Curses?!?!

[warriorofprayer]

When I left the Spiritually Abusive church, I had one of the pastors call me up. He used to be a good friend of the family, but when the entire family ended up leaving, we became black sheep to his family.

Anyways, in the phone conversation he said that if I left the covering of "that" church, that my finances, health and relationship would suffer. At that time, I was already living pay cheque to pay cheque, had back problems and a rocky engagement. So to me at the time, they didn't have much impact on me.

Since then, I had been fired from my job (owner attended that church), I have developed other health issues and I am single. I do believe that there is a lot of power in spoken words.

I know with Jesus Christ as my saviour and His blood covering, no curse can touch me. However, how do I go about getting rid of the "crap" that was already in my life, but seems to be getting greater and greater?

I have had recurring dreams where I apologized to this pastor, but I don't know for what? I did nothing but follow the Lord's leading to leave that situation.

If anyone who is reading this gets a word from God while reading this, please share it with me in a PM or if you feel others need to hear it, post it here.

Thank you

[james415]

When I left the Spiritually Abusive church, I had one of the pastors call me up. He used to be a good friend of the family, but when the entire family ended up leaving, we became black sheep to his family.

Anyways, in the phone conversation he said that if I left the covering of "that" church, that my finances, health and relationship would suffer. At that time, I was already living pay cheque to pay cheque, had back problems and a rocky engagement. So to me at the time, they didn't have much impact on me.

Since then, I had been fired from my job (owner attended that church), I have developed other health issues and I am single. I do believe that there is a lot of power in spoken words.

I know with Jesus Christ as my saviour and His blood covering, no curse can touch me. However, how do I go about getting rid of the "crap" that was already in my life, but seems to be getting greater and greater?

I have had recurring dreams where I apologized to this pastor, but I don't know for what? I did nothing but follow the Lord's leading to leave that situation.

If anyone who is reading this gets a word from God while reading this, please share it with me in a PM or if you feel others need to hear it, post it here.

Thank you
Job!

[cyberlizard]

i tell you the truth "an undeserved curse will not come to rest".

What is more, the scripture exhorts that God will bless those who we bless. So in Jesus name I speak delieverance and freedom over spiritual bondage through the minister of that church, and a full release into the life and blessing of the things of God. God says in the book of James, if you draw near to Him in repentance and a Godly life, he wil draw near to you and make you shine like a beacon.

In closing though, do a google search on 'heavy shepherding' which sounds like this church is teaching.

There is only power in words to the extent we choose to believe it... anything more is really witchcraft.

[MichaelTheeArchAngel]

When I left the Spiritually Abusive church, I had one of the pastors call me up. He used to be a good friend of the family, but when the entire family ended up leaving, we became black sheep to his family.

Anyways, in the phone conversation he said that if I left the covering of "that" church, that my finances, health and relationship would suffer. At that time, I was already living pay cheque to pay cheque, had back problems and a rocky engagement. So to me at the time, they didn't have much impact on me.

Since then, I had been fired from my job (owner attended that church), I have developed other health issues and I am single. I do believe that there is a lot of power in spoken words.

I know with Jesus Christ as my saviour and His blood covering, no curse can touch me. However, how do I go about getting rid of the "crap" that was already in my life, but seems to be getting greater and greater?

I have had recurring dreams where I apologized to this pastor, but I don't know for what? I did nothing but follow the Lord's leading to leave that situation.

If anyone who is reading this gets a word from God while reading this, please share it with me in a PM or if you feel others need to hear it, post it here.

Thank you I don't know, but some people think that a church is abusive if they dont allow new age thinking. Your asking for advise without stating the nature of the problem.

[New_Wineskin]

When I left the Spiritually Abusive church, I had one of the pastors call me up. He used to be a good friend of the family, but when the entire family ended up leaving, we became black sheep to his family.

Anyways, in the phone conversation he said that if I left the covering of "that" church, that my finances, health and relationship would suffer. At that time, I was already living pay cheque to pay cheque, had back problems and a rocky engagement. So to me at the time, they didn't have much impact on me.

Since then, I had been fired from my job (owner attended that church), I have developed other health issues and I am single. I do believe that there is a lot of power in spoken words.

I know with Jesus Christ as my saviour and His blood covering, no curse can touch me. However, how do I go about getting rid of the "crap" that was already in my life, but seems to be getting greater and greater?

I have had recurring dreams where I apologized to this pastor, but I don't know for what? I did nothing but follow the Lord's leading to leave that situation.

If anyone who is reading this gets a word from God while reading this, please share it with me in a PM or if you feel others need to hear it, post it here.

Thank you

Don't give the bum credit for being *that* important . His cursing you only shows that he is a control freek and wants power for himself . He is not a servant as a chritian leader should be . My guess is that the "tithe" was a part of his teaching .

This is a typical tactic of people who want to keep people in fear of leaving so that they can do whatever they want . That's what happens when you place a leader on a different level than yourself . You are placing them as a mediator between yourself and the Lord .

Before going to sleep , you may consider simply thinking of the Lord and not that person . Go to bed in peace .


Be at peace . You are not alone .

[Zecryphon]

When I left the Spiritually Abusive church, I had one of the pastors call me up. He used to be a good friend of the family, but when the entire family ended up leaving, we became black sheep to his family.

Anyways, in the phone conversation he said that if I left the covering of "that" church, that my finances, health and relationship would suffer. At that time, I was already living pay cheque to pay cheque, had back problems and a rocky engagement. So to me at the time, they didn't have much impact on me.

Since then, I had been fired from my job (owner attended that church), I have developed other health issues and I am single. I do believe that there is a lot of power in spoken words.

I know with Jesus Christ as my saviour and His blood covering, no curse can touch me. However, how do I go about getting rid of the "crap" that was already in my life, but seems to be getting greater and greater?

I have had recurring dreams where I apologized to this pastor, but I don't know for what? I did nothing but follow the Lord's leading to leave that situation.

If anyone who is reading this gets a word from God while reading this, please share it with me in a PM or if you feel others need to hear it, post it here.

Thank you
"When I left the Spiritually Abusive church, I had one of the pastors call me up. He used to be a good friend of the family, but when the entire family ended up leaving, we became black sheep to his family."

This is what typically happens anytime someone leaves a church. Church friends are just that, your friends at church. The second you stop going, they stop calling and caring. It's interesting at my church, if I miss a week or two, they start calling, it's really refreshing and has restored my faith in my brothers and sisters in Christ.

"Anyways, in the phone conversation he said that if I left the covering of "that" church, that my finances, health and relationship would suffer."

Is this by any chance a Charismatic or Word-Faith church?

"At that time, I was already living pay cheque to pay cheque, had back problems and a rocky engagement. So to me at the time, they didn't have much impact on me."

The words themselves shouldn't. They are spoken out of fear. This fear comes from a few places. One it means that the tithes to the church will be less, they won't get as much money as they're used to. You wanna hurt the clergy? Hit the finances! Gets 'em every time. Also, it means that the membership numbers have dropped instead of increasing. Can't have that. It's all about the church growth these days. This is what I guarantee is in your pastor's mind right about now or when you decided to leave his church. "You're really standing in the way of MY church expansion and that Starbucks in the lobby! How dare you! How dare you do the right thing and follow God instead of contributing to MY financial portfolio!" LOL See how ridiculous this sounds?

"Since then, I had been fired from my job (owner attended that church), I have developed other health issues and I am single. I do believe that there is a lot of power in spoken words."

Yeah, they're shunning you. Anyone who has had any contact with you in any way has clearly been ordered to sever all ties with you, as you are clearly not of God (because you disagree with that church's teachings) and are of the devil. Righteousness has nothing in common with darkness. I imagine that scripture has been paraded around the church anytime your name came up.

"I know with Jesus Christ as my saviour and His blood covering, no curse can touch me. However, how do I go about getting rid of the "crap" that was already in my life, but seems to be getting greater and greater?"

It'll most likely get worse before it gets better. But what you're going through now is a purging process. You're getting all the toxins of false doctrine and false love out of your life. It'll hurt, but in the end you will become a stronger Christian for it. You left, I believe because you had a revelation from the Holy Spirit. I too, left my last church when the "me-ology" started to physically make me ill. I was told I had receieved a promotion from the Holy Spirit and that He was leading me to the church I needed to be a part of, a church that would help me grow closer to Christ and strengthen my faith. That's exactly what happened.

"I have had recurring dreams where I apologized to this pastor, but I don't know for what? I did nothing but follow the Lord's leading to leave that situation.

If anyone who is reading this gets a word from God while reading this, please share it with me in a PM or if you feel others need to hear it, post it here."

Stay in constant prayer with Jesus during this trial. You are receiving crucial training right now, although it doesn't seem like it. This experience will help you to better serve the Lord in the future. Perhaps you can help someone else out who is in a similar situation with the lessons you've learned from this. God does have the situation in hand. Trust Him fully and completely to see you through this and you will come through this in flying colors.

[jive4005]

Curses won't work if you truly in God's family. Satan has no power over Christians... none, except that which we allow him (our thoughts and what we do with them!). I'll pray on this before I say more.

His,
Rev J

[indagroove]

Curses won't work if you truly in God's family. Satan has no power over Christians... none, except that which we allow him (our thoughts and what we do with them!). I'll pray on this before I say more.

His,
Rev J

:thumbsup: You have the authority and power through the blood of Jesus. You might have left the Church building of sticks and stones, but you are in the church of Christ. Through the Holy Spirit, demand that Satan stop, and leave you now. Through your faith in Him, you can do it !

[stone]

When I left the Spiritually Abusive church, I had one of the pastors call me up. He used to be a good friend of the family, but when the entire family ended up leaving, we became black sheep to his family.

Anyways, in the phone conversation he said that if I left the covering of "that" church, that my finances, health and relationship would suffer. At that time, I was already living pay cheque to pay cheque, had back problems and a rocky engagement. So to me at the time, they didn't have much impact on me.

Since then, I had been fired from my job (owner attended that church), I have developed other health issues and I am single. I do believe that there is a lot of power in spoken words.

I know with Jesus Christ as my saviour and His blood covering, no curse can touch me. However, how do I go about getting rid of the "crap" that was already in my life, but seems to be getting greater and greater?

I have had recurring dreams where I apologized to this pastor, but I don't know for what? I did nothing but follow the Lord's leading to leave that situation.

If anyone who is reading this gets a word from God while reading this, please share it with me in a PM or if you feel others need to hear it, post it here.

Thank you


Pray for what you want. ;)

[ChinaRoses]

My husband & I left a spiritually abusive church. We were told the same thing. We were tithing at the time & the Lord was blessing us in a lot of ways. The mistake we made after we left was to church hop looking for the right church. We didn't find it, & we stopped going. We also backslid for a very long time. My husband got sick & couldn't work, our finances dwindled to nothing and just recently we're trying to pull ourselves out with the Lord's help. We're getting back in a good, non-abusive church. If you have the Lord in your life, no curses can touch you. Your pastor seems like a major controller just like ours was. We still talk to him from time to time & respect him for his beliefs, but we're past that now.

[JolieHeart]

Stay strong in the Lord hun, and know that this online family keeps you in our prayers.

[JHM]

It would seem that your "Church" was more interested in money than in God. For that too there is a price.

The Church of Laodicea

Covetous preachers, to whom the sheep turn;
All would be teachers, none willing to learn;
Yet countless the lambs, that they’ve led astray;
By failing to teach, their flocks how to pray.
Send us your money, the gist of their words;
Their bodies shall lie, as food for the birds;
Worthless beseechers, too blind to discern;
The fate of such creatures, in hailfire to burn.

You have my best wishes. Feel free to PM me. From Toronto.

[warriorofprayer]

"Anyways, in the phone conversation he said that if I left the covering of "that" church, that my finances, health and relationship would suffer."

Is this by any chance a Charismatic or Word-Faith church?



It was a non-denominational Charismatic Church. I guess they are still that, they did however just become part of the Antioch Church, whatever that means.

[MoNiCa4316]

"Anyways, in the phone conversation he said that if I left the covering of "that" church, that my finances, health and relationship would suffer."

Don't believe them...membership at a church does not guarantee more blessings, and leaving it does not change who you are to God. Neither is He punishing you, because suffering is not a punishment. Sometimes He uses it to help us grow in faith, but it doesn't last, and someday it will be gone forever. I will pray for you :) I hope your situation improves! Remember that God is sovereign and no one has the right or ability to curse you... I also think that what that pastor said was not very loving, but don't let it bother you, forgive him and move on with your life. Yes there is power in words, but God is more powerful, and I pray that He would help you during this time. Stay strong in the Lord and remember who you are in Him.

God bless you!! :)

monica

[Mister_Al]

Just a few things for you to think about:

1) You were not covered by that church, you are covered by Jesus.

2) You didn't leave the church, you are the Church.

3) The Lord takes people out of churches all the time and they aren't cursed.

4) You should pray for this Pastor and put the situation in God's hands.

5) God will let circumstances bear down on you sometimes to show you that you can trust Him to fix everything.