Are we guilty of not loving?

[Hentenza]

Are we? Are we following Paul's words in Romans 12:9-21?

9Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. 10Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves. 11Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord. 12Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. 13Share with God's people who are in need. Practice hospitality. 14Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.
17Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. 18If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"says the Lord. 20On the contrary:
"If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head." 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

What do we need to change to follow the above?

[GreenMunchkin]

Are we? Are we following Paul's words in Romans 12:9-21?

9Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. 10Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves. 11Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord. 12Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. 13Share with God's people who are in need. Practice hospitality. 14Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.
17Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. 18If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"says the Lord. 20On the contrary:
"If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head." 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

What do we need to change to follow the above?Yes :(

Am sorry for everything I've done wrong.

Am sorry, Lord.

[Lisa0315]

I stand guilty before God too. I am sorry. Will limit my posts to fellowship only.

Lisa

[JimfromOhio]

It is hard to love another because LOVE forgives. Love hopes all things (1 Corinth 13). Love refuses to take human failure as final. Love forgives and love is unable to think about them anymore.

In 1 Corinthians 13:5 says "Love does not act unbecomingly"; which means a Christian should demonstrate godly love and have real Christian credibility.

Colossians 3:12-13 Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.

Colossians 3:13...........Forgive one another
Galatians 6:2..............Bear one another's burdens
1 Thessalonians 4:18....Comfort one another
Hebrews 10:25...........Exhort one another
Romans 14:19............Edify one another
Galatians 5:13............Love one another
Ephesians 4:12...........Love one another
1 Peter 1:22..............Love one another

Good thing my Red Sox is playing tonight. I will probably be tuning out of this forum for awhile. :doh:

[Colabomb]

It is hard to love another because LOVE forgives. Love hopes all things (1 Corinth 13). Love refuses to take human failure as final. Love forgives and love is unable to think about them anymore.

In 1 Corinthians 13:5 says "Love does not act unbecomingly"; which means a Christian should demonstrate godly love and have real Christian credibility.

Colossians 3:12-13 Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.

Colossians 3:13...........Forgive one another
Galatians 6:2..............Bear one another's burdens
1 Thessalonians 4:18....Comfort one another
Hebrews 10:25...........Exhort one another
Romans 14:19............Edify one another
Galatians 5:13............Love one another
Ephesians 4:12...........Love one another
1 Peter 1:22..............Love one another

Good thing my Red Sox is playing tonight. I will probably be tuning out of this forum for awhile. :doh:

From a Reds/Indians fan.....


GRRRRRR

[Nadiine]

Are we? Are we following Paul's words in Romans 12:9-21?

What do we need to change to follow the above?
I think this is easy, use the BIBLE to show us what real love is and is not by the examples set for us - both by word and by action.

I've beat the drum on how love is so misunderstood today. As if we have to walk around like STepford Wife robots with permanent smiles on our face & walk up to everybody and hug them and have only kind pleasantries to say --
It sounds not only robotic, but no offense, crazy. The Bible writers didn't even act like this. Yet we have this funky ideal of what "love" is.

And I think it's becuz of that, that all we do is throw around CORRECTIONS to everybody to "LOVE"... why is that? BECUZ IT'S UNNATURAL TO LOVE IN THE WAY YOU'RE EXPECTING IT.
That's why it doesn't come natural, it isn't natural - it's not real. It's your ideal based on a PC culture.

Paul is one of the harshest yet most LOVING men in the entire bible. His LOVE was for people's souls... he didn't spare peoples feelings to share truth - his motive was love, the delivery was firm and sometimes rude/harsh.

The reason you don't SEE love that you think should be shown is becuz it isn't naturally shown like that.
Discipline is love (love of justice & righteousness as well as the VICTIM who was wronged), rebuke is love (correcting wrongs or reprimanding to make something right), exhortation is love - (calling for what is right) - etc etc.

[Nadiine]

*I don't negate the verses on kindness, compassion, mercy, gentleness... yes, that is love too - but we don't remove and ignore the OTHER examples of what love is as well.

Jesus taught love, but He also showed LOVE OF GOD'S HOUSE by using a whip, yelling & turning over tables.

Love of God is always first. If that was a display of LOVE of God, then how is us being firm or harsh when a situation calls for it, "wrong"?

So we combine all the scriptures: teachings and examples both; not just cherry pick a few out as if those are the ONLY displays or definitions of love... becuz they are not.

God is love, yet He killed Ananias & Sapphira on the spot for lying about their offerings to God as an example.

[Hentenza]

Nadiine,

What in the world are you ranting about? My Op pertains ONLY to the verse that I posted. There is no reason to confuse love with weakness. Is that what you are saying?

[Epiphanygirl]

Love the sinner, hate the sin.........but do not join the sinner in his/her sin:holy:

[Nadiine]

Nadiine,

What in the world are you ranting about? My Op pertains ONLY to the verse that I posted. There is no reason to confuse love with weakness. Is that what you are saying?
No, not at all, I was giving an overall perspective on LOVE itself - you use those verses and I combine all others with yours to come up with what love is.

That's how I view the OP, you asked what do we need to CHANGE to follow the above... you need to change nothing - becuz that is not the "end all" of what Godly love encompasses.

and I'm not "ranting"... I'm unsure why you even call it that which implies a rude connotation to my view or input.

[Hentenza]

No, not at all, I was giving an overall perspective on LOVE itself - you use those verses and I combine all others with yours to come up with what love is.

That's how I view the OP, you asked what do we need to CHANGE to follow the above... you need to change nothing - becuz that is not the "end all" of what Godly love encompasses.

and I'm not "ranting"... I'm unsure why you even call it that which implies a rude connotation to my view or input.

You are right Nadiine. Please forgive me. I have been quite on edge today and did not respond lovingly to your post. Sorry.

[Nadiine]

You are right Nadiine. Please forgive me. I have been quite on edge today and did not respond lovingly to your post. Sorry.
Hen... honestly, you can disagree with me :hug: :hug:

It's ok, we're all on edge here... I keep my boxing gloves in my back pocket lol:P

Time for some GRACE around this place!! =0)

[Ishida]

I'm guilty. Dunno, just that whole social ineptness..

[woobadooba]

I think this is easy, use the BIBLE to show us what real love is and is not by the examples set for us - both by word and by action.

I've beat the drum on how love is so misunderstood today. As if we have to walk around like STepford Wife robots with permanent smiles on our face & walk up to everybody and hug them and have only kind pleasantries to say --
It sounds not only robotic, but no offense, crazy. The Bible writers didn't even act like this. Yet we have this funky ideal of what "love" is.

And I think it's becuz of that, that all we do is throw around CORRECTIONS to everybody to "LOVE"... why is that? BECUZ IT'S UNNATURAL TO LOVE IN THE WAY YOU'RE EXPECTING IT.
That's why it doesn't come natural, it isn't natural - it's not real. It's your ideal based on a PC culture.

Paul is one of the harshest yet most LOVING men in the entire bible. His LOVE was for people's souls... he didn't spare peoples feelings to share truth - his motive was love, the delivery was firm and sometimes rude/harsh.

The reason you don't SEE love that you think should be shown is becuz it isn't naturally shown like that.
Discipline is love (love of justice & righteousness as well as the VICTIM who was wronged), rebuke is love (correcting wrongs or reprimanding to make something right), exhortation is love - (calling for what is right) - etc etc.

You go Girl! :thumbsup:

God isn't looking for people pleasers. He's looking for implicit obedience!

[DArceri]

Are we? Are we following Paul's words in Romans 12:9-21?
Sadly we are not....


What do we need to change to follow the above?
Less 'me' and more HIM,...... for selfishness cannot love!

Just as it was a single selfish thought that caused angels to fall, so too it was a selfish thought that caused man to fall.

WE NEED TO KEEP OUR EYE ON THE CROSS!!! Let the Spirit of God fill us up DAILY!!!!!:)

[Voegelin]

Are we guilty of not loving? (http://foru.ms/showthread.php?p=40072531#post40072531)

No. For two reasons:

Christians are not a collective with collective guilt. We are saved individually and we sin or do not live up to the faith individually.

Christians do pretty well considering.

[Nadiine]

Are we guilty of not loving? (http://foru.ms/showthread.php?p=40072531#post40072531)

No. For two reasons:

Christians are not a collective with collective guilt. We are saved individually and we sin or do not live up to the faith individually.

Christians do pretty well considering.
I actually agree with this statement very much.

I think too, we have to realize, REAL Christianity is outside this forum; all around the world!
We're basing God's church BY MAYBE 500 PEOPLE ON A FORUM BOARD (which erwin opened up to heresy which intermingles & calls itself "Christian").

This isn't probly 1/2 of a % of the amount of Christians in this world. If you want to see LOVE, head out to the churches - get out into the real world & watch it displayed.
All the Christian charity groups -- all the churches that have outreach programs to help those in their communities...

The Christian prayer groups within the church.. missionaries that give their lives to preach the gospel etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

This is a miniscule, polarized area that the leader opened up to false teachers and tried to unite sheep with goats everywhere... of course you'll see fighting, the Bible tells us they cannot unite as one.

Great post :thumbsup: :thumbsup: and thank you.

[Latreia]

Romans 12:9-21

Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.

Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves.


Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord.

Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer.

Share with God's people who are in need. Practice hospitality.

Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.

Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn.

Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position.
Do not be conceited.

Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody.

If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.

Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"says the Lord.

On the contrary:
"If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."

Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Amen

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These are my new CC forum rules.

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[Father Rick]

Romans 12:9-21

Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.

Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves.


Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord.

Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer.

Share with God's people who are in need. Practice hospitality.

Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.

Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn.

Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position.
Do not be conceited.

Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody.

If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.

Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"says the Lord.

On the contrary:
"If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."

Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Amen

I am copying this to keep open in a text file next to the CF window thread that I am posting in, from now on.

These are my new CC forum rules.

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[Latreia]

Romans 12:9-21

Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.

Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves.


Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord.

Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer.

Share with God's people who are in need. Practice hospitality.

Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.

Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn.

Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position.
Do not be conceited.

Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody.

If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.

Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"says the Lord.

On the contrary:
"If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."

Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Amen



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