North American Union MUST READ!!

[SaintPhotios]

Hey guys... this should be one of this election's biggest issues. But is isn't. This is a very grim look at our country's future. If Ron Paul doesn't win, I honestly don't know if we'll be safe here.

MUST READ!!

http://www.nicenetruth.com/home/2007...-american.html (http://www.nicenetruth.com/home/2007/12/north-american.html)

[gorion]

Ron Paul has zero chance of winning.

[vanshan]

I read the first half of the article, but I must admit I really don't understand the concern. The United States is a nation, like all others before her, which had a beginning and will have an end. We must not tie too much concern to the name on our currency, since we are part of a much greater eternal kingdom, the Heavenly Jerusalem. We should always struggle to protect the innocent and stand up for justice, whether that be under the Roman Empire, the U.S.A., or the North American Union.

Basil

[Akathist]

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[Dorothea]

I've heard a lot about this North American Union lately...well, for the past couple months on Michael Medved's radio show. Every week, once a week, he has a special show called "Conspiracy Day." So, all these people call in with nutty and bizarre conspiracy theories, and more often than not, the NAU is brought up. This topic seems to drive Medved crazy. LOL He keeps challenging any of the callers to tell him of just ONE U.S. politican that is in favor of it. Nobody comes up with anyone but Vicente Fox, who is not a US politician. LOL So, he thinks it's all just a bunch of hooey. I don't know. I know what it's about, but I don't feel worried that it's going to happen.

[repentant]

How can the inevitable be a conspiracy? What is sad is we just let them usher in the antichrist...

[Dorothea]

How can the inevitable be a conspiracy? What is sad is we just let them usher in the antichrist...
What do you mean, repentant?

[SaintPhotios]

What do you mean, repentant?
I don't want to speak for him, but I think he's right.... I mean technically speaking, it is a conspiracy in the sense that it's a group of people planning it together. But some people, when they think of conspiracies, they think of something done in secret apart of public view. But the North American Union is something openly admitted by our officials. As the article I posted shows, it's not secret. People aren't doing the research to realize it. But the CFR, the White House, and the governments of all nations involved openly admit the beginning stages of a North American Union. So anyone that doubts that our leaders are working towards a North American Union simply haven't looked at the published, publically available facts.

[Vasileios]

Most of Europe has one currency now and sooner than later the whole continent will be using the Euro.

The North American Union will bring the Amero.

Similar steps are being taken for Asia and Africa.

These are obvious steps towards the centralised economy, when all people will deal in the same currency and those who will not want to be part of it, will simply not be able to buy or sell legally in this world market.

I believe this is what repentant is talking about.

[Dorothea]

I don't want to speak for him, but I think he's right.... I mean technically speaking, it is a conspiracy in the sense that it's a group of people planning it together. But some people, when they think of conspiracies, they think of something done in secret apart of public view. But the North American Union is something openly admitted by our officials. As the article I posted shows, it's not secret. People aren't doing the research to realize it. But the CFR, the White House, and the governments of all nations involved openly admit the beginning stages of a North American Union. So anyone that doubts that our leaders are working towards a North American Union simply haven't looked at the published, publically available facts.
Wow. That's interesting because Medved said there's absolutely NOTHING going on with this NAU. He said that not one political person serving in office in the US has agreed to this NAU. I tend to believe Medved, as he is extremely intelligent, researches a lot, and knows a lot regarding history and such. I'm not arguing with you, as I really don't have a strong opinion on this matter. I just found yours and other's views here in strong contrast to Medved on this issue.

[Dorothea]

Most of Europe has one currency now and sooner than later the whole continent will be using the Euro.

The North American Union will bring the Amero.

Similar steps are being taken for Asia and Africa.

These are obvious steps towards the centralised economy, when all people will deal in the same currency and those who will not want to be part of it, will simply not be able to buy or sell legally in this world market.

I believe this is what repentant is talking about.
Wow. I guess I have a hard time believing Americans would change their currency. :confused: :o Not doubting what you're saying at all, Vasileios. I saw it happened in Europe....

Our bishop talked about a New World Order and the currency thingy when he was here back in September. That he believed this would be happening sometime in the near future.

[repentant]

What do you mean, repentant?

Most of Europe has one currency now and sooner than later the whole continent will be using the Euro.

The North American Union will bring the Amero.

Similar steps are being taken for Asia and Africa.

These are obvious steps towards the centralised economy, when all people will deal in the same currency and those who will not want to be part of it, will simply not be able to buy or sell legally in this world market.

I believe this is what repentant is talking about.

^^^

[repentant]

Wow. That's interesting because Medved said there's absolutely NOTHING going on with this NAU. He said that not one political person serving in office in the US has agreed to this NAU. I tend to believe Medved, as he is extremely intelligent, researches a lot, and knows a lot regarding history and such. I'm not arguing with you, as I really don't have a strong opinion on this matter. I just found yours and other's views here in strong contrast to Medved on this issue.

CNN of all channels did a report on it...and it was not a favorable story, which is why it surprised me...Medved, whoever he is, is completely wrong..

watch this and tell me we don't need Ron Paul...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA

[Dorothea]

SPP was brought up a few times by a few callers. Medved said he's looked at the site online. Says it's not accurate.

When was this report? I am quite surprised that this was on CNN and no other news networks? How come nobody else is making noise over this besides this one news report on CNN? I thought that Paul was for the NAU. ???

[repentant]

SPP was brought up a few times by a few callers. Medved said he's looked at the site online. Says it's not accurate.

When was this report? I am quite surprised that this was on CNN and no other news networks? How come nobody else is making noise over this besides this one news report on CNN? I thought that Paul was for the NAU. ???


maybe Medved is in on it...it is accurate..as far as why no one else reported it, who knows.

And heck no is Paul for the NAU..are you kidding me?

[Dorothea]

Here's some of Medved's beliefs on NAU. And if you go to the link, you can listen to one of his shows...every week, one day in that week, he has conspiracy day.

On the Michael Medved Show, we'll continue to confront reality frankly and fearlessly - without trying to scare you over meaningless and hallucinogenic threats like a "North American Union" or a "Monster Highway" or a secret plan for "New World Order." (http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/b4119746-9434-4f7b-a4fe-7caa91fee062)

http://www.michaelmedved.com/newsmaker/files/-657035189786902/010407-1.html

[repentant]

Ok Medved is a radio talk show host..not the king of all that is true...it exists, and Bush signed the bill (SPP)...not really going to debate this anymore...

[Dorothea]

Ok

[repentant]

Hey Dorothea sorry. I don't meant to be mean. I am trying not to be mean on here anymore, especially to other EOC's. That other thread had me boiling. But anyway, the PCC exists..the NAU is inevitable..

[Vasileios]

The thing is, even if it doesn't work out (which as I understand it is already being done), why isn't anybody making a huge deal out of it, even just for the idea?

It is a HUGE matter, obviously serious, important and influential people want it to happen and yet the media don't care to even mention it.

The discussions about the Euro lasted ages. Some countries had to vote specifically about its acceptance. But in the US, you are not even told about it.

It is worrying, isn't it?

[Dorothea]

Hey Dorothea sorry. I don't meant to be mean. I am trying not to be mean on here anymore, especially to other EOC's. That other thread had me boiling. But anyway, the PCC exists..the NAU is inevitable..
:hug: It's all right. I believe you that it exists. :)

[Dorothea]

The thing is, even if it doesn't work out (which as I understand it is already being done), why isn't anybody making a huge deal out of it, even just for the idea?

It is a HUGE matter, obviously serious, important and influential people want it to happen and yet the media don't care to even mention it.

The discussions about the Euro lasted ages. Some countries had to vote specifically about its acceptance. But in the US, you are not even told about it.

It is worrying, isn't it?
Well, now that you put it that way. ;) :P Yeah, it's worrying. :o

[buzuxi02]

Whats wrong with a North American union? It will open commerce to more people. Its basically for more open markets, which is good.

As far as a one world government, i find it ironic that the evil component of such a thing is a single miliary which was achieved years ago and is currently expanding called NATO. But everyone loves them.

[SaintPhotios]

Whats wrong with a North American union? It will open commerce to more people. Its basically for more open markets, which is good.

As far as a one world government, i find it ironic that the evil component of such a thing is a single miliary which was achieved years ago and is currently expanding called NATO. But everyone loves them.
no.... it's killing American jobs by allowing domestic companies outsource jobs without the deterant of tariffs. The NAU is great for the other nations and American corporations... but it will kill the average American worker.


As far as a one world government, i find it ironic that the evil component of such a thing is a single miliary which was achieved years ago and is currently expanding called NATO. But everyone loves them.

not everyone....I think most of us fighting against the NAU right now are probably fighting against NATO and the UN as well.

[Dorothea]

The UN is worthless, imo. :sorry:

[Vasileios]

buzuxi. according to St. John the most evil component of this one government will be the inevitably to conduct commerce unless you are signed into the system by being "marked", whatever that is, an invisible tatoo or a chip or whatever.

The NAU is a huge building block for that monstrosity to become reality. That is why it's bad.

As the elder Paisios has said and so many elder before him, "the people will want to be marked, they will desire to be part of the system, it will be comfort for them".