Fred Thompson Wins Endorsement of National Right to Life

[SpyridonOCA]

(http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071112/ap_on_el_pr/thompson_endorsement_7)http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071112/ap_on_el_pr/thompson_endorsement_7

While Ron Paul is my ideal candidate, Thompson is nonetheless preferable to Clinton and Giuliani. Hopefully this will come as a boost to his campaign.

[Orthosdoxa]

Good for him. Too bad he stands no chance.

In an ideal world, I'd be voting for Tancredo, but he doesn't stand a chance either.

It'll be Guiliani and Clinton, both of whom are pro-aborts, but I'm not going to conscience vote for a third party, because that will just mean more votes not given to Guiliani, and I think I'll croak if I have to listen to/hear about that woman for the next four years.

[SeraphimSarov]

I don't know who to vote for. I've lost all faith in our political system, honestly.

[SpyridonOCA]

It'll be Guiliani and Clinton, both of whom are pro-aborts, but I'm not going to conscience vote for a third party, because that will just mean more votes not given to Guiliani, and I think I'll croak if I have to listen to/hear about that woman for the next four years.

If Ron Paul were to run as a third party, I'd recommend voting for him.

[SpyridonOCA]

I've lost all faith in our political system, honestly.

I would have to agree with you.

Trust ye not in princes and sons of men, in whom there is no salvation.

[Orthosdoxa]

You should talk to my husband about Ron Paul.

We're not fans. :D

[SeraphimSarov]

I would have to agree with you.

Trust ye not in princes and sons of men, in whom there is no salvation.
It is better to hope in the Lord than to hope in princes...

Yeah, I was big into politics in high school, but now I'm so disgusted that I can barely bring myself to read the newspaper anymore.

[SpyridonOCA]

We're not fans. :D

Is there a particular reason?

[SpyridonOCA]

Yeah, I was big into politics in high school, but now I'm so disgusted that I can barely bring myself to read the newspaper anymore.

I know what you mean. I follow the news merely for its entertainment value, not becasue I hope for it to get any better.

[Dorothea]

I heard about that on Laura Ingraham's radio show this morning. It seems 4 of the republican candidates all have gotten endorsement from different conservative groups in the past week or so. Brownback endorsed McCain, I forget the name of the group that endorsed Huckabee (who's my fav right now), another group who endorsed Romney, and then, of course Robertson (he's a bit nutty to me) endorsed Guiliani, and this group you mentioned endorsed Thompson. Interesting indeed.

[ThePosterFormerlyKnownAs]

I'll probably vote against Hillary rather than really for anyone.

I'm seriously considering having some Nixon/Ford signs made up and putting them in my lawn just because I find all those campaign signs so unsightly when elections are going on.

[Orthosdoxa]

That would RULE!

[SpyridonOCA]

If Obama were on the ballot, he would definitely have my support. However, he hasn't done that great of a job in differentiating himself from Hillary Clinton.

[SeraphimSarov]

Fr. Vasiliy for president! Campaign slogan: "Hilary? IS OUTRAGE!"

[ThePosterFormerlyKnownAs]

Fr. Vasiliy for president! Campaign slogan: "Hilary? IS OUTRAGE!"

I'm there! I'm sure my boss would let us use some space to set up a campaign headquarters. He's Orthodox, after all. Oh, wait, it wouldn't work. :(

Was crooked American politics in 19th century Russia?

[SeraphimSarov]

Was crooked American politics in 19th century Russia?

Нет!!!

Anybody else want to campaign for our favorite priest of the Russian Orthodox Church Anywhere It Wants To Be?

[SaintPhotios]

It'll be Guiliani and Clinton, both of whom are pro-aborts, but I'm not going to conscience vote for a third party, because that will just mean more votes not given to Guiliani, and I think I'll croak if I have to listen to/hear about that woman for the next four years

Orthodoxa... I don't mean to criticize you, because I've been in your shoes as well. But we need to understand exactly what a vote means... we are essentially putting ourselves into the candidacy. Which means.... if there are more "Orthodoxas" out there than anyone else, then a candidate who will act vicariously on your behalf will be in office. So I would strongly recommend you to rethink your decision. Not to vote according to your conscience is to essentially renounce your own. You would be better off to not vote then to vote for someone you can't actually support by choosing the "lesser of two evils" .... If you vote for Giuliani, you're voting for abortion, against civil liberties, and everything else that no true conservative could ever support. I would encourage you to at least vote for Ron Paul in the primaries just with the hope that maybe Rudy won't get it.... But more importantly than Ron Paul, I would just like you to really think about the implications of voting for someone as bad as Rudy.

I'll be honest... I'm as conservative as they get... and I have to admit that I'm probably more terrified of a Giuliani in office than a Hillary. But at the end of the day, I can't tell a real difference.

I'll probably vote against Hillary rather than really for anyone.

I'm afraid you're mistaken about what a vote should mean.


Honestly, I think every guy in the GOP is taking us in the wrong direction except Ron Paul.

But the biggest outrage to me is the support some Christians are giving to Huckabee. I mean seriously, I thought after seeing what George W. pulled after dropping Christ's name a couple of times and quoting the Bible got him elected, they'd wise up. But seriously... some people can't see past Huckabee's Christian pandering facade. He's blatantly lied to the American people several time. Bush has been one of the worst Presidents that I can personally recall... and that comes from a staunch conservative. Does anyone think that any of the other GOP candidates will fix any mess that Bush has gotten us into or restore any of our civil liberties taken by the Patriot Act.

And just a little extra plug for Ron Paul.... lots of people in the GOP are saying our troops are proud to be over there, and they believe in their cause. But don't you find it interesting that Ron Paul has received more military contributions than any other candidate in EITHER party?? It sounds like even our troops want change.

[Orthosdoxa]

I don't have as much faith as you in what the vote means, SP. I think a Hillary presidency will be the final flush in sending what's left of our country down the toilet. I will do whatever I can to ensure that she is kept out of that office, even at the expense of putting IN someone who has a crappy perspective on abortion.

I think Rudy IS a true conservative... save for that one thing. BUT- and this is what's important - he has promised to elect true conservatives for judges, and at the end of the day, THEY, not the president will have the final say on the right to choose infanticide or not.

I think you're an idealist, which is not all bad. But I see this as the lesser of two evils - one of which is beyond evil.

[Thekla]

Fr. Vasiliy for president! Campaign slogan: "Hilary? IS OUTRAGE!"

^_^

[Thekla]

to be honest, I've been a 3rd party voter for ... decades.
Its the only way I can vote my conscience; we need more true dialogue in our country, and I don't think that will happen with just 2 parties essentially shouting slogans at each other.

[Dorothea]

But the biggest outrage to me is the support some Christians are giving to Huckabee. I mean seriously, I thought after seeing what George W. pulled after dropping Christ's name a couple of times and quoting the Bible got him elected, they'd wise up. But seriously... some people can't see past Huckabee's Christian pandering facade. He's blatantly lied to the American people several time. Bush has been one of the worst Presidents that I can personally recall... and that comes from a staunch conservative. Does anyone think that any of the other GOP candidates will fix any mess that Bush has gotten us into or restore any of our civil liberties taken by the Patriot Act.

And just a little extra plug for Ron Paul.... lots of people in the GOP are saying our troops are proud to be over there, and they believe in their cause. But don't you find it interesting that Ron Paul has received more military contributions than any other candidate in EITHER party?? It sounds like even our troops want change.

We all have to vote for who we feel lines up best with our values and beliefs and stands on issues, Photios. And I support Huckabee. I like him, and I will vote for him in the primary, even if he's not likely to win the nomination. I vote for whom I think best lines up with my values, not who I think can beat the Democratic opponent. And whether he quotes Bible verses or not is not the reason I like Mr. Huckabee. If I just went by "oh, he's a Baptist Minister," that probably would've had me turning my attention to someone else. He comes off as sincere, unscripted, compassionate, well-spoken, and an overall decent human being. Maybe being a woman has something to do with it. Demeanor appeals to me. As for Mr. Paul, I don't really care for his stance on foreign policy issues. Every debate I've watched, he's one of the least that I like.

[Mary of Bethany]

I'm like you, Thekla. I've pretty much lost all interest in voting. And I've never been very political minded anway. Now I'm just apolitical. Our 2 party system doesn't offer much of a choice for Christians anymore.

:sigh:

Mary

[SaintPhotios]

yeah, well again... I didn't want that to come off as an attack, and I really have been in your shoes, so I understand where you're coming from.

The one thing I would have to disagree about is that Rudy is a true conservative... or even a fake conservative, not even a semi-conservative. The only thing he has in common with the mainstream GOP is that he's a warmonger. Pro-gun control, pro-abortion, anti-Fair Tax, anti-small government, pro-federal gay rights, every one of his economic policies hurts the middle and lower classes while it redistributes it to Wall Street via inflation and the devalued dollar, and most importantly he's anti-civil liberties.

[Theophorus]

If Obama were on the ballot, he would definitely have my support. However, he hasn't done that great of a job in differentiating himself from Hillary Clinton.

I would not vote for anyone from Illinois. Too much recent history there. They just sent a governor to prison, and evidently the new one is in a pickle.

[ThePosterFormerlyKnownAs]

I'm afraid you're mistaken about what a vote should mean.

Actually, I was shooting for tongue in cheek but I guess I missed. It happens quite often, my aim is terrible. ;)

[SeraphimSarov]

I would not vote for anyone from Illinois. Too much recent history there. They just sent a governor to prison, and evidently the new one is in a pickle.
Coming from an Illinoisan.... GOOD CALL. Don't get me started on our beloved governor (who's supposed to be Orthodox, unfortunately...).

[Protoevangel]

You should talk to my husband about Ron Paul.

We're not fans. :D

Is there a particular reason?
I would be interested in your reasoning as well.

Ron Paul has more integrity than all the other candidates together.

I would rather have a real democrat in office than a fake republican. I will never vote for Guiliani.

[SpyridonOCA]

I would not vote for anyone from Illinois.

Not even honest Abe? Whatever a governor (an Orthodox Christian governor) may have done, that doesn't automatically implicate Senator Obama.

[Xpycoctomos]

I heard about that on Laura Ingraham's radio show this morning. It seems 4 of the republican candidates all have gotten endorsement from different conservative groups in the past week or so. Brownback endorsed McCain, I forget the name of the group that endorsed Huckabee (who's my fav right now), another group who endorsed Romney, and then, of course Robertson (he's a bit nutty to me) endorsed Guiliani, and this group you mentioned endorsed Thompson. Interesting indeed.
Huckabee's my fav too :)

that is SOOOO wierd about Robertson supporting Giuliani. I think that says a lot about him and his priorities for the 700 cult- er Club.

[Xpycoctomos]

I don't have as much faith as you in what the vote means, SP. I think a Hillary presidency will be the final flush in sending what's left of our country down the toilet. I will do whatever I can to ensure that she is kept out of that office, even at the expense of putting IN someone who has a crappy perspective on abortion.

I think Rudy IS a true conservative... save for that one thing. BUT- and this is what's important - he has promised to elect true conservatives for judges, and at the end of the day, THEY, not the president will have the final say on the right to choose infanticide or not.

I think you're an idealist, which is not all bad. But I see this as the lesser of two evils - one of which is beyond evil.
Conservative nowdays does not automatically imply anything about pro-life. The republicans have managed to muddle that issue into obscurity by supporting people like Giuliani even you called him a true conservative. But if you look on his stance on almost social issues, he is anything but.

To have no real stance on abortion (which, i think he does...I think he is for it being maintained a "right" since he was before) is just as bad as being for legalized abortion becuase right now it will take a freight train to turn over Roe v Wade.. and in him we have nothing but a leaf blowing in the wind. If any of his judges are pro-life... it will be by accident or the pure grace of God and in SPITE of giuliani's weak moral stances on... anything.

Xpy

[Xpycoctomos]

I would rather have a real democrat in office than a fake republican. I will never vote for Guiliani.
I'm with you totally there.

The Republican party has shown itself to be nothing but a fake party that, if ever morally conservative, will in spite of itself. Honestly, at least the democrats take social issues seriously... even if some stances are demonic. Doesn't Christ say it is better to be hot or cold than luke-warm.

The Repubs should replace the Elephant with a room-temp glass of water. lol

[OnTheWay]

Voting for a third party is a waste of a vote, and in many cases boils down to voting for the canidate you'd least like to win. Take for example Flordia in 2000. It's more likely than not those individuals that voted for Ralph Nader would have found Al Gore more appealing than Bush. However, voting for Nader took enough votes away from Gore to allow Bush to win the state. The same thing happend for Clinton against Bush with Ross what's his face.

[SeraphimSarov]

Not even honest Abe? Whatever a governor (an Orthodox Christian governor) may have done, that doesn't automatically implicate Senator Obama.
Obama was too good to help his own state, and now he thinks he's going to help this country? The man is a fraud like the rest of them. Illinois is a mess, and he's done nothing for us over the years.

[SpyridonOCA]

Pat Buchanan, the conservative's conservative, has stated that, no matter who it is, the Republican candidate should lose the next election so that the party will have incentive to reform itself.

[Dorothea]

Huckabee's my fav too :)

that is SOOOO wierd about Robertson supporting Giuliani. I think that says a lot about him and his priorities for the 700 cult- er Club.
LOL Yes, Robertson has always come off as a bit nutty to me. :P

[Dorothea]

Conservative nowdays does not automatically imply anything about pro-life. The republicans have managed to muddle that issue into obscurity by supporting people like Giuliani even you called him a true conservative. But if you look on his stance on almost social issues, he is anything but.

To have no real stance on abortion (which, i think he does...I think he is for it being maintained a "right" since he was before) is just as bad as being for legalized abortion becuase right now it will take a freight train to turn over Roe v Wade.. and in him we have nothing but a leaf blowing in the wind. If any of his judges are pro-life... it will be by accident or the pure grace of God and in SPITE of giuliani's weak moral stances on... anything.

Xpy

You should've heard the sound bite of Guiliani that Laura played on her show several weeks ago. It was funny in a moronic way. :P It was when he became mayor of NYC. He'd said something like, "I'm a republican mayor, but not really." :doh: Well, he was certainly telling the truth then, wasn't he! :eek: :D

[Dorothea]

Pat Buchanan, the conservative's conservative, has stated that, no matter who it is, the Republican candidate should lose the next election so that the party will have incentive to reform itself.
I thought Buchanan went off the deep end years ago, didn't he? I didn't realize he still thought of himself as a republican or conservative. He seemed to have wanted to distance himself years ago. :confused:

[Bushmaster78FS]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071112/ap_on_el_pr/thompson_endorsement_7

While Ron Paul is my ideal candidate, Thompson is nonetheless preferable to Clinton and Giuliani. Hopefully this will come as a boost to his campaign.

Ron Paul, the candidate who thinks Iran doesn't have an army, navy, airforce and is not a threat... Yes good luck with that...

Make sure, before you vote for Thompson, to see what his policy about the evil war in Iraq, you won't see much difference.

[Bushmaster78FS]

I think a Hillary presidency will be the final flush in sending what's left of our country down the toilet.

Maybe that is what is needed for some morons to wake up.

[SpyridonOCA]

I thought Buchanan went off the deep end years ago, didn't he? I didn't realize he still thought of himself as a republican or conservative. He seemed to have wanted to distance himself years ago. :confused:

Buchanan has distanced himself from the neoconservatives who have taken over the Republican Party. He's one of the few Reagan-Goldwater voices left today.

[SaintPhotios]

Voting for a third party is a waste of a vote, and in many cases boils down to voting for the canidate you'd least like to win. Take for example Flordia in 2000. It's more likely than not those individuals that voted for Ralph Nader would have found Al Gore more appealing than Bush. However, voting for Nader took enough votes away from Gore to allow Bush to win the state. The same thing happend for Clinton against Bush with Ross what's his face.

That's like having Hitler and Stalin as the two frontrunners..... and Ralph Nader running as a third party. Would you vote for one of the front-runners that you thought would be less likely to kill you? I don't even like Nader, and that'd still be a no-brainer.


Buchanan has distanced himself from the neoconservatives who have taken over the Republican Party. He's one of the few Reagan-Goldwater voices left today.
Troof!

Ron Paul, the candidate who thinks Iran doesn't have an army, navy, airforce and is not a threat...
First of all, you're exaggerating... he doesn't think they're a threat though, and if you'd turn off Fox News and do some critical thinking, you'd probably agree with him. I know you might come back with an O'Reilly sound byte about "Islamo-Fascit extremists" or something. But the reality is U.N. inspectors went in, they said Iran has nothing. Secondly.... Pakistan, Israel, and India have nukes.... so why do we care? If we'd stop bombing everything that moves in the Middle East then we wouldn't have to worry about these kinds of threats.

[OnTheWay]

That's like having Hitler and Stalin as the two frontrunners..... and Ralph Nader running as a third party. Would you vote for one of the front-runners that you thought would be less likely to kill you? I don't even like Nader, and that'd still be a no-brainer.


I don't think I've ever seen a better example of a strawman. At any rate, yes I would chose the one I thought was least likely to have me killed. Voting for Nader in that case may simply cause the worst of the two to be elected. There is simply no point in voting for a man that probably couldn't even beat David Duke in an election.

[repentant]

Fear tactics work I guess...we need to fear a third world country who might have one nuke, in ten years, if this or that...we have to defend (the nation of) Israel, when they have undoubtebly one of the best militarys in the world, and have a few thousand nukes themselves..

So let's bomb Iran..Pre-emptive war, that's the Christian way!!! :thumbsup:

Meanwhile the same people who say we need to "protect our country" from terrorists in Iraq, want to leave our front door wide open, and let them come and go from here as they please. I heard someone on the radio the other day debating a caller about the war. They said that there are terrorists in Iraq, therefore we should have "taken over the country" his words, and fight them, because they are in Iraq...well there were 19 terrorists in the US on 9/10/01...and who knows how many more...so because "there are terrorists" in another country, that is no reason to "take over" and police them. How about we find the ones that are here, and can actually hurt us? But wait, that makes sense. It is blatantly obvious that neither Bush nor the Republican war machine care anything about protecting us, but are in it for money and oil. And thats it..

[Orthosdoxa]

if you'd turn off Fox News and do some critical thinking, you'd probably agree with him.

This statement is an example of why I chose not to engage you in your question about my dislike of Ron Paul. Anyone who disagrees must simply not be doing any "critical thinking".

Your statement, though directed at Bushmaster and not me, is condescending and insulting. Please hold to a higher standard.

[repentant]

Most people that don't like Ron Paul are either a) pro war no matter what, or at least have the wrong info about the war. or b) have fallen for the, for (lack of better term), lies about him..

http://www.ronpaulintro.com/thespins.phtml

Good site if you actually want to know what he stands for. Honestly I think it does a better job than his own site..

[SaintPhotios]

This statement is an example of why I chose not to engage you in your question about my dislike of Ron Paul. Anyone who disagrees must simply not be doing any "critical thinking".

Your statement, though directed at Bushmaster and not me, is condescending and insulting. Please hold to a higher standard.

I apologize if that came across as insulting... but the truth is that he totally misrepresented Dr. Paul's views, and the sentence in which he did so was stated in a almost exactly the same way several times on Fox News. That and the facts we have from actual credible sources, again aside from the pundits primarily on Fox News, suggest that Iran isn't actually a real threat, and that our foreign policy towards them is the real danger.To me.... it showed a lack of critical thought. That wasn't meant to be insult, so again I'm sorry if you took it that way, but it just sounded like propoganda to me with little regard for fact.

(and Spyridon was the one that asked why you disliked Ron Paul... I really haven't been too active in this thread up to this point.)


btw... anyone that supports our blood drunk administration should seriously watch these videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-3UPv_Lo0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIbUL7sAF-Q

[Xpycoctomos]

This statement is an example of why I chose not to engage you in your question about my dislike of Ron Paul. Anyone who disagrees must simply not be doing any "critical thinking".

Your statement, though directed at Bushmaster and not me, is condescending and insulting. Please hold to a higher standard.
That may be.. but I love it anytime someone slams Fox "News"!

lol

[Protoevangel]

This statement is an example of why I chose not to engage you in your question about my dislike of Ron Paul. Anyone who disagrees must simply not be doing any "critical thinking".
I also asked you about your reasoning. I won't insult you, although I may ask for further clarification or disagree about individual points, if you don't mind. I'm actually trying to stay away from here for the Nativity Fast (we can all see how well that's working out so far, can't we ;) ), so if you would like to PM or email me about it, that'd be fine.

[Bushmaster78FS]

Fox "News" ain't news eh? Ok, I am sure some of you people out there have "better" "more accurate" sources without a twist which holds to a political side and/or agenda... At least I can get a good comparison of news about Iraq when I compare all the news channels and facts on ground.

[Dorothea]

How about all those that enjoy the left-slanting news shows such as CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, PBS, etc., watch them and not criticize one news outlet for the people that are more on the right? Why not be happy we have different news outlets to watch? Grateful for the choices? I sure am.

[Thekla]

No, TV, so my news sources are limited.
However, I think its important to "read out the bias" in any source.
Bias is also present in what is not covered in the media.

[Xpycoctomos]

How about all those that enjoy the left-slanting news shows such as CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, PBS, etc., watch them and not criticize one news outlet for the people that are more on the right? Why not be happy we have different news outlets to watch? Grateful for the choices? I sure am.
I love NPR and it is definitely left-leaning at times but what I like is that they treat me like an intelligent individual and don't hype up the news and use editorial style language (or not as often as) as the other News stations do on TV, especially FOX, but I wouldn't hold CNN on a very high pedestal either. For this reason I also appreciate PBS.

But you are right, it is important to be aware that there is no such thing as unbiased news. Such is impossible becuase there are always many many sides to a news story and human beings create these news stories. Journalists have to do their best sometimes to share impressions (like in battle zones) in order to allow the people to have a better sense of what is going on.

The media controls to a large extent what we as a nation consider news and what we are aware of. NPR is no exception to this. I remember one time when that Florida Congressman was found to have had made sexual advances toward a young page they gave "news" on that constantly as much as any other news organization. I was one thing to give the news, but they offered commentaries from listeners, editorials (at least they called them editorials), poll-interviews on street reaction, and regular news stories. Sure, it deserved a 3 min news spot, but recieved SO much more attention than it deserved and it went on for days. And I can't help but think taht if it weren't a republican, they wouldn't have followed it as much. So, I am well aware that NPR is left-slanting, but generally speaking they are much more professional about how they go about delivering news than CNN and all that (and yes.. more than FOX).

Anyway, that's where I stand on it. If I can't go there, I just turn on the 700 Club news spot to get my fair and balanced news lol

Xpy

[Xpycoctomos]

No, TV, so my news sources are limited.
However, I think its important to "read out the bias" in any source.
Bias is also present in what is not covered in the media.
so true. Darfour was an issue long before america realized it. I wonder how many more Darfours there are in the World?

[Dorothea]

I love NPR and it is definitely left-leaning at times but what I like is that they treat me like an intelligent individual and don't hype up the news and use editorial style language (or not as often as) as the other News stations do on TV, especially FOX, but I wouldn't hold CNN on a very high pedestal either. For this reason I also appreciate PBS.

But you are right, it is important to be aware that there is no such thing as unbiased news. Such is impossible becuase there are always many many sides to a news story and human beings create these news stories. Journalists have to do their best sometimes to share impressions (like in battle zones) in order to allow the people to have a better sense of what is going on.

The media controls to a large extent what we as a nation consider news and what we are aware of. NPR is no exception to this. I remember one time when that Florida Congressman was found to have had made sexual advances toward a young page they gave "news" on that constantly as much as any other news organization. I was one thing to give the news, but they offered commentaries from listeners, editorials (at least they called them editorials), poll-interviews on street reaction, and regular news stories. Sure, it deserved a 3 min news spot, but recieved SO much more attention than it deserved and it went on for days. And I can't help but think taht if it weren't a republican, they wouldn't have followed it as much. So, I am well aware that NPR is left-slanting, but generally speaking they are much more professional about how they go about delivering news than CNN and all that (and yes.. more than FOX).

Anyway, that's where I stand on it. If I can't go there, I just turn on the 700 Club news spot to get my fair and balanced news lol

Xpy
That's great, Xpy. See, isn't it great there are so many news choices? :D I personally like Fox News the best. I've tried watching the other news networks like MSNBC and CNN, and well, sometimes I can't stomach their obvious left-leaning stances. And I don't bother with the top 3 primetime: ABC, CBS, NBC. It's funny. Once you've gone through Fox News and were watching other networks before that and go back to it, you can see the obvious left or right leaning slants!! Big time. ;) Anyway, if and when I do catch the news, I get my news from Fox and the Drudge Report. I also watch Beck sometimes on CNN Headline News. C-SPAN sometimes has good stuff too. That's about it. Yep, I'm pretty much a right-winger. ^_^

[Xpycoctomos]

That's great, Xpy. See, isn't it great there are so many news choices? :D I personally like Fox News the best. I've tried watching the other news networks like MSNBC and CNN, and well, sometimes I can't stomach their obvious left-leaning stances. And I don't bother with the top 3 primetime: ABC, CBS, NBC. It's funny. Once you've gone through Fox News and were watching other networks before that and go back to it, you can see the obvious left or right leaning slants!! Big time. ;) Anyway, if and when I do catch the news, I get my news from Fox and the Drudge Report. I also watch Beck sometimes on CNN Headline News. C-SPAN sometimes has good stuff too. That's about it. Yep, I'm pretty much a right-winger. ^_^
I'm a right-winger too. I just don't think FOX has good journalism ethics. But, they do know how to make good entertainment... which is why I am quite familiar with them. I honestly watch it to be entertained, but not to inform myself. Although, yesterday they did do an important half-hour of reporting on Kaitie Couric's latest comments on Dan Rather.

I guess for me, I already know what I believe (as I am sure you do to) so I don't look to the news to support or deny what I believe. I just look to it to get information. I just see Fox news as a Right-wing cheerleader and honestly, I don't need that kind of patronization.

When I listen to NPR there are times I am yelling at the radio becuase their left-wing bias sticks out so much (especially when they do reports on abortion) just in the simple words they choose. And Science Friday (Which I do enjoy) is often such a podium for atheists (Ira Phlato is such a jerk too) but in general I feel that they are much less condescending nad treat the listener as if they have a brain of their own. In 80% of it, it is obvious they are working hard to be as unbiased as possible (not that it is ever possible to be completely unbiased). I just don't get that with FOX nor do I with CNN and so on. I think FOX does a dis-service for the Right-wingers because it perpetuates the image we already have of sticking heads in the sand. Even their token "lefty" (Colmes) is a light-weight. Not that that is meant to be news, but it says something about the general agenda of the network.

I think I would be cooler with FOX if they would at least just come out and say "We are a right-wing network with an agenda, because we believe in it."

But, to each his own. In the end, the most important thing we can do is pray for the world, our civil authorities and the suffering. The monks on Mt Athos who don't even have any clue what's going on in Darfour are doing a heck of a lot more for them than I am listeing to my NPR and informing myself about it on my way to my cushy job. It's interesting how in the end, all of the injustices int he world boil down to that.

Xpy

[Dorothea]

That's neat, Xpy. I don't watch most news shows because it just makes my blood pressure go up, and most of the time it is depressing. lol The only shows I catch on Fox is sometimes (rarely) Neil Cavuto's show. I like him. Sometimes (about 5 or so times a month maybe) O'Reilly (when his head isn't too big lol), and even less often H&C because I don't care for the arguing back and forth. I catch Beck on CNN Headline News. Regular news, I sometimes catch Shep's Fox Report.

[Xpycoctomos]

I do like Niel too.. I must admmit.