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Rochir
27th October 2007, 11:48 AM
(NOTICE: this thread is not meant to cause problems!)

I know a lot of your problems here stem from WWMC members having come here for fellowship or even for asking for membership, or CC members posting at WWMC. You saw/see this as an "invasion" of your forum.

At the same time, you express distress about WWMC members, or CC members posting at WWMC.

I would encourage you to not only voice your hurt here! Come over to WWMC and state what troubles you about us! Come over and state your "beef"!

I will start a thread in WWMC for you there!

http://foru.ms/t6332261-for-cc-and-others-how-can-we-solve-the-present-problems.html

Solving a problem that concerns two or more sides needs the input from ALL sides! Please, state what concerns you about WWMC members here, and together I hope we will find a solution!

:wave:

MrJim
27th October 2007, 12:06 PM
I'm concerned that I've not seen tulc around (i think he's a wwmc member?)

Rochir
27th October 2007, 12:14 PM
I'm concerned that I've not seen tulc around (i think he's a wwmc member?)

Yes, tulc is a WWMC member and yes, I too have not seen him in a while!:(

JimfromOhio
27th October 2007, 12:29 PM
I'm concerned that I've not seen tulc around (i think he's a wwmc member?)

Tulc is one poster I enjoy seeing posting. Hopefully he will be back.

Lisa0315
27th October 2007, 01:18 PM
Sorry, I have no interest in a conversation like that. I appreciate the sentiment though.

Lisa

D'Ann
27th October 2007, 02:30 PM
Sorry, but no thank you. We'll all meet some day in heaven hopefully and then whatever division we all have will not matter because they will be no more divisions in heaven. So no, I will not post in the WWMC. But thank you for the offer.

NewGuy101
27th October 2007, 02:31 PM
Sorry, I have no interest in a conversation like that. I appreciate the sentiment though.

Lisa
:amen:

Criada
27th October 2007, 03:53 PM
:sigh:

Rochir
27th October 2007, 04:18 PM
:sigh:

Yeah!

SolomonVII
28th October 2007, 12:54 AM
I did go to the liberal forum on occasion to discuss the liberal theology of Kung, and Crossan, and the Jesus Seminar, and Spong etal, but it seems that it was more about rainbows over there than anything to do with liberal theology.

Annabel Lee
28th October 2007, 01:27 AM
I'm concerned that I've not seen tulc around (i think he's a wwmc member?)

He stopped by on another website today.

Rochir
28th October 2007, 05:47 AM
I did go to the liberal forum on occasion to discuss the liberal theology of Kung, and Crossan, and the Jesus Seminar, and Spong etal, but it seems that it was more about rainbows over there than anything to do with liberal theology.

Well, we seem to have few liberal theology debaters/scholars in WWMC. Which is sad, because a healthy discussion of theological differences sure would be interesting and would help understand each other better!

Jim47
28th October 2007, 02:45 PM
Well, we seem to have few liberal theology debaters/scholars in WWMC. Which is sad, because a healthy discussion of theological differences sure would be interesting and would help understand each other better!




Is that an invite? ;)

If so do you have a link?

I'm sure I can stir things up a bit :D

IamRedeemed
28th October 2007, 03:06 PM
No, thank you. I have never gone over there to "invade" your forum,
nor do I intend to start now, even upon invitation.

I feel it is the one place at Foru.ms that you all can go to and not be subject to what as a conservative, I believe. Besides that I am quite certain due to the fact that many of us have crossed paths not only in other areas of Foru.ms, but in real life, in the midst of political debate and voting issues, that we all know what the beefs are, there is no sense in pretending that we don't.

We have the entire rest of Foru.ms to discuss those beefs and many of us have, and there has never been a solution nor could we ever think it could be possible. A heart can change though, by God's words, which is the reason we keep sharing what they are, as the lord has instructed every believer. Unity comes from united beliefs. If we disagree on the very foundations laid by the God we all say we serve, unity is undermined right from the beginning.

You can be charitable to someone who doesn't share your beliefs, without rolling out a red carpet for them to run over yours.

And I feel that some people (not you) equate the two, and it just isn't so.

Two cannot walk in agreement (other than agree to disagree) unless they be agreed. There is no "fellowship" outside of discussing favorite foods and butterflies, as some have said already.

So, with all of that being said.... again I thank you for the invitation, however I personally must decline your offer as I believe nothing fruitful can come from it as has been proven in the various boards of this web site.

Rochir
28th October 2007, 03:23 PM
Is that an invite? ;)

If so do you have a link?

I'm sure I can stir things up a bit :D

You know where we are! No link necessary!;)

All others who have declined - yur choice!:) I'm sad for it but it's your choice!:|

IamRedeemed
28th October 2007, 04:14 PM
Well, there's nothing in the declining of your invitation by our members
who have done so, to be "sad" about really. It is what it is, and there are
probably at least 500 other forum arenas on this site where the "beefs"
can be, have been and currently are being, discussed.

There is no valid purpose that I can think of to do it in the liberal forum as well.
That's all. No reason to be "sad" about it though.




All others who have declined - yur choice!:) I'm sad for it but it's your choice!:|

Miss Shelby
28th October 2007, 04:21 PM
There really aren't any differences between some of our liberal members and myself that not interacting with them at all won't solve.

Latreia
28th October 2007, 04:43 PM
There really aren't any differences between some of our liberal members and myself that not interacting with them at all won't solve.


:eek:

I just know I gotta get new glasses.....

;)

Izdaari
28th October 2007, 04:51 PM
I did go to the liberal forum on occasion to discuss the liberal theology of Kung, and Crossan, and the Jesus Seminar, and Spong etal, but it seems that it was more about rainbows over there than anything to do with liberal theology.
Well, sure! And that's why I often post there, though I'm a member here. I don't find liberal theology convincing, but I like rainbows! :D

Latreia
28th October 2007, 05:22 PM
:doh: :doh:

Just posting this one time in regard to this issue.

Conservative Christians prefer to resolve their own problems on their own forum without the Liberal Overseas Aid Society.

Those who keep right on discussing and complaining about CCC need to refresh their knowledge of all the thousands of other threads on Christian Forums, Unlimited and see that there are already about gazillion other places on this humongous site to satisfy EVERY POSSIBLE discussion and issue and topic concern.

:doh:

Please correct me if I am wrong about that. Right now, members are complaining in other places about what we conservatives like to talk about here.

That means that THIS is the only place where such fellowship should be found, or ever might be found on CF.

Yet, over in our friends' place, where they do rule, WWMC now has posts suggesting that since neither there nor CCC is to their liking, it would be better to just combine the two in one forum.

:scratch:

This happily forces conservatives who do not care to interact with liberal issues to have no place of their own at all.

:help: :swoon:

Here is an excellent example of those who want to help "correct" CCC and why:

http://foru.ms/showpost.php?p=40196782&postcount=13

ContentInHim
28th October 2007, 05:26 PM
Thank you, Rochir, but no. :)

Rep Daddy
28th October 2007, 05:56 PM
We have consensus.
NO

Wiki hath spoken

Miss Shelby
28th October 2007, 06:06 PM
:eek:

I just know I gotta get new glasses.....

;)
Oh Brother. Or should I say Big Brother. ;)

Allow me a clarification,

There are no theological differences between myself and our liberal posters that not interacting with them on WWMC won't solve.

Better?

Lisa0315
28th October 2007, 06:10 PM
Oh Brother. Or should I say Big Brother. ;)

Allow me a clarification,

There are no theological differences between myself and our liberal posters that not interacting with them on WWMC won't solve.

Better?

LOL! No, not better.

I think you mean...

There are no theological differences between myself and our liberal posters that will be solved by interacting with them.

Lisa

Miss Shelby
28th October 2007, 06:11 PM
gotta love semantics. lol.

Lisa0315
28th October 2007, 06:13 PM
gotta love semantics. lol.

Fortunately, your Conservative Reputation precedes you so we all knew what you really meant. :P

Lisa

Latreia
28th October 2007, 06:19 PM
Fortunately, your Conservative Reputation precedes you so we all knew what you really meant. :P

Lisa


Oh, my, don't I know. Imagine the constant burden that I have just to maintain the outstandingly dubious reputation which I now enjoy.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/grdynangl/Smileys/aog_bud.gif

Lisa0315
28th October 2007, 06:23 PM
Oh, my, don't I know. Imagine the constant burden that I have just to maintain the outstandingly dubious reputation which I now enjoy.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/grdynangl/Smileys/aog_bud.gif

True, true. Tough job, but someone has to do it.

Lisa

Latreia
28th October 2007, 06:25 PM
True, true. Tough job, but someone has to do it.

Lisa


Oh, thank goodness!

At long, long, long last, someone understands.

But the big difference is that my reputation not
only precedes me, it is also behind me kicking
me in the Nethertheless Region.

:ebil:

MrJim
28th October 2007, 07:12 PM
Oh, thank goodness!

At long, long, long last, someone understands.

But the big difference is that my reputation not
only precedes me, it is also behind me kicking
me in the Nethertheless Region.

:ebil:

doesn't your Nethertheless Region get sore from all the kicking?:D

IamRedeemed
28th October 2007, 07:16 PM
That wouldn't be a bit of "sarcasm" would it? :confused:


doesn't your Nethertheless Region get sore from all the kicking?:D

IamRedeemed
28th October 2007, 07:17 PM
"Wiki hath spoken"

^_^^_^^_^


We have consensus.
NO

Wiki hath spoken

MrJim
28th October 2007, 07:20 PM
That wouldn't be a bit of "sarcasm" would it? :confused:

I was thinking a bit toward the punny end of things;)

Latreia
28th October 2007, 07:29 PM
doesn't your Nethertheless Region get sore from all the kicking?:D


Made a mistake, told the devil to get away from behind me. Forgot just how big my reputation had become.

But it only kicks me when I get criticized online.

:doh:

Oh, THAT'S why I walk with a limp!!!


:idea:



^_^

MrJim
28th October 2007, 07:32 PM
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IamRedeemed
28th October 2007, 07:37 PM
"punny".....now there's a word you don't hear very often...
:idea: in fact I think this is my very first time. ;) ^_^


I was thinking a bit toward the punny end of things;)

Nadiine
28th October 2007, 08:11 PM
Made a mistake, told the devil to get away from behind me. Forgot just how big my reputation had become.

But it only kicks me when I get criticized online.

:doh:

Oh, THAT'S why I walk with a limp!!!

:idea:

^_^

LOL :P

SolomonVII
29th October 2007, 12:47 AM
Well, sure! And that's why I often post there, though I'm a member here. I don't find liberal theology convincing, but I like rainbows! :D
Then you have common ground with the posters there. ...and a reason to spend your posting time there.
For myself, being in many ways a social conservative, I would have no common ground there as far as much liberal ideology goes.

But, insofar as there are discussions of Christ, then a conservative Christian may potentially find common ground in discussions of Christ there.
And if it is discussions about liberal theology, then so be it. As long as it is sincere belief about Christ, right or wrong, it is relevant, and of interest to me.

So as long as the members there are not even interested in even discussig that, then it's all about liking rainbows, and that's all.

SolomonVII
29th October 2007, 12:56 AM
Oh Brother. Or should I say Big Brother. ;)

Allow me a clarification,

There are no theological differences between myself and our liberal posters that not interacting with them on WWMC won't solve.

Better?
no, not, won't....
Triple negatory, clear enough.

Simple mathematics.
-1 x -1 x-1= -1.

Nadiine
29th October 2007, 09:01 AM
Then you have common ground with the posters there. ...and a reason to spend your posting time there.
For myself, being in many ways a social conservative, I would have no common ground there as far as much liberal ideology goes.

But, insofar as there are discussions of Christ, then a conservative Christian may potentially find common ground in discussions of Christ there.
And if it is discussions about liberal theology, then so be it. As long as it is sincere belief about Christ, right or wrong, it is relevant, and of interest to me.

So as long as the members there are not even interested in even discussig that, then it's all about liking rainbows, and that's all.
I think alot of the point around 4U is to keep it at rainbows and cotton candy - on purpose.

Even though there's nothing wrong with that, I think it's intended to keep people from constant wars everywhere... or at least salvage some friendship & love.
And part of me thinks that the wars do no good anyways becuz people are so entrenched in what they believe, that nothing's going to change that here; so why bother fighting back & forth?

I guess the best we can do is seek to understand why people believe what they do (or don't) - and just form assessments from that as to how we interact or divide.