Check Out This Book!!!

[paleodoxy]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195124367/ref=wl_it_dp/104-8425974-7234360?ie=UTF8&coliid=I9VMDQUGV5I5V&colid=2NHW8FOQIV5XR

[Philothei]

I would be very cautious and read first both Aquinnas and Palamas separetely.... their theology is confusing as it is never mind the modern scholarship... Get the "Triads" of Palamas first and read some Orthodox commentaries before you "dive" into this book....IMO.

God bless,
Philothei

[jckstraw72]

hey i read some of that for an independent study. couldnt really tell you what it said though -- but i remember it being good.

[Theophorus]

Looks interesting. I have been told that Aquinas' approach is much different than the Orthodox approach, even if there are some shared similarities.

One to put on my list.

[ClementofRome]

Expensive little bugger ain't it? :)

At that price, it is bound to be a published doctoral dissertation. In fact, the title sounds like a doctoral dissertation.

[fuerein]

Expensive little bugger ain't it? :)

At that price, it is bound to be a published doctoral dissertation. In fact, the title sounds like a doctoral dissertation.
Wow. Didn't even notice that. $74 for a 230pg. hardbound? ouch.

[ClementofRome]

Wow. Didn't even notice that. $74 for a 230pg. hardbound? ouch.

Published doctoral dissertations with a fairly low production rate will often run between $75-$100. I am in process of having mine published this year and I am sure the selling price will be around $85. Do you know how much I will get from that? If I am lucky, $5!!!

[Philothei]

in all honesty Clem you think that this guy has done a thorough job of juxtapositioning both fathers...??

And if so how do I know if he has missed crucial elements of any of them. I still believe you have to read first both Theologians seperately to be able to critique it and find out their differences.

God bless,
Philothei

[paleodoxy]

Actually, I believe it's a woman who wrote the book.

Also, one of the book reviews claims that she chalks up the East's essence/energies distinction to semantics...but some of the reviewers said that the book was very good in spite of that.

I don't know.

[paleodoxy]

Published doctoral dissertations with a fairly low production rate will often run between $75-$100. I am in process of having mine published this year and I am sure the selling price will be around $85. Do you know how much I will get from that? If I am lucky, $5!!!

Clem, what is your dissertation on (if I may ask)?

[paleodoxy]

I would be very cautious and read first both Aquinnas and Palamas separetely.... their theology is confusing as it is never mind the modern scholarship... Get the "Triads" of Palamas first and read some Orthodox commentaries before you "dive" into this book....IMO.

God bless,
Philothei

Never fear. Palamas' Triads are also on my wish list at Amazon. :)

[jckstraw72]

Triads = yummy

[paleodoxy]

Yes, so I hear - and (don't cringe folks!) I really need to read Aquinas' Summa, because I have an Anglican friend who is obsessed with him, and is considering Roman Catholicism, so I need to be armed to the teeth with both Palamas and Aquinas when I discuss these things with him.

[Philothei]

yes you do and doing so without any help from someone who studied that stuff like your priest will be tough believe me. Aristotle is no piece of cake and mix it with theology....makes my head spin. I loved my class on the Triads though Fr. Papademetriou was my prof here some more books that deal with that.


Saint Gregory Palamas
Meyendorff, John, A Study of Gregory Palamas (http://www.amazon.com/Study-Gregory-Palamas-John-Meyendorff/dp/0913836141/sr=1-20/qid=1171039884/ref=sr_1_20/102-7000646-1964935?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Meyendorff, John, Saint Gregory Palamas and Orthodox Spirituality (http://www.amazon.com/St-Gregory-Palamas-Orthodox-Spirituality/dp/0913836117/sr=1-9/qid=1171039749/ref=sr_1_9/102-7000646-1964935?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Papademetriou, George, An Introduction to St. Gregory Palamas (http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Gregory-Palamas-George-Papademetriou/dp/1885652836/sr=1-1/qid=1171039467/ref=sr_1_1/102-7000646-1964935?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Papademetriou, George, Maimondies and Palamas on God (http://www.amazon.com/Maimonides-Palamas-God-George-Papademetriou/dp/0916586685/sr=1-5/qid=1171039467/ref=sr_1_5/102-7000646-1964935?ie=UTF8&s=books),
Papademetriou, George, The human body according to Saint Gregory Palamas (http://www.amazon.com/human-according-Saint-Gregory-Palamas/dp/B000737CHO/sr=1-12/qid=1171039467/ref=sr_1_12/102-7000646-1964935?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Palamas, Gregory, The Triads (http://www.amazon.com/Gregory-Palamas-Classics-Western-Spirituality/dp/0809103281/sr=1-7/qid=1171037119/ref=sr_1_7/102-7000646-1964935?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Palamas, Gregory, Dialogue Between an Orthodox and a Barlaamite (http://www.amazon.com/Gregory-Palamas-Classics-Western-Spirituality/dp/0809103281/sr=1-7/qid=1171037119/ref=sr_1_7/102-7000646-1964935?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Palamas, Gregory, Treatise on the Spiritual Life (http://www.amazon.com/St-Gregory-Palamas-Treatise-Spiritual/dp/1880971054/sr=1-2/qid=1171037119/ref=sr_1_2/102-7000646-1964935?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Palamas, Gregory, Mary the Mother of God: Sermons by Saint Gregory Palamas
(http://www.amazon.com/Mary-Mother-God-Sermons-Gregory/dp/0977498301/sr=1-3/qid=1171037119/ref=sr_1_3/102-7000646-1964935?ie=UTF8&s=books)Palamas, Gregory, The Homilies of Saint Gregory Palamas (http://www.amazon.com/Homilies-Saint-Gregory-Palamas-Set/dp/187899770X/sr=1-4/qid=1171037119/ref=sr_1_4/102-7000646-1964935?ie=UTF8&s=books), (3 Vols.)
Palamas, Gregory, The One Hundred and Fifty Chapters (http://www.pims.ca/publications/catalogue1.html)

[paleodoxy]

A few of those are on my list - his homilies and sermons on Mary, his Dialogue with Barlaam, the Triads. I am currently reading St. Gregory Palamas and Orthodox Spirituality. Very, very good. In a minute, I'll show you what I have on Maximus in my wish list. Maybe you can add anything to that you I might need, or suggest alternatives to ones that are there if you think they aren't sufficient.

[paleodoxy]

ST MAXIMUS THE CONFESSOR:

- On the Cosmic Mystery of Jesus Christ

- Microcosm and Mediator: The Theological Anthropology of St. Maximus the Confessor

- Free Choice in St. Maximus the Confessor

- The Byzantine Christ: Person, Nature, and Will in the Christology of St. Maximus the Confessor

- Union and Distinction in the Thought of St. Maximus the Confessor

- The Body in St. Maximus the Confessor: Wholly Flesh, Wholly Deified

(These last three are from the Oxford Early Christian Studies series.)

[Philothei]

O boy I only have two of those.... Did you hit the jack pot and you are buying allthese??? lol...

I would also add this


http://www.paulistpress.com/images/ui/moreInfo_dddddd.gif (http://www.paulistpress.com/bookView.cgi?isbn=0-8091-0258-7) 21. St. Maximus the Confessor: The Ascetic Life, The Four Centuries on Charity
translated and annotated by Polycarp Sherwood, OSB

The Ascetic Life is a dialogue between a young novice and an old monk on how to achieve the Christian life. The Four Centuries is a collection of aphorisms.ISBN: 0-8091-0258-7
Format: Hardcover

Our Price: 31.95


Mine is the old version and the introduction is by Pelikan ... I guess they annotated it.

I liked the one I have...
Philothei

[paleodoxy]

No, I didn't hit a jackpot. Same as you, only one or two. I'm just listing everything I need/want. :)

Oh, another on my wish list is Romanides' An Outline of Orthodox Patristic Dogmatics. That looks like it could be pretty helpful.

And I just added: John Cassian: The Conferences from the Ancient Christian Writers series.

[Philothei]

oh okay...

You will find Romanides the best....if you like Zizioulas.
My hubby read St. John Cassian we got that one too.
Zizioulas books come out of Holy Cross School of theology check there to see if his latest book are out.

Philothei

[ClementofRome]

in all honesty Clem you think that this guy has done a thorough job of juxtapositioning both fathers...??

And if so how do I know if he has missed crucial elements of any of them. I still believe you have to read first both Theologians seperately to be able to critique it and find out their differences.

God bless,
Philothei

NO! I have not read it. I am sorry if it appeared that I was passing some judgement on the book. I was just suggesting that the title and the price led me to believe that it is probably a dissertation.

Apologies!

Clem, what is your dissertation on (if I may ask)?

Well, the working title is something like this (though it may change for publication): The Jewish Scriptures as the Basis for St. Clement's Argument Against the Corinthians in 1 Clement.

Yes, so I hear - and (don't cringe folks!) I really need to read Aquinas' Summa, because I have an Anglican friend who is obsessed with him, and is considering Roman Catholicism, so I need to be armed to the teeth with both Palamas and Aquinas when I discuss these things with him.

I have recently taken several graduate philosophy courses from Holy Apostles Seminary (RCC in Cromwell, CT) and the foundation of their program is Thomistic Philosophy. VERY interesting stuff to read, if you have the time and stomach for it.

Sorry for my late responses to your comments, but I was away most of the day.

Clem

[Philothei]

Hey Uncle Clem which book would you suggest on Anquinas? Not that I am looking forward but maybe...I guess I should read his works sometime soon...

God bless,
Philothei

[ClementofRome]

Hey Uncle Clem which book would you suggest on Anquinas? Not that I am looking forward but maybe...I guess I should read his works sometime soon...

God bless,
Philothei

Reading all of his works is probably a several year commitment!!!

If you want a very good "smattering", Dr. Ralph McInerny (Notre Dame)....Selected Writings of Thomas Aquinas

He also has a book, though I have not read it, which is a "first effort" at Aquinas...the name of the book escapes me....I will try to find it.

Aquinas' commentaries on Aristotle are very good (if you like that sort of thing.....but not bedtime reading! :) )