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IamRedeemed
24th October 2007, 12:34 PM
Nothing is hidden from God. (incase you didn't know)

I didn't sign out citing Jim's refusal to answer my question.
(to those saying that and those who are listening to them. Go to the sign in thread and you will see what was said.)

I wasn't aware that he had refused. Not even sure if he had seen it yet.

I had only written my question maybe 15 minutes or so before I signed out of here. I know it wasn't
too long, and there was no way for me to know if Jim had seen it much less refused to answer it.
My question to Jim I already know the answer to, just as soon as I asked it, as this forum and
the posts therein have already answered the question before it was asked so I didn't need to wait for his answer.

The only edit to my post in the sign in thread was to add that "there is no reason for soldiers to
fight for something their general doesn't believe in because he'll only lead them into slaughter."

Clearly I did not sign out because of Jim's supposed refusal to answer my question.

Latreia
24th October 2007, 12:53 PM
Matthew 10:26 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&chapter=10&verse=26&version=77)


Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
[ Fear God ] "Therefore, don't be afraid of them, since there is nothing covered that won't be uncovered, and nothing hidden that won't be made known.
Matthew 10:25-27 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&chapter=10&verse=25&end_verse=27&version=77&context=context) (in Context) Matthew 10 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&chapter=10&version=77&context=chapter) (Whole Chapter)
Mark 4:22 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=48&chapter=4&verse=22&version=45;46;77)
Amplified Bible (AMP)
[ Things are hidden temporarily only as a means to revelation.] For there is nothing hidden except to be revealed, nor is anything [temporarily] kept secret except in order that it may be made known.
Mark 4:21-23 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=48&chapter=4&verse=21&end_verse=23&version=45&context=context) (in Context) Mark 4 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=48&chapter=4&version=45&context=chapter) (Whole Chapter)
Contemporary English Version (CEV)
There is nothing hidden that will not be made public. There is no secret that will not be well known.
Mark 4:21-23 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=48&chapter=4&verse=21&end_verse=23&version=46&context=context) (in Context) Mark 4 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=48&chapter=4&version=46&context=chapter) (Whole Chapter)
Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
For nothing is concealed except to be revealed, and nothing hidden except to come to light.
Mark 4:21-23 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=48&chapter=4&verse=21&end_verse=23&version=77&context=context) (in Context) Mark 4 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=48&chapter=4&version=77&context=chapter) (Whole Chapter)
Luke 8:17 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=8&verse=17&version=31;45;46;77)
New International Version (NIV)
For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.
Luke 8:16-18 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=8&verse=16&end_verse=18&version=31&context=context) (in Context) Luke 8 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=8&version=31&context=chapter) (Whole Chapter)
Amplified Bible (AMP)
For there is nothing hidden that shall not be disclosed, nor anything secret that shall not be known and come out into the open.
Luke 8:16-18 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=8&verse=16&end_verse=18&version=45&context=context) (in Context) Luke 8 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=8&version=45&context=chapter) (Whole Chapter)
Contemporary English Version (CEV)
There is nothing hidden that will not be found. There is no secret that will not be well known.
Luke 8:16-18 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=8&verse=16&end_verse=18&version=46&context=context) (in Context) Luke 8 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=8&version=46&context=chapter) (Whole Chapter)
Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
For nothing is concealed that won't be revealed, and nothing hidden that won't be made known and come to light.
Luke 8:16-18 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=8&verse=16&end_verse=18&version=77&context=context) (in Context) Luke 8 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=8&version=77&context=chapter) (Whole Chapter)
Luke 12:2 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=12&verse=2&version=77)


Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
There is nothing covered that won't be uncovered, nothing hidden that won't be made known.
Luke 12:1-3 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=12&verse=1&end_verse=3&version=77&context=context) (in Context) Luke 12 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=49&chapter=12&version=77&context=chapter) (Whole Chapter)

IamRedeemed
24th October 2007, 12:59 PM
Amen, and thank you for your post.

IamRedeemed
24th October 2007, 01:17 PM
And in response to additional revelation of things done in the dark.....that is not hidden from God:

John 15:1-21

1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

2 Every branch in me that bears not fruit he takes away: and every branch that bears fruit, he purges it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now you are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can you, except you abide in me.

5 I am the vine, you are the branches: He that abides in me, and I in him, the same brings forth much fruit: for without me you can do nothing.

6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, you shall ask what ye will,
and it shall be done unto you.

8 Herein is my Father glorified, that you bear much fruit; so shall you be my disciples.

9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.

10 If you keep my commandments, you shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you,
and that your joy might be full.


12 This is my commandment, That you love one another, as I have loved you.


13Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

14 You are my friends, if you do whatsoever I command you.

15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knows not what his lord does:
but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father
I have made known unto you.


16 You have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you,
that you should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain:
that whatsoever you shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.


17 These things I command you, that you love one another.


18 If the world hate you, you know that it hated me before it hated you.


19 If you were of the world, the world would love his own: but because
you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world,
therefore the world hates you.


20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater
than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you;
if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.


21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because
they know not him that sent me.

2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship
hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion has light with darkness?

James 4:4
You adulterers and adulteresses, do you not know that the friendship of
the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of
the world is the enemy of God.

Matthew 7:21
Not every one that says unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the
kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven.

If the world loves you and you are not being persecuted for standing for His ways,
then chances are you are heading in same direction they are,
as Jesus is not a liar.

Ishida
24th October 2007, 01:21 PM
I know a post like this has no use in a thread like this, but I wonder, will even the good done in the darkness be brought into light?

PreachersWife2004
24th October 2007, 01:24 PM
I didn't get the impression that you resigned because of Jim's refusal to answer your question - heck, the question wasn't even up there long for him to refuse. It did seem rather odd that you would post that and then all of a sudden pull your membership.

The impression that I DID get, though, was that you weren't going to be happy with Jim's answer regardless of what it was.

As to this "dark" talk, you can stop with that. I'd report it for baiting but the mods have enough work to do already.

Nadiine
24th October 2007, 01:39 PM
I know a post like this has no use in a thread like this, but I wonder, will even the good done in the darkness be brought into light?
I tend to think that the goodness IS light... or already IN the light??
Just a thought :)

Latreia
24th October 2007, 01:41 PM
I know a post like this has no use in a thread like this, but I wonder, will even the good done in the darkness be brought into light?

The goodness IS the LIGHT.

:amen:

Lisa0315
24th October 2007, 01:41 PM
I don't have to wait for Jim's answer to my question. Relativism is apparently going to become the new god of this forum, so I choose not to be associated with this forum any longer. A servant of God has to recognize the time when it comes that he should dust his feet and take his peace back with him.

Edit to add: There is no sense in the soldiers fighting for something the general doesn't believe in as he
will just lead them into slaughter.

You are relating Jim not answering you with relativism as the new god of this forum. Then, you follow that with your resignation. How else is one supposed to read that? English majors? Tell me if the leading sentence and the concluding sentence of a paragraph are not supposed to link the body together?

Do not EVER accuse me of lying again. That is NOT something that I am guilty of.

Lisa

Latreia
24th October 2007, 01:44 PM
I didn't get the impression that you resigned because of Jim's refusal to answer your question - heck, the question wasn't even up there long for him to refuse. It did seem rather odd that you would post that and then all of a sudden pull your membership.

The impression that I DID get, though, was that you weren't going to be happy with Jim's answer regardless of what it was.

As to this "dark" talk, you can stop with that. I'd report it for baiting but the mods have enough work to do already.

It is not much of a surprise to think that "Staff" is now training future mods to actually threaten members in posts.

Your little act of "grace" just withered on the vine.

:scratch:

Nadiine
24th October 2007, 01:47 PM
It is not much of a surprise to think that "Staff" is now training future mods to actually threaten members in posts.

Your little act of "grace" just withered on the vine.

:scratch:
That is exactly what the word is going around... in my pms.
It's some of the staff that's heading up things that are going on w/ the changes here - promotion of it.

I don't know, but after seeing Jim47's thread on RELAXING the rules & restrictions even more becuz what's here is already LEGALISTIC... that's very telling to me.

Nadiine
24th October 2007, 01:48 PM
Well, YOU resigned. But that is not enough, is it? Here you are, preying on the ones you despise.

And their are a whole passel of those who no longer understand what lying really means, it is all, uh, "relative" to them.

:bow:
See my post in the Sign in Thread:

Here's my Q... why is everyone signing out, THEN GOING RIGHT BACK INTO THE FIGHT THREADS TO KEEP BATTLING & ARGUING??????????????????

I don't get why people get so fed up, they leave, then here they are reading all the threads & joining back in??

gosh, it's actually getting ridiculous - like this place & the drama is addictive or something.

IF YOU LEFT BECUZ OF THE FIGHTING, THEN STAY OUT OF IT NOW.
Not that I guess they can't... I wonder why they left if they're going to continue. :scratch: :confused: :doh:

Lisa0315
24th October 2007, 01:49 PM
Well, YOU resigned. But that is not enough, is it? Here you are, preying on the ones you despise.

And their are a whole passel of those who no longer understand what lying really means, it is all, uh, "relative" to them.

:bow:

She resigned too darlin'. What is she doing here calling me a liar after she "left"?

Lisa

IamRedeemed
24th October 2007, 01:51 PM
Hi Ishida,

According to the Word of God, we can be assured most definitely!! :clap:

So that your deeds of charity may be in secret; and
your Father Who sees in secret will reward you openly.
Matthew 6:4 (Amplified)

God bless!

I know a post like this has no use in a thread like this, but I wonder, will even the good done in the darkness be brought into light?

Nadiine
24th October 2007, 01:52 PM
Maybe once you officially sign out, it's easier to fight becuz you supposedly have NOTHING vested in this forum as a member might care?
I dunno - I do wonder tho.

Latreia
24th October 2007, 01:53 PM
Nadiine, just two words apply:

Coercion and manipulation

'Nough said.

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

PreachersWife2004
24th October 2007, 01:53 PM
Um, IAR resigned too, Nadiine, but I certainly don't see you busting her chops for still posting here. Wonder why that is? Oh, wait, it's because you AGREE with her.

Now, to disclaim any notions yet again that I am posting as staff here, let me reiterate:

I AM NOT STAFF HERE. EVEN WHEN I BECOME A MOD, IT WILL NOT BE IN THIS FORUM.
So you guys need to quit equating what I post with staff, got that?

PreachersWife2004
24th October 2007, 01:54 PM
Maybe once you officially sign out, it's easier to fight becuz you supposedly have NOTHING vested in this forum as a member might care?
I dunno - I do wonder tho.

Ask your sister, IAR, as she is resigned too.

Latreia
24th October 2007, 01:57 PM
She resigned too darlin'. What is she doing here calling me a liar after she "left"?

Lisa

Because we do love her as a Christian sister, and she knows that. She comes back to be with us.

She resigned to show her protest.
I think a lot of us need to clean
out the CC nest of staff and vote
in those who are for us.

But of course, this cannot happen
unless all the non-conservative
members resign, too.

You think we do not know exactly
what is going on?

Think again.

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

IamRedeemed
24th October 2007, 01:57 PM
[quote=PreachersWife2004;40068120]I didn't get the impression that you resigned because of Jim's refusal to answer your question - heck, the question wasn't even up there long for him to refuse. It did seem rather odd that you would post that and then all of a sudden pull your membership.

I don't know what "impression" you got, but that is what you were told. Thank you for the confirmation though of what you observed which is much different that what you were told, and is accurate as far as the length of time it was up before I left, which I explained I actually had my answer the moment I posted the question. And in fact I believe that can even be validated by my posts in the "what can I do to help" thread.

The demon here is not the people, it is the god of relativism. Some have yielded to it and some of us haven't..


The impression that I DID get, though, was that you weren't going to be happy with Jim's answer regardless of what it was.

As to this "dark" talk, you can stop with that. I'd report it for baiting but the mods have enough work to do already.

Dark talk? Is it against the rules to say that what some may think is done in the dark and hidden is not in the dark before God because nothing is hidden in His sight?

GreenMunchkin
24th October 2007, 01:59 PM
Closed for review nd clean-up

Jim47
25th October 2007, 10:32 PM
Closed for review nd clean-up





Per report, this thread will not be re-opened.