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7angel
1st December 2007, 02:41 PM
9 for, if you confess 5 (http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/romans/romans10.htm#foot5) with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

We must also believe in our resurrection, then our hopes will be life after death, and thus to overcome the death like Christ.

10 For one believes with the heart and so is justified, and one confesses with the mouth and so is saved. 11 For the scripture says, "No one who believes in him will be put to shame." 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all, enriching all who call upon him.

God does not differentiate between men - Why are we doing with the many Christian denominations? - That I am a Catholic, I am evangelical, I am orthodox. etc.



13 For "everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." 14 But how can they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how can they believe in him of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone to preach? 15 And how can people preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring (the) good news!"

How beautiful! The feet of those who announce the good! - Here are not talking about institutions, but people who announce the good and who are sent by the Lord. Two by two, the messenger and the Holy Spirit.


16 But not everyone has heeded the good news; for Isaiah says, "Lord, who has believed what was heard from us?" 17 Thus faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes through the word of Christ.

It was clear then that is by preaching the word of Jesus Christ and not dogma or precepts laid down by men, or seductive speeches and rituals or celebrations. But word revealed by the Holy Spirit.


18 But I ask, did they not hear? Certainly they did; for "Their voice has gone forth to all the earth, and their words to the ends of the world."

there are no worse deaf the one who does not want to hear, or worse blind, the one who does not want to see




These were the first sent or messengers of beautiful feet

MATTHEW 4

18 As he was walking by the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers, Simon who is called Peter, and his brother Andrew, casting a net into the sea; they were fishermen. 19 He said to them, "Come after me, and I will make you fishers of men." 20 At once they left their nets and followed him. 21 He walked along from there and saw two other brothers, James, the son of Zebedee, and his brother John. They were in a boat, with their father Zebedee, mending their nets. He called them, 22 and immediately they left their boat and their father and followed him.

Nadiine
2nd December 2007, 10:13 AM
9 for, if you confess 5 (http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/romans/romans10.htm#foot5) with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

We must also believe in our resurrection, then our hopes will be life after death, and thus to overcome the death like Christ.
K, but the passage you used doesn't SAY that we have to believe in our own resurrection, it simply says we must believe Christ was raised.


10 For one believes with the heart and so is justified, and one confesses with the mouth and so is saved. 11 For the scripture says, "No one who believes in him will be put to shame." 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all, enriching all who call upon him.

God does not differentiate between men - Why are we doing with the many Christian denominations? - That I am a Catholic, I am evangelical, I am orthodox. etc.

Denominations aren't "differentiating" (giving one person partiality over another) between PEOPLE, they're about doctrines & how they are perceived/interpreted by different believers.
Your passage is inaccurate for the assertion you're making.

Denoms are not necessarily "dividing" AGAINST any others; as if to say "we are this, and all who aren't of our denom. are not of God". THAT is a wrongful faction & it's divisive against the brethren.

A denom. such as Baptists, aren't out claiming all other denoms are false and evil. They gather together so they can worship God in their preferred form in their personal agreement to doctrine as they understand it.

Nothing wrong w/ that. We all do that to some extent too. We go where we are in most agreement with what is taught and how they worship God.

7angel
2nd December 2007, 04:31 PM
By Nadine
A denom. such as Baptists, aren't out claiming all other denoms are false and evil. They gather together so they can worship God in their preferred form in their personal agreement to doctrine as they understand it.



This is bad, worship God in his preferred form according to its doctrine, because in this way overlooked the Gospel and what is not law make it into law. The Gospel is not law,
Because the Faith, is obtained only by the preaching of the Gospel.

Jesus said: God is Spirit, and wants us to worship in spirit and in truth.

Nadiine
2nd December 2007, 05:24 PM
By Nadine
A denom. such as Baptists, aren't out claiming all other denoms are false and evil. They gather together so they can worship God in their preferred form in their personal agreement to doctrine as they understand it.



This is bad, worship God in his preferred form according to its doctrine, because in this way overlooked the Gospel and what is not law make it into law. The Gospel is not law,
Because the Faith, is obtained only by the preaching of the Gospel.

Jesus said: God is Spirit, and wants us to worship in spirit and in truth.
:confused: Are you saying that Baptists don't worship God in spirit and in truth?
ANY genuine Christian worships God that way - they are just at a denominational church.

HypnoToad
2nd December 2007, 05:41 PM
:confused: Are you saying that Baptists don't worship God in spirit and in truth?
ANY genuine Christian worships God that way - they are just at a denominational church.
Looks like part of the confusion is you guys are using different definitions of "form" - language barrier thing again.

7angel
2nd December 2007, 06:16 PM
The Gospel are standards of conduct based on love, but religions put its own rules, relegating the Gospel, to a second place, this is what I am saying.

One Gospel, one Faith, one God.

Nadiine
3rd December 2007, 10:10 AM
Looks like part of the confusion is you guys are using different definitions of "form" - language barrier thing again.
I have no idea. I've had problems trying to understand 7's OP's & the subsequent posts don't get any more clearer for me unfortunately.
:sigh:

Maranatha27
5th December 2007, 05:15 AM
Your dealing with some of the most hated chapters in the Bible. Romans 9- Israels past, Romans 10- Israels present, Romans 11- Israels future. Hope that helps with your understanding of these passages

radicalz
5th December 2007, 05:55 AM
For me, this passage tells us about FAITH.

1. We have to confess with our mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in our heart that God raised Him from the dead, in order to be saved.

2. Without faith, we cannot confess with our mouth. only by the Holy Spirit who dwells within, we can confess (Sorry, don't remember the verse)

3. This "Jew and Greek" thing (which is in debate right now :P ) means we should not differentiate Christians among nationalities and race and genders. Christians are Christians, we are brothers and sisters, as we are one in Jesus Christ.

4. Faith comes from hearing the Words of God. Unfortunately, most of us hardened our hearts and don't want to listen to the Truth.

Hope it helps :amen: