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eyemyname
19th September 2007, 11:36 PM
In Matthew ch21 42-43 : (Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.)
These words was saying by Jesus to the Jewish for what they do with( prophets and the prophases) .
The scripture shows … A news from Jesus to Jewish that god will replace them … with a new nation … this nation will carry the prophecy … and do according to this prophecy
(Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.)
Also Jesus tell them … about this stone will become in the head of the corner … so he says (The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner)
And Jesus complete saying what: (And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.)
And using the word ( broken ) , ( grind ) it means that god will give this nation the power and this nation will go into lot of wars .
But We can not teak these meaning to Jesus and his nation because of tow things :
1- Jesus himself Israeli .
2- Jesus said (and it is marvellous in our eyes?) this means he is talking about someone else.
So we come to 3 questions :
Who is this man Jesus talked about ?
Why Jesus comparethis man like ( the stone in the head of corner ) ?
Which nation god will give her ( the kingdom of god ) ?
end of part # 1#
MichaelTheeArchAngel
20th September 2007, 01:29 PM
In Matthew ch21 42-43 : (Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.)
These words was saying by Jesus to the Jewish for what they do with( prophets and the prophases) .
The scripture shows … A news from Jesus to Jewish that god will replace them … with a new nation … this nation will carry the prophecy … and do according to this prophecy
(Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.)
Also Jesus tell them … about this stone will become in the head of the corner … so he says (The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner)
And Jesus complete saying what: (And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.)
And using the word ( broken ) , ( grind ) it means that god will give this nation the power and this nation will go into lot of wars .
But We can not teak these meaning to Jesus and his nation because of tow things :
1- Jesus himself Israeli .
2- Jesus said (and it is marvellous in our eyes?) this means he is talking about someone else.
So we come to 3 questions :
Who is this man Jesus talked about ?
Why Jesus comparethis man like ( the stone in the head of corner ) ?
Which nation god will give her ( the kingdom of god ) ?
end of part # 1# Jesus is talking about the 7 churches and the 7 angels (messengers) are the 7 stars. And 7 lamps are the 7 churches. See Rev 1:19-20. The lamb with 7 eyes is Jesus seeing through the eyes of the 7. see also Zec 3:8. Listen, O high priest of Yahshua... men symbolic of things to come. Joshua=Yahshua. There is translations and or interpretations of our bibles which causes babel: confussion among Christians. Jesus is also The Angel of the Lord, he was a Morning Star who became The Bright Morning Star. I hope this was helpful for you and others.
MichaelTheeArchAngel
21st September 2007, 05:17 AM
Perhaps your post is to deep for most people eyemyname. Anyway: BUMP.
amadeus2
21st September 2007, 08:46 AM
Jesus, Himself, is the Rock or the Chief Cornerstone.
"Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if thou hast understanding.
Who determined the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it?Whereupon were the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner-stone thereof," Job 38:4-6
The corner stone is the basis for the foundation of the God's Kingdom. We are to fall on Him to be broken. That is, we are to become contrite and humble surrendering to Him completely. God's kingdom is the 'nation' receiving God's fruits and producing God's fruits. I believe it refers to the group of people who are to be overcomers as Jesus was and is an overcomer.
"And he that overcometh, and he that keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give authority over the nations:" Rev 2:26
eyemyname
21st September 2007, 06:55 PM
Until I end the parts you will discover
Who is this man ? … and where is this nation ?
I was not going to add any comments or an explain for the article until I finish from writing the whole vision
But since my friends MichaelTheeArchAngel and adameus2 added there comments I will answer theme
First :
thank you so much for your interaction
Second :
Sorry … My friends your answers are far away from these questions .
Yahshua is not the man because in the bible Moses said :
(And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. ) 18deut 17-19
The scriptures described as you see announcement from god to Moses about prophet god will send him (from among their brethren) and this prophet will be like Moses (like unto thee )
And the scriptures said also: ( And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.) that means god will punish any one not following this prophet .
But what did the Jewish and the Christians saying about this announcement ?
The Jewish said this is about Yahshua …. And the Christians said it about Jesus …. And I think they both wrong … you will ask why they are wrong ?
Because this announcement had 2 conditions :
First : this prophet from among the brother of Israel . (a Prophet from among their brethren )
second: this prophet like Moses .( like unto thee )
And those 2 conditions never coincided on Yahshua or Jesus because
Yahshua and Jesus both Israeli … and they are not from among the brother of Israel . and if they were one of them god will said : (.I will raise them up prophet from them )
And the second condition will be disable on Jesus and Yahshua because :
Yahshua was the kid of Moses .. he did not had any new prophecy .. god did not give him a book
Also Jesus he did not came with new prophecy he was on Moses doctrines .
And the holy bible there is no prophet in Israeli like Moses
(And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.And the children of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days: so the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended.And Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom; for Moses had laid his hands upon him: and the children of Israel hearkened unto him, and did as the LORD commanded Moses.And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,In all the signs and the wonders, which the LORD sent him to do in the land of Egypt to Pharaoh, and to all his servants, and to all his land,) 34deut 7-11
MichaelTheeArchAngel
22nd September 2007, 08:32 AM
Until I end the parts you will discover
Who is this man ? … and where is this nation ?
I was not going to add any comments or an explain for the article until I finish from writing the whole vision
But since my friends MichaelTheeArchAngel and adameus2 added there comments I will answer theme
First :
thank you so much for your interaction
Second :
Sorry … My friends your answers are far away from these questions .
Yahshua is not the man because in the bible Moses said :
(And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. ) 18deut 17-19
The scriptures described as you see announcement from god to Moses about prophet god will send him (from among their brethren) and this prophet will be like Moses (like unto thee )
And the scriptures said also: ( And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.) that means god will punish any one not following this prophet .
But what did the Jewish and the Christians saying about this announcement ?
The Jewish said this is about Yahshua …. And the Christians said it about Jesus …. And I think they both wrong … you will ask why they are wrong ?
Because this announcement had 2 conditions :
First : this prophet from among the brother of Israel . (a Prophet from among their brethren )
second: this prophet like Moses .( like unto thee )
And those 2 conditions never coincided on Yahshua or Jesus because
Yahshua and Jesus both Israeli … and they are not from among the brother of Israel . and if they were one of them god will said : (.I will raise them up prophet from them )
And the second condition will be disable on Jesus and Yahshua because :
Yahshua was the kid of Moses .. he did not had any new prophecy .. god did not give him a book
Also Jesus he did not came with new prophecy he was on Moses doctrines .
And the holy bible there is no prophet in Israeli like Moses
(And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.And the children of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days: so the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended.And Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom; for Moses had laid his hands upon him: and the children of Israel hearkened unto him, and did as the LORD commanded Moses.And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,In all the signs and the wonders, which the LORD sent him to do in the land of Egypt to Pharaoh, and to all his servants, and to all his land,) 34deut 7-11 Jesus (Yahshua) did know God face to face, he was also born in the flesh among his brother Israelites the Jews, he also fulfilled prophecy and gave prophecy. Im still interrested in what your have to say, and your thoughts on the matter. Understanding prophecy is no easy task, it can take many years of hard studying. Prophecy is my hobby, I find it challenging.
MichaelTheeArchAngel
22nd September 2007, 08:27 PM
I have been waiting to see what it is that you have to say.
stone
3rd October 2007, 03:03 PM
Looks like this is going down the road of teaching Islam.
Once again i must ask that you consider this to be relocated to the non-christian forums?
Jim47
3rd October 2007, 05:09 PM
Looks like this is going down the road of teaching Islam.
Once again i must ask that you consider this to be relocated to the non-christian forums?
No, we are not going to move it. We are going to deal with it in the reports. Its quite simply against the rules.
Closing thread for staff review.
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