Dr. Charles Stanley

[HappyChicken]

I have had to miss church the past few weeks because my daughter has had an infection and has been contagious. I attend a Baptist Church.... I have missed going to church and hearing the weekly message. On TBN, I have been trying to find shows that I think are good. Most of the pastors on there have something about them that "rubs me the wrong way"...for lack of better words. I have, however, been watching Dr. Charles Stanley. He seems pretty good. I was wondering what everyones thought on his teachings here were. I don't want to pay too much attention to someone that might put the wrong ideas about God in my head.

[jds1977]

From what I've heard, he's pretty straight.

[HappyChicken]

that is the impression i got too. thanks

[Canuckmom]

I can't answer your question, but when you're house bound and want something good to listen to you might try www.sermonaudio.com (http://www.sermonaudio.com) There are many speakers to choose from.

[HappyChicken]

That sounds awesome though i dont have speakers on this pc. :*(

[WarEagle]

]I have had to miss church the past few weeks because my daughter has had an infection and has been contagious.[/COLOR]

I'll keep her in my prayers.

On TBN, I have been trying to find shows that I think are good.

Now there's a challenge.

I have, however, been watching Dr. Charles Stanley. He seems pretty good. I was wondering what everyones thought on his teachings here were. I don't want to pay too much attention to someone that might put the wrong ideas about God in my head.

Doctrinally he's right on the money. I'm not a real big fan of his preaching style, though.

He has a lot of good things to say, he's just kind of annoying.

[daveleau]

My wife attended his church when she lived in Atlanta before we got married.

He is one of the best conservative Baptist teachers in the country. IMO, he is the premier Baptist pastor now that Adrian Rogers is with the Lord.

There are a lot of ear ticklers and name-it-claim-it preachers on TBN. Charles Stanley is one of the few good preachers on TBN that does not give in to these problemed teachings. He sticks strictly to Scripture.

[christian73]

I agree with daveleau on this. Dr. Stanley is as good as they come. I think he explains things very well.

[MsScarlett]

He's actually one of the few who doesn't rub me the wrong way. We must think alike!

[RED that's ME]

I like listening to him too. He teaches on a understand level and applicable to everyday life. :)

[Koontzy]

I also like Charles Stanley... and have attended his church a few times, but I agree with a above post, his preaching style isnt my favorite...

I also hate that he is on TBN... .wish he would get off that ungodly network..

[HappyChicken]

Thanks for all the feedback!!!

[HappyChicken]

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I'll keep her in my prayers.



Now there's a challenge.



Doctrinally he's right on the money. I'm not a real big fan of his preaching style, though.

He has a lot of good things to say, he's just kind of annoying.
Thanks for the prayers for naomi. she is better now. I took her to the doctor to make sure that she is completely healed. Praise the Lord!

[PrincetonGuy]

The Grace Evangelical Society teaches a view of salvation that evolved in the 19th century but was not commonly preached or taught till the latter part of the 20th century. According to their view, repentance from sin is NOT necessary for salvation and to teach that it is necessary for salvation is to preach a different gospel than the gospel taught by Christ and the writers of the New Testament. They also deny that obedience to Christ is not necessary for salvation as long as a person has at one point in his life believed on an intellectual basis, to at least some extent, that Jesus is the Son of God.

The Grace Evangelical Society lists Charles Stanley and his church, the First Baptist Church of Atlanta, as a “Free Grace Church.”

If you believe that the Bible is so very poorly worded that no one was able to understand what it teaches about salvation until the 19th century, and so very poorly worded that the vast majority of conservative, Bible-believing Baptist pastors today still cannot understand what it teaches about salvation, Charles Stanley and his doctrine of salvation should not trouble you.

Visit the website for which I have provided below the link and see for yourself how very few churches in the United States agree with Charles Stanley and his doctrine of salvation.

http://www.gotell.gracenet.org/find_a_church.htm

[HappyChicken]

The Grace Evangelical Society teaches a view of salvation that evolved in the 19th century but was not commonly preached or taught till the latter part of the 20th century. According to their view, repentance from sin is NOT necessary for salvation and to teach that it is necessary for salvation is to preach a different gospel than the gospel taught by Christ and the writers of the New Testament. They also deny that obedience to Christ is not necessary for salvation as long as a person has at one point in his life believed on an intellectual basis, to at least some extent, that Jesus is the Son of God.

The Grace Evangelical Society lists Charles Stanley and his church, the First Baptist Church of Atlanta, as a “Free Grace Church.”

If you believe that the Bible is so very poorly worded that no one was able to understand what it teaches about salvation until the 19th century, and so very poorly worded that the vast majority of conservative, Bible-believing Baptist pastors today still cannot understand what it teaches about salvation, Charles Stanley and his doctrine of salvation should not trouble you.

Visit the website for which I have provided below the link and see for yourself how very few churches in the United States agree with Charles Stanley and his doctrine of salvation.

http://www.gotell.gracenet.org/find_a_church.htm (http://www.gotell.gracenet.org/find_a_church.htm)


I find it kind of odd that you claim this about him....the other day he was talking about how God punishes disobedience. That was not his exact words.... I heard the same message on 2 different channels. It was a message about backsliding... I wish I could remember his exact words, but I can't. But it contradicted what you say here.

[Argent]

Dr. Charles Stanley preaches sound doctrine from an arminian perspective (he's not a Calvinist). He is one of the great truth preachers of today.

[PrincetonGuy]

I find it kind of odd that you claim this about him....the other day he was talking about how God punishes disobedience. That was not his exact words.... I heard the same message on 2 different channels. It was a message about backsliding... I wish I could remember his exact words, but I can't. But it contradicted what you say here.

There is no contradiction. Charles Stanley has preached many fine sermons on the atonement of Christ and how Christ’s atonement for our sins frees us from bondage to sin. He has also preached many fine sermons on the consequences of failure to obey Christ. Nonetheless, he does NOT preach or teach that obedience to Christ is necessary for salvation.

[eldermike]

Dr. Charles Stanley preaches sound doctrine from an arminian perspective (he's not a Calvinist). He is one of the great truth preachers of today.
Have you read "eternal security" by Him?

[prgallo]

Dr. Charles Stanley preaches sound doctrine from an arminian perspective (he's not a Calvinist). He is one of the great truth preachers of today.
True he is not a Calvinist, also not Arminian. Many of us don't neatly fit into either one of those belief systems or doctrine very well.

BTW, I'm a member of FBA and really enjoy his preaching style. But it isn't for everyone.

ttyl

P.S. I know you said from an Arminian perspective but I thought some people would take that to encompass some of the Arminian doctrine that really doesn't apply to Dr. Stanley.

[PrincetonGuy]

Dr. Charles Stanley preaches sound doctrine from an arminian perspective (he's not a Calvinist). He is one of the great truth preachers of today.

Dr. Charles Stanley’s theology is a hodgepodge of Arminianism, Calvinism and Zane Hodgeism and these three “isms” contradict each other. James Arminius taught that good works are necessary for salvation; John Calvin taught that good works are not necessary for salvation but will always accompany salvation; Zane Hodges teaches that good works are not necessary for salvation and that they may or may not accompany salvation. On this particular point, Dr. Charles Stanley agrees 100% percent with Zane Hodges and a few other theologians beginning in the latter part of the 19th century.

For a rebuttal of the theology of Zane Hodges see the following link:

http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/doctrine/hodgesho.htm (http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/doctrine/hodgesho.htm)

[eldermike]

True he is not a Calvinist, also not Arminian. Many of us don't neatly fit into either one of those belief systems or doctrine very well.

BTW, I'm a member of FBA and really enjoy his preaching style. But it isn't for everyone.

ttyl

P.S. I know you said from an Arminian perspective but I thought some people would take that to encompass some of the Arminian doctrine that really doesn't apply to Dr. Stanley.
That's accurate IMO. He clearly holds and teaches eternal security and original sin.

[eldermike]

Dr. Charles Stanley’s theology is a hodgepodge of Arminianism, Calvinism and Zane Hodgeism and these three “isms” contradict each other. James Arminius taught that good works are necessary for salvation; John Calvin taught that good works are not necessary for salvation but will always accompany salvation; Zane Hodges teaches that good works are not necessary for salvation and that they may or may not accompany salvation. On this particular point, Dr. Charles Stanley agrees 100% percent with Zane Hodges and a few other theologians beginning in the latter part of the 19th century.

For a rebuttal of the theology of Zane Hodges see the following link:

http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/doctrine/hodgesho.htm (http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/doctrine/hodgesho.htm)
Can you find me a citation for his 100 percent agreement with Hodges Theology? Or is this on a single point within his Theology but a rebutal of all of it?

[PrincetonGuy]

Can you find me a citation for his 100 percent agreement with Hodges Theology? Or is this on a single point within his Theology but a rebutal of all of it?

Dr. Charles Stanley’s theology is a hodgepodge of Arminianism, Calvinism and Zane Hodgeism and these three “isms” contradict each other. James Arminius taught that good works are necessary for salvation; John Calvin taught that good works are not necessary for salvation but will always accompany salvation; Zane Hodges teaches that good works are not necessary for salvation and that they may or may not accompany salvation. On this particular point, Dr. Charles Stanley agrees 100% percent with Zane Hodges and a few other theologians beginning in the latter part of the 19th century.

For a rebuttal of the soteriology of Zane Hodges see the following link:

http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/doctrine/hodgesho.htm (http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/doctrine/hodgesho.htm)

[HappyChicken]

He has also preached many fine sermons on the consequences of failure to obey Christ.

That is what I was trying to remember from that sermon.... he said "disobedience = consequences." Thanks!! I really enjoy his sermons... I really don't know a whole lot of Theology, or who this Armenius guy, or this Calvin guy, or this other "hodgepodge" stuff.... I just happen to enjoy this guy on television. It's hard to find a preacher on television who seems sincere.

[eldermike]

Dr. Charles Stanley’s theology is a hodgepodge of Arminianism, Calvinism and Zane Hodgeism and these three “isms” contradict each other. James Arminius taught that good works are necessary for salvation; John Calvin taught that good works are not necessary for salvation but will always accompany salvation; Zane Hodges teaches that good works are not necessary for salvation and that they may or may not accompany salvation. On this particular point, Dr. Charles Stanley agrees 100% percent with Zane Hodges and a few other theologians beginning in the latter part of the 19th century.

For a rebuttal of the soteriology of Zane Hodges see the following link:

http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/doctrine/hodgesho.htm (http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/doctrine/hodgesho.htm)
Correct me here, did you just circle me on my question?

I have no idea what you are trying to say here?

His Theology is wrong because you have a link to some other persons Theology?

[PrincetonGuy]

Correct me here, did you just circle me on my question?

I have no idea what you are trying to say here?

His Theology is wrong because you have a link to some other persons Theology?

Charles Stanley and Zane Hodges share an atypical view of soteriology. Zane Hodges is much better known for that particular view than is Charles Stanley and much has been written to refute the view and show the absurdity of it using Zane Hodges words. The article to which I posted a link explains very clearly why that view is contrary to the Biblical teaching of soteriology.

[Izdaari]

I am not particularly a Baptist (though I accepted Christ in a Baptist church when I was maybe 12), but I do like Dr. Stanley. I likely don't agree with him on all points of doctrine, but overall he's a very solid and a very gifted teacher. :thumbsup:

[Koontzy]

There is no contradiction. Charles Stanley has preached many fine sermons on the atonement of Christ and how Christ’s atonement for our sins frees us from bondage to sin. He has also preached many fine sermons on the consequences of failure to obey Christ. Nonetheless, he does NOT preach or teach that obedience to Christ is necessary for salvation.

Are you talking about Lordship salvation? where Christ is the Lord of everything we do......

He doesnt preach Lordship salvation, but I have heard him say that you will know those truely saved by their works(fruits). and that disobediance to Jesus results in punishment..

I like Charles, although like I said sometimes his preaching type isnt my style.

[prgallo]

Dr. Charles Stanley’s theology is a hodgepodge of Arminianism, Calvinism and Zane Hodgeism and these three “isms” contradict each other. James Arminius taught that good works are necessary for salvation; John Calvin taught that good works are not necessary for salvation but will always accompany salvation; Zane Hodges teaches that good works are not necessary for salvation and that they may or may not accompany salvation. On this particular point, Dr. Charles Stanley agrees 100% percent with Zane Hodges and a few other theologians beginning in the latter part of the 19th century.

For a rebuttal of the soteriology of Zane Hodges see the following link:

http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/doctrine/hodgesho.htm (http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/doctrine/hodgesho.htm)
If in fact these three isms where scripture you might be correct. However I don't believe Calvin or Arminian views are right on with scripture, they both deny some aspect of what the Bible teaches. Does that mean I believe in a hodge-podge? Because I don't subscribe to the teachings of these men?

I don't think so, but you are entitled to your opinion as we all are.

The third ism you mentioned I don't know about so I'll leave comments to others.

[greeker57married]

Are you talking about Lordship salvation? where Christ is the Lord of everything we do......

He doesnt preach Lordship salvation, but I have heard him say that you will know those truely saved by their works(fruits). and that disobediance to Jesus results in punishment..

I like Charles, although like I said sometimes his preaching type isnt my style.

Charles Stanley is saying that we are saved by grace through faith plus nothing else. there is no work man can do to saved himself because his works fall short of God's goodness. Works is the evidence of salvation not the means.

God Bless
Greeker

[TimRout]

I have had to miss church the past few weeks because my daughter has had an infection and has been contagious. I attend a Baptist Church.... I have missed going to church and hearing the weekly message. On TBN, I have been trying to find shows that I think are good. Most of the pastors on there have something about them that "rubs me the wrong way"...for lack of better words. I have, however, been watching Dr. Charles Stanley. He seems pretty good. I was wondering what everyones thought on his teachings here were. I don't want to pay too much attention to someone that might put the wrong ideas about God in my head.
Dr. Stanley's teaching is trustworthy.

[TexasSky]

He's one of the most respected ministers in Baptist circles.

[HappyChicken]

Also on his In Touch website....they have some free Bible studies...I have been enjoying them.

[mesue]

I love Charles Stanley. I have been listening to him since 1995. He was a key person that lead me into a right relationship with the Lord. He's very assurance oriented. Christ died for all of my sins and he loves me "No matter what" :)

[catch21wide]

From first hand experience, Dr. Charles Stanley is a magnificent preacher. He is a man of God. He teaches the inerrant Bible. To me, he ranks among the top 5 Baptist minister in the country. I have had the opportunity to hear him preacher a couple of times in the past and I have enjoyed all of them. If you could ever catch there music portion of the service, his minister of music is phenomenal. I hope i have helped you.

[HappyChicken]

From first hand experience, Dr. Charles Stanley is a magnificent preacher. He is a man of God. He teaches the inerrant Bible. To me, he ranks among the top 5 Baptist minister in the country. I have had the opportunity to hear him preacher a couple of times in the past and I have enjoyed all of them. If you could ever catch there music portion of the service, his minister of music is phenomenal. I hope i have helped you.

Wow! I have never had a chance to see the music portion of the service... What is it like???

[mlqurgw]

Though I have some severe theological differences with Stanley my biggest problem with him is that he rarely, if ever, preaches the person and work of Christ. His messages are " how to" and come across as good advice. I have listened to him many times and have found this to always be the case. Using the Bible isn't preaching the Bible. While there is a practical aspect to doctrine it isn't the focus of the Scriptures nor should it be of the message. Obviously I am not a fan.

[catch21wide]

Wow! I have never had a chance to see the music portion of the service... What is it like???
It is wonderful. The Music Minister at Dr. Stanley's church led the Music Ministry at First Baptist of Jacksonville, FL for 16 years. He managed a choir of over 200 and aways put together some of the best worship services I have ever been a part of.

[catch21wide]

Though I have some severe theological differences with Stanley my biggest problem with him is that he rarely, if ever, preaches the person and work of Christ. His messages are " how to" and come across as good advice. I have listened to him many times and have found this to always be the case. Using the Bible isn't preaching the Bible. While there is a practical aspect to doctrine it isn't the focus of the Scriptures nor should it be of the message. Obviously I am not a fan.
Dr. Stanley teaches how to be saved and walk in a Christ-like way. He is a conservative Southern baptist whom I have had the privilage of getting to know personally and I have had the chance to hear him preach and it is on the Word of God. Remember, in the beginning was the Word and the Word was God.

[HappyChicken]

I have really enjoyed watching him on television. I have learned alot. I have had a hard time understanding the Trinity doctrine, and I seen a sermon he gave on it and it helped me alot...along with an article that someone from here gave me.

[mlqurgw]

Dr. Stanley teaches how to be saved and walk in a Christ-like way. Which is exactly my point. He teaches " how to" but very little of why. His message is focused on man not on Christ. He is the message of the Scriptures not "how to". Christ didn't say come and learn "how to" but come and learn of Me. When I hear of Christ in all His glorious person and work I am moved to live in a manner honoring to Him. I don't need to be told how to act and live I have Christ. He is a conservative Southern baptist whom I have had the privilage of getting to know personally and I have had the chance to hear him preach and it is on the Word of God. His credentials mean nothing to me if he isn't preaching the Word. I think the key is your use of "on the Word" not the Word. He preaches on his ideas gained from the Word but not the Word. He focuses on what you ought to do rather than on what Christ has done. Remember, in the beginning was the Word and the Word was God. And if he ever starts actually preaching it I will be the first to line up and shake his hand.

[catch21wide]

Which is exactly my point. He teaches " how to" but very little of why. His message is focused on man not on Christ. He is the message of the Scriptures not "how to". Christ didn't say come and learn "how to" but come and learn of Me. When I hear of Christ in all His glorious person and work I am moved to live in a manner honoring to Him. I don't need to be told how to act and live I have Christ. His credentials mean nothing to me if he isn't preaching the Word. I think the key is your use of "on the Word" not the Word. He preaches on his ideas gained from the Word but not the Word. He focuses on what you ought to do rather than on what Christ has done. And if he ever starts actually preaching it I will be the first to line up and shake his hand.
First off, he does preach the word. I guess you aren't listening that good when he does. He is not another Joel Osteen. Dr. Stanley preaches from the Bible how God can change a sinners life. I believe you are the only one who has ever seen him and thought he preaches just to "how to". He is one of the most regarded expository preachers in the Southern Baptist Convention. He does explain why you should be saved and why God changes the life of a believer. By the way, how many times have you heard Dr. Stanley preach? I have had the blessed opportunity to watch him on TV for over 5 years and I have seen him in person close to a dozen times. Each time I hear him preach, I can feel the Spirit of God moving through his words. Just because he doesn't preach the way you want him to preach, doesn't mean he preaches about Jesus every Sunday. You have to remember, Jesus is symbolized throughout the Bible even in the Old Testament.

[catch21wide]

Which is exactly my point. He teaches " how to" but very little of why. His message is focused on man not on Christ. He is the message of the Scriptures not "how to". Christ didn't say come and learn "how to" but come and learn of Me. When I hear of Christ in all His glorious person and work I am moved to live in a manner honoring to Him. I don't need to be told how to act and live I have Christ. His credentials mean nothing to me if he isn't preaching the Word. I think the key is your use of "on the Word" not the Word. He preaches on his ideas gained from the Word but not the Word. He focuses on what you ought to do rather than on what Christ has done. And if he ever starts actually preaching it I will be the first to line up and shake his hand.
Also, one last thing. How can one be saved if it isn't with Christ? So how can you preach about How to be saved without preaching about Jesus? Answer that.

[catlover]

I also like Charles Stanley... and have attended his church a few times, but I agree with a above post, his preaching style isnt my favorite...

I also hate that he is on TBN... .wish he would get off that ungodly network..

What's the controversey with TBN?

[HappyChicken]

What's the controversey with TBN?


I have no clue...I'm new to watching that channel. I notice that there are all kinds of things on there. Makes me leary of what to watch and what not to watch....especially since I'm so new to the Christian life. That's why I was asking about Dr. Stanley.

[catlover]

I have no clue...I'm new to watching that channel. I notice that there are all kinds of things on there. Makes me leary of what to watch and what not to watch....especially since I'm so new to the Christian life. That's why I was asking about Dr. Stanley.

In my opinion Dr. Stanley is pretty good. He's pretty conservative from where I stand--but he's a good egg.

IF Benny Hinn or any of his cronies appear on TBN be weary of them....

[mlqurgw]

First off, he does preach the word. I guess you aren't listening that good when he does. He is not another Joel Osteen. I didn't equate him with Olsteen. Though it is interesting that you would see enough similarities that you think I may have been. Dr. Stanley preaches from the Bible how God can change a sinners life. I believe you are the only one who has ever seen him and thought he preaches just to "how to". He is one of the most regarded expository preachers in the Southern Baptist Convention. After hearing hundreds of messages by him I wouldn't call any of them expository. Apparently you aren't familiar with what expository preaching is. He does explain why you should be saved and why God changes the life of a believer. In a man centered manner he does sometimes. Nor am I saying he is never right. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I didn't say he never preaches evangelistic messages but that he doesn't preach the Word. By the way, how many times have you heard Dr. Stanley preach? Over the last twenty years or so, hundreds of times. I actually used to like him better than many others I disagreed with theologically until I realized what he was doing. I have had the blessed opportunity to watch him on TV for over 5 years and I have seen him in person close to a dozen times. I am sorry. Each time I hear him preach, I can feel the Spirit of God moving through his words. Truth has nothing to do with feelngs. Feelings will fool you and usually do. Just because he doesn't preach the way you want him to preach, doesn't mean he preaches about Jesus every Sunday. You have to remember, Jesus is symbolized throughout the Bible even in the Old Testament.I really don't care about how he preaches. I care about what he preaches. Being a good speaker doesn't make you a good preacher. If Jesus is the message of the Book, and He is, then He ought to be and is the message of all God called preachers. Nearly every time my pastor preaches He is the subject. Nearly every time I preach I make Him the subject. The Gospel of Christ relates to every situation and circumstance. The Gospel isn't just about how to "get saved". It is about Christ who saves. Religion is about things, how to be a good christian, how to get what you want from God, how to live a holy life, how to do this and that. It is focused on the outward act of religion while giving lip service to the inward meaningful reasons. I am convinced that Charles Stanley would be satisfied with a church full of folks who act right and make a profession of faith than folks who know Christ in all His glory and person. I realize that you are unfamiliar with what I am talking about because those who preach Christ as I am advocating are few and far between.
BTW, just to help you know that there is a difference; Christ is revealed in the entire Old Testament in types and pictures. He isn't symbolized in them.

[HappyChicken]

I didn't equate him with Olsteen. Though it is interesting that you would see enough similarities that you think I may have been. After hearing hundreds of messages by him I wouldn't call any of them expository. Apparently you aren't familiar with what expository preaching is. In a man centered manner he does sometimes. Nor am I saying he is never right. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I didn't say he never preaches evangelistic messages but that he doesn't preach the Word. Over the last twenty years or so, hundreds of times. I actually used to like him better than many others I disagreed with theologically until I realized what he was doing. I am sorry. Truth has nothing to do with feelngs. Feelings will fool you and usually do. I really don't care about how he preaches. I care about what he preaches. Being a good speaker doesn't make you a good preacher. If Jesus is the message of the Book, and He is, then He ought to be and is the message of all God called preachers. Nearly every time my pastor preaches He is the subject. Nearly every time I preach I make Him the subject. The Gospel of Christ relates to every situation and circumstance. The Gospel isn't just about how to "get saved". It is about Christ who saves. Religion is about things, how to be a good christian, how to get what you want from God, how to live a holy life, how to do this and that. It is focused on the outward act of religion while giving lip service to the inward meaningful reasons. I am convinced that Charles Stanley would be satisfied with a church full of folks who act right and make a profession of faith than folks who know Christ in all His glory and person. I realize that you are unfamiliar with what I am talking about because those who preach Christ as I am advocating are few and far between.
BTW, just to help you know that there is a difference; Christ is revealed in the entire Old Testament in types and pictures. He isn't symbolized in them.

Can you back up your claims against Stanley? He seems pretty Bible based to me (not that I'm all that educated in the Bible). I can see what he is speaking of right in the Bible. I might not be extremely familiar, but I'm not blind or illiterate. Also, can you list some preachers you are advocating (the few and far between ones)?

[mlqurgw]

Can you back up your claims against Stanley? He seems pretty Bible based to me (not that I'm all that educated in the Bible). I can see what he is speaking of right in the Bible. I might not be extremely familiar, but I'm not blind or illiterate. Also, can you list some preachers you are advocating (the few and far between ones)?
Which ones and what would you accept? I know some and can give you a link if you wish. I certainly don't know all of them as I am sure there are many I have never heard of. I do know what it is to preach the Gospel and the Word of God and I also know that all God called preachers do it. The subtlety of men like Stanley is that they sound good and even use the Scriptures. Let me leave you with one passage that I believe speaks to what I am saying:
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Joh 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

[HappyChicken]

Which ones and what would you accept? I know some and can give you a link if you wish. I certainly don't know all of them as I am sure there are many I have never heard of. I do know what it is to preach the Gospel and the Word of God and I also know that all God called preachers do it. The subtlety of men like Stanley is that they sound good and even use the Scriptures. Let me leave you with one passage that I believe speaks to what I am saying:
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Joh 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.



I'm not sure I would accept whoever it is you suggest...I was just asking out of curiosity...for comparison. I'm happy watching Dr. Stanley.

[mlqurgw]

I'm not sure I would accept whoever it is you suggest...I was just asking out of curiosity...for comparison. I'm happy watching Dr. Stanley.Well you did ask what we thought of him and I answered. You seemed to be getting all favorable answers and I thought I would give you a little balance. I understand his appeal but warn you to be very cautious. Just because it sounds good or can be shown by verses of Scripture doesn't make it true. I believe the more you listen to him the more you will see what I have said concerning him. I am not telling you to close the book on him but be dicerning.

[HappyChicken]

Well you did ask what we thought of him and I answered. You seemed to be getting all favorable answers and I thought I would give you a little balance. I understand his appeal but warn you to be very cautious. Just because it sounds good or can be shown by verses of Scripture doesn't make it true. I believe the more you listen to him the more you will see what I have said concerning him. I am not telling you to close the book on him but be dicerning.

I really appreciate your responses...I asked for peoples opinions. I'm really curious to see a link of someone you recommend. I'll check it out. I'm all about learning about Jesus. I'm sorry if I came across as "moody" in my last post.

[catch21wide]

I really appreciate your responses...I asked for peoples opinions. I'm really curious to see a link of someone you recommend. I'll check it out. I'm all about learning about Jesus. I'm sorry if I came across as "moody" in my last post.
Dr. Stanley is a wonderful Biblical preacher and is God's messenger. From him, you can learn the values of a christian life with Christ at the center. I also recommend Dr. Jerry Vines. His link is www.jerryvines.com (http://www.jerryvines.com). He is a highly regarded and highly sought after preacher. I also recommend Dr. Eric Thomas. He is the senior pastor at First Baptist Norfolk, VA. His website produces devotionals. His website is www.316networks.com (http://www.316networks.com). I hope these sites help you in the future. I hope and pray that God will continue to use Dr. Stanley to minister to your needs until you find the church that is right for you.

[catch21wide]

Sorry about the last post. I meant to say that I pray that God continues to use Dr. Stanley to minister to your needs until you are able to return to church.

[HappyChicken]

Dr. Stanley is a wonderful Biblical preacher and is God's messenger. From him, you can learn the values of a christian life with Christ at the center. I also recommend Dr. Jerry Vines. His link is www.jerryvines.com (http://www.jerryvines.com). He is a highly regarded and highly sought after preacher. I also recommend Dr. Eric Thomas. He is the senior pastor at First Baptist Norfolk, VA. His website produces devotionals. His website is www.316networks.com (http://www.316networks.com). I hope these sites help you in the future. I hope and pray that God will continue to use Dr. Stanley to minister to your needs until you find the church that is right for you.


Thanks!!!! I'm going to check out these other guys tomorrow. We have been going to a baptist church in town that we enjoy. I'm just new to the doctrine. Trying to learn it all. I watch alot of tv and that is how I found Dr. Stanley....turns out, my mom has a few of his books...she said I can have them. I have also been going to his website. I have printed off some Bible studies that he offers there. I have done a couple and I like them. They are about 2 pages long each...and cover a wide variaty of subjects. I wish they were a little more detailed but I think they are meant to accompany his books.

I started watching the preachers on tv a few months ago. My daughter had an infection (MRSA) and I had to keep her home and we had to miss church for a while. During that time I started watching tv alot....I'm very thirsty to learning about the Bible...I got into watching the Shepherd's Chapel...arnold murray...then learned about the WCG and its splinters...I really got sidetracked. Then I started watching Dr. Charles Stanley...It's hard to discern between preachers when you are so new to the Word.

[HappyChicken]

Sorry about the last post. I meant to say that I pray that God continues to use Dr. Stanley to minister to your needs until you are able to return to church.


I'm returning tomorrow!! My daughter has been well for a while now, but as I said, I started to get sucked in by false doctrine (wgc splinters)....the devil has really been working on me...I get so confused on doctrines. I use to be Mormon and I have attended all kinds of churches...so you can probably imagine my confusion. Anyways....I'm returning to church tomorrow, with my husband and daughter. We are all healthy again..physically and spiritually. :D I'll still watch Dr. Stanley.

[catch21wide]

Thanks!!!! I'm going to check out these other guys tomorrow. We have been going to a baptist church in town that we enjoy. I'm just new to the doctrine. Trying to learn it all. I watch alot of tv and that is how I found Dr. Stanley....turns out, my mom has a few of his books...she said I can have them. I have also been going to his website. I have printed off some Bible studies that he offers there. I have done a couple and I like them. They are about 2 pages long each...and cover a wide variaty of subjects. I wish they were a little more detailed but I think they are meant to accompany his books.

I started watching the preachers on tv a few months ago. My daughter had an infection (MRSA) and I had to keep her home and we had to miss church for a while. During that time I started watching tv alot....I'm very thirsty to learning about the Bible...I got into watching the Shepherd's Chapel...arnold murray...then learned about the WCG and its splinters...I really got sidetracked. Then I started watching Dr. Charles Stanley...It's hard to discern between preachers when you are so new to the Word.
I understand where you are coming from. If you need any help with understanding the Bible, I will be happy to try and break it down for you. A lot of people at my work comes to me and asks for an understanding of the scriptures because they know I believe in the inerrant Bible. There are 2 more Baptist preachers that I want to recommend to you. They are Dr. Ed Young and Dr. David Jeremiah. They both have time slots on TBN on Sunday. I can't remember the exact times, but I bet TBN's website will be able to shed some light on that. Both preach that the Bible is inerrant and both preach God inspired messages.

[Lisa0315]

Though I have some severe theological differences with Stanley my biggest problem with him is that he rarely, if ever, preaches the person and work of Christ. His messages are " how to" and come across as good advice. I have listened to him many times and have found this to always be the case. Using the Bible isn't preaching the Bible. While there is a practical aspect to doctrine it isn't the focus of the Scriptures nor should it be of the message. Obviously I am not a fan.

I have noticed exactly the same thing.

Lisa

[mlqurgw]

I really appreciate your responses...I asked for peoples opinions. I'm really curious to see a link of someone you recommend. I'll check it out. I'm all about learning about Jesus. I'm sorry if I came across as "moody" in my last post.
No need to ever aplogize to me. I am not offended easily. :)
I would reccommend any of these men, Don Fortner is my pastor:
http://freegraceradio.com/FreeGraceRadioSpeakers.html