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paleodoxy
18th October 2007, 11:44 PM
Which compilations and translations would you suggest?
All4Christ
18th October 2007, 11:55 PM
yes - please do tell :-) I want to read more of the Desert Fathers as well.
Theophorus
19th October 2007, 12:09 AM
St. Dorotheos of Gaza
Evagrius on prayer (Both put out by cistercian press)
St. John Climacus, The Ladder of divine ascent.
The evergetinos
On the mystical life, St. Symeon the new theologian (SVS press)
In the night of the desert of the holy mountain
On the prayer of Jesus by Saint Ignatius Brianchaninov
Saint Silouan, the Athonite by Archimandrite Sophrony
These are what I would call "neptic" writings. They span the ancient past to the present day, and show the constancy of the faith throughou the centuries.
paleodoxy
19th October 2007, 12:25 AM
Excellent!
Philothei
19th October 2007, 12:32 AM
St. Dorotheos of Gaza
Evagrius on prayer (Both put out by cistercian press)
St. John Climacus, The Ladder of divine ascent.
The evergetinos
On the mystical life, St. Symeon the new theologian (SVS press)
In the night of the desert of the holy mountain
On the prayer of Jesus by Saint Ignatius Brianchaninov
Saint Silouan, the Athonite by Archimandrite Sophrony
These are what I would call "neptic" writings. They span the ancient past to the present day, and show the constancy of the faith throughou the centuries.
Be carefull not to get too many of the same the
On the prayer of Jesus by Saint Ignatius Brianchaninov
might be included in the Treasury of Russian Spirituality too....
Philothei
Thekla
19th October 2007, 01:01 AM
portions of In the Night of the Desert ... available (free) online here:
http://www.pelagia.org/htm/b01.en.a_night_in_the_desert_of_the_holy_mountain.00.htm
more of portions of Metr. Hierotheos Vlachos books (free) online here:
http://pelagia.org/htm/index.htm
and some (also essays by Romanides) free online here:
http://romanity.org/cont.htm
Theophorus
19th October 2007, 01:51 AM
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and some (also essays by Romanides) free online here:
[URL]http://romanity.org/cont.htm (http://pelagia.org/htm/index.htm)
:thumbsup:
Theophorus
19th October 2007, 01:54 AM
some excerpts from the Evergetinos here.
http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article8135.asp
Thekla
19th October 2007, 02:03 AM
some excerpts from the Evergetinos here.
http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article8135.asp
These are great !
Thank-you :)
authiodionitist
19th October 2007, 02:17 PM
Desert Fathers rock.
paleodoxy
20th October 2007, 12:42 PM
Thekla,
Got a question for ya. You're familiar with Philip Sherrard. Do you know if his book, Byzantium, is any good?
Thekla
20th October 2007, 01:00 PM
Thekla,
Got a question for ya. You're familiar with Philip Sherrard. Do you know if his book, Byzantium, is any good?
I have it, but have only browsed it (its a TimeLife publication). It would need to be compared with more exhaustive treatments on the subject -- as I don't have these (Ostogorsky, Pelikan and ? whose name I can't remember offhand :) ). So I'll reserve judgement; maybe by now a critical assessment can be found online ...
As for the rest of Sherrard's books (other than history), I think they would need to be read with the help of someone with a deeper knowledge of theology (ex., The Sacred in Life and Art, Human Image, World Image, The R--- of Man and Nature) I liked these books, but anotherwords, they should not be read as a position that necessarily reflects the "mind of the Church".
(BTW, one of the links on this thread includes several online chapters of The Mind of the Church, by Metr. Hierotheos Vlachos; all of his books are excellent).
Philothei
20th October 2007, 01:40 PM
Ostogorsky,
It is spelled Ostrogorsky and the name of the book is "Byzantine State"
Also Ranciman "Byzantine Style and Civilization"
paleodoxy
20th October 2007, 02:09 PM
Are there any comprehensive studies on the four Crusades from an Eastern/Orthodox perspective?
paleodoxy
20th October 2007, 02:14 PM
Is Orthodox Dogmatic Theology by Michael Pomazansky worth the money?
Philothei
20th October 2007, 02:22 PM
never heard of him... I could swear that the most "lazy" theologians are the ethicists and the dogmaticians....We got just very few Orthodox... I guess it is a tough subject to deal with.
the "Byzantine theology" by Meyendorff seems to deal good with basic dogma and explanation.
Philothei
20th October 2007, 02:26 PM
For crusades I am not sure but look up either Pellikan, Ranciman, we used Pellikan publicatons for our church history they were pretty "objective" (early ninties editions....maybe they changed them now) about church history
God bless,
Philothei
ClementofRome
20th October 2007, 02:52 PM
Is Orthodox Dogmatic Theology by Michael Pomazansky worth the money?
I just finished Pomazansky and found it to be an incredibly accessible systematic theology (of sorts). Very readable. I really enjoyed it.
Clem
Philothei
20th October 2007, 04:34 PM
When you come back from your concert Clem.... let me know about Pomazansky. Are those recent books? I would like to know. :)
Philothei
ma2000
21st October 2007, 06:00 AM
some excerpts from the Evergetinos here.
http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article8135.asp
This looks very simmilar to the Egiptian Paterikon.
Another one:
The Spiritual Meadow
http://www.monachos.net/library/John_Moschus,_The_Spiritual_Meadow,_Page_1
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