. I was really struggling with that...to be honest I really didn't want to accept this...so I just kept on asking Him, 'is this for real'. LOL. Well one day..I was pretty worried about everything..and then somehow I ended up on a website about Mary appearing in Medjugorje. You probably know what I'm talking about ;) well I was reading quotes by her that the people heard...and one of them was about the Eucharist. And then suddenly I just felt God speaking to me...that He wants me to focus on Communion more than I have before. I always feel His presence so strongly during and after Communion, so that was probably a sign... that day, everything changed for me.

I decided that I'm going to go to my old EO church to take Communion there, and to go to confession, etc....I was baptized and chrismated there, so I can do that. however, I can only go there once a month for transportation reasons, so I'm going to keep on going to my non denom church the rest of the time...to worship, etc. I just won't take Communion there.

Well when I read this thread...that just really spoke to me. I could relate every word to how I felt. I clung onto a lot of doubt and worry and my own preferances...but I already knew His answer. LOL.
By the way, I've considered being Catholic too...but for some reason, I just don't feel lead there right now. Maybe in the future, I will, if that's God's will. He has a plan and knows what He's doing. :) but I really like the Catholic church especially because of the Charismatic Renewal...

Can you guys please pray for me? I'm still feeling lost on so many things... even though I've made the decision to take Communion at the EO church and go to confession, etc...I have lots of Protestant beliefs and I feel that they are right...I dont feel like God wants me to let them go, and I don't really know what to do...for example, I still believe in the 'invisible' universal church, and I think I always will. And I don't consider myself 'Orthodox' or 'Protestant'..just Christian... Also, I keep on worrying if God's alright with me going to the non denom church on the other Sundays. I'll just be worshipping there...but I really want a confirmation that this is His will too...and..to make things even more confusing, I'm really lost about 'tongues'. You see the Orthodox church, they don't support speaking in tongues...but I disagree...and I really wish I could go to a church where it is practiced. And also..:sigh: I really love the worship at the non denom church but I find Orthodox worship really hard to 'connect' to...so I dont know what to do about that...I'm sorry this post is so long and disorganized, the truth is I'm really confused.

If anyone has a word for me about any of this, I'd really appreciate it ....and if not, could you please pray for me? I really need some guidance...

thanks, and God bless!

:groupray:Well, Monica,
I think you might have cleared something up for me too.
When I first received this Word from the Lord, I felt he said, "my Child" not "my Son". When I went to write it down, I believed I heard "my Son".
It stopped me for awhile. That doesn't usually happen. Then I remembered when Jesus called His Apostles (all men), He said, Come follow me. So, I wrote down, "My Son". When you said it spoke to you, my Spirit said, "Yes!".
The only other thing I can think of is that it might be meant for two people but that just doesn't feel right.

Now what you tell me about you going to confession and communion, I believe it is surely for you.
What a beautiful Christmas gift you are giving yourself.
And it looks like Jesus invited you, personally, himself!
Wow, Praise God.

I think you might end up in the Catholic Charismatic Renewal sometime down the line. You will then have the best of both worlds, wouldn't you?

[MoNiCa4316]

I first visited an Orthodox OCA church this May thanks to this board.
I was brought up Catholic but met Jesus when I left that church.

The orthodox made it clear to take communion there, you must be in fellowship with them, meaning you Agree with all their teachings, including closed communion.
You must decide, if your heart isn't in it, it would seem fake.
I would settle it before taking communion there.

I know...:sigh: the thing is, I really don't know how to do this...on one hand I believe in the real presence and feel lead to the EO church...on the other, I don't agree with all of their teachings...and it feels like almost too much to let go of my beliefs. I don't even feel convicted that they're wrong... I found God through Protestantism...and I think it will always be a part of me.
To me Communion is just partaking in Christ's Body and Blood...it has nothing to do with churches for me. Why do people have to make it so difficult and complicated!!! :cry: I felt a real relationship with Jesus when I became Protestant, and that's how I came to believe in Him...and now it feels like I have to choose between this relationship and the Eucharist. This probably doesn't reflect reality..but that's just how I feel...and I honestly can't take it anymore.

Sorry guys I just feel very lost.

[HowardDean]

:groupray: My son and I take communion at home and its not where or with what you take it; Jesus Is there.
Just sharing what works for me.:hug:

[MoNiCa4316]

Well, Monica,
I think you might have cleared something up for me too.
When I first received this Word from the Lord, I felt he said, "my Child" not "my Son". When I went to write it down, I believed I heard "my Son".
It stopped me for awhile. That doesn't usually happen. Then I remembered when Jesus called His Apostles (all men), He said, Come follow me. So, I wrote down, "My Son". When you said it spoke to you, my Spirit said, "Yes!".
The only other thing I can think of is that it might be meant for two people but that just doesn't feel right.

wow! :D well I was actually wondering why it said "my Son", and thinking..hmm is this really for me?? well I guess it is! =) I praise God for this because it was an answer for my prayer...:clap: thank you for writing it down and sharing it here!

Now what you tell me about you going to confession and communion, I believe it is surely for you.
What a beautiful Christmas gift you are giving yourself.
And it looks like Jesus invited you, personally, himself!
Wow, Praise God.

I wish that was the whole story :( I still have soo many questions...well at least I've made some progress...! :) The Eucharist really means a lot to me right now.

I think you might end up in the Catholic Charismatic Renewal sometime down the line. You will then have the best of both worlds, wouldn't you?

You know, I kinda wish God would take me there. Then I'll have the Eucharist and speaking in tongues and the type of worship that has initially brought me closer to God.... well I'll see ;)
I feel like right now, He's leading me to the EO church...I'm sure He has a reason for this. But this is proving to be much more complex than it's supposed to be, I guess.

[MoNiCa4316]

:groupray: My son and I take communion at home and its not where or with what you take it; Jesus Is there.
Just sharing what works for me.:hug:

I know HD :hug: I've been taking Communion at my non denom church for many months now...and I've always believed that Jesus is there, and I still believe this now. The only reason I want to take it at the EO church is because I feel God told me to...I still think that Protestant Communion is valid though. And I'm sure He leads people to Protestantism too. If you feel in your heart that your Communion is valid, then don't worry about it. God may have different plans for us.

My non denom church really brought me closer to Him...that's why I really hope He doesn't want me to leave it :( it's not about the music or the pastor...I just feel close to God there..I really love that church, and I can't imagine leaving it.

[CatholicFlame]

No Monica don't feel lost at all.

Just relax and let this settle. God is granting you peace now, He is taking away your confusion in Jesus' name. Amen. :crossrc:


I will help you. I know that you are truly hearing the Lord calling you back to confession and communion. So have no doubts about that. Yes, He is truly present there and not only that, your sins will be wiped away in confession. You will come out of there so clean that no one will understand what happened to you.

And the communion... wow. My dearest dearest sister! Your relationship with Christ is not going to be lost! In fact, your worthy worship of Jesus, truly present there in the Eucharist, is going to feed your soul like it never did before. Because now, not only do you believe in Him, but you also believe in HIs true presence. Both of those tow together will make you one of the strongest evangelizers this world has ever known. The power of God is going to rock over you and your dreams will all come true.

Communion is not going to mess up your relationsip with Jesus Monica, but actually, you are going to encounter Him like you never have before.

Let me tell you something, I wanted to tell you this a few days ago but the Lord told me to wait.

When was it, a year ago? that the Pope went to visit with the eastern orthodox christians? well, during that time, we had an ecumenical service here in San Francisco with our bishops and the leaders of the EO church here. It was a very beautiful night. We had a dinner afterwards and I sat with both catholics and eastern orthodox brothers and sisters for our meal.

I thought to myself "Wow , look into their eyes! There is so much love there..." Not like I have found in so many others.

Well the funny thing is, I had arived late. and I missed the service really. But somethign told me that I needed to go up and see the inside of the church. Because I had only arrived and went into the banquet hall.

So get this! There was a gate there! I could only look into the church, but I could not go in. And for some reason, I prayed as I looked up to the altar: "Lord are you really here?" (looking to the tabernacle)

"yes, I am really here" He said.

praise the Lord.

[CatholicFlame]

Monica, after you do what the Lord has asked you, come back here to CF and tell us the difference between when you took communion at the protestant chruch and when you did at the EO church.

God is doing a miracle for you. And He does nothing without purpose.

wait and see.

and have peace something wonderful is being given to you for Christimas!!!

PRAISE JESUS!!!

[HowardDean]

As I have found, you will always have a peace when its from God.
I once visited a church, and some rare times, I 'hear' God. Its my voice, but i never would think those things.
So I sat there waiting for service, and I heard Get out. get out.
I didn't listen, but we should always listen for His voice!:hug:

[MoNiCa4316]

:wave: Hey CF! LOL I only wish I was as excited about all this as you are...but to tell you the truth...I am pretty excited about the Eucharist part. :) I feel like that is what's leading me there. It does mean a lot to me. And I really want to see how it's like to take Communion at the EO church.

I know what you're saying is true that taking Communion there will strengthen my relationship with Jesus...I really hope it will..I've prayed so many times that He would take me further in my faith, maybe this is it..lol.
Thanks for sharing about your experience in the church =) I feel like that's something I'll remember for later on..hmm..!

What's bothering me now is...let's say I go to the Orthodox church and go to confession there and take Communion...I won't need to do anything else to 'come back', because I was baptized and chrismated in that church. Then, I'll be sacramentally Orthodox. And I believe that Communion would be an awesome experience. However...I don't know what to do about:

speaking in tongues
praise and worship, which I love..
my belief on the 'universal' church
going to the non denom church sometimes (I can't go to the EO church every week for reasons beyond my control)
..etc...

:swoon:

I think I just needed to type that out.

Thanks for praying for me :hug: I don't feel nervous anymore like I did in the beginning... I really wish God would just give me the answers to all my questions, lol. Sometimes I can be soo impatient :doh:

[CatholicFlame]

Wow HD,

I had a similar experience when I first went to a chruch for the first time after 20 of being out of church. (I was raised catholic though).

Before I got there, God told me "Don't go down."

But I knew that He wsn't talking about not going to the church itself. I can tell when He is talking about something else, although, it usually is just like I know that something is going to happen, althoguh I don't know what exactly.

So anyways!

I was in this non-denom church, the first time in any church for 20 years. And near the end of the service, they called people down (it is held in an old movie thearter) to be baptized.

Ohh, I want to cry now as I think about this. I went down to be baptized by them.

And ya know, God tried to stop me. but how foolish and rebellious I was.

I think I have never confessed this. It has just come back to mind today.

[HowardDean]

One can always speak in tongues and listen to praise music at home, they say.
But its up to you to make sure you are in agreement. Only you know.
Have you talked about this (you should!) with the orthodox Father?

[MoNiCa4316]

As I have found, you will always have a peace when its from God.
I once visited a church, and some rare times, I 'hear' God. Its my voice, but i never would think those things.
So I sat there waiting for service, and I heard Get out. get out.
I didn't listen, but we should always listen for His voice!:hug:

I've also found this to be true!! :) I really think this is from God though because right when I made my decision..I felt a lot of peace, and it was soo clear that it's from Him. It's like He was speaking to me. I've had experiences like this before :) When I think about the Eucharist I feel lots of peace. Unfortunately that's not the case with some other things...yet..I still have questions that worry me. But it's been several days and my conviction on the matter has not changed...

I agree with you about the peace though :thumbsup:

wow that's very interesting about the 'warning'! I've had some warnings given to me too...I havent followed all of them either, regretfully.

[MoNiCa4316]

Wow HD,

I had a similar experience when I first went to a chruch for the first time after 20 of being out of church. (I was raised catholic though).

Before I got there, God told me "Don't go down."

But I knew that He wsn't talking about not going to the church itself. I can tell when He is talking about something else, although, it usually is just like I know that something is going to happen, althoguh I don't know what exactly.

So anyways!

I was in this non-denom church, the first time in any church for 20 years. And near the end of the service, they called people down (it is held in an old movie thearter) to be baptized.

Ohh, I want to cry now as I think about this. I went down to be baptized by them.

And ya know, God tried to stop me. but how foolish and rebellious I was.

I think I have never confessed this. It has just come back to mind today.

aw you know sometimes things like that happen! :hug: I guess God wanted you to be Catholic all along ;) well...now you are! :)

[MoNiCa4316]

One can always speak in tongues and listen to praise music at home, they say.
But its up to you to make sure you are in agreement. Only you know.
Have you talked about this (you should!) with the orthodox Father?

I haven't...but I think I know what he'll say...oki the truth is, I'm kinda intimidated by him :blush: this is so silly!! Well he's not mean or anything...he's just really serious all the time, and ..well, I'm not! lol!
*feels silly*

Technically I agree with Orthodoxy...like I feel perfectly fine with the icons and saints and theology and sacraments and even confession...it's just the charismatic stuff and the definition of the Church.

I'll keep on praying about this :)

I can't go to the EO church until the first week of January...(this doesn't depend on me, but my family and transportation and cars. lol). So I have until then to figure things out.

:)

[CatholicFlame]

Don't you truly love how the Holy Spirit works?

Well let me just say, yes the Lord did want me to become catholic. But I also learned so much in the non-denom churches too.

I love praise and worship. And I love everything good in non-denoms.

but ya know Monica, let me try to answer some of those questions if I am able to. I'll do my best for you!

First Speaking in tongues. I know that you will be able to do this on your own for sure. Does the EO church forbid you to pray in tongues when you are praying privately? That is what you have been doing lately anyways at your non-speaking in tongues-denom.

hmm, I am not sure about all of the teahings of EO, but I do know that the sacraments are all real there. That is why I have such an overwhelming Joy for you to be coming back there!

okay so let's see, prasie and worship.

Wait a minute. I just got a word from God that there is no need to plan like this.

He has a plan.

Sister Monica, do not worry in the least. You strongly believe that you are following the Lord in this return. And I myself will confrim that with all my heart. I'll bet you didn't know that I have been praying for you ever since I first met you.

Do you remember where we first met here? It was in a thread that you started called "The mass" or something like that.

Taht day, I began to pray for you. I never told you this but I have really loved you like a sister since that first day! I never knew what was going to transpire. That was even before the Lord opened this charismatic renewal forum!!!

Everything has it's time! There is a purpose for all things under teh sun. have no fear, this has not happened by any chance Monica. I have prayed hard for you.

Today I thanked God for your post. I am so happy for you.

have peace, God is going to fix every one of your concerns. step by step.

peace beloved

[CatholicFlame]

oh perfect!

Angelsgirl is the perfect person to talk to you about all this Monica. Angelsgirl, if you are reading this, please tell monica about how much you long to have praise and worship while remaining united to the sacraments.

The Lord sent you here to help Monica, I am sure of this.

[CatholicFlame]

and why do Howard dean and Monica have the same hairdo???

lol!

God is funny

[angelsgirl]

Hey Monica, :wave: I am a convert from protestantism to Catholicism... and i just wanted to say a few things...
When I was in the process of converting (it took me A LONG time!) i realised that i needed to trust God and not try and learn about or fix any of the doubts I had in my head about Catholicism. There were a great many things that i disagreed with. But the same as you, I was drawn to the Eucharist. And in time God showed me, let me learn and taught me about the 'doubts' etc when I could deal with them.
We can't deal with everything at once.
And about the priest... priests so totally intimidate me too!!! Well they did much more before than they do now. But remember they are just people too!!! And they aren't really that bad!!!

[CatholicFlame]

I am going to pray the rosary ladies. But I will be back online to see how it all turned out tonight in a little while.

I am just so thankful for all the our Lord is doing and will continue to do in each one of us.

praise Him

[MoNiCa4316]

Don't you truly love how the Holy Spirit works?

Well let me just say, yes the Lord did want me to become catholic. But I also learned so much in the non-denom churches too.

I love praise and worship. And I love everything good in non-denoms.

but ya know Monica, let me try to answer some of those questions if I am able to. I'll do my best for you!

First Speaking in tongues. I know that you will be able to do this on your own for sure. Does the EO church forbid you to pray in tongues when you are praying privately? That is what you have been doing lately anyways at your non-speaking in tongues-denom.

:)
I don't think it forbids it if you do it privately..all I know is that they don't believe in it. (I'm talking about what we call usually call tongues..not speaking in different languages for evangelism).

hmm, I am not sure about all of the teahings of EO, but I do know that the sacraments are all real there. That is why I have such an overwhelming Joy for you to be coming back there!

:hug:


okay so let's see, prasie and worship.

Wait a minute. I just got a word from God that there is no need to plan like this.

He has a plan.


LOL! oki you know maybe that's what He wants me to know too...I just got this idea. :idea: I'm one of those people..I like to have everything planned out. I make to do lists almost every day! lol! I get nervous when I'm disorganized; it's like everything's falling apart. But maybe God just wants me to trust Him. I seriously worry too much!! I kinda have the feeling that things would be much clearer once I take Communion there...that once I do that, He will show me the rest. I've believed for a long time now that the most important thing is to seek Jesus Himself..and then He'll take us on all the right paths. I feel fairly certain that He wants me to take Communion at the EO church..I don't know about everything else...well..His will be done! That's all I can say. Maybe this is a good time to just surrender to Him, huh? I mean..He knows what I need and what I want..He knows my heart! Probably I'll look back on all this in several years and it'll all make sense then.

Sister Monica, do not worry in the least. You strongly believe that you are following the Lord in this return. And I myself will confrim that with all my heart. I'll bet you didn't know that I have been praying for you ever since I first met you.

Do you remember where we first met here? It was in a thread that you started called "The mass" or something like that.

Taht day, I began to pray for you. I never told you this but I have really loved you like a sister since that first day! I never knew what was going to transpire. That was even before the Lord opened this charismatic renewal forum!!!

Everything has it's time! There is a purpose for all things under teh sun. have no fear, this has not happened by any chance Monica. I have prayed hard for you.

Today I thanked God for your post. I am so happy for you.

have peace, God is going to fix every one of your concerns. step by step.

peace beloved

:hug: aw...I'm crying now, CF. lol. Thanks so much my brother. You're a blessing to me!

love in Christ

monica

[HowardDean]

Theres not tons of hair styles. If you have long blonde hair, this is the one to choose.

[MoNiCa4316]

and why do Howard dean and Monica have the same hairdo???

lol!

God is funny


Theres not tons of hair styles. If you have long blonde hair, this is the one to choose.


haha! well...my hair is currently long and straight and blonde ;) that's why I chose this particular hair style. I say 'currently' because my hair changes colour sometimes ;) and sometimes I curl it! hehe.

[MoNiCa4316]

Hey Monica, :wave: I am a convert from protestantism to Catholicism... and i just wanted to say a few things...
When I was in the process of converting (it took me A LONG time!) i realised that i needed to trust God and not try and learn about or fix any of the doubts I had in my head about Catholicism. There were a great many things that i disagreed with. But the same as you, I was drawn to the Eucharist. And in time God showed me, let me learn and taught me about the 'doubts' etc when I could deal with them.
We can't deal with everything at once.
And about the priest... priests so totally intimidate me too!!! Well they did much more before than they do now. But remember they are just people too!!! And they aren't really that bad!!!

Thank you Angelsgirl :hug: I've been thinking more about this and I think you're very right about trusting God and taking it step by step... I kinda feel like Martha who was worried about many things, when only one thing is needed. lol. I think you're right about that and I'll take your advice :)
About priests, lol! I actually heard that the priest at the EO church is very friendly in everyday life and is only so 'solemn' in Liturgy. Which..makes sense.. lol! When I see him though, he's always very serious, and is dressed in these fancy robes and smells like incense and has a beard! haha...^_^ He totally looks like an EO priest! lol!
One of my friends is Orthodox but goes to a different church..and her priest is fairly young and makes really silly jokes all the time - outside of church, of course ;) lol!

[MoNiCa4316]

I just want to say, I really appreciate all you guys! :hug: Thanks so much for taking the time to give me advice and to pray for me. God definitely uses people.
:groupray:

[HowardDean]

What a loving thread.
What I loved about the first time I went to an Orthodox church (Greek), my clothes smelled like incense and whenever I got a whiff, I felt the holy spirit like I had when I was in the church.
So nice.

[CatholicFlame]

Yep. We are blessed.

Monica, I see you right there, Hi

Well I was thinking that I wanted to tell you thanks for being such a good friend of Jesus. If it wasn't for that, nothing like this could ever have happened. I know that He is guiding you and all of us here, this love we feel in this place is no accident. It is God's presence among us.

And I know that all is in God's loving hands.

peace

[MoNiCa4316]

:groupray: God bless you guys

[CatholicFlame]

hey Monica, let's post some praise and worship in that ol thread we were posting in before. Gimme something from Hillsong my sister :)

peace

[MoNiCa4316]

hehe oki :)

[angelsgirl]

Thank you Angelsgirl :hug: I've been thinking more about this and I think you're very right about trusting God and taking it step by step... I kinda feel like Martha who was worried about many things, when only one thing is needed. lol. I think you're right about that and I'll take your advice :)
About priests, lol! I actually heard that the priest at the EO church is very friendly in everyday life and is only so 'solemn' in Liturgy. Which..makes sense.. lol! When I see him though, he's always very serious, and is dressed in these fancy robes and smells like incense and has a beard! haha...^_^ He totally looks like an EO priest! lol!
One of my friends is Orthodox but goes to a different church..and her priest is fairly young and makes really silly jokes all the time - outside of church, of course ;) lol!

It's not always easy to not worry about things... i'm a huge stresser and i wanted to know EVERYTHING... NOW!!!
And you know we are always here if you need to talk or rant and get things off your chest.

Oh and i forgot to mention this before... I don't think there is anything wrong with still attending your former church. I go to my parents church (a pentecostal type church) occasionally. I miss the music and the worship style and its nice to go there every now and then! But you know... everytime i go i sit there and can't help realising that there is something missing. And i finally realised what it was... the Eucharist... Its something I really crave when I'm anywhere other than a Catholic Church!!!

I am still a little scared of priests... i didn't even have the guts to call our parish priest about officiating my wedding. :doh: My husband dealt with the priest the whole time cause i was so scared to do it. And he is a lovely man!!!

[CatholicFlame]

Hey Angel,

Well I hope you know that you have the best of both worlds here with us in the catholic Charismatic Renewal!

Coming soon (wait, probably already there) to a parish near you!

hint hint

:D

with love in Jesus our Lord and Savior,

CF

[angelsgirl]

Hey Angel,

Well I hope you know that you have the best of both worlds here with us in the catholic Charismatic Renewal!

Coming soon (wait, probably already there) to a parish near you!

hint hint

:D

with love in Jesus our Lord and Savior,

CF

Hehe... i have been meaning to find out if there are any Charismatic groups around where I live.
I just don't like going to new things by myself... My husband is not interested in coming with me, so i have to get up the courage to go by myself!!! :D
Also we are going to have a baby in May, so i'm not sure how i would work going to a prayer group with a baby... some groups would be fine with it, and others wouldn't be!

[HowardDean]

Is there some sort of website for Charismatic catholicism?

[Peaceful Dove]

Is there some sort of website for Charismatic catholicism?

There are tons of them. All you have to do is google Catholic Charismatic.

Me and Catholic Flame are also in www.garg.com. (http://www.garg.com.)
It is a discussion group for Catholic Charismatics but not nearly as big as this one.

Oh and check out my Prayer community in Southern California.
www.scrc.org

[CatholicFlame]

I think I am going to re-post that search engine for charismatic renewal in a thread of its own Peaceful.

I hope it helps people find something near where they are.

[Peaceful Dove]

I think I am going to re-post that serch engine for charismatic renewal in a thread of its own Peaceful.

I hope it helps people find something near where they are.

Great idea.
Look forward to seeing it here.:clap: :clap: :clap:

[CatholicFlame]

Monica!

How are you doing? I was wondering if the Lord is giving you any more counsel on what He is planning to do with your move. I hope that I can help in some way.

Bless you my sister!

in His love: Jesus Christ who reigns forever and ever.
Amen!

Ben

[MoNiCa4316]

Monica!

How are you doing? I was wondering if the Lord is giving you any more counsel on what He is planning to do with your move. I hope that I can help in some way.

Bless you my sister!

in His love: Jesus Christ who reigns forever and ever.
Amen!

Ben

:wave: Hey! I'm doing pretty well! God has been giving me peace over my situation :) about two days ago I felt soo confused, and just really empty spiritually...it wasn't a good day. I kept on praying for help and guidance etc. And then God just calmed me down and let me know that this is His will, and that He knows what He's doing..so finally I decided to obey and felt happy about that. :) Afterwards, He let me feel close to Him again (I was pretty thankful about that, lol...I can't stand feeling so alone, even though I know He never actually leaves me).

But then I kept on wondering if it would still be alright for me to attend Protestant worship services at my university and at the non denom church, especially because I can't go to the EO church every week..I would only be able to go there once a month.. And God has given me peace about that, so I think it's alright...hmm..I wouldn't be taking Communion there, just going for the worship. Could you please pray for me that God gives me more guidance on that, or confirms what I think He has told me? LOL I'm having a hard time deciding..

However, it's for sure now, I'm going to take Communion at the EO church :) I feel like God is inviting me to take the Eucharist there, I just have to prepare and confess beforehand. I've prayed before that He would take me further in my faith..so maybe this is the answer? hmm =) well I really want to take the Eucharist, so He must have put this desire in me too. I don't know why this is happening, and I don't deserve the Eucharist that's for sure..but I've decided to just trust Him.

God bless! :)

monica

[CatholicFlame]

Monica, there are gems and gold in your future. I mean spiritually of course. :-)

Well God has really done a great thing in you here at Christian forums. I can see that. He has led you back to the sacraments. And that is completely awesome my sister. I really love to see God when He is finishing His work ! It seems like He led you here to bring you back. But of course, alas, the journey is not quite over yet. LOL you are still in your 20's!!! lol

Well here is what I feel that He is saying, although I don't know how this will come over to you. I have a strong feeling that a couple of things are going to happen. I am not sure that the EO priests, and church itself, are going to support you in going to protestant services. I am sorry to see that this might be what they say. But. That is not the end of the story, gosh Monica, you are going through a great trial, but don't worry!!! God has a huge plan for you. It may look bad at first glance (like right now) but just wait. Something is going to happen.

I beleive that you are going to become Catholic. !!! yep. I say this for a few reasons. 1. Because the catholic church does allow you to praise and worship with protestants. 2. Because the Catholic church holds almost the same definition of the mystical body of Christ that you do. 3. Because the EO church might refuse these two things to you. 4. Because you will be able to receive the sacraments in the Catholic Church. 5. Because as a catholic, you would be able to receive the Eucharist not only weekly, but DAILY and right there where you go to school. and 6. Because you know and I know that you are called to use the charismatic gifts of the Holy Spirit!!!

Whelp, there it is, that is what I see He has prepared for you. Glory to God in the Highest! And I say this slowly because stuff like a big conversion take time. God always prepares the way, but boy it takes time for something like this to come about. Naturally is the best.

In your case my dear sister, It came about Supernaturally.

Praise the Lord Jesus my sister, praise Him. All tht you desire is in Him.


lol, heavy right? So whatcha think about that?

[MoNiCa4316]

lol that's pretty heavy! Well, here's what I'll do: I'll follow Him and see where He takes me...I even kinda wish He made me Catholic instead..lol..or will, in the future..but I love the EO church too and there must be a good reason for Him calling me there. I believe God lead me to the non denom church too, to get to know Him better..I developed a relationship with Christ through Protestantism. So probably He wants me to learn something important or grow in some way in the EO church..I'll see. :)

I am not sure that the EO priests, and church itself, are going to support you in going to protestant services

I asked this question at the Orthodox forum, and some people said that they don't see a problem with me visiting the non denom church, since I can't make it to the EO church every week..as long as I don't take Communion there. However, I really don't know what the priests would say, and you may be right, hmm.. The thing is, I don't think I would be able to live with church once a month. LOL. I'm so used to going to church every Sunday!

Another thing..I kinda have a feeling that once I start taking the Eucharist there my relationship with God might grow...well if it does, I would want to worship Him more, right? well LOL you have no idea how hard it is for me to worship in Liturgy. I try...and it's very very beautiful...but I get distracted by everything. I'm also a pretty expressive person in worship and it's hard for me to just stand there...I want to sing too, LOL! Well I guess I would just have to get used to DL. I'm going to really try. However...sometimes, I just want to praise God..you know what I mean? And I do this best with charismatic or at least non denom worship. So I would really want to visit my old church for that. And LOL I don't know what to think about that! I want to know what God's view on this is. I've decided to obey Him by becoming Orthodox...and actually practicing the faith...not just being one of those 'Sunday Orthodox' Christians ;) but I don't know if this means that I'd have to cut everything else out of my life. Oki if God tells me to, I hope I will obey...but I'm not sure if that is His will.

:swoon:

please pray for me LOL!

[CatholicFlame]

Wow Monica, it is all great news to hear.

It's funny becasue this is the first time I have ever talked to a person in your shoes. But wow, God really prepares us for the ministry He gives us to undertake, isn't that so true Sis.

Because I hear what you are saying. You want to praise Him and worship Him and sing and love Him in your woship. I would never ever say that God desires you to stop doing that. That would be just not His ways.

lemme just say this from a personal view of it all. I can explain things better if I just say what God has been doing in my life. :)

Soo, I am charismatic like steubenville and like most of the videos that we have been watching. I am also a person who loves liturgical worship. In mass, I pray with all my heart Monica. Well, at least I try to I should say. The form of the liturgy really isn't the problem for me, it is like you said, my mind gets easily distracted.

But the Lord asks us to pray sincerely always. So I strive to do so. Liturgical worship helps me to focus my prayers and be obediant to God. In time, my prayers in mass have become more loving towards Him. The songs I still sing, and yeah, they still make me cry. hehe

I have been to some charismatic masses where the liturgy was the same liturgy, but everyone was praying from their heart and wow!!! I never prayed like that before Monica. It is powerful. Where things stand right now, not everyone in mass is charismatic or knows Jesus in a born again kinda way. That is what we hope to change for the better. But for the time being, we have to strive to get to know Him better ourselves while also helping those in liturgy to be able to know Him personally.

What a paradox this might sound like to you! God converted you seemingly outside the church (but you weren't totally away from Him) and now is calling you back to help Him restore His people!!!

This is the same walk that the entire Catholic Charismatic Renewal is walking. We are with you Monica!

peace, love and a holy sacrifice for Jesus.

may our lives be.

[MoNiCa4316]

I think my "problem" with the Liturgy is not the fact that it's formal or reverent, etc, but just that in my particular church, the people don't say or sing anything. There's the priest who says the words, and a little choir that sings once in a while, but the people just stand and occasionally cross themselves. I don't know how it's like in other EO churches. Well I'm not saying this is horrible or anything, because of course God looks at our hearts and a person can stand there in DL and love God and worship Him in that way! Of course. But I'd love to actually say my prayers out loud or to sing along with the choir. There's more that goes on of course, there's Communion and confession and people light candles and venerate icons and things like that. That's all totally fine with me, in fact I like it. I also love how the church looks like and the icons in general; it's like the Bible in pictures..it helps think of all the saints and Apostles and events in the Bible. And God of course. ;) And I always feel a deep sense of humility in that church.

But I remember I was there on Easter...it was actually a very beautiful service...but I wanted to participate somehow, and couldn't. They say that in DL we join the saints and angels in their worship in a great procession. And that may well be true!! I believe it is. But I wanted to express to God how I was feeling and there was no way to do that. Eventually I just felt tired and not thankful anymore (it was Easter so I was thinking about His sacrifice)..and then I saw these two people who looked soo filled with the Spirit and in real worship..and I wished I could be like them. Well I found some of that in my non denom church. And now God wants me to go back LOL... well maybe it'll be different with Communion. I have to say that's what I'm looking forward to the most. Maybe that'll affect my experience of DL as well. I hope so!! The last time I went, I didn't really know God that well. (not that I know Him perfectly now lol I still have far to go).

That sounds really awesome what God is doing in the catholic charismatic renewal...
I wish there was something similar in the EO church, but from what I hear they are pretty much against it.
I even asked ;)
I'd say that the EO church definitely has the Holy Spirit and there are so many miracles and things that happen there. So God is really working there too. :) but I kinda wish I could speak in tongues there.

In my church you can usually tell the converts from the 'cradles' as they're called ;) because it's an ethnic (Russian) church and whoever speaks in perfect English is usually a convert from Protestantism or something. And they always look like they're really 'into' the worship and are really attentive. But many (not all!) of the 'cradles' just stand around and chat quietly with their family members during the service. Maybe they're just very used to the Liturgy and it has lost some of its beauty to them. There are people like that in every church, who grew up with Christianity but never reached a point of really caring about it. Well now I'm thinking maybe if there was such a thing as the Orthodox Charismatic Renewal (hehe) that could help these people get back into their faith. ..I guess there isn't and probably won't be. But LOL I kinda wish there was!!

[CatholicFlame]

Yeah things are coming together Monica. It will just take time and prayer. But I know one thing, God is calling you to this. You are indeed going to be greatly blessed. After all, would the Lord call you and then dissapoint you?

Never.


praise the Lord... it is still a little mysterious though huh?

Well let's see what happens next sis!!!

what do you think Peaceful dove?

[CatholicFlame]

I am praying for you Monica, and I won't stop!

God bless you in Jesus

amen... (still praying here)

[MoNiCa4316]

That's true, God never disappoints :) He knows what He's doing. That's the only reason I've decided to go ahead with this..even though I don't understand it at all.

:)

[MoNiCa4316]

I am praying for you Monica, and I won't stop!

God bless you in Jesus

amen... (still praying here)

aw thanks! :hug: I really do appreciate that.
God bless you too

[HowardDean]

:amen:

[Peaceful Dove]

I am making some really good threads visible for discussion.

[CatholicFlame]

Monica,

Happy New year to you!
What have you been up to? I am speaking of the eucharist of course. Has His big day come yet?

God Bless you sis!!!

[EyezOFire]

I'd like to share somethings concerning words of knowledge. God is so gracious, and I am blessed to go to a church (non denom church) who really has a heart to see the kingdom of God transform not just people on the inside of the church but also those lost. We used to about a year ago do power evangelism we would go into public places. Prior to our going out we would just lie down in stillness and ask the Lord who would he like for us to minister to and where would He have us go. One night we went out to our mall, a small group of a few people, and the Lord showed me that a blonde haired girl with a pony tail would be in Forever 21 which is a popular store. So I'm like think Okay God thats going to be like everyone in there. LOL So we get to the mall and the 1st store I go into is that store. Not a single blonde girl in sight. So I get to this one section in the store and all of a sudden my lower back just starts burning like fire. Just in that one part of the store ! NO where else, but the problem there is no blonde girl with a pony tail. I even look up to make sure I'm not standing in front of heating vent. So I'm like well thats weird, I must have missed it, so I leave and as I approached the door, a blonde haired girl walks in , but she doesnt have a pony tail, and I'm like yup I missed it, and the Lord said no that's the one, so I go back in, and the girl makes her way over to where I felt that fire on my lower back. So I asked a girl in the group to go with me to approach this girl , you know for wisdom purposes and, I say- I know this is going to sound weird, but we are Christians and we were praying this evening and we felt like THe Lord told us to come in here and pray for a blonde haired girl, then I said by the way do you have lower back trouble, and I pointed in my back and told her what happened. Well I dont know if she got healed, we prayed for healing but we prayed for her sister, her and asked her if she knew Jesus, she said she did, I believed her but I dont think she was walking with the Lord fully. She told me she hurt her back the prior week getting drunk. So we blessed her and left the store. I just really sensed at the time and still do the Lord was reminding her that He knew where she was in her life and what she was doing...

[CatholicFlame]

So eyez, you are in the healing ministry then?

I can see that you are a prophet. Do you know about the revelations of Marie Faustina? It seems to me that the healing ministry in itself is a God ordained mandate to seek out those who are in need of Divine Mercy. I am not sure why I have thought of Sister Faustina while typing this to you but I could not resist what I felt the Lord was guiding me to.

God bless you very much my brother.

[Peaceful Dove]

I'd like to share somethings concerning words of knowledge. God is so gracious, and I am blessed to go to a church (non denom church) who really has a heart to see the kingdom of God transform not just people on the inside of the church but also those lost. We used to about a year ago do power evangelism we would go into public places. Prior to our going out we would just lie down in stillness and ask the Lord who would he like for us to minister to and where would He have us go. One night we went out to our mall, a small group of a few people, and the Lord showed me that a blonde haired girl with a pony tail would be in Forever 21 which is a popular store. So I'm like think Okay God thats going to be like everyone in there. LOL So we get to the mall and the 1st store I go into is that store. Not a single blonde girl in sight. So I get to this one section in the store and all of a sudden my lower back just starts burning like fire. Just in that one part of the store ! NO where else, but the problem there is no blonde girl with a pony tail. I even look up to make sure I'm not standing in front of heating vent. So I'm like well thats weird, I must have missed it, so I leave and as I approached the door, a blonde haired girl walks in , but she doesnt have a pony tail, and I'm like yup I missed it, and the Lord said no that's the one, so I go back in, and the girl makes her way over to where I felt that fire on my lower back. So I asked a girl in the group to go with me to approach this girl , you know for wisdom purposes and, I say- I know this is going to sound weird, but we are Christians and we were praying this evening and we felt like THe Lord told us to come in here and pray for a blonde haired girl, then I said by the way do you have lower back trouble, and I pointed in my back and told her what happened. Well I dont know if she got healed, we prayed for healing but we prayed for her sister, her and asked her if she knew Jesus, she said she did, I believed her but I dont think she was walking with the Lord fully. She told me she hurt her back the prior week getting drunk. So we blessed her and left the store. I just really sensed at the time and still do the Lord was reminding her that He knew where she was in her life and what she was doing...


That is awesome!
Tell, me, has this happened again?

I was at a huge Catholic Charismatic Conference. A Priest named Father Robert Farici was ministering in the main Arena at the Anaheim Convention Center in So. California. This Priest has a tremendous gift of the Word of Knowledge. At any rate, he was praying over the crowd for a Fresh Outpouring of the Holy Spirit and NEW Gifts. I felt a big annointing when he prayed.
There were maybe 5000 people at that one workshop and I know most received the same annointing.

Anyway, after the conference that night, we were in groups outside praying over people. As I laid hands on one person, I experienced severe pain in a part of my body. Each person we prayed for I picked up more pain. It was getting pretty bad. Finally we started praying over this one older man and I got the most excrciating chest pain. It knocked me to the ground and had me crying, sobbing acually. I was in terrible pain from head to foot but mostly in my chest. A Priest from the Charismatic Renewal came running up. The group told him what was happening. He knelt along side me and started praying over me. Then he started quietly telling me to release it. Give it to Jesus. I tried it and by golly, it started easing off me. As he prayed and guided me into releasing all of this, he also started teaching me about this type of manifestation of the Gift of the Word of Knowledge. I learned that sometimes, God would show me exactly what someone was feeling, then identify the root cause and that I could release it. it would show my Prayer Partner, a person with the Gift of Healing, what to pray for.

I prayed this way with my Prayer Partner for many years. Every time the Lord gave me a "word" either this way or just the name of a need, it was 100%
on target.

I am telling you this so that you will know what you experienced is a manifestation of a precious gift of the Holy Spirit. Thank the Lord for it and allow Him to use it.

[EyezOFire]

Words of knowledge for healing, in some instances you can physically feel tha pain in your body. For example, say you are with someone, and all of a sudden you ankle starts to hurt, for no reason at all, you just start feeling pain or an ache. And you know it wasnt the result of your doing, because you felt fine a moment ago, ask the Lord if he is trying to show you soemthing, then maybe just ask your friend is your ankle hurting you lately ? If they say yes you can explain to them what the Lord may doing, that will help build their faith. If no then it may be for someone in that area.. Also sometimes God will show you the condition by a picture in your minds eye. For instance a liver or arm or whatever the case maybe. You also may look at someone and just KNOW their condition. Sometimes the Holy Spirit may place a word in front of your minds eye like. For example, "Cancer." I hope this helps and builds everyones faith.

[EyezOFire]

Thank you, I'll have to check her out. I would like to recommend a really cool book also. It's called When Heaven Invades Earth by Bill Johnson, based on the Lords Prayer "thy Kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven."

[CatholicFlame]

Thank you brother. I really do want His kingdom on earth as it is in Heaven.

peace be with you

in His love,

Ben

[MoNiCa4316]

wow those are awesome stories EyezOFire and Peaceful Dove! :clap: God is using you both in powerful ways!

[MoNiCa4316]

Monica,

Happy New year to you!
What have you been up to? I am speaking of the eucharist of course. Has His big day come yet?

God Bless you sis!!!

Happy New Year to you too! :)
The 'big day'...hopefully the 7th! ..I hope! If the priest will let me and I won't have to wait..

I was away at a conference for about a week...it wasn't charismatic; but interdenominational. I did meet some Pentecostals though, and some Catholics ;) we all worshipped God together...it was an awesome conference!

:)

[Peaceful Dove]

Here is another look at Word Gifts.
Something we should all be praying about.

[Peaceful Dove]

I felt this morning as if the Holy Spirit was urging me to keep this thread out before you.

How are the word gifts being manifested in your Prayer Community?

I have to say that our newer Charismatics in our Prayer Group are not experiencing much yet.

We need to pray for these gifts, I think,

[CatholicFlame]

It takes alot of faith to beleive that God is going to speka through you! I remember the first time I ever prophesied at a conference. WOW. I was just sitting there after all the praising and then they started to call up people who had a word to share. And so I was just listening and then, I felt like God was saying something to me!

LOL well I was so not sure though! But lol, it was like one after another of the people who were speaking after that were practically telling me to come up and share the word I had!

So I knoew I had a choice and so yeah, I wasn't even sure what was going to happen. But I went up and yeah, the word was very beautiful, it was albout God's love for everyone there.

But it takes alot of trust and some kind of faith that God would actualy speak through a mere person.

[Peaceful Dove]

I recevied the Gift of the Word of Knowlege very suddenly after Father Faricy praying over the group at SCRC for a freshening of the Holy Spirit. It was an assembly where most of the folks there were already Baptised in the Holy Spirit and had some maturity.

I don't know how many of you have sat under Father Faricy's teaching and prayer but he has amazing gifts. Please pray that God keeps him healthy. He turned 82 around the time he celebrated a Healing Mass and gave the last session of our Life in the Spirit Seminar last summer.
I learned about Pastoral Gifts early on in my Charismatic walk with the Lord. They are special gifts given at Ordination and are really vital to the community.

I believe that is one reason Pastoral involvment is so important with Charismatic Groups. Their gift of discernment is usually very powerful.

Just another reason why I am so delighted that Father Rick is one of our CCR family.

[isabella1]

It takes alot of faith to beleive that God is going to speka through you! I remember the first time I ever prophesied at a conference. WOW. I was just sitting there after all the praising and then they started to call up people who had a word to share. And so I was just listening and then, I felt like God was saying something to me!

LOL well I was so not sure though! But lol, it was like one after another of the people who were speaking after that were practically telling me to come up and share the word I had!

So I knoew I had a choice and so yeah, I wasn't even sure what was going to happen. But I went up and yeah, the word was very beautiful, it was albout God's love for everyone there.

But it takes alot of trust and some kind of faith that God would actualy speak through a mere person.
I agree with you CF. Trust and Faith. For me, I have a hard time giving out the word I believe I received. I get a little nervous when the Lord uses me in that way. Sometimes I will even say to Him "Lord, who an I to tell them that?"

I have to usually take it into prayer ask our Lord for confirmation, and test the spirits. If it is of Him, he confirms it. Sometimes he confirms it by showing me it is not to be given out but only for me to pray for that person or group. This is really hard for me, because you know something and can't share it.

In my much younger years, I was disobedient just by my own ignorance, and shared what I was not suppose to. Thats when everything hits the fan. People immediately want to know who told you, because they have intrusted a confidence in someone and feel the person they entrusted broke their confidence.

Not everyone believes in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. So I have learned by error, to be obedient.

I do have a couple of people I can take the word I receive to, and they help me discern it, or they unite with me in prayer.

Have you ever found you had to deal with a word you were ever given in this manner, to keep it silent I mean? Peace and Blessings.

[CatholicFlame]

Have you ever found you had to deal with a word you were ever given in this manner, to keep it silent I mean? Peace and Blessings.

Yes sometimes I feel like God tells me the whole honest truth but of course you can't just share the whole truth with someone. It is like our Lord wants us to learn to speak the truth in a compassionate way.

[isabella1]

Yes sometimes I feel like God tells me the whole honest truth but of course you can't just share the whole truth with someone. It is like our Lord wants us to learn to speak the truth in a compassionate way.
Yes compassion. Hummmmm. I think people forget that. A word can really effect someone in a not so positive way sometimes. I think we get really excited when we get a word first starting out, and forget to discern it. Not just discern the word, but also its content and if it is to be given out. If it is not edifying and building for the person or group, it shouldnt be given out, and just prayed for or about. That is what I have been taught anyhow. Peace and blessings.

[JacktheCatholic]

Great thread... let us keep it going. :D

[Peaceful Dove]

Lets name off the word gifts for folks to contemplate.

Of course the most common is our Prayer Language.
Then all three or four types of tongues.

Interpretation of Tongues,

Prophesy

Word of Knowledge

Word of Wisdom.

Any others?

[isabella1]

Prophesy is a hard one for me. Not to accept that it is a gift, but for me personally to give it out. There are very few I am allowed to give out. Or would even willingly give out without the approval from spiritual direction. The Lord may give me and show me a lot, but to give it out or share it, makes me feel so uneasy. People look at you as though you are one cut short of the marquette. Or even more, that you just got out of the nut house. Any thoughts or suggestions on this? Peace and Blessings.

[Peaceful Dove]

Do you usually give Prophesy at a Prayer Meeting or in some other way.

I think it was Fr. Rick who said Word of Knowledge and Word of Wisdom was part of the Prophetic Gifts.
We tend to put them separately under word gifts but I have to agree with Fr Rick, they sound prophetic.

[JacktheCatholic]

Prophesy is a hard one for me. Not to accept that it is a gift, but for me personally to give it out. There are very few I am allowed to give out. Or would even willingly give out without the approval from spiritual direction. The Lord may give me and show me a lot, but to give it out or share it, makes me feel so uneasy. People look at you as though you are one cut short of the marquette. Or even more, that you just got out of the nut house. Any thoughts or suggestions on this? Peace and Blessings.

LOL

I am the 'weird' one in my family so I speak out most of the time. :)

[isabella1]

Do you usually give Prophesy at a Prayer Meeting or in some other way.

I think it was Fr. Rick who said Word of Knowledge and Word of Wisdom was part of the Prophetic Gifts.
We tend to put them separately under word gifts but I have to agree with Fr Rick, they sound prophetic.
Well, thats the whole thing Peaceful, I get it and don't give it out. I save it for in spiritual direction to talk about.

Sometimes I receive it at the prayer meeting, sometimes during my days of fast and adoration, sometimes just in prayer. It is always during a time of prayer though. I am just to apprehensive to give it out.

My Spiritual Director told me, I can give it out only if it builds and edifies. If it is anything else, I must not speak it out. I need to keep it written down (which I can discus with him if needed), and keep it in prayer for that person or group.

But I still am pretty shy about giving it out even if it builds and edifies.

I guess that is just how it is for me. Maybe thats the way the Lord wants it right now. Not sure. Peace and Blessings.

[isabella1]

LOL

I am the 'weird' one in my family so I speak out most of the time. :)
He He. Wish I could be more like that.

[Peaceful Dove]

Well, thats the whole thing Peaceful, I get it and don't give it out. I save it for in spiritual direction to talk about.

Sometimes I receive it at the prayer meeting, sometimes during my days of fast and adoration, sometimes just in prayer. It is always during a time of prayer though. I am just to apprehensive to give it out.

My Spiritual Director told me, I can give it out only if it builds and edifies. If it is anything else, I must not speak it out. I need to keep it written down (which I can discus with him if needed), and keep it in prayer for that person or group.

But I still am pretty shy about giving it out even if it builds and edifies.

I guess that is just how it is for me. Maybe thats the way the Lord wants it right now. Not sure. Peace and Blessings.

Is your Spiritual Director Charismatic??
Do you all know that Abbot David over in San Luis Obispo California has a School for Charismatic Spiritual Directors?
We need more Charismatics called to this special ministry.

[isabella1]

Is your Spiritual Director Charismatic??
Do you all know that Abbot David over in San Luis Obispo California has a School for Charismatic Spiritual Directors?
We need more Charismatics called to this special ministry.
Yes, He is a Charismatic Priest, with vary special charisms. He was in Rome for a while at the Vatican on a special assignment.

I believe this is part of me learning total abandonment to God and obedience. I guess without knowing my whole history, it might not be understood why he would keep me somewhat silent. There again, this i can't talk about. Of course we all have free will, but I am certain I would botch it up taking matters in my own hands. I have been under his direction for a few years now. I feel vary humbled that he even took me on in direction. Because of the demands on his schedule and the other people he directs, he isn't able to take new people on in Spiritual Direction. So I consider it a kiss on the cheek from God. I had been searching for a while, and no-one appeared to be appropriate (not by my choice, it was Holy Spirit led).

Regarding the things I get from the Holy Spirit that I am able to give out (that build and edify), I can't overcome how shy I feel to give it to the person or group. Its like I will go to speak it out, and the doubt sets in, and then the moment passes. Even when it is really strong, I write it down and give it to the prayer group leader, for her to give it out, if she chooses. (Maybe its a public speaking thing, now that I think about it? Never thought about that before.)
Peace and Blessings.

[freedomnchrist]

PeacefulDove.....I just noticed this thread!!!!


Yippeeee......let's get it a rolling!!!

[Peaceful Dove]

PeacefulDove.....I just noticed this thread!!!!


Yippeeee......let's get it a rolling!!!

Lovely, isn't it!!!

[MoNiCa4316]

I love this thread! :D wow...I was different...haha... this feels kinda surreal to read!!!