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7angel
18th September 2007, 05:31 PM
Thus they are its works, is not difficult to know them, it is only necessary to watch and to hear well
41 17 (http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/matthew/matthew25.htm#foot17) Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
43 a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.'
44 18 (http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/matthew/matthew25.htm#foot18) Then they will answer and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?'
45 He will answer them, 'Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.'
TheOrthodoxOne
19th September 2007, 12:26 AM
Thus they are its works, is not difficult to know them, it is only necessary to watch and to hear well
41 17 (http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/matthew/matthew25.htm#foot17) Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
43 a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.'
44 18 (http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/matthew/matthew25.htm#foot18) Then they will answer and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?'
45 He will answer them, 'Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.'
I do not understand your post. Could you clarify the point you intended to make by it? Thanks
-David
7angel
19th September 2007, 07:33 AM
Someone think that the antichrist is a supernatural person.
The antichrist is not a monster similar to which fights against "" power ranger "", are people of flesh and bones like us, the wolves with skin of ewes, is an error to invent a mystical being.
This is the point.
zeke37
19th September 2007, 09:35 AM
7angel, you are incorrect
the antiChrist is Satan himself, cast from heaven....to earth (Rev12)
he is also called the son of perdition (2Thes2)
Satan is a fallen angel, a supernatural being....
in His service
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MoNiCa4316
19th September 2007, 11:13 AM
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. (Ephesians 6)
The antichrist is the devil and he is a spiritual, supernatural being....our fight is not against people, they are not the enemy.
But it's true that sometimes/often the devil uses human beings for his purposes. We don't actually see him (yet), we just see the works of those who follow him. They are enslaved to satan and he uses them to spread evil.
The Scripture you posted in the beginning shows that our works can either be 'fruits' of the Spirit or of the devil, good or evil...and if we are following the devil in our lives, we are living in darkness and have no part in the Kingdom of heaven. The devil is not the people/works themselves, that is only how his evil is visibly manifested in this world.
There is a spiritual reality beneath the things that we do and the people that we are.
God bless.
7angel
19th September 2007, 01:49 PM
Jesus came to the world to save the men, because we are bad of birth, we are born with a malignant spirit called satán, is the spirit of this world.
Jesus says; only one is the good , God, Jesus leave us in inheritance the Holy Spirit , now we have the option to choose.
We chose the malignant spirit with who we were born or we chose the Holy Spirit who saves us and he convert us rejecting the malignant Spirit that we bring of birth, so that the antichrist arises into us by our pride, also it arises because we believed us to be self-sufficient and wise people
In several countries it is said; died the dog finished the rage, but it does not have to be thus, must be, to finish with the rage without killing the dog.
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, the human being
JOHN 17
14 I have given your Word them, and the world has hated them, because your word are not of the world, as I am not of the world.
15 I do not request to you that you retire them of the world, but that you keep them from Malignant.
16 They are not of the world, as I am not of the world.
17 sanctify them in the truth: your Word is truth.
18 As you have sent me to the world, I also have sent them to the world.
19 and by them I sanctify same me, so that they also are sanctified in the truth.
20 nonrequest only by these, but also by which, by means of his word, they will believe in me,
MoNiCa4316
19th September 2007, 04:06 PM
Do you believe that satan is not a separate being who tempted us, but our fallen nature itself? The way I see it, we are originally 'of this world', but it's not like satan is actually living within us...we were just his followers and were spiritually dead. Once we are saved, we are 'of God' and become spiritually alive.
7angel
19th September 2007, 06:19 PM
Hi Monica
MATTHEW 16 4 An evil and unfaithful generation seeks a sign, but no sign will be given it except the sign of Jonah." 3 (http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/matthew/matthew16.htm#foot3) Then he left them and went away
Why Jesus called him, An evil and unfaithful generation
22 18 (http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/matthew/matthew16.htm#foot18) Then Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him, "God forbid, Lord! No such thing shall ever happen to you."
For us, the intention of Peter was not bad, but, for Jesus, yes
23 He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are an obstacle to me. You are thinking not as God does, but as human beings do."
First, it defines to Peter like satán, and soon says , You are thinking not as God does, but as human beings do."
He means that the spirit of badly is in the way to be and to think of the man.
amadeus2
19th September 2007, 06:27 PM
I agree 7angel, the antichrist spirit is in each us, even those that have received the Holy Spirit. The battle still rages for dominion.
"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time." I John 2:18
"From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?" James 4:1
restore
19th September 2007, 08:26 PM
I agree 7angel, the antichrist spirit is in each us, even those that have received the Holy Spirit. The battle still rages for dominion.
"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time." I John 2:18
"From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?" James 4:1
Feel the same, it is a horrible battle.:eek:
Andy Broadley
19th September 2007, 08:27 PM
I've had a couple of Mother in Laws like that.
JHM
19th September 2007, 08:58 PM
Pergamum
When evil incarnate's archangel, cast down from heaven on high;
Re-established his throne in Pergamum, the eagle again rose to fly;
A pheonix risen from ashes, the kingdom which served as his seat;
In a land of fortified towers on earth, where Lucifer fled in retreat.
An empire arose, of nations which chose, to seek common cause in one name;
What was and was not, again was begot, and then the antichrist came;
To claim for his own, the imperial throne, from the shadows the dark prince stepped;
The unburied dead got, the messiah they sought, and still the Babalonians slept.
JHM
19th September 2007, 09:34 PM
Satan :
He'd chosen his moment with care, having found the master asleep;
Once having disposed of the harlot, he vowed he'd level the keep;
For he knew he was lost; and whatever the cost, he meant to kill all the grain;
And the price wasn't cheap, for to get at the keep, t'was first his own children he'd slain;
And though the keep's walls were strong, they couldn't last long, the archfiend's fire was so hot;
Yet midst deafening din, with walls caving in, the lions of Judah still fought!!
As not for nothing called chosen, fearless they faced the end;
When the almighty arm, of Yahweh Sabaoth, in fury arose to defend!!
IN FURY arose to defend.
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