A message from Time's "dead" wife...

[Father Rick]

No... this is not some form of necromancy. I am not a medium!

Time's wife contacted me to let me know that she is NOT dead as Time told everyone here. She gave me permission to publish here the fact that she is alive (and actually doing well from my recent discussions with her). She was very saddened and hurt by the fact that Time used a made up story of her death to justify some of his actions and garner sympathy for himself-- especially when she read some of the posts by members here saying they were "grieving with him" over her supposed death.

[GreenMunchkin]

Father Rick, have unapproved this thread.

This isn't helpful. For the record, he didn't say she died: he said he "lost her".

Will let admin know about this thread and if they okay it, you're good to go. But otherwise this is just strife and turmoil in the making.

I hope you understand :hug:

[Father Rick]

Father Rick, have unapproved this thread.

This isn't helpful. For the record, he didn't say she died: he said he "lost her".

Will let admin know about this thread and if they okay it, you're good to go. But otherwise this is just strife and turmoil in the making.

I hope you understand :hug:
I do understand...

Several times she told me she wanted people to know the truth. She feels victimized by his statements... as well as feeling "her death" was used to victimize others... and wanted people know.

[GreenMunchkin]

I do understand...

Several times she told me she wanted people to know the truth. She feels victimized by his statements... as well as feeling "her death" was used to victimize others... and wanted people know.I understand. Truly. But given how contentious things have been, CC isn't the place for it right now.

And I hope she knows he didn't say she died. He said he lost her, and many people jumped to conclusions.

But, either way, have let ET admin know about the thread, so if they say it's ok, I'll re-approve it :)

Thanks for being understanding, dude :hug:

[Tishri1]

I would allow it but can I ak Jim to step in as well before we unapprove it:wave:

[GreenMunchkin]

Permission has been given to approve it, so this thread is open now.

Will be keeping an eye on it, though, so please please everyone, no attacks or flames or anger, ok?

:hug::hug:

[LivingLifeHisWay]

I'm just shocked. Is this true...feel so out of the loop. ::(:

[BelindaP]

FTR, he didn't state outright that she was dead, only that he had 'lost' her. But, yes, it's true.

[Father Rick]

FTR, he didn't state outright that she was dead, only that he had 'lost' her. But, yes, it's true.
Just relaying the info...

Apparently, she interpretted it that way, as did others here. Honestly, I'm not sure where the posts are where he said one way or the other.

[Rhamiel]

Well he is gone now, let the past stay in the past, glad to hear his wife is not dead, glad to see Belinda and Fr. Rick are sticking around here, but I think the best thing to do is just move on from all this fighting

[GreenMunchkin]

Well he is gone now, let the past stay in the past, glad to hear his wife is not dead, glad to see Belinda and Fr. Rick are sticking around here, but I think the best thing to do is just move on from all this fightingQFT :hug:

[Nadiine]

YET MORE GOSSIP - now just made in whole threads.

"losing someone" isn't death, is it?

[Nadiine]

I'm just shocked. Is this true...feel so out of the loop. ::(:
Yes, you're out of the loop, Frick is here letting you know other people's information and situations that you wouldn't have known about otherwise... when the person is not here to say anything.

Somehow nobody notices what this is or calls it what it is.

GOSSIP against someone who is not here to defend themselves.
Obviously people have personal issues and can't let things go.

AGENDA???

[PreachersWife2004]

Time truly does need our prayers more than ever then.

How sad.

:cry:

[BelindaP]

And would it be gossip if she were to come here herself and post?

[Auntie]

This thread is nothing but evil gossip. But I'm not surprised it was approved.

[BelindaP]

So, letting people continue to believe your wife is dead to garner sympathy isn't evil?

[Simon_Templar]

For the record, its not gossip when the person in question (Time) makes it a matter of public domain by sharing about it himself.

Since he is the one who brought the issue up, deliberately misinforming people, its not gossip to let people know that what he said publically, was not true.

[PreachersWife2004]

Ya know what?

I once belonged to a forum where a husband and wife team played everyone for a fool. They tandem posted with two separate accounts.

The husband began to post that his wife had cancer. She was posting about her chemo treatments, and going through hospice.

One day, he posted that his wife had lost the battle with cancer. Oh, man, we were so sad. We had invested our lives, our time, our money for this poor woman. The only thing that comforted some of us who were Christians was that she was in a better place.

7 months later, a husband and wife team showed up at a different forum that I was a moderator at. It had some small connections with the first forum in that two or three people from that forum posted in this one. Pretty soon, the husband started posting about his wife's cancer. The posts had a very familiar ring to them. The wife stopped posting after two or three posts. Within three months the husband was asking if people could help donate money because their medical bills were piling up. Someone set up a paypal account, and at the last balance check there had been over $2500 sent to that account.

Well, I got suspicious, because the husband's posting style was very similar to the one from the other forum. I did an IP check, and the IP address gave a location that was within three miles from where the first husband and wife were. Then I did a google search on their names. It is funny what a google search can turn up. Found out that there were at least four other forums that these people were posting at, with a combination of names.

I immediately got in touch with the senior staff of the forum, and they decided to call these people out. All of our info was also handed over to local law enforcement.

Was it gossip when we posted on the forum exactly what had happened? Maybe it was, but people needed to know the truth of the situation. As with the first forum, many people had invested their lives and their money with these people. They were suckered.

I am not saying that Time suckered anybody. What I am saying is that I am glad Father Rick posted this. It would be nice, yes, if there were actual physical proof that this is indeed what happened, although I'm sure that would not be enough to stifle the "righteous anger" that will come from this thread.

:sigh:

[Nadiine]

Time truly does need our prayers more than ever then.

How sad.

:cry:
it's beyond SAD, and look who supports it.
Whatever, God is judge. let them enjoy a season.

[Nadiine]

Ya know what?

I once belonged to a forum where a husband and wife team played everyone for a fool. They tandem posted with two separate accounts.

The husband began to post that his wife had cancer. She was posting about her chemo treatments, and going through hospice.

One day, he posted that his wife had lost the battle with cancer. Oh, man, we were so sad. We had invested our lives, our time, our money for this poor woman. The only thing that comforted some of us who were Christians was that she was in a better place.

7 months later, a husband and wife team showed up at a different forum that I was a moderator at. It had some small connections with the first forum in that two or three people from that forum posted in this one. Pretty soon, the husband started posting about his wife's cancer. The posts had a very familiar ring to them. The wife stopped posting after two or three posts. Within three months the husband was asking if people could help donate money because their medical bills were piling up. Someone set up a paypal account, and at the last balance check there had been over $2500 sent to that account.

Well, I got suspicious, because the husband's posting style was very similar to the one from the other forum. I did an IP check, and the IP address gave a location that was within three miles from where the first husband and wife were. Then I did a google search on their names. It is funny what a google search can turn up. Found out that there were at least four other forums that these people were posting at, with a combination of names.

I immediately got in touch with the senior staff of the forum, and they decided to call these people out. All of our info was also handed over to local law enforcement.

Was it gossip when we posted on the forum exactly what had happened? Maybe it was, but people needed to know the truth of the situation. As with the first forum, many people had invested their lives and their money with these people. They were suckered.

I am not saying that Time suckered anybody. What I am saying is that I am glad Father Rick posted this. It would be nice, yes, if there were actual physical proof that this is indeed what happened, although I'm sure that would not be enough to stifle the "righteous anger" that will come from this thread.

:sigh:
THE ISSUE IS, HE'S NOT HERE NOW... why continue a tyrade??
And he isn't here to say anything about it or clarify anything.

Lovely timing to kick someone when they're down (GONE).
Anyone see a problem here?
I can assure you that I can make anyone look bad and seem wrong when I give you just my side of story.
You don't continue AFTER someone's banned.

[Auntie]

Evil, nothing but pure evil.:(

[Letalis]

Fr. Rick, you felt this was an appropriate thread to make?

[PreachersWife2004]

it's beyond SAD, and look who supports it.
Whatever, God is judge. let them enjoy a season.

I think it is beyond sad that he felt he had to be dishonest about something like this.

[Nadiine]

And would it be gossip if she were to come here herself and post?
IT'S GOSSIP. anyone who doesn't know T2BC, wouldn't know any of this... till frick makes a thread to announce it for some personal purpose he has going....

not becomming of a person that claims to be a priest especially... I'd think a person of clergy would be above something like this -
knowing the person in question is SILENCED and banned; not able to speak in defense.

I thank GOD that God is my judge and not you guys here. truly.
I'm thankful

[Nadiine]

I think it is beyond sad that he felt he had to be dishonest about something like this.
You're hearing ONE SIDE OF THE STORY. and forming your judgments.
Perhaps if he were here, he could explain something.
But... that's the beauty of this thread isn't it.

[Nicki4Christ]

Not trying stir anything here. But did Time ever say she was "dead"? Or did We just jump to that conclusion? I remember him saying he lost the love of his life of eight years. I did assume he meant lost to mean dead, but I ASSUMED. And my reply was I am sorry for your loss. Which he accepted. If someone said the same to you would you, say Oh, no no I did not mean she was Dead. Or would you say to yourself, Bummer, thanks, yeah she is missed. (sorry rambling)

Maybe I am missing something... Did anyone come out and say " your wifes dead?" And he agreed? Or did he know we were taking it wrong and let it play out? What ever, this is getting old, I feel for him, and I don't think its right to let this keep becoming our focus. No point in it really...


I still am sorry for his loss. From the posts regarding his loss love, you can tell he was grieving. I just ASSUMED something that was not true. My Bad, Not Time's

:o

[Cheri67]

Well..yanno people...

Heres the deal.. I am/was Times wife...I am not dead. And, let me say for the record..."Fixing CC" post #45. It states that Times wife just died and he is grieving.

SOMETHING..got mixed up SOMEWHERE..

In any event..as much as Time and I have between us..I WILL say its not right he cant say anything still being banned.

I gave permission for Father Rick to express to those who were thinking I was dead that it wasnt so. Becuz its not.

Whether from a misunderstanding, or what. Although..I DO have a hard time seeing someone tell everyone at a forum his partner is dead when they also post around the same forum. Thats kinda skirtin stupid there...

Anyway...let it be. I aint dead. I would suggest whoever might have gotten the "lost" comment, mixed up with "dead" ..at least be humble and say sorry. People can be hurt when things get warped. Intentionally or UNintentionally

[IamRedeemed]

This is completely unnecessary. If Time said he lost his wife, that doesn't mean his grief was less, because she didn't die. I am not familiar with the story. He never said it to me, although I did not know him that long and am not familiar with past posts. If he didn't say but allowed people to believe it, okay then he was wrong. But he is not even here to speak in his defense, you got what you wanted. Why not leave him alone?

What I would like to know is when is the witchhunt against him going to end?

This is nothing but more divisive discussion.

When is this forgiveness and love that is constantly spoken about here going to ooze its way over and cover Time? :|

[BelindaP]

He may be gone, but the damage he did to a number of people remains. Add to that the fact that he may very well get his ban overturned and be back. After hearing about what a solid Christian guy he is from himself and his friends (who are more than welcome to defend him if they like), I think people have a right to know more about him. He painted a very different picture of himself than what he really is, and people have a right to know that.

[Nadiine]

IT'S GOSSIP. anyone who doesn't know T2BC, wouldn't know any of this... till frick makes a thread to announce it for some personal purpose he has going....

not becomming of a person that claims to be a priest especially... I'd think a person of clergy would be above something like this -
knowing the person in question is SILENCED and banned; not able to speak in defense.

I thank GOD that God is my judge and not you guys here. truly.
I'm thankful
DOES AN UNBELIEVER WHO COMES INTO THIS SECTION NEED TO KNOW THIS ABOUT A FELLOW MEMBER THAT WAS HERE??'

HOW DOES THIS EDIFY CHRIST?
How does this EDIFY TIME?? Do you LOVE & pray for your enemies? OR DO YOU KICK THEM WHEN THEY'RE DOWN?

Is this love for another?

[Father Rick]

IT'S GOSSIP. anyone who doesn't know T2BC, wouldn't know any of this... till frick makes a thread to announce it for some personal purpose he has going....

not becomming of a person that claims to be a priest especially... I'd think a person of clergy would be above something like this -
knowing the person in question is SILENCED and banned; not able to speak in defense.

I thank GOD that God is my judge and not you guys here. truly.
I'm thankful
Actually...

I knew nothing of the situation one way or the other until the wife contacted me... explaining how hurt she was by the whole situation... how hurt she was reading other posters say they were crying, grieving over her death, etc.

Yet, she was afraid to post anything herself... fearing the kind of reaction some would have to finding out how they had been deceived.

[Rhamiel]

I don't know how I feel, I liked Time, I hated the way he argued with people and his paranoid view of some other posters but I still liked him.
This thread does not have charitable feel to it, if he felt the need to lie to us then he has more emotional/spiritual problems and he needs our prayers and suport
I know some of you do not think of him as a friend, that is ok you do not have to be friends with everyone, I know I am not friends with everyone, but you are called to love everyone

[Nadiine]

He may be gone, but the damage he did to a number of people remains. Add to that the fact that he may very well get his ban overturned and be back. After hearing about what a solid Christian guy he is from himself and his friends (who are more than welcome to defend him if they like), I think people have a right to know more about him. He painted a very different picture of himself than what he really is, and people have a right to know that.
NO --------------- bitterness remains Belinda.

bitterness.

And you of all people should be using your CORRECTION this time on the OP. But he's your buddy, so I'm sure he's doing right.

WHAT HAPPENED TO LOVE BELINDA? love of enemy? love of those who spitefully use you??
Is this what we do when they're gone and can't defend themselves?

AND AM I TO JUST BELIEVE YOU GUYS?? I form no judgements until I hear BOTH sides of the story.

EVEN IF IT WERE TRUE it doesn't warrent this thread and the motive behind it which is obvious.

[BelindaP]

This is completely unnecessary. If Time said he lost his wife, that doesn't mean his grief was less, because she didn't die. I am not familiar with the story. He never said it to me, although I did not know him that long and am not familiar with past posts. If he didn't say but allowed people to believe it, okay then he was wrong. But he is not even here to speak in his defense, you got what you wanted. Why not leave him alone?

What I would like to know is when is the witchhunt against him going to end?

This is nothing but more divisive discussion.

When is this forgiveness and love that is constantly spoken about here going to ooze its way over and cover Time? :|

Generally, for forgiveness to happen, there needs to be a modicum of humility and repentance. I haven't seen any evidence of that. He isn't banned over at iidb, and he's still carrying on with his crap. So, he isn't silenced by a wide margin.

[IamRedeemed]

Hi nice to meet you. :wave:

Amen, whoever said that should definitely admit to their err.
I personally had never heard it (until this thread) and Time never said
anything like that to me.

Again, it's nice to meet you.

God bless.


Well..yanno people...

Heres the deal.. I am/was Times wife...I am not dead. And, let me say for the record..."Fixing CC" post #45. It states that Times wife just died and he is grieving.

SOMETHING..got mixed up SOMEWHERE..

In any event..as much as Time and I have between us..I WILL say its not right he cant say anything still being banned.

I gave permission for Father Rick to express to those who were thinking I was dead that it wasnt so. Becuz its not.

Whether from a misunderstanding, or what. Although..I DO have a hard time seeing someone tell everyone at a forum his partner is dead when they also post around the same forum. Thats kinda skirtin stupid there...

Anyway...let it be. I aint dead. I would suggest whoever might have gotten the "lost" comment, mixed up with "dead" ..at least be humble and say sorry. People can be hurt when things get warped. Intentionally or UNintentionally

[Hentenza]

Well..yanno people...

Heres the deal.. I am/was Times wife...I am not dead. And, let me say for the record..."Fixing CC" post #45. It states that Times wife just died and he is grieving.

SOMETHING..got mixed up SOMEWHERE..

In any event..as much as Time and I have between us..I WILL say its not right he cant say anything still being banned.

I gave permission for Father Rick to express to those who were thinking I was dead that it wasnt so. Becuz its not.

Whether from a misunderstanding, or what. Although..I DO have a hard time seeing someone tell everyone at a forum his partner is dead when they also post around the same forum. Thats kinda skirtin stupid there...

Anyway...let it be. I aint dead. I would suggest whoever might have gotten the "lost" comment, mixed up with "dead" ..at least be humble and say sorry. People can be hurt when things get warped. Intentionally or UNintentionally

Cheri,

Thank you for posting your side. It is important that people hear what you have to say.

[Nadiine]

I don't know how I feel, I liked Time, I hated the way he argued with people and his paranoid view of some other posters but I still liked him.
This thread does not have charitable feel to it, if he felt the need to lie to us then he has more emotional/spiritual problems and he needs our prayers and suport
I know some of you do not think of him as a friend, that is ok you do not have to be friends with everyone, I know I am not friends with everyone, but you are called to love everyone
Rham, unless he could explain himself, you're only hearing these people's view of everything.
If he can't speak for himself while people stand around like vultures over a dead carcass.... how can you know the full truth??
I just met him 3 wks ago or so -I haven't asked him about all this yet, BUT I'M NOT JUMPING ON THIS BANDWAGON TO JUDGE HIM like this.

who are WE to throw stones?

[BelindaP]

Nadiine, you're a fine one to talk about correcting. That's all you ever do--even to the poor seekers who come in here asking for help. Spare us, please.

[IamRedeemed]

Let the humility start with his Christian accusers.
He is not even here to defend himself, he is banned.


The Roman Soldiers weren't asking for Christ's forgiveness
when He asked the Father to forgive them.

We are not at IIDB. Post this garbage there then.


Generally, for forgiveness to happen, there needs to be a modicum of humility and repentance. I haven't seen any evidence of that. He isn't banned over at iidb, and he's still carrying on with his crap. So, he isn't silenced by a wide margin.

[Nadiine]

Nadiine, you're a fine one to talk about correcting. That's all you ever do--even to the poor seekers who come in here asking for help. Spare us, please.
ahhh, now we see the spirit belinda. thank you

PS. I GAVE HIM HELP, SEE MY FIRST POST. ;)

[Cheri67]

Backatcha..Hent and IAR..

I dont want to be a enemy of either side..and I got my issues with that man you can take that to the bank..lol

BUT..a misunderstanding of the term "loss', should really be clarified, as I said, it can be hurtful to all parties involved...

[Hentenza]

I will remind everyone to please do not address each other disrespectfully. If this thread turns into a flame fest I will close the thread.

[Hentenza]

Sorry folks I meant to post a mod hat but ticked the wrong box. It's hell getting old.:sorry:

[Letalis]

Sorry folks I meant to post a mod hat but ticked the wrong box. It's hell getting old.:sorry:
Maybe it's a sign.

[IamRedeemed]

I thought the thread was locked. It was a moment ago. hmm:scratch:

Hen, I don't see how it can come to anything else. This post should not have been posted here. I am glad that Cheri popped in to give some clarity of how she found out about it and that it is due to someone else's misunderstanding. (which is how rumors start).
But that is not how the OP reads, and I think it was wise whoever locked it in the first place, and they should lock it again. Permanently this time.


I will remind everyone to please do not address each other disrespectfully. If this thread turns into a flame fest I will close the thread.

[Rhamiel]

Nadiine does not like seeing a friend attacked
Belinda does not like being lied to, especially about something as important as the death of a spouse.

We do not know what Time ment by "loss" it could have been a straight out lie, it could have been a missunderstanding, I do not like the tone of this thread.
Fr.Rick and Belinda, both of you are kind of new to posting in CC, both of you have entered with a little controversy, is this the best way to handel things? oh and Times not so dead wife, glad to see you are not dead

[Simon_Templar]

oh and Times not so dead wife, glad to see you are not dead

lol this just struck me funny :)

but yes.. I also am glad you are not dead.

[IamRedeemed]

unsubscribing

[Nicki4Christ]

Unsubscribing:(

[Hentenza]

Closing for staff review. Thread to remain close per OP.