Dog the Bounty Hunter - yikeees

[Nadiine]

All over the news today is Dog Chapman's phone tape using nasty expletives and the N word to his son who's dating a black woman.

I don't understand how as a Christian he's even talking like that using such vulgarities --- but do you think this will end his show & reputation?

In a way with all the good he does, I feel bad for him, but that phone message was way bad too.
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[Time2BCounted]

All over the news today is Dog Chapman's phone tape using nasty expletives and the N word to his son who's dating a black woman.

I don't understand how as a Christian he's even talking like that using such vulgarities --- but do you think this will end his show & reputation?

In a way with all the good he does, I feel bad for him, but that phone message was way bad too.
:help: :help: :help:
wow i never heard about that... id say itll prolly knock him out of where he is, though he'll always be a celebrity

[NewGuy101]

I don't know the guy. But remember as Christians we all have our sinful nature we still have to deal with. (yes that doesn't excuse his behavior) But we should focus on getting him help. We also have take into considering that a couple years a go many conservative christians were racist, it takes time for some to deal with the reality of christ and love for all of his childrent besides racial boundries.

[Nadiine]

wow i never heard about that... id say itll prolly knock him out of where he is, though he'll always be a celebrity
ya, it's all over the news today. He wanted his son to stop dating her becuz they use the N word & he didn't want her spilling all that to the media & losing his career...

little did he know he was being taped & it got to the media. Sounds like his son taped it, I guess the Enquirer released it?
OUCH.

[Time2BCounted]

ya, it's all over the news today. He wanted his son to stop dating her becuz they use the N word & he didn't want her spilling all that to the media & losing his career...

little did he know he was being taped & it got to the media. Sounds like his son taped it, I guess the Enquirer released it?
OUCH.


Ouch is right, he's lucky it didnt happen here though, he's prolly playing with lightweights lol So whats he saying? Has he made a statement yet?

[ContentInHim]

They had his pastor on - a neat black guy - and he said Dog was crushed. But I'd say he was embarrassed that he was caught out.

It's so sad because while I don't watch his show I was aware that he prayed on it and claimed to be a born-again Christian. But the mouth should have been tamed and it obviously wasn't. Hopefully some counselling and discipling will help, but A&E has cancelled all scheduled filming. Don't know what they will do about his show. :cry:

[BAFRIEND]

There will be ramifications. Look what happened to Kramer from Seinfeld.

he can forget his show and he can also forget about doing anything commercial, cameos, or anything having to do with charity or hosting awards.

As for his business as a bounty hunter- he has weakened himself in lawsuit empathy and the folks he captures may be a bit more violent and demeaning towards him.

he also hurt his wife and family and employees.

[Nadiine]

Good insights you guys -- I feel so bad for him, but my gawsh, that tape sounded NASTY. I didn't even talk like that back in my potty mouth days. lol (well I did, I just wasn't racist) :blush: :sorry:

I agree, he's probly just embarrassed - and I agree that he probly hurt his bounty hunting... they'll probly be more hostile or resent him having authority?
No more shows...
I still want to know who taped the fone call - or who turned it in to the media. his son?
OUCH that would be a stab in the back.
:cry: :cry: :sigh:

[HisKid1973]

So that guy is a christian. Never knew that. I just saw the show a few minutes and that was enough for me..We'll if he truly knows Christ, His Daddy will work out the kinks in him as He did and is doing in us......shalom..kim

[IamRedeemed]

Amen, brother. It's my understanding he is a pretty "new" convert.
He may have had a "church" background growing up, but I believe he recently (past couple of years) actually turned his life over to the Lord. I know he and Beth have been trying to clean up their mouths. I think they have come a noticeable distance. Apparently though there is something deeply implanted in his heart regarding prejudice, (probably implanted as a child) but I am quite certain that the Lord will work that out of him. The fact that he has a black pastor to me, tells me that the Lord is already dealing with him on the issue and that he is cooperating. :hug::hug::hug: to Dog.

So that guy is a christian. Never knew that. I just saw the show a few minutes and that was enough for me..We'll if he truly knows Christ, His Daddy will work out the kinks in him as He did and is doing in us......shalom..kim

[Nadiine]

So that guy is a christian. Never knew that. I just saw the show a few minutes and that was enough for me..We'll if he truly knows Christ, His Daddy will work out the kinks in him as He did and is doing in us......shalom..kim
This actually might be the vehicle God is able to use to get that work done in him too.
Sometimes we have to be taken down a few notches to see where we are and have to deal with it when it hits us.
(how do I know that one?!!!) :swoon: :help: :doh:

[Nadiine]

I just know he's so sensitive, this is probly just killing him inside.
I will pray for them tonight. I feel awful for him.

I should try to find an address to Email my support to them. :scratch:

[Time2BCounted]

I just know he's so sensitive, this is probly just killing him inside.
I will pray for them tonight. I feel awful for him.

I should try to find an address to Email my support to them. :scratch:


Im really sorry to hear this, i know its gotta have him feeling like crawling under a table. Will be keeping him in my prayers, maybe we could email him a CC card of encouragement or someting if you find his email addy

[GraceLikeRainFallsDown]

Hi all! :wave:

(I am not sure under the new rules if I have to sign in before posting. If so, let me know.)

I live in Hawaii and know that many local people do not like Dog to begin with. (many do like him also) My daughters DARE officer at school went on a 15 minute rant about him in the classroom last year. I was shocked. How could they not like someone who takes the "bad guys" off the streeets?

It seems that many feel that his show portrays our little corner of paradise in a bad light. They do not like that the A&E shows the drug problems of Hawaii.

Personally, I pray that the Father will work on his heart and allow him to continue to get the "bad guys" off our streets.

We all sin. Luckily most of our sins are not recorded and played continually in the media. In the end, it may be a good thing. He will have to face his sin and hopefully repent.

I am routing for him and his family. I pray the he will seek the Lord's help, repent and grow closer to God through this trial.

[Nadiine]

Hi all! :wave:

(I am not sure under the new rules if I have to sign in before posting. If so, let me know.)

I live in Hawaii and know that many local people do not like Dog to begin with. (many do like him also) My daughters DARE officer at school went on a 15 minute rant about him in the classroom last year. I was shocked. How could they not like someone who takes the "bad guys" off the streeets?

It seems that many feel that his show portrays our little corner of paradise in a bad light. They do not like that the A&E shows the drug problems of Hawaii.

Personally, I pray that the Father will work on his heart and allow him to continue to get the "bad guys" off our streets.

We all sin. Luckily most of our sins are not recorded and played continually in the media. In the end, it may be a good thing. He will have to face his sin and hopefully repent.

I am routing for him and his family. I pray the he will seek the Lord's help, repent and grow closer to God through this trial.
Wow, thank you for this insightful information.
You don't have to be a member here to just post general posts of fellowship & talking - it's just debating on issues that only members can do.
So don't worry about that.

It makes sense why they might dislike those parts of Hawaii being shown - but we all know that EVERY state & city has it's drug problems & homeless folks.

I really do feel bad for him, he's doing alot of good, it's too bad people get like that even tho I can sort of understand it.

I have to sign off, I hope to write more tomorrow. Thank you for sharing this, I learned something new today.

God bless you!

[IamRedeemed]

Amen, that's what I was going to say.
The problems are nation/worldwide. :-)

Welcome Gracelikerain:wave:

I really love that song btw!
Is that what you named your sn after?


Wow, thank you for this insightful information.
You don't have to be a member here to just post general posts of fellowship & talking - it's just debating on issues that only members can do.
So don't worry about that.

It makes sense why they might dislike those parts of Hawaii being shown - but we all know that EVERY state & city has it's drug problems & homeless folks.

I really do feel bad for him, he's doing alot of good, it's too bad people get like that even tho I can sort of understand it.

I have to sign off, I hope to write more tomorrow. Thank you for sharing this, I learned something new today.

God bless you!

[nyj]

...- but do you think this will end his show & reputation?
Yes and yes.

[IamRedeemed]

I have this email for them. Because we were supporting them through that big ordeal with Mexico and the rapist that Dog and his team busted there, so we are on their mailing list. Hope this helps. :thumbsup:
update@dogthebountyhunter.com


I just know he's so sensitive, this is probly just killing him inside.
I will pray for them tonight. I feel awful for him.

I should try to find an address to Email my support to them. :scratch:

Im really sorry to hear this, i know its gotta have him feeling like crawling under a table. Will be keeping him in my prayers, maybe we could email him a CC card of encouragement or someting if you find his email addy

[IamRedeemed]

It is hard to say. If he doesn't address the public, it could. But he does touch a lot of hearts and he sows mercy and genuine heartfelt concern to the people he arrests and the world witnesses it. I think if he were to make a sincere show of repentance that the world and especially the population of black people he offended and their friends, neighbors, coworkers etc., all of us who were indirectly affected and/or offended just might find it in their hearts to sow some mercy back to him in his time of need. I do believe that this may very well be a turning point in his life, hopefully for the better.


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...- but do you think this will end his show & reputation?

[GraceLikeRainFallsDown]

Amen, that's what I was going to say.

Welcome Gracelikerain:wave:

I really love that song btw!
Is that what you named your sn after?

Yes, I love the song too. :)

[Nadiine]

I have this email for them. Because we were supporting them through that big ordeal with Mexico and the rapist that Dog and his team busted there, so we are on their mailing list. Hope this helps. :thumbsup:
update@dogthebountyhunter.com
Oooh, hey thanks sister!!!
I remember that whole thing in Mexico w/ the fugitive rapist. (he got a bad rap on that one)....
how sad, catch a sick rapist and get thrown in jail for it.

I cannot wait till God reigns when what is righteous and upright will be the rule.

I do want to send him some moral support becuz I know how sensitive he is and I believe his motive is good in what he believes.
He screwed up, but I won't be the one to cast my stones when he's already hurting & repentant.

:groupray:

[stone]

All over the news today is Dog Chapman's phone tape using nasty expletives and the N word to his son who's dating a black woman.

I don't understand how as a Christian he's even talking like that using such vulgarities --- but do you think this will end his show & reputation?

In a way with all the good he does, I feel bad for him, but that phone message was way bad too.
:help: :help: :help:


Yea, i saw that on tmz, i think it was? Not good, definately not good. I had no idea.

but, how in the world do you have a private phone conversation recorded? Was it his son that set him up?

[Nadiine]

Yea, i saw that on tmz, i think it was? Not good, definately not good. I had no idea.

but, how in the world do you have a private phone conversation recorded? Was it his son that set him up?
heya stone!
Ya, huh.. that's the million dollar question that I'm dying to know. His son loves him tho... I can't fathom him doing that. :eek:
Talk about feeling betrayed PLUS busted... 2 major nitemares for him.
I believe he has a good heart - sincere. I feel so bad for him right now.

[IamRedeemed]

Exactly. He is not trying to justify his actions, and continue practicing his sin.
or bashing people calling them haters because they are saying what he did is wrong and is sin
Being repentant turning toward His brethren, and to those he wronged means he is a brother WON,
not a brother LOST. :groupray:

Oooh, hey thanks sister!!!
I remember that whole thing in Mexico w/ the fugitive rapist. (he got a bad rap on that one)....
how sad, catch a sick rapist and get thrown in jail for it.

I cannot wait till God reigns when what is righteous and upright will be the rule.

I do want to send him some moral support becuz I know how sensitive he is and I believe his motive is good in what he believes.
He screwed up, but I won't be the one to cast my stones when he's already hurting & repentant.

:groupray:

[Avatar]

In a way with all the good he does, I feel bad for him, but that phone message was way bad too.
:help: :help: :help:


I don't understand this sentiment. People believe he does good... why? Do you know why he does what he does? He's a bail bondsman, he put up the money to release these criminals from jail. He goes to get them when they fail to appear for court so he can get his bail money back. Its a business. And if it wasn't for him these criminals wouldn't be out in the first place. What's noble or honorable about anything he does? :scratch:

[stone]

I don't understand this sentiment. People believe he does good... why? Do you know why he does what he does? He's a bail bondsman, he put up the money to release these criminals from jail. He goes to get them when they fail to appear for court so he can get his bail money back. Its a business. And if it wasn't for him these criminals wouldn't be out in the first place. What's noble or honorable about anything he does? :scratch:

Lot's of good people go to jail. What he does is kind of a community service as well. Most folks will learn from their mistakes and make corections and without folks like bondsman they wouldn't be able to get out of jail and go to work to support their families and such.

As far as his comment, i won't judge him for that. He may have been brought up as a child with those words used. It happens on both sides of the tracks.

[ContentInHim]

I don't understand this sentiment. People believe he does good... why? Do you know why he does what he does? He's a bail bondsman, he put up the money to release these criminals from jail. He goes to get them when they fail to appear for court so he can get his bail money back. Its a business. And if it wasn't for him these criminals wouldn't be out in the first place. What's noble or honorable about anything he does? :scratch:
Messy business for sure, but I don't believe he's a bail bondsman - I think he gets hired by bail bondsmen to find those who've flown the coop. Very fine line difference. :help:

[Avatar]

Messy business for sure, but I don't believe he's a bail bondsman - I think he gets hired by bail bondsmen to find those who've flown the coop. Very fine line difference. :help:
Maybe he does that too, but I've seen him on the phone with folks he let out - 'hey I trusted you, yada, yada'. So he definitely posts bail.

[ContentInHim]

Yuck, Avatar. Well, he needs our prayers for sure. Sometimes it takes something humiliating and crushing to complete the surrender. Let's pray that he fully surrender to the Father now. :)

[IamRedeemed]

Yes, their business is Bailbonds. They do work other bounties, but many of the bounties
they run are those that missed court on their own bonds and they have to get them into
custody or risk losing lots of money. :-)

[IamRedeemed]

People believe he does good, because they see him in action. He sows mercy and grace
to the people he has to arrest. He doesn't use excessive force. He isn't a brute.
He is very loving, and counsels them as well, like a brother on their way to jail.
He shows a valid interest in them as people, and he reaches out to them.
He proves that he is in it for more than money. He shows that he hasn't forgotten
the shoes he once walked in himself.


I don't understand this sentiment. People believe he does good... why? Do you know why he does what he does? He's a bail bondsman, he put up the money to release these criminals from jail. He goes to get them when they fail to appear for court so he can get his bail money back. Its a business. And if it wasn't for him these criminals wouldn't be out in the first place. What's noble or honorable about anything he does? :scratch:

[Avatar]

Yuck, Avatar. Well, he needs our prayers for sure. Sometimes it takes something humiliating and crushing to complete the surrender. Let's pray that he fully surrender to the Father now. :)
Amen.

[IamRedeemed]

Amen, sister.

:prayer: for the Dog.

Yuck, Avatar. Well, he needs our prayers for sure. Sometimes it takes something humiliating and crushing to complete the surrender. Let's pray that he fully surrender to the Father now. :)

[Nadiine]

I don't understand this sentiment. People believe he does good... why? Do you know why he does what he does? He's a bail bondsman, he put up the money to release these criminals from jail. He goes to get them when they fail to appear for court so he can get his bail money back. Its a business. And if it wasn't for him these criminals wouldn't be out in the first place. What's noble or honorable about anything he does? :scratch:
why do I think he does good? becuz he tries to get them help, he tries to lead them in another direction -- he tries to give them 2nd chances like he had when he was in prison.
Alot of INNOCENT people are arrested & need bail too, or first time offenders that dont' intend to keep on the same path. They have families etc.

He's given his background a few times. It's becuz one man gave him his 2nd chance to make something of himself that he does that for others.

I think that's noble. He got that escaped fugitive rapist in Mexico... he does anti drug stuff to get drugs out of the state,....

He does good - as for motive? He seems sincere, I can't judge that his motive is bad either, but I have seen his show & how many years he's dedicated his life to this and how he treats the people after they're caught.

I also don't attack people when they're down.

[Avatar]

why do I think he does good? becuz he tries to get them help, he tries to lead them in another direction -- he tries to give them 2nd chances like he had when he was in prison.
Alot of INNOCENT people are arrested & need bail too, or first time offenders that dont' intend to keep on the same path. They have families etc.

He's given his background a few times. It's becuz one man gave him his 2nd chance to make something of himself that he does that for others.

I think that's noble. He got that escaped fugitive rapist in Mexico... he does anti drug stuff to get drugs out of the state,....

He does good - as for motive? He seems sincere, I can't judge that his motive is bad either, but I have seen his show & how many years he's dedicated his life to this and how he treats the people after they're caught.

I also don't attack people when they're down.
Why does he only offer his counsel when he's caught them after jumping bail? I would think his counsel would be much more beneficial to the people he pays to release from prison when they are released.. But I guess the cameras aren't rolling then. His prayers, his advice are playing to the camera recording him for his TV show and the audience that watches. I don't believe any of it.

[IamRedeemed]

Well, I think we ought to be careful there as judging things based on
lack of information is dangerous territory to embark onto.

Be mindful of the measure you issue, as the same tool you use to measure
will be used to measure it back to you.

You cannot make a sound or reasonable judgment based on LACK of evidence
or knowledge regarding this.

I personally have no reason to believe that he does not offer this
counsel at every opportunity.

He doesn't pay to release people from PRISON either.

From JAIL you mean?


Why does he only offer his counsel when he's caught them after jumping bail? I would think his counsel would be much more beneficial to the people he pays to release from prison when they are released.. But I guess the cameras aren't rolling then. His prayers, his advice are playing to the camera recording him for his TV show and the audience that watches. I don't believe any of it.

[Avatar]

Well, I think we ought to be careful there as judging things based on
lack of information is dangerous territory to embark onto.

Be mindful of the measure you issue, as the same tool you use to measure
will be used to measure it back to you.

You cannot make a sound or reasonable judgment based on LACK of evidence
or knowledge regarding this.

I personally have no reason to believe that he does not offer this
counsel at every opportunity.

He doesn't pay to release people from PRISON either.

From JAIL you mean?

Yes, from jail. I misspoke.

[Benedicta00]

I always did like Dogg and for the most part I believe he is a serious enough Christian but IMO he never did display the fruits of the Spirit too well.

From a moral standpoint, in a lot of ways he kind of made up his own rues to live by and not all of them are consistent with Christianity.

Like him having umpteen kids with umpteen different women and him being common law "married" to Beth for 16 years, having more kids with her and only getting married recently.

But as far as him being done because of his language?? He always used language he had no business using and no one is outraged until now?? I don't get that.

This "word" isn't any better or worse than any of the other foul dehumanizing things he says to and about the ppl he arrests on TV.

He should have been called out on his dehumanizing name calling long ago and not just now because he used the "N" word. He calls ppl "MF" regularly, that is no 'worse' than the other name, IMO. Where was the outrage for them, for their dignity?

[GraceLikeRainFallsDown]

but, how in the world do you have a private phone conversation recorded? Was it his son that set him up?
It was his son. According to this article, Tucker was paid a lot of money for the taped conversation.

http://www.khnl.com/Global/story.asp?S=7300549

I cannot imagine a son doing this to his father. Even if the father was wrong to speak the way he did.

[Nadiine]

It was his son. According to this article, Tucker was paid a lot of money for the taped conversation.

http://www.khnl.com/Global/story.asp?S=7300549

I cannot imagine a son doing this to his father. Even if the father was wrong to speak the way he did.
OOohhhh it wasn't Leland!! ok. I thought this was Leland. I couldn't picture him doing that.

OH MY. Can you say, Judas?
:help: :swoon: That is so wrong. sell your own father out.

[BAFRIEND]

I still want to know who taped the fone call - or who turned it in to the media. his son?
OUCH that would be a stab in the back.

In some jurisdictions it is legal to tape someone so long as it is your conversation. I think that it is illegal to tape a phone conversation unless the person knows or agrees, like an answering machine. It is hard to say because I am no lawyer- but it is a safe bet that who ever he spoke to on the phone taped it.

[IamRedeemed]

I never appreciated some of the language that comes out of his and Beth's mouths, but I
also know that receiving Christ and walking out our salvation is an ongoing process
that we all endure. Not everyone has a Paul experience and gets to have an overnight
metamorphasis.
And as far as I know, He is pretty new in His walk with the Lord.

I think the thing here in this instance though was not his language, but rather his
prejudice which is a deeper heart issue as a Christian than the bad habit of a potty mouth.

I do agree though that he and Beth do use some pretty bad adjectives for some of the
people they arrest. But I also know that God isn't through with them yet.

The fact that Dog is repentant, says that he isn't reprobate. Brothers and sisters don't
need encouragement when they are up, they need it when they are down.

It is just like the Jim Bakkers and the Jimmy Swaggarts.
Everyone is always ready to crucify, (not you) but these men fell, they still love the Lord,
they fell into temptation, and it was then, that they needed their brothers and sisters.
They didn't turn their backs on God, they fell. What they needed and still need is a
hand up, as they are repentant and they are not reprobate. That is why the Word says to
be careful if we think we stand, lest we fall, as pride goes just before a fall.

God bless.


I always did like Dogg and for the most part I believe he is a serious enough Christian but IMO he never did display the fruits of the Spirit too well.

From a moral standpoint, in a lot of ways he kind of made up his own rues to live by and not all of them are consistent with Christianity.

Like him having umpteen kids with umpteen different women and him being common law "married" to Beth for 16 years, having more kids with her and only getting married recently.

But as far as him being done because of his language?? He always used language he had no business using and no one is outraged until now?? I don't get that.

This "word" isn't any better or worse than any of the other foul dehumanizing things he says to and about the ppl he arrests on TV.

He should have been called out on his dehumanizing name calling long ago and not just now because he used the "N" word. He calls ppl "MF" regularly, that is no 'worse' than the other name, IMO. Where was the outrage for them, for their dignity?

[IamRedeemed]

True, but as we know being legal and
being moral are not necessarily synonomous. amen?
:sorry:

In some jurisdictions it is legal to tape someone so long as it is your conversation. I think that it is illegal to tape a phone conversation unless the person knows or agrees, like an answering machine. It is hard to say because I am no lawyer- but it is a safe bet that who ever he spoke to on the phone taped it.

[GraceLikeRainFallsDown]

In some jurisdictions it is legal to tape someone so long as it is your conversation. I think that it is illegal to tape a phone conversation unless the person knows or agrees, like an answering machine. It is hard to say because I am no lawyer- but it is a safe bet that who ever he spoke to on the phone taped it.

Living in California most of my life, I thought that you needed to consent for a phone conversation to be recorded. It is true in California, but not in 38 states.

From the following, it looks like it is legal in Hawaii for a person to record a conversation they are a party of without consent of the other party:

http://expertpages.com/news/taping_conversations.htm

QUOTE:A majority of the states and territories have adopted wiretapping statutes based on the federal law. Thirty-eight states and the District of Columbia permit an individual to record a conversation to which they are a party without informing the other party that they are doing so. These laws are referred to as “one-party consent” statutes, and as long as you are a party to the conversation, it is legal for you to record it.

Twelve states require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation. Those jurisdictions are California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Washington. Be aware that you will sometimes hear these referred to inaccurately as “two-party consent” laws. If there are more than two people involved in the conversation, all must consent to the taping.


As already stated in the thread . . . legal does not always equal moral. Even though Tucker was in his legal right, it was wrong to do this to his father for money.

[Nadiine]

As already stated in the thread . . . legal does not always equal moral. Even though Tucker was in his legal right, it was wrong to do this to his father for money.
I'm sure there's more behind the scenes w/ them maybe not getting along?
I can promise that I would NEVER sell one of my parents out for cash -- not even in my nasty rebellious, snotty days. That ain't kool. And I'm actually hoping this backfires on how sick it was for him to do that to his own father.

LOW LOW LOW.

[Benedicta00]

I don't think he's that young in his walk. His mother was a Indian preacher of sorts, she preached to the Indians and he grew up actually a good boy but fell into trouble as a teen. He came to back to Christ when we was in prison some 20 years ago. I just think he has his *own* views biblically speaking when it comes to morality.

I do realize that chasing crack addicts around and that environment you have to be abrasive, so I don't really fault him there. I'm just sick of the PCness... using the "N" word to end ppl careers is going to far and getting out of control. IMO.

Mark Fuhrman used it once upon a time and OJ got away with murder. It's just has to stop. Yes racism is bad and it needs never to come back into our society but the use of the word does not mean ipso facto you are a racist in the sense you think blacks should all be hung or not have the same civil rights.



I never appreciated some of the language that comes out of his and Beth's mouths, but I
also know that receiving Christ and walking out our salvation is an ongoing process
that we all endure. Not everyone has a Paul experience and gets to have an overnight
metamorphasis.
And as far as I know, He is pretty new in His walk with the Lord.

I think the thing here in this instance though was not his language, but rather his
prejudice which is a deeper heart issue as a Christian than the bad habit of a potty mouth.

I do agree though that he and Beth do use some pretty bad adjectives for some of the
people they arrest. But I also know that God isn't through with them yet.

The fact that Dog is repentant, says that he isn't reprobate. Brothers and sisters don't
need encouragement when they are up, they need it when they are down.

It is just like the Jim Bakkers and the Jimmy Swaggarts.
Everyone is always ready to crucify, (not you) but these men fell, they still love the Lord,
they fell into temptation, and it was then, that they needed their brothers and sisters.
They didn't turn their backs on God, they fell. What they needed and still need is a
hand up, as they are repentant and they are not reprobate. That is why the Word says to
be careful if we think we stand, lest we fall, as pride goes just before a fall.

God bless.

[Benedicta00]

It was his son. According to this article, Tucker was paid a lot of money for the taped conversation.

http://www.khnl.com/Global/story.asp?S=7300549

I cannot imagine a son doing this to his father. Even if the father was wrong to speak the way he did.
Yea, I think there was more to it and I think his son was baiting him which is why this ending his career business is nonsense, IMO.

At what point does it just become an invasion of privacy and a violation of civil rights when you use a word, no racist acts have been committed against anyone, it is just name calling... at what point does this persecution cross the line? What ppl say in private is what ppl say in private, the bigger jerk is who would tape someone just to make a few bucks. The person who set him up is a bigger racist IMO because they would exploit a race to make money off of this. That is dehumanising, that is racism at it's worse IMO.

As far I know, Dogg has not broken the law. it's not against the law to use that word. PPl now days act as if it's against the law to call some a name. The PCness is just outrageously out of control. I'm not saying it's right but that it is out of control the extent ppl are being persecuted.

If they want to go after someone, go after the son who used his girlfriend's race to make a buck off if it.

[Nadiine]

i agree benedicta... use "N" or "gay" in any negative light and expect the lynch mobs to be out after you.

Use "Christians" and "Jews", and everybody's just fine.
Prejudism against Christians & Jews is welcome, no one else.
(& yes, I remember Mark Fuhrman very well - he literally had to move out of California). good grief.

Does anyone see a problem here?? :doh: :scratch:

[Benedicta00]

i agree benedicta... use "N" or "gay" in any negative light and expect the lynch mobs to be out after you.

Use "Christians" and "Jews", and everybody's just fine.
Prejudism against Christians & Jews is welcome, no one else.
(& yes, I remember Mark Fuhrman very well - he literally had to move out of California). good grief.

Does anyone see a problem here?? :doh: :scratch:
Yea, I do and i have had enough personally.

Try being a Catholic... look at what Robin Williams said on the Tonight show publically about the priesthood. What does Robin Williams do to make the world a btter place?

But Dogg gets his career ened becuase of a privte conversation?? It has just gone to darn far and you know why? because no other race or religion makes as much noise about it.

Yes, I understand that we can never allow our society to go back to the way it was but come on.. does anyone think it will if ppl say the "N" word in private??

[Nadiine]

Yea, I do and i have had enough personally.

Try being a Catholic... look at what Robin Williams said on the Tonight show publically about the priesthood. What does Robin Williams do to make the world a btter place?

But Dogg gets his career ened becuase of a privte conversation?? It has just gone to darn far and you know why? because no other race or religion makes as much noise about it.

Yes, I understand that we can never allow our society to go back to the way it was but come on.. does anyone think it will if ppl say the "N" word in private??
What confuses me is, they use the N word of themselves to each other! Obviously there's a contradiction going on - if they consider that the N word is so evil, then nobody should be allowed to use it based on what it represents.

[Benedicta00]

What confuses me is, they use the N word of themselves to each other! Obviously there's a contradiction going on - if they consider that the N word is so evil, then nobody should be allowed to use it based on what it represents.
that's a on going debate. Supposedly it is the context that makes you guilty of racism.

On Fox last night some civil rights peeps were saying that some ppl use it out of habit and ignorance and this person thought Dog used it out of ignorance. I just think it's habit for him, he said as much in the taped conversation. he uses that word and many others. I just think leaving him n air for the many others and kicking im off for the one is absurd.

[nyj]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21602240/

A&E pulled his show off the air indefinitely. Not surprising.

[Avatar]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21602240/

A&E pulled his show off the air indefinitely. Not surprising.
Well, that's going a bit far.

[nyj]

Well, that's going a bit far.Pulling his show?

[Followers4christ]

The media sells sex,drugs and violence everyday to young kids.But if someone says the "N" word its going too far regardless if rappers do it all the time? God Bless

[nyj]

The media is all about making money.

[BAFRIEND]

The latest on Dog is that a judge threw out an extradition attempt by Mexico to extradite him on kidknapping charges.

Dog became famous when he promised Walsh on AMW that he would bring the fugitive playboy serial rapist Luster to justice. Days later Dog captured Luster in Mexico and the media celebrated Dog and made him a celebrity.

Well, Mexico, in an obvious political ploy, filed charges against Dog for kidknapping the serial rapist.

A Federal judge threw out the charges stating that Mexico waited too long to begin the precedings.

[Cromwe11]

People are overly sensitive because of political correctness.

It would seem Dog probably has some anger issues, but having a bad vocabulary doesn't make someone evil. It means they have bad manners.

Also, I know alot of people who use racial slurs because they are politically incorrect and sometimes just because they find them funny, but they don't ultimately hate the different races.. they are just insensitive.

[BAFRIEND]

People are overly sensitive because of political correctness.

It would seem Dog probably has some anger issues, but having a bad vocabulary doesn't make someone evil. It means they have bad manners.

Also, I know alot of people who use racial slurs because they are politically incorrect and sometimes just because they find them funny, but they don't ultimately hate the different races.. they are just insensitive.
You should not use racial slurs.

I would not call it being overly sensitive.

I know it was not the point of your post, but I would like to point out that people should not use slurs because it is not PR, they should not use them because it is wrong.

I like Dog, but he is responsible for what came out of his mouth and it is not the response that created his fall, but his own actions.

[plmarquette]

All over the news today is Dog Chapman's phone tape using nasty expletives and the N word to his son who's dating a black woman.

I don't understand how as a Christian he's even talking like that using such vulgarities --- but do you think this will end his show & reputation?

In a way with all the good he does, I feel bad for him, but that phone message was way bad too.
:help: :help: :help:
Years ago I did a similar thing with my son... lost my temper...he was dating a girl 10 years older than him who had a child ...what's up with this ...

Dog lost his temper... evidently he thought the girl was a gold digger or a low life and was punctuating his contempt with the wrong adjectives...

The only reason it became world wide news was his Christian confession ....& the media jumped at it ...wow another one bites the dust ....

Where is the son of judas... the kid who sold his dad out for 30 pieces of silver? What is his story... where is his public apology ? What possessed him (oh guess what) to devastate, destroy, and demean his whole family for 17k .... must be some "Deliliah"...

[BAFRIEND]

What is his story... where is his public apology ? What possessed him (oh guess what) to devastate, destroy, and demean his whole family for 17k .... must be some "Deliliah"...


Family relations can be complicated. You know they say the nut does not fall far from the tree.

[SharonL]

I think dog is a decent guy - he has done a lot for people - he was raised on the street - beaten by his father until he could not even take gym classes with others because of all the bruises - went to jail - he is rough around the edges but I think he is truly sorry and the son is the one that has the problem here - to sell out his entire family for $15 thousand dollars. What an awful thing to do.

[Benedicta00]

I think dog is a decent guy - he has done a lot for people - he was raised on the street - beaten by his father until he could not even take gym classes with others because of all the bruises - went to jail - he is rough around the edges but I think he is truly sorry and the son is the one that has the problem here - to sell out his entire family for $15 thousand dollars. What an awful thing to do.
And the son is the racist and so is the girlfriend who would use race to make money.

[BAFRIEND]

Dr. Phil wants a piece of Dog now and is publically claiming Dog is avoiding an interview.

I think I would want to watch this one, folks.

[BAFRIEND]

Rosie O'Donnel has just attacked the Dog.

Called him trailer park trash with a mullet.

[Benedicta00]

and that's an okay politically correct thing to call someone I suppose.

[nyj]

Mullet ... like Rosie should talk.

[JPPT1974]

Well he is paying a very high price
As his show got cancelled and it
Will only go from bad to worse.

[Benedicta00]

but why is it acceptable in our society to use the term trailer trash which essentially means white trash?

It is a double standard.

[Cromwe11]

Rosie O'Donnel has just attacked the Dog.

Called him trailer park trash with a mullet.
she's just jealous of his mullet

[youthwalk]

My whole take on this is that yes, he was wrong to say that if his daughter was dating a n-word they'd flip out and yet still saying that it's not because the son's girlfriend is Black but because the family uses the n-word.

I'm confused. How many people use a well known, hurtful to some, hateful racist slur in their homes generally? How did this not come out before? They're good actors and the editors are great too it appears.

While it is clearly explained by Dog his reasons why he wants them to break up, it seems like they totally baited him. He said that someone (apparently the girlfriend) was trying to tape him. She obviously knew that they used the n-word often.

i'm sorry but I tend to think they were both motivated by selfishness. Firstly, the son and girlfriend were dead wrong and Dog, who is afraid of losing everything he owns because of "some [bleeping] n-word", was wrong to begin with by using the n-word to describe Blacks. hE wasn't talking about an attitude or a mindset, he's referring to Black people. And that is sad.

However, Black people (I am not American and here it's totally different) allow it. I can't stomach rap because of the "b---es and h--es" n-word this n-word that mentality. They say that they have taken back the word and made it suit themselves but all I see is it further pulling them down and opening themselves to attack by those who do see them (Blacks/Africans) as something negative or inferior. Why claim such a terrible word?!! I can't begin to understand it. Let it die along with the pains of slavery and prejudice; let it die and let it only emerge from the mouths who have hate in their hearts and not those who have been misguided into thinking that it is ok to say it. Let it be clear that it is not ok to say it. Don't tolerate it in your own communities and it'll not be tolerated elsewhere. I can't live in a glass house and throw stones. If I'm so sensitive about these things why am I calling Black women nasty things in songs, why do I call the people around me, those I like and those I don't by the same horrid n-word? It makes no sense.


Let this go people. I don't think he's racist but I do think that, like many, he does attach negative connotations to Blacks. We made that easy. :sigh:

I'm of mixed African, Scottish, Japenese and East Indian descent. Here the race war is between Africans and east Indians. It's bad because my dad is Indian and my my mother mixed African. I have cousins who look Japenese, Indian, White and African. But yet, even me, because of the dirty politics and racial innuendo of the predominantly East Indian party here, I too have attached stereotypes to East Indians outside of my family. We have to stop it ourselves; it begins in the group itself and until we stop it, it will continue.

[Benedicta00]

Last time I checked, the US still upholds freedom of speech. I think Dog's the one who's civil rights have been violated. He should look into suing.

What law did he break? None.

This has zero to do with race beyond a personally family matter.

What's wrong with the girl who would use her race to make 15,000 $?

This has zero to do with civil rights or racism. The kid wanted a piece of the dad's pie and the dad said no... It has everything to do with blackmail in a world that's gone mad with political correctness and double standards and it has to do with two ppl who would sell themselves and their race out as well as their family member to make a buck.