rich people?

[MercuryAndy]

Is it impossible for rich people to go to heaven?

[HypnoToad]

For man, yes. For God, nothing is impossible. (The rich man/camel story says exactly that.)

[Cabal]

No.

Like anything else that is capable of becoming an idol (which is clearly more than just money, but usually is money for most), the idolatry can be (a) overcome if present and / or (b) avoided if not present. It requires the self-control and faithfulness of the Spirit to overcome and stand against, as does any other temptation.

[BustedFlat]

People rich in what?
The bible talks about wealth from a much different prospective than you and I. The riches in the bible are spiritual wealth, that may or may not include your material wealth.
God Himself tells us:
Mal 3:10 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mal/Mal003.html#10) Bring all the tithes into the storehouse,
That there may be food in My house,
And try Me now in this,"
Says the LORD of hosts,
"If I will not open for you the windows of heaven
And pour out for you such blessing
That there will not be room enough to receive it.

As with all the gifts we are given from God, it is what we do with them that matters to Hiim.

[Cabal]

Could also argue the parable of the talents indicate that wise investment with a view to profit (fairly, and with due amounts tithed and used for good causes) is regarded as a good thing?

[Svt4Him]

People can have money and not let money have them.

[Shiversblood]

If I was a billionaire I would instantly go to heaven cuz i would be so happy throwing money around everywhere helping everyone buying everything etc

[IamRedeemed]

No, it is just very difficult for a rich "man" to believe he has need
of God, therefore the chances of him repenting and turning to Christ
realizing how destitute he really is spiritually become slimmer, the
more he is dependent on his riches. But as another poster said,
nothing is impossible with God though. :wave:


Is it impossible for rich people to go to heaven?

[MercuryAndy]

So i can be rich if i share it?

[Cris413]

Could also argue the parable of the talents indicate that wise investment with a view to profit (fairly, and with due amounts tithed and used for good causes) is regarded as a good thing?
Right...we are to be good stewards of everything God gives us...the planet, our finances...and our faith.

[Cris413]

So i can be rich if i share it?
Sweetie...you can always share. Especially if you're rich. ;)


Mat 6:19 "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal;
Mat 6:20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal.
Mat 6:21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Money is simply money...and we know where the real treasure lies!

God Bless you! :hug:

[MercuryAndy]

Right...we are to be good stewards of everything God gives us...the planet, our finances...and our faith.

If i become rich I will buy a house with a gate that opens with a little button and one of these http://www.koenigsegg.com/graphics/ccx_black.jpg

and then probubly give the rest of my money away to people. At least I hope I would not being rich yet I don't realy know if it makes people mean.

[Cris413]

If i become rich I will buy a house with a gate that opens with a little button and one of these http://www.koenigsegg.com/graphics/ccx_black.jpg

and then probubly give the rest of my money away to people. At least I hope I would not being rich yet I don't realy know if it makes people mean.
LOL...would you take me for a ride?....LOL

[MercuryAndy]

LOL...would you take me for a ride?....LOL

of course.

[Cabal]

Might wanna save some money for gas, due to the terrible gas consumption of that thing...;)

[MercuryAndy]

Might wanna save some money for gas, due to the terrible gas consumption of that thing...;)

aa yes good point. but maby they will have crappy hydrogen cars and it will not be usefull anymore :cry:

[IisJustMe]

All of you, including the OP, I believe, miss the point.Is it impossible for rich people to go to heaven?For man, yes. For God, nothing is impossible. (The rich man/camel story says exactly that.)Could also argue the parable of the talents indicate that wise investment with a view to profit (fairly, and with due amounts tithed and used for good causes) is regarded as a good thing?People rich in what?
The bible talks about wealth from a much different prospective than you and I. The riches in the bible are spiritual wealth, that may or may not include your material wealth.
God Himself tells us:
Mal 3:10 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mal/Mal003.html#10) Bring all the tithes into the storehouse,
That there may be food in My house,
And try Me now in this,"
Says the LORD of hosts,
"If I will not open for you the windows of heaven
And pour out for you such blessing
That there will not be room enough to receive it.

As with all the gifts we are given from God, it is what we do with them that matters to Hiim.No. Like anything else that is capable of becoming an idol (which is clearly more than just money, but usually is money for most), the idolatry can be (a) overcome if present and / or (b) avoided if not present. It requires the self-control and faithfulness of the Spirit to overcome and stand against, as does any other temptation.The issue of salvation has nothing to do with wealth, how one manages it, how one acquires it, how one shares or tithes it. The issue of salvation (the original question being, "Is it impossible for rich people to go to heaven?") is nothing more than an issue of faith in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord, of acknowledging we are sinners in need of Him as Savior, and making a confession of that realization in a true and heartfelt way that is acceptable to God. There is no other issue.

No one who makes that confession comes to Christ "clean." We come as we are, with all our misconceptions, self-reliance, poor judgment, and sin. If wealth management was an issue, or for that matter, if any other foible we as human flesh continue to wallow in even after coming to Christ was an issue, there would be no salvation. A deathbed confession would be worthless, and I don't believe that it is.

IAR got it right when she said:No, it is just very difficult for a rich "man" to believe he has need of God, therefore the chances of him repenting and turning to Christ realizing how destitute he really is spiritually become slimmer, the more he is dependent on his riches. But as another poster said, nothing is impossible with God though. :wave:No one in the flesh feels a "need" for God until there is crisis in their life. The exception is the child, exposed to the gospel at an early age when (I am convinced) the innocence of heart has not been corrupted by a cynical, selfish, and cruel world. There is a reason Jesus said, "Truly I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will not enter it at all." (Mark 10:15) As adults, we become jaded, lacking trust in things unseen, able only to focus on those things that we know "work," such as wealth, power, and postion. Children don't know those things and are far more able to be accepting of the gospel message. As I said, for an adult, it takes a crisis.

Wealth is not an obstacle. Power is not an obstacle. Position is not an obstacle. The only obstacle is the human heart. If it not attuned to God, if it does not heed the draw of the Holy Spirit, nothing can save it -- or the soul to whom it belongs.

[IamRedeemed]

Amen. I figured the question probably stemmed from what Jesus
said in Matthew 19:24, or what someone 'may have heard' that
Jesus said which came from Matthew 19:24.

"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through
the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

So my answer was pretty much a simple explanation of that verse.

God bless!:wave:






All of you, including the OP, I believe, miss the point.The issue of salvation has nothing to do with wealth, how one manages it, how one acquires it, how one shares or tithes it. The issue of salvation (the original question being, "Is it impossible for rich people to go to heaven?") is nothing more than an issue of faith in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord, of acknowledging we are sinners in need of Him as Savior, and making a confession of that realization in a true and heartfelt way that is acceptable to God. There is no other issue.

No one who makes that confession comes to Christ "clean." We come as we are, with all our misconceptions, self-reliance, poor judgment, and sin. If wealth management was an issue, or for that matter, if any other foible we as human flesh continue to wallow in even after coming to Christ was an issue, there would be no salvation. A deathbed confession would be worthless, and I don't believe that it is.

IAR got it right when she said:No one in the flesh feels a "need" for God until there is crisis in their life. The exception is the child, exposed to the gospel at an early age when (I am convinced) the innocence of heart has not been corrupted by a cynical, selfish, and cruel world. There is a reason Jesus said, "Truly I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will not enter it at all." (Mark 10:15) As adults, we become jaded, lacking trust in things unseen, able only to focus on those things that we know "work," such as wealth, power, and postion. Children don't know those things and are far more able to be accepting of the gospel message. As I said, for an adult, it takes a crisis.

Wealth is not an obstacle. Power is not an obstacle. Position is not an obstacle. The only obstacle is the human heart. If it not attuned to God, if it does not heed the draw of the Holy Spirit, nothing can save it -- or the soul to whom it belongs.

[MercuryAndy]

what if it was a realy big needle?

[IamRedeemed]

I think you might be better off focusing on
scales and fallow ground rather than needles at this point.

[IisJustMe]

what if it was a realy big needle?Actually, it was. The "needle" Jesus referred to was a gate in a gate, an opening cut big enough in the large gated entrance to a walled city so that only one man at a time to enter through it. A camel, forced down on his knees and emptied of his burdens, could actually enter through such an opening, but only with great difficulty, kind of like the difficulty a rich man has in coming to terms with his spiritual bankruptcy.

[MercuryAndy]

Actually, it was. The "needle" Jesus referred to was a gate in a gate, an opening cut big enough in the large gated entrance to a walled city so that only one man at a time to enter through it. A camel, forced down on his knees and emptied of his burdens, could actually enter through such an opening, but only with great difficulty, kind of like the difficulty a rich man has in coming to terms with his spiritual bankruptcy.

so its not a sewing needle then?

[IisJustMe]

so its not a sewing needle then?Nope.

[HypnoToad]

Actually, it was. The "needle" Jesus referred to was a gate in a gate, an opening cut big enough in the large gated entrance to a walled city so that only one man at a time to enter through it. A camel, forced down on his knees and emptied of his burdens, could actually enter through such an opening, but only with great difficulty, kind of like the difficulty a rich man has in coming to terms with his spiritual bankruptcy.
That is not correct. That explanation is relatively new, and there is no evidence that the gate was called that in Biblical times.

Jesus was not saying it was "difficult" for man to get to heaven, He was saying (without God) it was impossible. Jesus wasn't making a contrast between rich and poor, he was talking about man's supposed righteousness. At that time, the Jews viewed being wealthy as a gift from God (which it was), but they also believed God gave them that gift because they were more righteous than other people. Jesus was saying even those who you think are righteous are hopelessly lost without God.

[Sleaker]

Jesus was not saying it was "difficult" for man to get to heaven, He was saying (without God) it was impossible. Jesus wasn't making a contrast between rich and poor, he was talking about man's supposed righteousness. At that time, the Jews viewed being wealthy as a gift from God (which it was), but they also believed God gave them that gift because they were more righteous than other people. Jesus was saying even those who you think are righteous are hopelessly lost without God.

Exactly!! The whole reason why the crowd said 'Who then can enter heaven?' Was because the jewish belief about wealth was it came from God, and as such anyone who had a large amount of wealth must be blessed by God or have his favor. And here we have Jesus a prophet stating that it is impossible for the 'favored' man of God, to enter eternal life! Jesus was attempting to break the Jews of their mindset about how entrance into the kingdom works. He shattered it completely by showing them that it was impossible for man to enter on his own

The story also shows us that it is not a matter of doing something such as in the rich man's case, giving up his wealth to gain entrance into eternal life. If that was so, then we too could buy our way into eternal lief by simply giving our riches. Instead, Jesus was showing us that entrance into enternal life happens with a change of heart. it happens when we give our hearts over to God, rather then seeking for the gain of earthly things. The rich man's vice was his immense wealth, it was where his heart was. That is why when Jesus told him to give up everything and why he went away sad.

Likewise it is just as hard for poor people or rich people to enter eternal life, if you harbor something in your heart then Jesus will ask you to give it up so that you may be filled.

[IamRedeemed]

No, it wasn't, but why anyone bothered to seriously answer that
question (what if it was a really big needle?),is a mystery to me,
since it is obvious it was meant as a mocking question. :doh:


so its not a sewing needle then?

[HypnoToad]

No, it wasn't [a sewing needle]

There is nothing indicating Jesus meant anything other than a literal needle. There's no reason to try and soften Jesus statement of impossibility into one of mere difficulty. Notice just a bit later Jesus says "for man it's impossible" - there's no reason Jesus would say "impossible", if He only meant "difficult". Jesus then adds, "for God nothing is impossible" - again, there's no reason to say it can only be done with God, if it were merely difficult for man, not impossible.

[MercuryAndy]

There is nothing indicating Jesus meant anything other than a literal needle. There's no reason to try and soften Jesus statement of impossibility into one of mere difficulty. Notice just a bit later Jesus says "for man it's impossible" - there's no reason Jesus would say "impossible", if He only meant "difficult". Jesus then adds, "for God nothing is impossible" - again, there's no reason to say it can only be done with God, if it were merely difficult for man, not impossible.

god could make a realy big needle.

[LJSGM]

1 Timothy 6
3If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, 4he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 5and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
6But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. 8But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. 9People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. 10For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

Hebrews 13

5Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said,
"Never will I leave you;
never will I forsake you."

Luke 16


13"No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money."

If you have excess, do not spend it on your flesh and the pleasures thereof, give it to the poor, which is the gospel, to give charity to those who are in need.

[IamRedeemed]

No one was trying to "soften" anything. Not sure where you got that idea. Jesus DIDN'T say it was "impossible" though. He said it would be EASIER for a CAMEL to get through and EYE OF A NEEDLE than it would be for a RICH MAN to ENTER the KINGDOM of GOD.

Matthew 19:24
"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

Which means extremely difficult, and for the reasons I explained in my first post to the OP in this thread.

God bless




There is nothing indicating Jesus meant anything other than a literal needle. There's no reason to try and soften Jesus statement of impossibility into one of mere difficulty. Notice just a bit later Jesus says "for man it's impossible" - there's no reason Jesus would say "impossible", if He only meant "difficult". Jesus then adds, "for God nothing is impossible" - again, there's no reason to say it can only be done with God, if it were merely difficult for man, not impossible.

[HypnoToad]

No one was trying to "soften" anything. Not sure where you got that idea. Jesus DIDN'T say it was "impossible" though.
Uh, yeah, He certainly did.

The synoptic Gospels all say:
Mt.19:26 - "With men this is impossible ..."
Mk.10:27 - "With men it is impossible ..."
Lk.18:27 - "The things which are impossible with men ... "

[IamRedeemed]

I did think you were referring to me actually,
sorry for the misunderstanding, however.....

"......but with God ALL things are possible", is the other part that Jesus said though. :thumbsup:

You left that part out.

In context with the verse I had quoted which was Matthew 19:24
and the partial verse you quoted from Matthew 19:26, it reads:

"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.



God bless.



Uh, yeah, He certainly did.

The synoptic Gospels all say:
Mt.19:26 - "With men this is impossible ..."
Mk.10:27 - "With men it is impossible ..."
Lk.18:27 - "The things which are impossible with men ... "

[HypnoToad]

I did think you were referring to me actually,
sorry for the misunderstanding, however.....

"......but with God ALL things are possible", is the other part that Jesus said though. :thumbsup:

You left that part out.
:scratch:

I didn't leave that out, I addressed that earlier.

[IamRedeemed]

Okey doke. :thumbsup:

Goodnight and God bless.

http://bestsmileys.com/sleeping/1.gif



:scratch:

I didn't leave that out, I addressed that earlier.

[IisJustMe]

That is not correct. That explanation is relatively new, and there is no evidence that the gate was called that in Biblical times.Actually it is correct and it wasn't the name of a gate. It was a fact that such a gate within a gate existed in nearly every walled city. These entrances were called "needles" because they were shaped in an exaggerated fashion like a needle, narrow to the height of a man's waist and then widening out in a circular form at the top, so that a man in armor could not enter, it being too bulky, but being wider at the top gave room for a man's shoulders and saddle bags.

[Shiversblood]

I wish I was a rich person. Or a really rich.

[IisJustMe]

I wish I was a rich person. Or a really rich.You are. In Christ.

[MercuryAndy]

You are. In Christ.

are there cars in heaven?

[IisJustMe]

are there cars in heaven?http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_33_7.gif

That has what to do with anything?

[IamRedeemed]

Amen brother!


You are. In Christ.

[HypnoToad]

Actually it is correct and it wasn't the name of a gate. It was a fact that such a gate within a gate existed in nearly every walled city.
I don't deny the gates existed. But there's no evidence they were ever called "the eye of the needle" in Biblical times.

[MercuryAndy]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_33_7.gif

That has what to do with anything?

I realy want to drive a car but I might not get a chance to do it much on earth.

[IamRedeemed]

Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and all its righteousness......

What good is it if a man gains the whole world, but loses his soul?



I realy want to drive a car but I might not get a chance to do it much on earth.

[IisJustMe]

I realy want to drive a car but I might not get a chance to do it much on earth.LOL! OK. Sorry, but I don't think cars have souls, so I doubt they have them in heaven -- unless they're like I've always said about pets: "If they're really necessary to your happiness, then yes, there will be pets (or cars?) in heaven"


I wouldn't worry about the Rapture happening tonight, anyway. Within 20-30 years I think, but not tonight.

[MercuryAndy]

Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and all its righteousness......

What good is it if a man gains the whole world, but loses his soul?


cant I do both? and not lose my soul?

[bluemarkus]

EAT THE RICH !!!

(steven tyler)

[IamRedeemed]

Keyword is FIRST.
Make sure your eternal destination is
your main focus. Don't lose sight of it
while chasing after things in this temporal life.
This life is but a vapor. Like the grass it withers and like the flower it fades away.
None of us is guaranteed tomorrow, no matter what our age, much less the
next five minutes.

Eternal treasures last forever, so keep your main focus on storing up treasures for yourself
in Heaven where thieves cannot steal nor rust, dust or moth destroy them. Matthew 6:20 (http://bible.cc/matthew/6-20.htm)
(http://bible.cc/matthew/6-20.htm)



cant I do both? and not lose my soul?

[MercuryAndy]

I see. How do you store up treasure?

[Shiversblood]

They say its hard for a rich man to get into heaven but isn't it also hard for extremly poor people to get into heaven as well, because sometimes they become homeless. And steal stuff. And end up in state prison for various things.

[Cris413]

I see. How do you store up treasure?
That's a pretty good question Andy...

One way is to give of yourself and be a blessing to others...

[IamRedeemed]

The first thing you do is submit yourself to the Lord ready for service
as His servant to mankind, a laborer for souls in the harvest.
Say, "Here I am Lord. Use me as you will" and then when He gives you tasks,
be faithful to carry them out.

Know His Word, (2 Timothy 2:15) that you may sow it. In other words,
fill your heart with the truths and the promises of God's Word,
then speak them (which are The Words of Life Proverbs 4:20-22)

Be faithful, keeping your hand to the plow pressing on toward the
mark of the prize of the high calling of God, in Christ Jesus. (Philippians 3:14)

God bless


I see. How do you store up treasure?

[IamRedeemed]

amen Sis. :thumbsup:


That's a pretty good question Andy...

One way is to give of yourself and be a blessing to others...

[Cris413]

The first thing you do is submit yourself to the Lord ready for service
as His servant to mankind, a laborer for souls in the harvest.
Say, "Here I am Lord. Use me as you will" and then when He gives you tasks,
be faithful to carry them out.

Know His Word, (2 Timothy 2:15) that you may sow it. In other words,
fill your heart with the truths and the promises of God's Word,
then speak them (which are The Words of Life Proverbs 4:20-22)

Be faithful, keeping your hand to the plow pressing on toward the
mark of the prize of the high calling of God, in Christ Jesus. (Philippians 3:14)

God bless
:amen: sister....

...there are many ways to store up treasure...and they ALL begin with being faithful to God...

:amen:

[Cris413]

<snip> like I've always said about pets: "If they're really necessary to your happiness, then yes, there will be pets (or cars?) in heaven"
this makes me smile...still not 100% sure about pets...but I am 100% sure it would mean much to my happiness to have my pets with me in Heaven...

Not that being in the glory of God wouldn't be enough...but my pets would certainly be a BIG BIG bonus!

[Shiversblood]

im gonna be racing fast cars everyday in heaven

[zeke37]

the lion laying with the lamb suggests to me that there are going to be animals in Paradise...which is cool, cause I have had a lot of pets that I would love to enjoy in heaven.

[IamRedeemed]

:amen: sister....

...there are many ways to store up treasure...and they ALL begin with being faithful to God...:amen:


:amen:

the lion laying with the lamb suggests to me that there are going to be animals in Paradise...which is cool, cause I have had a lot of pets that I would love to enjoy in heaven.


:amen: Not to mention the white horses mentioned in Rev.19:11-14!

[BustedFlat]

Is it impossible for rich people to go to heaven?
Do a study of the Book of Job.

Job was a man of great prosperity
:Job 1:3 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Job&chapter=1&version=NKJV#top) His substance also was seven thousand sheep, and three thousand camels, and five hundred yoke of oxen, and five hundred she asses, and a very great household; so that this man was the greatest of all the men of the east.
Although Job was very rich, he was grounded in his love of the Lord, no matter what the prince of this word took from him, he remained fast in that love.
After Satan put Job through all the Lord would allow him to face, taking away everything and every body, the Lord restored it twofold to Job down to the sons and daughters.
Job 42:12 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Job&chapter=42&version=NKJV#12) Now the LORD blessed the latter days of Job more than his beginning; for he had fourteen thousand sheep, six thousand camels, one thousand yoke of oxen, and one thousand female donkeys.
Job 42:13 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Job&chapter=42&version=NKJV#13) He also had seven sons and three daughters.
(the others are in heaven with him)

To quote James:
Jas 5:11 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Jam&chapter=5&version=NKJV#11) Indeed we count them blessed who endure. You have heard of the perseverance of Job and seen the end intended by the Lord--that the Lord is very compassionate and merciful.

[jive4005]

Two things...

-the "eye of the needle" in the camel story refers to an actual small, low gate within the city wall (where I camel must be forced to stoop (which they hate!) in order to get through. That tells me that while it's HARD for a rich man to get to heaven, it's far from impossible.

-it's not about the money... it's about the motive (it's always about the motive). God doesn't need the money. It's already His. He also doesn't need people who follow money before Him. God wants to bless us... but also wants us to do His work for the right and loving reasons. I think!

rev

[LJSGM]

The point that Jesus was trying to make was not that it is not impossible to be rich and still be righteous (still give up everything for the kingdom), that is just something that prosperty seekers use to justify giving to the desires of their flesh. They see Godliness or being good as a means to finanical gain. (see 1Tim 6:5)

The reason is it Hard or impossible for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of heaven is because the main definition of righteousness is being loving (charity), so therefore, one that is rich, will not be rich for long, if they truely are born again! For one that is righteous does not put the desires of his flesh above giving to charity. If one has excess, and does not give it to the poor, shows where their heart is.

[MercuryAndy]

The point that Jesus was trying to make was not that it is not impossible to be rich and still be righteous (still give up everything for the kingdom), that is just something that prosperty seekers use to justify giving to the desires of their flesh. They see Godliness or being good as a means to finanical gain. (see 1Tim 6:5)

The reason is it Hard or impossible for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of heaven is because the main definition of righteousness is being loving (charity), so therefore, one that is rich, will not be rich for long, if they truely are born again! For one that is righteous does not put the desires of his flesh above giving to charity. If one has excess, and does not give it to the poor, shows where their heart is.

but can't i save some and give the rest to charity?

[LJSGM]

but can't i save some and give the rest to charity?
One has to follow the guidence of the Holy Spirit when it comes to where to put one's money. I'd say that I'd be more worried about one that is buying things with their excess to gratify fleshly desires then I am about one who saves? Although, there are parables of those that store up, and yet their life will be demanded of them that very night, ect, and they've very foolishly not investing their time in more charitible acts of righteousness. The motive of storing up in order to have more is not good I guess. But it's not my judgment to make in the end.

[MercuryAndy]

but if i get rich quickly then i won't have to work and will have more time to be good :)

[LJSGM]

but if i get rich quickly then i won't have to work and will have more time to be good :)
Yeah, if you're going to spend your money on basic nessessities, not excessive living. Anyways, I don't really think that's the way one should go about it, since you are falling into the trap of worrying about money instead of going out and serving God :) The bible says that we should not be idle (in a state of no physical labor), ect. It's good to work for your food, instead of putting your hope in some sort of get rich quick method.

But, were you really wanting my opinion anyways?

[MercuryAndy]

Yeah, if you're going to spend your money on basic nessessities, not excessive living. Anyways, I don't really think that's the way one should go about it, since you are falling into the trap of worrying about money instead of going out and serving God :) The bible says that we should not be idle (in a state of no physical labor), ect. It's good to work for your food, instead of putting your hope in some sort of get rich quick method.

But, were you really wanting my opinion anyways?

Yes i did.

Maby If i become rich and work even though I am rich and then do something or other.

[Waddell]

I am rich. I'm confused about your problem with that. :)

[MercuryAndy]

I am rich. I'm confused about your problem with that. :)

if i become rich i might be mean. and i don't want to be mean. or maby it will make me a good person. :scratch:

[Elife3]

God never siad it was impossible but very difficult and rich people are less likely to take the gift of salvation.

[MercuryAndy]

can i take advantage of the gift before i become rich?

[IisJustMe]

can i take advantage of the gift before i become rich?Endless questions!! Sheez, some people!

:thumbsup:

[Waddell]

if i become rich i might be mean. and i don't want to be mean. or maby it will make me a good person. :scratch:

That truely confuses me even more. What in the world would make you think that being financially secure would make you mean?

I honestly do not understand the correlation.

[MercuryAndy]

That truely confuses me even more. What in the world would make you think that being financially secure would make you mean?

I honestly do not understand the correlation.

beacuse then i might use money to solve problems.