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seajoy

16th October 2007, 10:10 AM

Seajoy,
I am so sorry that I have not been around lately. My internet service forced me to take my own haitus, it's been sporadic at best, but now seems to be on much more than off.

I am sorry that you have had such a rough time of it. I pray that they have gotten your meds straightened out now.

You know you are always in my prayers. I am praying that you feel stronger soon.
Thanks so much Quilty. :hug:
Today has been good so far. I take it one moment at a time.
It seems they have gotten my meds straightened out. The new one they had tried for my fibro and depression, had very bad side effects for me. I had been on it since January, and kept hoping to feel better, but they kept increasing it, and I just kept getting worse.

I praise the Lord for all the days I do well, and today I'm doing the best I have in weeks. :amen:

Thanks so much for everyone's prayers. They are needed and appreciated grately.

ctay

16th October 2007, 01:24 PM

Thanks so much Quilty. :hug:
Today has been good so far. I take it one moment at a time.
It seems they have gotten my meds straightened out. The new one they had tried for my fibro and depression, had very bad side effects for me. I had been on it since January, and kept hoping to feel better, but they kept increasing it, and I just kept getting worse.

I praise the Lord for all the days I do well, and today I'm doing the best I have in weeks. :amen:

Thanks so much for everyone's prayers. They are needed and appreciated grately.
God bless you and hope God lifts you up.

seajoy

16th October 2007, 04:38 PM

God bless you and hope God lifts you up.
thanks ctay. :)

Jim47

16th October 2007, 05:10 PM

thanks ctay. :)

Nice to see you posting here again. :)

LilLamb219

16th October 2007, 05:33 PM

Nice to see you posting here again. :)

It's great having her back. It doesn't feel like home here without Seajoy in her kitchen! :tutu:

Tofferer

16th October 2007, 08:59 PM

It's great having her back. It doesn't feel like home here without Seajoy in her kitchen! :tutu:
I just hope she has some coffee brewing.....

seajoy

16th October 2007, 09:07 PM

It's great having her back. It doesn't feel like home here without Seajoy in her kitchen! :tutu:
Oh goodness, you guys.....really :blush: You make me tear up with all the nice talk. :cry: :)
God uses you folks, more than you will ever know.

seajoy

16th October 2007, 09:09 PM

I just hope she has some coffee brewing.....
Of course...it's always on. But with 2 anti-anxiety meds, I had better make it decafe for tonight. :eek:

PreachersWife2004

16th October 2007, 10:28 PM

In that case, I really LIKE being used!!

Tofferer

17th October 2007, 01:01 AM

Maybe I should ask Hope to make some banana bread muffins?

ctay

17th October 2007, 07:22 AM

I like being used in the right way

WildStrawberry

17th October 2007, 04:51 PM

SeaJoy, I was thinking of you last night as I started reading the psalms. Psalm 6 is one you should read if you haven't recently.

Kae

seajoy

17th October 2007, 05:02 PM

SeaJoy, I was thinking of you last night as I started reading the psalms. Psalm 6 is one you should read if you haven't recently.

Kae
Thank you, I will read it tonight. You are so kind to think of me.

KimLCMS

17th October 2007, 06:15 PM

Anna had a very good day today Yeah!!! So I'm spreading reps and blessings!

mrshoperose

17th October 2007, 06:29 PM

Anna had a very good day today Yeah!!! So I'm spreading reps and blessings!
Is Anna your daughter?

QuiltAngel

17th October 2007, 10:10 PM

Yeah, Seajoy is back!
and
Anna had a good day today! Things are looking good around here, aren't they!?!

Studeclunker

17th October 2007, 10:45 PM

So very glad to see you back, sis. You're always in my prayers and I've been asking around to a few circles for assistance in that too. Haven't told them much other than you're struggling and need uplifting.

God bless and keep you, Luv.

The kettle's singing and I've got a box of sleepy time tea. Anyone for a wee cuppa? I'll be mother!;)

KimLCMS

17th October 2007, 11:12 PM

Is Anna your daughter?
Yeah, she's my oldest (she's 6).

seajoy

18th October 2007, 01:35 AM

I am very much undeserved of all these nice welcome backs I've been getting. But I thank you all very much.

God gives me way more than I deserve in my dear friends here.

seajoy

18th October 2007, 01:36 AM

Yeah, she's my oldest (she's 6).
So happy that Anna had a good day. May they continue.

dinkime

18th October 2007, 07:03 AM

i love seeing all these familiar faces, and hearing that anna had a good day! each one is a blessing :)

ctay

18th October 2007, 07:14 AM

I am very much undeserved of all these nice welcome backs I've been getting. But I thank you all very much.

God gives me way more than I deserve in my dear friends here.
You deserve a lot and don't let yourself think you don't!!! God bless you

LilLamb219

18th October 2007, 08:46 AM

Hey all! Happy Thursday. Well, I'm at least hoping it will be a happy one ;) It's rainy here.

I can't believe Halloween is approaching so fast!

Zecryphon

18th October 2007, 09:13 AM

Hey all! Happy Thursday. Well, I'm at least hoping it will be a happy one ;) It's rainy here.

I can't believe Halloween is approaching so fast!
You're a Lutheran! It's Reformation Day for you missy! LOL That reminds me, I've gotta get my Reformation Day t-shirt from Old Lutheran.

mrshoperose

18th October 2007, 11:08 AM

My son understands that we don't celebrate Halloween, but I can't explain it to his cousin in a way that he will understand. Any suggestions?

KimLCMS

18th October 2007, 11:21 AM

i love seeing all these familiar faces, and hearing that anna had a good day! each one is a blessing :)
Amen to that!

Zecryphon

18th October 2007, 11:32 AM

My son understands that we don't celebrate Halloween, but I can't explain it to his cousin in a way that he will understand. Any suggestions?
How old is the cousin in question?

porterross

18th October 2007, 11:34 AM

You're a Lutheran! It's Reformation Day for you missy! LOL That reminds me, I've gotta get my Reformation Day t-shirt from Old Lutheran.
Maybe I'll dress as a monk for Halloween! My daughter's been bugging me to get a costume for the school carnival. ;)

seajoy

18th October 2007, 11:41 AM

SeaJoy, I was thinking of you last night as I started reading the psalms. Psalm 6 is one you should read if you haven't recently.

Kae
I read Psalm 6 last night, as you mentioned for me. It was a real comfort. Thank you.

filosofer

18th October 2007, 01:01 PM

Maybe I'll dress as a monk for Halloween! My daughter's been bugging me to get a costume for the school carnival. ;)

Will DaRev's outfit work for you? ;) :D

porterross

18th October 2007, 01:37 PM

Will DaRev's outfit work for you? ;) :D

:o If I were to ever get into his cassock, it had better be after we've received a blessing. :sorry:

Zecryphon

18th October 2007, 02:01 PM

Maybe I'll dress as a monk for Halloween! My daughter's been bugging me to get a costume for the school carnival. ;)
I was thinking of going as the Pope. But we didn't prepare in time with the right costume, so maybe I'll just be the forgiven sinner that I am. :)

seajoy

18th October 2007, 02:05 PM

so maybe I'll just be the forgiven sinner that I am. :)
That's the best anyone can hope to go as.:)

mrshoperose

18th October 2007, 02:12 PM

My son is five, and his cousin is six.

Zecryphon

18th October 2007, 03:33 PM

My son is five, and his cousin is six.
You could always try saying "It goes against our religious beliefs." If that doesn't work, tell the little heathen to stop shoving his pagan religious festivals down your throat. Ya know, with the same attitude the non-believers hit us with when we share what we believe with them. LOL

mrshoperose

18th October 2007, 04:06 PM

You could always try saying "It goes against our religious beliefs." If that doesn't work, tell the little heathen to stop shoving his pagan religious festivals down your throat. Ya know, with the same attitude the non-believers hit us with when we share what we believe with them. LOL
LOL, very funny. I'm hoping my sister will be able to take him for that night, as he is constantly talking about how much candy he will get this year, and if he's with us, he won't get any.

seajoy

18th October 2007, 04:56 PM

WildStrawberry

18th October 2007, 05:23 PM

I read Psalm 6 last night, as you mentioned for me. It was a real comfort. Thank you.

Oh good! When I was reading it, I kept thinking, "oh I have to tell Angie". Then I reread it and got some more peace out of it (been having a hard time but it's fading now) and turned off the light to sleep and got poked "don't forget to tell Angie tomorrow!"

*G*

Kae

seajoy

18th October 2007, 05:41 PM

Oh good! When I was reading it, I kept thinking, "oh I have to tell Angie". Then I reread it and got some more peace out of it (been having a hard time but it's fading now) and turned off the light to sleep and got poked "don't forget to tell Angie tomorrow!"

*G*

Kae
You are so sweet. :hug:

And may I suggest Psalm 46....I have been reading that one daily, for the past couple of days. It too is a wonderful source of comfort. There are many times that I wrongly take on all my problems as though I can fix the things that make me sad, and to my dispair, "forget" to leave all things in the Almighy One's hands.

You have been a blessing to me, Kae. :)

Studeclunker

18th October 2007, 06:40 PM

:o If I were to ever get into his cassock, it had better be after we've received a blessing. :sorry:

LOL!:D PR you are a pip! Are you two back on good terms now?

Zee, you could always wear the Papal regalia with just a few accessories. Sorta like a tail, horns peeking out from under the Miter, and of course, the obligatory pitch-fork. Well... maybe not. LOL it was just a thought...

I had no problems with Halloween till the excesses began. The poisoned and booby-trapped candy, the satanic rituals, etc... My youngest and I spent an hour or two every year discussing and remembering those who had passed on. His mother, grandmother and father, aunts, uncles, etc... After all, the 31st is all Hallows eve. The celebration of our beloved departed and brothers and sisters in Christ. It's the eve of All Saints Day. Hence the connection with the pagan Druid holiday.

There are some redeeming qualities to this holiday. It's not completely pagan. And Zee, throwing the same insults back at the unsaved (even though they deserve it and it just might feel pretty darn good) isn't a good idea. We are to live in this world. This is where the Amish have erred. They have separated themselves from the world and hidden away in their enclaves. I think a Christian can participate in the Halloween celebration. We just need to keep an eye on our focus and try to turn this celebration back to it's Christian direction.

I remember a reformed church in Chino and another in Garden Grove (So. Cal.) that had a harvest festival the 31st and a church picnic on the 1st. Both were very successful and quite popular with the community at large. The Garden Grove church attributed a considerable amount of their growth from the festival/picnic format. It was a way to reach out to the unsaved on their own terms in a fun and unthreatening or intimidating way.

WildStrawberry

18th October 2007, 07:01 PM

You are so sweet. :hug:

And may I suggest Psalm 46....I have been reading that one daily, for the past couple of days. It too is a wonderful source of comfort. There are many times that I wrongly take on all my problems as though I can fix the things that make me sad, and to my dispair, "forget" to leave all things in the Almighy One's hands.

You have been a blessing to me, Kae. :)

Oh yes! I adore that psalm. I also pray psalm 51...used to be daily but I've fallen by the wayside. :sigh:

You're a blessing too, dear one! Please always remember that!!! We LOVE you!

Kae

DaRev

18th October 2007, 07:20 PM

Maybe I'll dress as a monk for Halloween! My daughter's been bugging me to get a costume for the school carnival. ;)

How 'bout dressing as Katie Luther? ;)

Zecryphon

18th October 2007, 08:02 PM

LOL!:D PR you are a pip! Are you two back on good terms now?

Zee, you could always wear the Papal regalia with just a few accessories. Sorta like a tail, horns peeking out from under the Miter, and of course, the obligatory pitch-fork. Well... maybe not. LOL it was just a thought...

I had no problems with Halloween till the excesses began. The poisoned and booby-trapped candy, the satanic rituals, etc... My youngest and I spent an hour or two every year discussing and remembering those who had passed on. His mother, grandmother and father, aunts, uncles, etc... After all, the 31st is all Hallows eve. The celebration of our beloved departed and brothers and sisters in Christ. It's the eve of All Saints Day. Hence the connection with the pagan Druid holiday.

There are some redeeming qualities to this holiday. It's not completely pagan. And Zee, throwing the same insults back at the unsaved (even though they deserve it and it just might feel pretty darn good) isn't a good idea. We are to live in this world. This is where the Amish have erred. They have separated themselves from the world and hidden away in their enclaves. I think a Christian can participate in the Halloween celebration. We just need to keep an eye on our focus and try to turn this celebration back to it's Christian direction.

I remember a reformed church in Chino and another in Garden Grove (So. Cal.) that had a harvest festival the 31st and a church picnic on the 1st. Both were very successful and quite popular with the community at large. The Garden Grove church attributed a considerable amount of their growth from the festival/picnic format. It was a way to reach out to the unsaved on their own terms in a fun and unthreatening or intimidating way.
"Zee, you could always wear the Papal regalia with just a few accessories. Sorta like a tail, horns peeking out from under the Miter, and of course, the obligatory pitch-fork. Well... maybe not. LOL it was just a thought..."

Well actually the original idea was this. I was going to be Pope Benedict and let's face it that's one scary lookin' dude. Kinda reminds me of Count Dracula. I envision him sweeping down on the villages at night looking for young children. So, since I already have a pair of dental acrylic fangs, I thought I could be the Pope as I see him, a blood-sucking vampire. LOL The reason I didn't initially offer this info is because I thought someone might come thru the forum and report me for making fun of the count, er, I mean the pope.

"There are some redeeming qualities to this holiday. It's not completely pagan. And Zee, throwing the same insults back at the unsaved (even though they deserve it and it just might feel pretty darn good) isn't a good idea. We are to live in this world. This is where the Amish have erred. They have separated themselves from the world and hidden away in their enclaves. I think a Christian can participate in the Halloween celebration. We just need to keep an eye on our focus and try to turn this celebration back to it's Christian direction."

You do realize that my comment was an attempt at humour as indicated by the LOL at the end, right?

porterross

18th October 2007, 09:55 PM

How 'bout dressing as Katie Luther? ;)

Then I'd have to drag six little Luthers with me. No thanks!

I'll stick with androgony.

Well actually the original idea was this. I was going to be Pope Benedict and let's face it that's one scary lookin' dude. Kinda reminds me of Count Dracula. I envision him sweeping down on the villages at night looking for young children. So, since I already have a pair of dental acrylic fangs, I thought I could be the Pope as I see him, a blood-sucking vampire. LOL The reason I didn't initially offer this info is because I thought someone might come thru the forum and report me for making fun of the count, er, I mean the pope.

Oh my gosh! That's it! I knew there was something eerily familiar about his pointed features.

Eeeekkk...count Benny strikes again. ^_^

mrshoperose

18th October 2007, 10:16 PM

Chris wants to get the smallest male dog possible, neuter him, and call him "Bishop"!

:D

Tofferer

18th October 2007, 10:17 PM

Amen!

WildStrawberry

19th October 2007, 01:11 AM

Well actually the original idea was this. I was going to be Pope Benedict and let's face it that's one scary lookin' dude. Kinda reminds me of Count Dracula. I envision him sweeping down on the villages at night looking for young children. So, since I already have a pair of dental acrylic fangs, I thought I could be the Pope as I see him, a blood-sucking vampire. LOL The reason I didn't initially offer this info is because I thought someone might come thru the forum and report me for making fun of the count, er, I mean the pope.[/FONT]

Actually, if you look at pictures of Papa Ratzi (http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/pope_350.jpg) (say it out loud) and pictures of Emperor Palpatine (http://www.blueharvest.net/images/closeups/emperor.jpg)...

I think you see where this is going. ;)

Kae

RadMan

19th October 2007, 08:28 AM

I was thinking of going as the Pope. But we didn't prepare in time with the right costume, so maybe I'll just be the forgiven sinner that I am. :) As the pope you could wear a sign that says "papal bull" :D ..................or not :)

RadMan

19th October 2007, 08:32 AM

Then I'd have to drag six little Luthers with me. No thanks!

I'll stick with androgony.
Androgony????? Your going neutered????? :scratch::P

mrshoperose

19th October 2007, 11:33 AM

Androgony????? Your going neutered????? :scratch::P
What is androgony?

mrshoperose

19th October 2007, 11:34 AM

Actually, if you look at pictures of Papa Ratzi (http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/pope_350.jpg) (say it out loud) and pictures of Emperor Palpatine (http://www.blueharvest.net/images/closeups/emperor.jpg)...

I think you see where this is going. ;)

Kae
LOL, actually I don't see a lot in common with the two. (physically)

porterross

19th October 2007, 12:20 PM

Actually, if you look at pictures of Papa Ratzi (http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/pope_350.jpg) (say it out loud) and pictures of Emperor Palpatine (http://www.blueharvest.net/images/closeups/emperor.jpg)...

I think you see where this is going. ;)

Kae

That's hilarious, Kae. Papa Ratzi...Fr. Ratzen... http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k101/pocolocogal/lol-045.gif

But NO ONE has the power the emperor possessed, thanks to silly ol' Anakin. :D

LilLamb219

19th October 2007, 12:30 PM

The pope kind of looks like my dad and his great-grandfather. Eerie.

Zecryphon

19th October 2007, 12:42 PM

That's hilarious, Kae. Papa Ratzi...Fr. Ratzen... http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k101/pocolocogal/lol-045.gif

But NO ONE has the power the emperor possessed, thanks to silly ol' Anakin. :D
Ah, but even the emperor didn't have the power he claimed to possess. Remember he told Anakin that if they worked together they would be able to discover the secret to cheating death itself. Anakin assumed that they would be able to do this while Padme was alive and before she gave birth as his vision revealed that she would die during child birth. Unfortunately, thanks to him and that little force choke on Mustafar, and betrayal of the Jedi thing, his vision did come to pass.

filosofer

19th October 2007, 01:09 PM

The pope kind of looks like my dad and his great-grandfather. Eerie.

You skipped a generation. Does that mean that the pope is your grandfather? ;) :D

filo

Blessed to be a blessing
Forgiven to be forgiving

porterross

19th October 2007, 01:14 PM

You skipped a generation. Does that mean that the pope is your grandfather? ;) :D

filo

Blessed to be a blessing
Forgiven to be forgiving

Eeewww

mrshoperose

19th October 2007, 01:50 PM

LOL, awww filo, you are something else! ;)

LilLamb219

20th October 2007, 09:08 AM

Heh, no. My grandfather had a different sort of look for himself.

You skipped a generation. Does that mean that the pope is your grandfather? ;) :D

filo

Blessed to be a blessing
Forgiven to be forgiving

Confess

20th October 2007, 11:46 AM

What a week!!!

I almost feel sick to my stomach for lack of sleep!!!!

CALGONE!!! TAKE ME AWAY!!!!

DaRev

20th October 2007, 01:28 PM

Greetings to all from the great state of Texas! :wave: :clap:

Tofferer

20th October 2007, 02:26 PM

Greetings to all from the great state of Texas! :wave: :clap:
My aunt lives in your neck of the woods.

filosofer

20th October 2007, 02:40 PM

Greetings to all from the great state of Texas! :wave: :clap:

Howdy, to you, and whats-her-name. :D

Enjoy your time.

filo

Blessed to be a blessing
Forgiven to be forgiving

mrshoperose

20th October 2007, 02:51 PM

Howdy, to you, and whats-her-name. :D

Enjoy your time.

filo

Blessed to be a blessing
Forgiven to be forgiving

Her name is...porterross! ;) Hee hee! :P

RadMan

20th October 2007, 04:01 PM

My aunt lives in your neck of the woods.
He doesn't live down there. He's visiting some Texan there :)

WildStrawberry

20th October 2007, 04:07 PM

y'all know this is his 2nd visit in...less than 6 months...

Hmm.. :idea: :hug::kiss: :blush: :D

Kae

porterross

20th October 2007, 04:31 PM

y'all know this is his 2nd visit in...less than 6 months...

Hmm.. :idea: :hug::kiss: :blush: :D

Kae

I know not of what you allude to.

RadMan

20th October 2007, 04:34 PM

y'all know this is his 2nd visit in...less than 6 months...

Hmm.. :hug::kiss: :blush: :D

KaeDaRev's giving the Delto guy a sabbatical :)

porterross

20th October 2007, 04:41 PM

DaRev's giving the Delto guy a sabbatical :)
Don't go there. I now attend another church.

RadMan

20th October 2007, 05:29 PM

Don't go there. I now attend another church.Didn't know that. Never saw your post.

LilLamb219

20th October 2007, 06:40 PM

I'm off to Saturday church services tonight. I can barely keep my head up though from cleaning at my sister's old house...groan. I hope God plays the handbells for me because I don't think I'm going to make it ;)

ctay

20th October 2007, 08:47 PM

Don't go there. I now attend another church.
I want to do that

DaRev

20th October 2007, 11:02 PM

I know not of what you allude to.

Silly girl. ;)

DaRev

20th October 2007, 11:04 PM

He doesn't live down there. He's visiting some Texan there :)

A specific Texan, that is. ;)

Radiata

20th October 2007, 11:25 PM

Hence the outfit.

Tofferer

21st October 2007, 12:55 AM

A specific Texan, that is. ;)
If I ever goto Texas, I may drop in on DaRev, but I have an aunt in Arlington who I would want to visit first. Nothing personal, just family.

mrshoperose

21st October 2007, 01:20 AM

Well, I hope you two have fun! :wave:

Just don't have too much fun........;)

:D

Tofferer

21st October 2007, 01:24 AM

Well, I hope you two have fun!

Send me a drunk armadillo!

:cool:

mrshoperose

21st October 2007, 01:26 AM

Send me a drunk armadillo!

:cool:
Why? So you can cook him up and have beer basted armadillo for lunch?

Tofferer

21st October 2007, 01:26 AM

Why? So you can cook him up and have beer basted armadillo for lunch?
Yep!

ctay

21st October 2007, 07:49 AM

Do people actually eat armadillo????

RadMan

21st October 2007, 08:32 AM

Do people actually eat armadillo????
I wouldn't. I heard years ago that some can carry leprosy. Don't know if that is true but they are related to the possum, only they have armor or an exoskeleton. Possum can be eaten but most people prefer not to indulge. Don't know about armadillo

Tofferer

21st October 2007, 10:27 AM

I was teasing Hope about it when I said "yep". I'm not even certain that an armadillo would make a good pet.

mrshoperose

21st October 2007, 07:04 PM

I was teasing Hope about it when I said "yep". I'm not even certain that an armadillo would make a good pet.
Don't even try, mister, don't even try!

DaRev

21st October 2007, 07:06 PM

If I ever goto Texas, I may drop in on DaRev, but I have an aunt in Arlington who I would want to visit first. Nothing personal, just family.

Well, I hope you and your aunt have a good visit because I live in Pennsylvania. :P

Tofferer

21st October 2007, 07:31 PM

Well, I hope you and your aunt have a good visit because I live in Pennsylvania. :P
Well, I guess the next time I goto Groton Ct. to see the Nautilis, I will just have to swing up your direction too.

Zecryphon

21st October 2007, 08:22 PM

Well, I guess the next time I goto Groton Ct. to see the Nautilis, I will just have to swing up your direction too.
Wow I used to live in CT. Fairfield County to be exact. Right next to Westport.

Tofferer

21st October 2007, 10:33 PM

Wow I used to live in CT. Fairfield County to be exact. Right next to Westport.
I went to submarine school out in Groton/New London.

Zecryphon

21st October 2007, 10:42 PM

I went to submarine school out in Groton/New London.
I once dated a girl from New London I think. Or maybe it was New Fairfield. I know I dated one from New Fairfield, but that was many moons ago.

KimLCMS

22nd October 2007, 12:44 AM

Does anyone else feel a lymrick comming on?

RadMan

22nd October 2007, 12:52 AM

"There once was lady from Nantucket........................."

Well----never mind.

KimLCMS

22nd October 2007, 12:53 AM

"There once was lady from Nantucket........................."

Well----never mind.
Great minds must think alike RadMan.

seajoy

22nd October 2007, 12:54 AM

"There once was lady from Nantucket........................."

Well----never mind.
Bro....what are you doing up yet? :doh:

KimLCMS

22nd October 2007, 12:55 AM

Hi Seajoy!

seajoy

22nd October 2007, 12:58 AM

Hi Seajoy!
Hello Kim....I just can't seem to get tired tonight. Had a good day....and hate to see it end maybe.

KimLCMS

22nd October 2007, 12:59 AM

I know what you mean.

Night time is my only "alone time"

RadMan

22nd October 2007, 01:04 AM

Bro....what are you doing up yet? :doh:Iz still here :)

seajoy

22nd October 2007, 01:06 AM

Iz still here :)
good to know :)

Tofferer

22nd October 2007, 02:56 AM

There are some lymricks that should never be repeated again. I would rather sharpen an ink pen.....

mrshoperose

22nd October 2007, 02:59 AM

Hi seajoy, I'm glad to hear you had a good day! :thumbsup:

Just watched Eragon. (we borrowed it from the library) It was a good movie! We're definitely going to have to get it! Have you seen it?

Hope you have another great day tomorrow! :clap:

Hope

RadMan

22nd October 2007, 08:53 AM

Do you guys ever go to bed? I thought I stayed up late.

LilLamb219

22nd October 2007, 08:58 AM

Morning!

seajoy

22nd October 2007, 09:03 AM

Morning!
back at ya! :wave:

Tofferer

22nd October 2007, 09:34 AM

Do you guys ever go to bed? I thought I stayed up late.
I have been known to stay up and work until 1am, goto bed at 2am, and be up and headed back to work again at 4am.

ctay

24th October 2007, 09:58 AM

Good morning

mrshoperose

24th October 2007, 04:02 PM

I have been known to stay up and work until 1am, goto bed at 2am, and be up and headed back to work again at 4am.
Yes, but that is rare. Most of the time you are just staying up late for homework or playing on the computer. (then, of course he gets up at 4am to go to work)

Tofferer

25th October 2007, 01:16 AM

And now I am building our robotic dog......

mrshoperose

25th October 2007, 01:29 AM

And now I am building our robotic dog......
our?

Tofferer

25th October 2007, 01:31 AM

our?
Fine! Jeremiah's robot dog.

filosofer

25th October 2007, 06:16 PM

http://www.news.com/8301-13772_3-9804720-52.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5

Something like this, Chris?

ctay

25th October 2007, 08:27 PM

I'm a morning person.
Feeling a little down right now, got to quit thinking about church and just leave and go to another one.

WildStrawberry

25th October 2007, 08:40 PM

I'm a morning person.
Feeling a little down right now, got to quit thinking about church and just leave and go to another one.

:hug: Ctay.

Why do you think you're still there? Do you feel that maybe you're being called to do something about the situation(s)?

Kae

ctay

25th October 2007, 08:52 PM

:hug: Ctay.

Why do you think you're still there? Do you feel that maybe you're being called to do something about the situation(s)?

Kae
I head the Braille, I wanted to try and get more involved in helping before I left. We just finished with it about a week ago. I ended up running off a lot of the braille sheets myself. I didn't go sunday, a couple of people said there was hardly anyone there. One said she tried counting, she counted 17 adults and maybe with kids made it about 25 there sunday. Average was running 80 to 100 a week before the pastor left. Usually runs now between 30 to 40. People are leaving cause they know they can't change anything and everyone's afraid to say anything. I know I cant change it not by myself anyway.

porterross

25th October 2007, 09:08 PM

I'm a morning person.
Feeling a little down right now, got to quit thinking about church and just leave and go to another one.

:hug: It's not easy. All I have left to do is officially transfer my membership, but be prepared for the guilt trips that might come your way once you announce your leaving. That's pretty stressful, too. :sigh:

ctay

25th October 2007, 09:13 PM

:hug: It's not easy. All I have left to do is officially transfer my membership, but be prepared for the guilt trips that might come your way once you announce your leaving. That's pretty stressful, too. :sigh:
I think part of its a guilt trip too. I mentioned to the interim pastor I wanted to transfer, not this past sunday but the Sunday before last, he said I didn't need to leave, they needed me there, blah, blah blah.

RadMan

25th October 2007, 09:17 PM

I feel no guilt on leaving my church for another. I feel my reasons were justified according to scripture. I just need to get the transfer going to.

porterross

25th October 2007, 09:19 PM

I think part of its a guilt trip too. I mentioned to the interim pastor I wanted to transfer, not this past sunday but the Sunday before last, he said I didn't need to leave, they needed me there, blah, blah blah.
If they push it too far, it will make things more clear to you why you have to leave, though. It did for me.

If you view things differently, so be it, but they need to accept that and respect your right to do what you think is best for your faith. It's sad that some people just can't see that and think they can force you to their way of thinking.

How far apart are these Miss Synod churches, anyway? Do you really have that many in the area?

ctay

25th October 2007, 09:23 PM

There's one 25 miles from me, the one I've been going to is 13 miles from me, another one is about 15-16 miles from me, another one is about 25 miles.

ctay

25th October 2007, 09:26 PM

These are the ones that are within 50 miles from me

http://www.lcms.org/ca/www/locators/nchurches/c_summary1.asp

Tofferer

25th October 2007, 10:14 PM

http://www.news.com/8301-13772_3-9804720-52.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5

Something like this, Chris?

Nope, nothing like that. Much closer to this.

ctay

26th October 2007, 04:30 AM

Went to town yesterday, stopped at the new Target in the area, had fun playing with stuff in the electronics. Shows you how much I get out and shop in Department stores.

Tofferer

26th October 2007, 07:43 AM

Went to town yesterday, stopped at the new Target in the area, had fun playing with stuff in the electronics. Shows you how much I get out and shop in Department stores.
Hope just won a $25 gift card for Target. I have to admit, Target is a real strange organization. It is rare that a subsidiary becomes so successful that it buys out the parent organization.

DaRev

26th October 2007, 10:27 AM

Nope, nothing like that. Much closer to this.

Is he house broken or does he leave little batteries around on the floor?

^_^

mrshoperose

26th October 2007, 10:40 AM

Is he house broken or does he leave little batteries around on the floor?

^_^
All Chris has done, is cut out the shape of the body and head. He hasn't built the inside yet.

LilLamb219

26th October 2007, 11:13 AM

Is he house broken or does he leave little batteries around on the floor?

^_^

:doh: ^_^

filosofer

26th October 2007, 11:58 AM

Chris, maybe you should enter this:

Rockets, Robots and a Flying Lunar Lander on Tap for X Prize 'Rocket Festival' (http://www.wired.com/science/space/news/2007/10/xprize_walkup)

mrshoperose

26th October 2007, 12:08 PM

Chris, maybe you should enter this:

Rockets, Robots and a Flying Lunar Lander on Tap for X Prize 'Rocket Festival' (http://www.wired.com/science/space/news/2007/10/xprize_walkup)
Oh, he's nowhere near that yet!

Tofferer

27th October 2007, 12:39 AM

I can only build K-9 as time and parts permit. The guys at work think its a pretty cool project and want me to have it finished to bring to the company picnic, so who knows.....

And no, he will not leave little batteries lying around, especially since my proposed power supply is a motorcycle battery.

mrshoperose

27th October 2007, 02:32 AM

Tofferer

27th October 2007, 02:36 AM

Oh yay, battery fluid....;)
Gel cells are usually recommended for robotics, motorcycle batteries are cheaper!

mrshoperose

27th October 2007, 02:38 AM

Gel cells are usually recommended for robotics, motorcycle batteries are cheaper!
What does that have to do with the dog making puddles all over our floor?!

Tofferer

27th October 2007, 02:42 AM

What does that have to do with the dog making puddles all over our floor?!
Unlike a car battery, which could possibly leak, motercycle and gel cells are generally sealed and do not usually leak. Besides, a motorcycle battery has a slightly longer service life than a gel cell and I may already have a charger for it.

mrshoperose

27th October 2007, 02:45 AM

Unlike a car battery, which could possibly leak, motercycle and gel cells are generally sealed and do not usually leak. Besides, a motorcycle battery has a slightly longer service life than a gel cell and I may already have a charger for it.
You are not getting it! I was making a joke about your robot dog making puddles on the floor!

I'm pretty sure it won't leak (at least it better not!), but most dogs (real ones) need to be housebroken.

That was the joke!

Tofferer

27th October 2007, 08:40 PM

Please take care to understand that this particular user has a very limited and sometimes warped sense humor. His sense of "fun" is based upon being destructive.

Tofferer

28th October 2007, 11:42 PM

ctay

30th October 2007, 09:54 AM

I showed up at my parents church yesterday to check out a woman's bible study, they are in the old testament. I'll probably stick with it. The only thing it will give the pastor more fuel to get me there all the time, he's already trying to get me to transfer there.

seajoy

30th October 2007, 04:40 PM

:wave: bye

mrshoperose

30th October 2007, 04:42 PM

:wave: bye
Why are you waving bye?! We like talking to you!

ctay

30th October 2007, 05:23 PM

:wave: bye
I hope your not leaving, we like you here.

mrshoperose

30th October 2007, 10:57 PM

Please take care to understand that this particular user has a very limited and sometimes warped sense humor. His sense of "fun" is based upon being destructive.
Then why are you building a robot dog?

WildStrawberry

30th October 2007, 11:25 PM

Then why are you building a robot dog?

Have you SEEN what K-9 can do with his nose???

:D

Kae

mrshoperose

30th October 2007, 11:45 PM

Have you SEEN what K-9 can do with his nose???

:D

Kae
No. Does he destroy things?

WildStrawberry

31st October 2007, 02:01 PM

Oh yes. It's a laser. LOL

Kae

mrshoperose

31st October 2007, 02:17 PM

Oh yes. It's a laser. LOL

Kae
Well all Chris is going to do with the dog (he's hoping anyway), is put in a fire detector (sense of smell), he's going to try to give the dog the ability to "hear" voices and respond to simple questions, and he will try to make the dog mobile (with a sensor to tell it where stuff is, so it won't bump into anything). There is no way that he will be able to make it just like the one on T.V.!

Tofferer

1st November 2007, 02:24 AM

Well all Chris is going to do with the dog (he's hoping anyway), is put in a fire detector (sense of smell), he's going to try to give the dog the ability to "hear" voices and respond to simple questions, and he will try to make the dog mobile (with a sensor to tell it where stuff is, so it won't bump into anything). There is no way that he will be able to make it just like the one on T.V.!
I wouldn't even try. That is beyond my abilities, resources, and known technology.

ctay

5th November 2007, 09:33 PM

I just got a question, anyone have any comments on the Beth Moore bible study series?

I'll probably be changing churches.

Studeclunker

5th November 2007, 11:17 PM

Personally, when it comes to dogs, I'll take the slobbery and hairy type. The relationship is much more rewarding.;)

DaRev

5th November 2007, 11:27 PM

Hey, Stude, what's up?

Studeclunker

6th November 2007, 12:02 AM

Hey, guys!:wave:

I'm just working a bit and moving around. Right now access to the net is a bit irregular and so I'm rarely on. However I've found a place to park the PC, so... I'll be around more, may--be.;)

There was a large travel trailer abandoned at a Fire Station down the road and I was able to snag it before the vandals did it in. The thing needs work, but it's largely in good shape. Still, I need to go through the lein sale process before it's mine. We'll see what develoups. Full time RVing for me, I guess.;)

RadMan

6th November 2007, 12:06 AM

BakaFidelis

6th November 2007, 01:44 AM

I just got a question, anyone have any comments on the Beth Moore bible study series?

I'll probably be changing churches.

I haven't heard of her myself. But then again, I suppose God made me a guy for His own good reasons ;)

Here are a couple of links from the WELS site that talked a little about Beth Moore. I actually wasn't able to find much from a conservative Lutheran perspective.

http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?1518&cuItem_itemID=7393&cuTopic_topicID=20

http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?1518&cuTopic_topicID=41&cuItem_itemID=1252

Is your church offering these Bible studies? What synod are you in and what has your Pastor said about the subject?

Tofferer

6th November 2007, 04:03 AM

Oh yes. It's a laser. LOL

Kae
Though I confess that is beyond my capability, the idea is intriguing enough to consider as a future upgrade.

ctay

6th November 2007, 06:34 AM

I haven't heard of her myself. But then again, I suppose God made me a guy for His own good reasons ;)

Here are a couple of links from the WELS site that talked a little about Beth Moore. I actually wasn't able to find much from a conservative Lutheran perspective.

http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?1518&cuItem_itemID=7393&cuTopic_topicID=20

http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?1518&cuTopic_topicID=41&cuItem_itemID=1252

Is your church offering these Bible studies? What synod are you in and what has your Pastor said about the subject?
Yes the womens group stated one yesterday, I went, the first session, she didn't go over many bible verses, just went on and on about people and basically said the same thing over and over again. I just didn't get much out of the session yesterday. This is the church that doesn't have a pastor. I go to an LCMS church.

BakaFidelis

6th November 2007, 01:53 PM

Yes the womens group stated one yesterday, I went, the first session, she didn't go over many bible verses, just went on and on about people and basically said the same thing over and over again. I just didn't get much out of the session yesterday. This is the church that doesn't have a pastor. I go to an LCMS church.

wow.. That is an unusual situation. I might be asking what you've probably already said somewhere... but why is there no pastor? Is there a call out? And how come there is no other pastor that at least checks up on the congregation?

I did a search on ELS/WELS in your state. As far as I can see there are only 3 churches in WELS and none from ELS. You probably already have this information and the likelihood that any are close to you would be pretty far-fetching, but...

Our Savior Lutheran Church, Birmingham AL
Rev Benjamin Kratz
205-678-7245

Lamb of God Lutheran Church, Madison AL
Rev Jim Turriff
256-233-5255

Saving Grace Lutheran Church, Mobile AL
Rev Harmon Lewis
251-633-8234

Personally, I am of the opinion that we need more home missions. Spreading the Word to the four corners of the earth is a wonderful God-blessed thing, but it almost seems to me that it is at the sake of those who are starving for the world right in our own country.

...

ctay

6th November 2007, 04:52 PM

The pastor took a call and left at the end of April of this year, the call committee got info from the congregation and sent it in, still waiting for names from the district office. There is an interim pastor but he's got a big church. The thing about it is there were a few wanting to do the services themselves when there's about 9 retired pastors in the circuit, a few didn't want them coming cause they didn't like them. Well anyway the part time secretary has been talking to the interim pastor and he said after the district got the info from the congregation that the district couldn't come up with any names to send, there's 2 maybe's. (The church is small) He said the guy that went through the Delto program could go through this program through LCMS and become like a Pastor but he couldn't pastor at any other church but this one.

ctay

6th November 2007, 04:57 PM

wow.. That is an unusual situation. I might be asking what you've probably already said somewhere... but why is there no pastor? Is there a call out? And how come there is no other pastor that at least checks up on the congregation?

I did a search on ELS/WELS in your state. As far as I can see there are only 3 churches in WELS and none from ELS. You probably already have this information and the likelihood that any are close to you would be pretty far-fetching, but...

Our Savior Lutheran Church, Birmingham AL
Rev Benjamin Kratz
205-678-7245

Lamb of God Lutheran Church, Madison AL
Rev Jim Turriff
256-233-5255

Saving Grace Lutheran Church, Mobile AL
Rev Harmon Lewis
251-633-8234

Personally, I am of the opinion that we need more home missions. Spreading the Word to the four corners of the earth is a wonderful God-blessed thing, but it almost seems to me that it is at the sake of those who are starving for the world right in our own country.

...
They would be a good drive from where I'm at. There's some LCMS church's around I could choose from and one ELCA I could go to that's not far.

DaRev

6th November 2007, 06:10 PM

They would be a good drive from where I'm at. There's some LCMS church's around I could choose from and one ELCA I could go to that's not far.

How close are you to these churches:

St Pauls Lutheran Church
1700 Carridale St SW
Decatur, AL 35601

Faith Lutheran Church
660 Gillespie Rd
Madison, AL 35758

ctay

6th November 2007, 06:26 PM

The one in Decatur and there's one in Cullman that would be closer to me than Decatur is the 2 I'm trying to decide to go to. The pastor at the one in Decatur is the Interim pastor for the church I'm at now. I talked to him a couple of weeks ago and said I wanted to transfer somewhere, he told me I needed to stay where I'm at and that they needed me right where I'm at. The pastor in Cullman has been trying to get me to come there, said he'd help me so I may end up there.

ctay

6th November 2007, 10:06 PM

I was just watching HGTV a little bit ago, was watching If Walls Could Talk. This couples house in South Carolina used to be a Lutheran Seminary in the 1800's.

Tofferer

6th November 2007, 11:34 PM

I was just watching HGTV a little bit ago, was watching If Walls Could Talk. This couples house in South Carolina used to be a Lutheran Seminary in the 1800's.
Wow! Thats impressive.

BakaFidelis

7th November 2007, 12:47 AM

arrr that is so frustrating. Not you. That the pastor doesn't seem to be listening to your desires. He is probably stressed out by having to run two congregations.

Sure the church you are at may need it's members. But it sounds like you are not happy there and you are not getting your needs met.

Well if you decide to go, go to the one in Decatur. If DaRev is recommending it, then he knows the church has a doctrine-sound pastor.

But whatever you do, please don't go ELCA. If you think you don't like the Beth Moore studies... ;)

Tofferer

7th November 2007, 01:10 AM

You don't want to join the ELCA. From what I understand, the head of the ELCA has never served as the pastor of a congregation.

ctay

7th November 2007, 06:41 AM

They are both good pastors, the one in Cullman and Decatur, I really like them both.

dinkime

7th November 2007, 09:00 AM

ctay

7th November 2007, 09:32 AM

I think it is good the interim pastor is trying to keep people at your old church while they go through this struggle -- it is hard for a new pastor to come in at any time, and then to have less members than told when they were being called? makes their life seem a little worthless i would think (like they arent good enough for some people)....
I know that's true. I just need to be somewhere else. What the congregation wants, they won't be getting a pastor anytime soon. I need to be somewhere where there's spiritual growth, being able to worship and listening to a good sermon. I can't really explain it.

ctay

7th November 2007, 09:21 PM

Tofferer

8th November 2007, 04:10 AM

it is hard for a new pastor to come in at any time

This is true. We are in the call process at Our Saviours in Burien. Our pastor has chosen to retire. He is still serving as the acting pastor, but we are otherwise, technically, without a pastor. So far the call committee has said nothing to either the council or the elders as to what is going on. I suspect that they are trying to be extra cautious as there are several individuals seeking a first call right now and a small congregation like ours (There are maybe three young families, including Hope and I, at our church) may not be what they have in mind for a first call (I will say that I think it would be an appropriate first call for some though, as it may challenge a recent seminary graduate).

synger

8th November 2007, 04:23 PM

I apologize for this. I just wanted to know if anyone has done any of the Beth Moore studies and what they thought of it. I didn't want to get into the church again. I apologize. I probably should have started another topic on asking if anyone been in one. Any feedback I can get on here is helpful since I don't have a pastor yet and would like others feedback. I sincerely apologize. I didn't want to get it off the question.
I haven't, but I'm willing to get one out of the library and look at it and give you some feedback. The three I can get are:

Get out of that pit : straight talk about God's deliverance

Believing God

To live is Christ : embracing the passion of Paul

Which one should I put on hold?

BakaFidelis

8th November 2007, 04:33 PM

I apologize for this. I just wanted to know if anyone has done any of the Beth Moore studies and what they thought of it. I didn't want to get into the church again. I apologize. I probably should have started another topic on asking if anyone been in one. Any feedback I can get on here is helpful since I don't have a pastor yet and would like others feedback. I sincerely apologize. I didn't want to get it off the question.

yes... sorry that I wasn't able to find anymore external feedback either. And that I led things away from your question

I will ask the women at choir tonight if they have heard anything about it.

ctay

8th November 2007, 05:06 PM

I can't think of the name of the one they picked. It has to do with dealing with difficult people or something like that.

I went to a women's bible study at the Cullman church last monday, they didn't have it this past monday, the leader was going to be out of town. They just got a bible study book on Obadiah, Micah and Jonah from Concordia. I'll probably stick with this one.

ctay

8th November 2007, 05:08 PM

Ok found out the one they picked is called Loving Well.

Studeclunker

8th November 2007, 05:40 PM

ctay

8th November 2007, 05:48 PM

DaRev

8th November 2007, 06:08 PM

I dunno about 'recent seminary graduates'. They seem to be getting some really out to lunch ideas about the pastorate and church organization.

Such as...

RadMan

8th November 2007, 06:56 PM

I dunno about 'recent seminary graduates'. They seem to be getting some really out to lunch ideas about the pastorate and church organization.

Hi, Rad. Yeah, I'm getting by. The trailer is parked on a friend's place who's kind enough to let me stay there. I hope to get it cleaned up and livable in the next month or so. Don't want to put any cash into it till it's officially mine, though.You're lucky that you found a "friends pad". Other people out in your area are having a hard time finding anything if they are strapped. My boy and his gfriend in Eugene OR just bought another travel trailer that they live in and the trailer park manager is giving the people a hard time because he wants to upgrade the clientel. So everyone, even if they have been there a long time, is getting flak form the manger to either upgrade the mobiles are he's going to lean on them till they leave.

After Thanksgiving I'm leaving and either going to Wickenburg AZ or CoosBay OR for the winter or....untill the money runs out. Weather is better in AZ but I like the sea better even though it's cooler and windier. Still haven't totally made up my mind yet.

I bought a street legal dunebuggy and trailer to pull behind my RV. Since the RV is underpowered I didn't want to exceed the tow limit and tow a car because of the weight. I don't want to ride a motorcycle any more so that's out.

Studeclunker

8th November 2007, 10:42 PM

Ok Revrand, but if you want to discuss this, we need to start another thread. The following is an example only of what has come to my attention:

The following quotations appear in the September/October Fort Wayne student paper, "The Cornerstone. "

"Wherever the bishop appears, there let the congregation be; just as
wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the catholic church."

"For where there is not a bishop preaching and comforting souls, there is no
Church."

However the Augsburg Confession Claims:

"Article VII: Of the Church.
Also they teach that one holy Church is to continue forever. The Church is
the congregation of saints, in which the Gospel is rightly taught and the
Sacraments are rightly administered. "

The Bishop is not the church

Incarnational Ecclesiology: Charitological and Liturgical" and "The Education of a Pastor."

"If all theology is indeed Christology, then it must follow that the same is
true for ecclesiology. How can this not be if the Church is the body of
Jesus Christ, who is Her head (Ephesians 5:23)? Thus, it is confessed that
the Church is incarnational. "

These statements have come out of Fort Wayne. I realize that this is your alma mater, Revrand, and don't wish to offend you. Still, these statements in the student papers are indicating an Eastern Orthodox philosophy comming out of our seminaries.
Scary stuff.

Now, with all due respect, Revrand, if you wish to discuss this further, I'm perfectly willing to start another thread. Your slant on this would be welcome, though a detailed discussion out of place here in the kitchen.

Hey Rad, if you go to Coos Bay, why not head towards the coast via HWY 299 and say hi? George and I are right off the highway at Fawn Lodge.

DaRev

8th November 2007, 11:10 PM

These statements have come out of Fort Wayne. I realize that this is your alma mater, Revrand, and don't wish to offend you. Still, these statements in the student papers are indicating an Eastern Orthodox philosophy comming out of our seminaries.

Concordia St. Louis is my alma mater. I would like to hear DaSem's take on this as that is where he attends currently. It disturbs me as well. Fort Wayne does tend to shy away from congregational polity.

ctay

9th November 2007, 09:45 AM

I heard the ones coming out of Texas are a little different too.

I'd like to go traveling, way the price of gas is going up, probably couldn't.

ctay

9th November 2007, 11:29 AM

Anyone heard from Seajoy, she took off suddenly with just a bye, I just hope she's ok.

Tofferer

9th November 2007, 11:52 AM

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Concordia St. Louis is my alma mater.

As I've stated before, I'm at Covenant here in Lakewood. Unfortunately, I fear that many of my fellow classmates should never be allowed to be pastors. Many of them seem ignorant of what the Bible really says. I was just recently challenged about the Lord's Prayer (again). This individual tried to tell me that it wasn't in the Bible. I have lost track of how many times I've had that discussion. I tell you the truth, it is always the same results, I show them the passages from Matthew and Luke, they are rendered silent. Why does seem that these other churches not teaching scripture?

mrshoperose

9th November 2007, 11:59 AM

Anyone heard from Seajoy, she took off suddenly with just a bye, I just hope she's ok.
I have been wondering what happened to her too.

Seajoy, if you read this....WE MISS YOU! You are definitely welcome to come back!

Zecryphon

9th November 2007, 12:48 PM

Anyone heard from Seajoy, she took off suddenly with just a bye, I just hope she's ok.
I sent her an email yesterday. I haven't heard back yet though.

BakaFidelis

9th November 2007, 12:51 PM

I apologize for this. I just wanted to know if anyone has done any of the Beth Moore studies and what they thought of it. I didn't want to get into the church again. I apologize. I probably should have started another topic on asking if anyone been in one. Any feedback I can get on here is helpful since I don't have a pastor yet and would like others feedback. I sincerely apologize. I didn't want to get it off the question.

Sorry Ctay, I struck out last night. None of the ladies in our choir had any first hand knowledge of the Beth Moore studies.

ctay

9th November 2007, 01:45 PM

Sorry Ctay, I struck out last night. None of the ladies in our choir had any first hand knowledge of the Beth Moore studies.
That's ok. It just seemed wrong or something, I can't put a finger on it. I felt like this before I fond out she goes to a Baptist church. I don't know but maybe not many of the Lutheran churches do it or something. I probably won't go back unless they pick something different out after they get done with this one.

ctay

9th November 2007, 01:47 PM

The way seajoy left, just a bye and nothing else, it worries me the condition she's in.

LilLamb219

9th November 2007, 02:36 PM

Anyone heard from Seajoy, she took off suddenly with just a bye, I just hope she's ok.

I've written to her. She's having some rough days right now. Prayers for her would be nice. :crosseo:

mrshoperose

9th November 2007, 04:48 PM

I've written to her. She's having some rough days right now. Prayers for her would be nice. :crosseo:
We will definitely continue to pray for her.

seajoy

9th November 2007, 10:43 PM

I've written to her. She's having some rough days right now. Prayers for her would be nice. :crosseo:
Thank you for requesting prayer for me. Yes, things have been very difficult lately, but it seems our dear Lord has given me some respite tonight. I am feeling quite a bit better.

I thank the many who have contacted me (PM's and emails), and had concern for me. I praise God for the peace I'm having tonight. It's certainly been some time since I've felt this way. :prayer:

Again, thank you, my dear friends, for your prayers.

God bless,
seajoy :hug:

ctay

9th November 2007, 10:56 PM

God bless you Seajoy

mrshoperose

9th November 2007, 11:04 PM

Great to hear!

Glad to see you back!

We have missed you!

My husband and I will continue to keep you in our prayers!

filosofer

9th November 2007, 11:17 PM

Hey, seajoy, good to see you, even for a few minutes.

My own time here is more limited as time goes on.

BakaFidelis

9th November 2007, 11:17 PM

Thank you for requesting prayer for me. Yes, things have been very difficult lately, but it seems our dear Lord has given me some respite tonight. I am feeling quite a bit better.

I thank the many who have contacted me (PM's and emails), and had concern for me. I praise God for the peace I'm having tonight. It's certainly been some time since I've felt this way. :prayer:

Again, thank you, my dear friends, for your prayers.

God bless,
seajoy :hug:

I only found out today that you were having trouble too (via this thread)... Glad you are back and as you pray for me, I pray for you as well! :)

Christ certainly does give respite, especially if you can give everything to him. Sometimes it is hard to do because our troubles seem to define us, even to ourselves. Keep your trust and revel in His love!

LilLamb219

9th November 2007, 11:37 PM

I'm very glad to hear that, Seajoy! You've been a comfort for me these last couple of days in my mourning for my husband's aunt and I've felt horrible that you were having a difficult time yourself. I'm glad the Lord has given you a good evening :clap:

Thank you for requesting prayer for me. Yes, things have been very difficult lately, but it seems our dear Lord has given me some respite tonight. I am feeling quite a bit better.

I thank the many who have contacted me (PM's and emails), and had concern for me. I praise God for the peace I'm having tonight. It's certainly been some time since I've felt this way. :prayer:

Again, thank you, my dear friends, for your prayers.

God bless,
seajoy :hug:

ctay

10th November 2007, 08:08 AM

Seajoy, glad to hear from you. God bless you. You know we're here if you need us.

mrshoperose

10th November 2007, 06:55 PM

Seajoy, glad to hear from you. God bless you. You know we're here if you need us.

:amen:

Studeclunker

10th November 2007, 08:02 PM

Praise God for the small blessings, Sis. May our Lord grant you the peace that passes all understanding. May he heal that which is currently challenging you.

Good to see you again, Seajoy.:wave:

Tofferer

11th November 2007, 01:42 AM

I send the online merchant "Old Lutheran" a complaint about the "Clergy Girl" product line. I have asked that it be discontinued. I could see a "Pastor Ken" toy, but not what I've seen there. Tempting though some of the products are (like the Luther and Katie bobble heads), I will not support a website that supports the idea of female clergy. No offense, but I don't think such a thing should be allowed based upon my limited understanding of scripture.

BakaFidelis

11th November 2007, 01:45 AM

I send the online merchant "Old Lutheran" a complaint about the "Clergy Girl" product line. I have asked that it be discontinued. I could see a "Pastor Ken" toy, but not what I've seen there. Tempting though some of the products are (like the Luther and Katie bobble heads), I will not support a website that supports the idea of female clergy. No offense, but I don't think such a thing should be based upon my limited understanding of scripture.

Now you can't mention martin and katie bobble heads without posting a link. Won't buy, but must see! lol Link plux!

Tofferer

11th November 2007, 01:51 AM

Now you can't mention martin and katie bobble heads without posting a link. Won't buy, but must see! lol Link plux!
Here you go:

http://www.oldlutheran.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=BH

And I was wrong, they are wind up dolls. Still tempting, but unless they drop the "clergy girl" product line, can't buy them.

BakaFidelis

11th November 2007, 02:01 AM

Here you go:

http://www.oldlutheran.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=BH

And I was wrong, they are wind up dolls. Still tempting, but unless they drop the "clergy girl" product line, can't buy them.

yeah, there are a few things I kinda liked too. But you are right. I also didn't agree with the License to Sin Boldy either. And what in the world is Left Behind merchandise there for?

Zecryphon

11th November 2007, 02:24 AM

yeah, there are a few things I kinda liked too. But you are right. I also didn't agree with the License to Sin Boldy either. And what in the world is Left Behind merchandise there for?
Okay the Left Behind merchandise I think is making fun of that hugely over-rated theological train wreck known as Left Behind by Jekins and LaHaye. If you look at where they've placed the "Left Behind" logo on those products, doesn't it seem to line up with the left cheek of a person's behind? Total coincidence I'm sure. It could not be intentional at all! LOL

P.S.

I must admit I added the license to sin boldly to my Christmas list this year along with a lot of other products from that site.

BakaFidelis

11th November 2007, 02:27 AM

Okay the Left Behind merchandise I think is making fun of that hugely over-rated theological train wreck known as Left Behind by Jekins and LaHaye. If you look at where they've placed the "Left Behind" logo on those products, doesn't it seem to line up with the left cheek of a person's behind? Total coincidence I'm sure. It could not be intentional at all! LOL

P.S.

I must admit I added the license to sin boldly to my Christmas list this year along with a lot of other products from that site.

left... behind! *slaps forehead* D'oh! Why didn't I think of that?

Zecryphon

11th November 2007, 02:33 AM

left... behind! *slaps forehead* D'oh! Why didn't I think of that?
It took me a while to "get it" too. Don't feel bad. But I'm still relatively new to this whole Lutheran thing, so I have an excuse for being an idiot. LOL What's yours? hehehe JK

BakaFidelis

11th November 2007, 02:38 AM

It took me a while to "get it" too. Don't feel bad. But I'm still relatively new to this whole Lutheran thing, so I have an excuse for being an idiot. LOL What's yours? hehehe JK

My excuse for being an idiot?

HA!

It is my name.

Literally.

Tofferer

11th November 2007, 12:01 PM

Wish I'd seen that product line sooner. That's funny.

dinkime

11th November 2007, 02:47 PM

i have quite a few things from old lutheran -- they are one of my favorite sites! one of my fave t-shirts says "luther is my homeboy" plus one that says "adam and eve are my cousins"

mrshoperose

11th November 2007, 07:30 PM

Okay the Left Behind merchandise I think is making fun of that hugely over-rated theological train wreck known as Left Behind by Jekins and LaHaye. If you look at where they've placed the "Left Behind" logo on those products, doesn't it seem to line up with the left cheek of a person's behind? Total coincidence I'm sure. It could not be intentional at all! LOL

P.S.

I must admit I added the license to sin boldly to my Christmas list this year along with a lot of other products from that site.
Left...behind....Oh man! What will they think up next!

BakaFidelis

11th November 2007, 09:16 PM

Well if there is a moral objection to purchasing straight from the dealer because of the clergy girl line... you could always check around. Maybe someone on ebay has it lol

Tofferer

11th November 2007, 09:47 PM

Well if there is a moral objection to purchasing straight from the dealer because of the clergy girl line... you could always check around. Maybe someone on ebay has it lol
Once they eliminate/exterminate "clergy girl", there shouldn't be a big problem. Besides, I'm saving money for a better purpose, check out the "nerd" thread to find out what.

Radiata

12th November 2007, 12:41 PM

Tofferer

12th November 2007, 01:19 PM

Pastor Paul talked about Revelations on the last 3 solas class and said that the reason that Left Behind sold so well is because many denominations believe it, where Paul said that if he wrote a "Left Until" book, it wouldn't be very interesting.
I'm not too surprised. Too many modern christians have itching ears and want to hear that they won't have to suffer. Sadly, the human condition is such that we enjoy hearing about the suffering of others. Ironically, there is a book that refutes LaHaye/Jenkins. It is called "Survivors (http://www.amazon.com/Survivors-Youll-surprised-gets-behind/dp/9966755004/ref=pd_bbs_7/102-8576436-2510501?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1194886090&sr=8-7)" by a guy calling himself "Zion Ben Jonah" (which he admits is a spin off the name of one of the characters in the Left Behind books). I've read this book, really interesting.

filosofer

12th November 2007, 01:30 PM

The best lay person's guide to refuting the entire premillennial dispensationalism is the following book. Sadly I loaned out my two copies about 15 years ago and never received them back. While CPH published it first, NPH re-published it, and now no one does. I had the privilege of calling him about 15 years ago and discussing the book, and especially his charts/diagrams. Excellent teaching resource.

Plueger, Aaron Luther. Things to Come for Planet Earth. St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1977. (Introduction to the topic) (I think it was revised in 1991)

Tofferer

12th November 2007, 01:38 PM

I just found it on amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/Things-come-planet-Earth-Bible/dp/057003762X/ref=pd_ys_qtk_rvi/102-8576436-2510501?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1QTR0DDZGQYR3NYN2Z0K&pf_rd_t=1501&pf_rd_p=186412001&pf_rd_i=home).

LutheranChick

12th November 2007, 03:27 PM

Changing the subject, but yikes - will someone please remind me to never go into those creation vs evolution threads. Nasty. It just makes me extremely sad that some people who believe in evolution think that just because you believe in creation that you must be completely ignorant, brainwashed, unable to think for yourself, etc...

This coming Sunday we are having a professor from Bethany Lutheran College in Mankato come down and speak on creation vs evolution. We sent out invitations to all the local churches. It will be interesting to see what kind of attendence we get. I cannot wait to hear him - I know it will be very good!

Tofferer

12th November 2007, 04:41 PM

LutheranChick

12th November 2007, 05:18 PM

The two books that we were discussing I have now ordered via amazon and should have in about 14 days.

As for creation vs. evolution, I would suggest reviewing http://www.icr.org and http://www.gennet.org for good information about the subject. Please be advised that neither of these is a "lutheran" website, rather they are creationist sites. Still, it is interesting reading.
Thanks for the links - I have no doubts about creation myself - but I refuse to be drawn into any 'debate' or 'discussion' of the topic in that are in those creation vs evolution threads. The people are just so mean - calling creatrionists out and out liars (and worse), that we have some kind of agenda, and on and on. And they think that if they present enough 'evidence' for evolution, that people who believe in creation should just say - "oh yes, that makes perfect sense - whatever was I thinking!" And if we don't, we are just ignorant. (someone posted a video that just set me off so I have to rant)

While I understand that on the flip side, there are creationists who do much the same thing (although I notice that evolutionists tend to be much more insulting), I know that arguing about it will not convince anyone of anything. I'm not going to convince an evolutionist that God created the world by presenting any kind of evidence. Only the Word of God can change their hearts.

Just venting - thanks for listening :)

Studeclunker

12th November 2007, 05:39 PM

Plueger, Aaron Luther. Things to Come for Planet Earth. St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1977. (Introduction to the topic) (I think it was revised in 1991)

You know, Filo, it often seems that Concordia goes out of their way to not publish, or quit publication beyond a minimum run, anything that's useful for appologetics.

Changing the subject, but yikes - will someone please remind me to never go into those creation vs evolution threads. Nasty. It just makes me extremely sad that some people who believe in evolution think that just because you believe in creation that you must be completely ignorant, brainwashed, unable to think for yourself, etc...

Yes, sadly, one has to keep in mind that Evoloutionism has become another religion. If one approaches the issue from that standpoint, there is a better, more flexible, stance to take. Though one has to keep in mind that the conversation is often with a fanatic who's mind is completely closed to the truth. I usually keep pounding them with the question, "Exactly what proof does science provide for Macro-Evolution?" Keep at it and one can finally get them to the point where there appear the missing links, or guesses. That's where they really begin spinning.

Thanks for the links - I have no doubts about creation myself - but I refuse to be drawn into any 'debate' or 'discussion' of the topic in that are in those creation vs evolution threads. The people are just so mean - calling creatrionists out and out liars (and worse), that we have some kind of agenda, and on and on. And they think that if they present enough 'evidence' for evolution, that people who believe in creation should just say - "oh yes, that makes perfect sense - whatever was I thinking!" And if we don't, we are just ignorant. (someone posted a video that just set me off so I have to rant)

This is most certainly true

While I understand that on the flip side, there are creationists who do much the same thing (although I notice that evolutionists tend to be much more insulting), I know that arguing about it will not convince anyone of anything. I'm not going to convince an evolutionist that God created the world by presenting any kind of evidence. Only the Word of God can change their hearts.

Just venting - thanks for listening :)

I'm there with ya, Sis.

Tofferer

12th November 2007, 05:49 PM

God bless both of you.

Oh, regarding my forums character, check the "Veteran" thread. I will only do this this twice a year and never for more than three days (this is the second day).

filosofer

12th November 2007, 06:14 PM

Happy birthday, Lutheran Chick!

WildStrawberry

12th November 2007, 06:19 PM

Happy birthday, Lutheran Chick!

Happy birthday to Lutheran Chick!
Happy birthday to Lutheran Chick!
Happy birthday dear Lutheran Chiiiiiick...
Happy birthday to Lutheran Chick!

:D

Now...where was that cake? LOL

Kae

LutheranChick

12th November 2007, 06:29 PM

Happy birthday to Lutheran Chick!
Happy birthday to Lutheran Chick!
Happy birthday dear Lutheran Chiiiiiick...
Happy birthday to Lutheran Chick!

:D

Now...where was that cake? LOL

Kae
Thanks for the b-day greetings, everyone! And, here's some cake for all - a coffee cake! http://www.julesbakery.com/images/coffcpbl_small.jpg (http://www.julesbakery.com/images/coffcpbl.jpg)

mrshoperose

12th November 2007, 06:57 PM

Thanks for the b-day greetings, everyone! And, here's some cake for all - a coffee cake! http://www.julesbakery.com/images/coffcpbl_small.jpg (http://www.julesbakery.com/images/coffcpbl.jpg)
Ugh! You can keep it! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_8_17.gif

Here is real cake! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_6.gif

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_11_7.gif or http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_4_21.gif or http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_11_8.gif

These are better than coffee any day! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_7.gif

Oh, by the way... Happy Birthday! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/13/13_10_3.gif

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/29/29_5_5.gif

Tofferer

12th November 2007, 06:59 PM

WildStrawberry

12th November 2007, 07:06 PM

no no! look at it! it's a cake made to LOOK like a coffee cup!!

Way cute!

Kae

Tofferer

12th November 2007, 07:07 PM

I think its pretty cool.

ctay

12th November 2007, 07:15 PM

Happy birthday Lutheran Chick.

LutheranChick

12th November 2007, 07:49 PM

no no! look at it! it's a cake made to LOOK like a coffee cup!!

Way cute!

Kae
Woo hoo! You got it! :)

RadMan

12th November 2007, 09:46 PM

Left...behind....Oh man! What will they think up next!The next series coming of the Left Behind series is the "Right behind" series. They don't want to leave any behinds out. That's exactly what they're thinking with :doh:

Tofferer

12th November 2007, 09:49 PM

The next series coming of the Left Behind series is the "Right behind" series. They don't want to leave any behinds out. That's exactly what they're thinking with :doh:
LOL. You are such a wise guy. Still, you are a great guy. Good one. Oh, in case you missed it (was it another thread?), I ordered those books via amazon.com and should have them soon.

RadMan

12th November 2007, 09:53 PM

LOL. You are such a wise guy. Still, you are a great guy. Good one. Oh, in case you missed it (was it another thread?), I ordered those books via amazon.com and should have them soon.Yea that came from somebody years ago who said this other character was sitting on his brains. :)

.

Zecryphon

12th November 2007, 10:41 PM

The next series coming of the Left Behind series is the "Right behind" series. They don't want to leave any behinds out. That's exactly what they're thinking with :doh:
Is that part of the "No Behind Left Behind Act"?

RadMan

12th November 2007, 11:13 PM

Is that part of the "No Behind Left Behind Act"?I read most of the left behind series for entertainment purposes. Started to get draggy after about 6 volumes. It's was a story. Just a story. Not really that engaging after awhile.

LilLamb219

12th November 2007, 11:24 PM

Happy Birthday, Lutheran Chick!

porterross

13th November 2007, 12:17 AM

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k101/pocolocogal/tn_hbmonalisa.jpg

Enjoy the anniversary of your birth immensely. :)

BakaFidelis

13th November 2007, 12:42 AM

Hey HEY

A glad and Happy Birthday LutheranChick!

Tofferer

13th November 2007, 02:21 AM

I read most of the left behind series for entertainment purposes. Started to get draggy after about 6 volumes. It's was a story. Just a story. Not really that engaging after awhile.
I think I started to burn out around book four. I read five and six more for the sake of morbid curiousity. I haven't read beyond six yet. Don't know that I will.

Studeclunker

13th November 2007, 02:31 AM

I really enjoyed the Left Behind series for the first three books. However, on the third book they started re-hashing so much of the story that by the next volume it was half catch-up. I felt gyped. Each volume got worse and went downhill from there. Often I hoped that Reader's Digest would get ahold of the series and condense all nine or ten books into three easily read volumes. A prime case where the publisher and authors could be accused of milking a good story to death.:sigh:

WildStrawberry

13th November 2007, 02:48 AM

I never could get into the Left Behind stories (however I DO want the left behind gear at Old Lutheran...) because I just couldn't suspend my disbelief...or my beliefs...that much.

However, if you haven't read them yet, Paul Meier's Skeleton books are excellent.

A Skeleton in God's Closet (http://wilddogsbookreviews.blogspot.com/)

More than a Skeleton (http://www.amazon.com/More-Than-Skeleton-Against-World/dp/1595540032/ref=sr_1_7/002-3189192-5069658?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1194932836&sr=1-7)

More than a Skeleton is Maier's response to the Left Behind books and pretty much kept me on the edge of my seat. I couldn't put it down.

Kae

Tofferer

13th November 2007, 03:20 AM

The book "Survivors" which I just bought via amazon.com is also a rebuttal of Left Behind. Its author even goes so far as to say that all of the Left Behind novels can be condensed into a single paperback and that LaHaye & Jenkins need to get the "L" out of the name of thier "god". I think it will be interesting to finally read it completely through. Couldn't do so when I borrowed it from my father-in-law, returned before I could finish (what was I thinking?)

ctay

13th November 2007, 07:04 AM

I never could get into the Left Behind series either.

RadMan

13th November 2007, 09:54 AM