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simchat_torah
4th October 2003, 02:55 AM
Messianic Tidbits
Shalom Mishpochah (family),
I somewhat envision this section of the forum as a place where the Messiah, his teachings, and prophecies concerning him can be viewed through the spectacles of Judaism. So much of Y'shua's teaching and life have deeper levels of meaning when viewed through these lenses!
I have much to share concerning little insights of the Messiah as seen through the Jewish spectacles, and I am very excited to finally begin posting those here.
Enjoy!
Yafet.
simchat_torah
4th October 2003, 02:55 AM
Y'shua once said that he was the way, the truth, and the life... and none can come unto the Father except through him.
Now, in our americanized 20th century view we see that Y'shua is the only way, he presents pure truth, and brings life.
Yet, there is more to this than meets the eye.
There are 3 seperate entrances into the Temple. There is a gate that leads into the outer court, a door that leads to the holy place, and a curtain that leads to the holy of holies. In Rabbinic Judaism, there are nicknames for these three entrances. The Gate was nicknamed "The Way", the door "The Truth", and the curtain was called "The Life".
Y'shua was the embodiment of Torah, and thusly, he is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and he is the one and only path that leads us to the Holy of Holies.
Shalom,
Yafet.
simchat_torah
4th October 2003, 02:56 AM
There is a special peice of Matzah bread that is used during the Passover ceremony called the Afikomen. Interestingly Afikomen is Greek...
The common Jewish meaning of this word is either dessert or entertainment. Daube questions this understanding. He even makes the statement, "The Talmudic interpretations of the word Aphiqoman are wide off the mark - maybe deliberately so." The Greek word for afikomen is aphikomenos, used in an aorist tense, and thus means "He has come."
There is much more symbolism involved that simply the meaning of the word.
Y'shua took this peice of bread at the passover table, and stated, "this is my body, broken for you".
The symbolism continues in the traditions that are carried out with the Matzah itself...
This piece of Matzah is broken in two, wrapped with a white cloth, hidden by the father of the household, sought out by the children who then receive a reward for finding this peice of Matzah, and must be eaten by the end of Pesach.
Comparitively, Y'shua was broken, he was wrapped in a white cloth and then buried, we the Children of the Father seek him out, and when we find him, we receive a reward... eternal life.
The final symbolism is more or less a teaching in itself. Y'shua was the embodiment of Torah. Y'shua states that we must eat of is flesh if we want to see heaven. There are many levels of Kabbalistic understanding going on here, but I'll just brush against one of them.
If we want to see heaven we must embody the Torah, consume it, and make it the very nature of our being.
When we do this, we have partaken of the Messiah.
More on the passover later....
Shalom,
Yafet.
SonWorshipper
4th October 2003, 08:13 PM
Y'shua once said that he was the way, the truth, and the life... and none can come unto the Father except through him.
Now, in our americanized 20th century view we see that Y'shua is the only way, he presents pure truth, and brings life.
Yet, there is more to this than meets the eye.
There are 3 seperate entrances into the Temple. There is a gate that leads into the outer court, a door that leads to the holy place, and a curtain that leads to the holy of holies. In Rabbinic Judaism, there are nicknames for these three entrances. The Gate was nicknamed "The Way", the door "The Truth", and the curtain was called "The Life".
Y'shua was the embodiment of Torah, and thusly, he is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and he is the one and only path that leads us to the Holy of Holies.
Shalom,
Yafet.
Amein! We Start walking in the right way, and that is how we find the Truth and then can enter into life by the blood of the lamb. Amein!
SonWorshipper
4th October 2003, 08:42 PM
There is a special peice of Matzah bread that is used during the Passover ceremony called the Afikomen. Interestingly Afikomen is Greek...
The common Jewish meaning of this word is either dessert or entertainment. Daube questions this understanding. He even makes the statement, "The Talmudic interpretations of the word Aphiqoman are wide off the mark - maybe deliberately so." The Greek word for afikomen is aphikomenos, used in an aorist tense, and thus means "He has come."
There is much more symbolism involved that simply the meaning of the word.
Y'shua took this peice of bread at the passover table, and stated, "this is my body, broken for you".
The symbolism continues in the traditions that are carried out with the Matzah itself...
This piece of Matzah is broken in two, wrapped with a white cloth, hidden by the father of the household, sought out by the children who then receive a reward for finding this peice of Matzah, and must be eaten by the end of Pesach.
Comparitively, Y'shua was broken, he was wrapped in a white cloth and then buried, we the Children of the Father seek him out, and when we find him, we receive a reward... eternal life.
The final symbolism is more or less a teaching in itself. Y'shua was the embodiment of Torah. Y'shua states that we must eat of is flesh if we want to see heaven. There are many levels of Kabbalistic understanding going on here, but I'll just brush against one of them.
If we want to see heaven we must embody the Torah, consume it, and make it the very nature of our being.
When we do this, we have partaken of the Messiah.
More on the passover later....
Shalom,
Yafet.I love this part of the Seder, but it breaks my heart to think of those that don't understand what the Afikomen is for. I especially like the rejoicing that is done when the "napkin wrapped treasure" is found and the buying back of the Father of the found piece.
Yafet, speaking of eating, I would like to see this delved into in more depth , perhaps in relationship to Revelation 10:8-9 and compare that with
Genesis 3:22
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
AND
Ezekiel3:1 Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this roll, and go speak unto the house of Israel.
2 So I opened my mouth, and he caused me to eat that roll.
3 And he said unto me, Son of man, cause thy belly to eat, and fill thy bowels with this roll that I give thee. Then did I eat [it]; and it was in my mouth as honey for sweetness.
4 And he said unto me, Son of man, go, get thee unto the house of Israel, and speak with my words unto them.
5 For thou [art] not sent to a people of a strange speech and of an hard language, [but] to the house of Israel;
What do you think?
koilias
4th October 2003, 10:55 PM
Simchat...where are mentions of three gates found in Rabbinic literature?
This is very interesting...
Any chance you know what verses in the Tenakh figure into those references?
KelsayDL
5th October 2003, 06:35 PM
There are 3 seperate entrances into the Temple. There is a gate that leads into the outer court, a door that leads to the holy place, and a curtain that leads to the holy of holies. In Rabbinic Judaism, there are nicknames for these three entrances. The Gate was nicknamed "The Way", the door "The Truth", and the curtain was called "The Life".
Fascinating.
simchat_torah
5th October 2003, 11:57 PM
Koilas, it is contained in a book referencing Rabbinic literature on the Fall festivals... I'll try to find that passage later this week.
simchat_torah
16th November 2003, 04:23 PM
The book, The Fall Feasts of Israel, is written by Mitch and Zavah Glasser... and I've loaned out the book some time ago, and am currently trying to get it back. If you want to purchase it, I'd highly reccomend the book.
Anyway, here's another tidbit:
The date for a Jewish wedding is known by the Groom and the Father, but the date is specifically reserved to be announced by the Father of the Groom alone.
I find this interesting in relation to Acts 1, and other such passages.
Shalom,
YAfet.
Henaynei
16th November 2003, 07:40 PM
The date for a Jewish wedding is known by the Groom and the Father, but the date is specifically reserved to be announced by the Father of the Groom alone.
I find this interesting in relation to Acts 1, and other such passages.
Shalom,
YAfet.And the bride is kept in twitterpated anticipation for a whole year, especially as the "season" of the year in which the betrothal was announced approaches.
She spends the time preparing to set up a home in the house her beloved is preparing for her.
Until she hears the shofar and the voices of the bridegroom and his friends coming through the streets, unannounced, in joyous procession, she does not know when her betrothed will return. For those in young love a year long seperation is agony - and delicious anticipation. Throughout the year she will hear other "bridegrooms" go through the town but her heart leaps only at the voice of her beloved........
Maranatha!
Pray4Isrel
19th November 2003, 12:45 PM
Super-Cool, Yafet!
simchat_torah
19th March 2004, 12:09 AM
I found on a very very old forum that I used to frequent someone had replied to my post concerning "the way, the truth, and the life".
Here was his reply:
Although this post is quite old, it is the only other reference I have come across to the three entrances of the tabernacle/temple having these names. I heard it from my teacher, who in turn heard it from his. but there is also another aspect to this:
First entrance, the Way: the altar and the laver. the altar representing repentance and the laver representing remission/cleansing from sin. Only thru this may we enter the second entrance, and without it we cannot, the Truth: the Menorah being the enlightenment of G`d's Word, the Table being the fellowship of the believers, and the incense being the work of prayer and devotion. It is by entering into these two that we may enter into the Life, representing our communion and fellowship with the Holy One of Blessing by walking in the Presence of His Spirit.
interesting...
-yafet
WildCelt
19th March 2004, 11:26 AM
This a great thread (started before my time here, so I missed it). Thanks for the bump!
simchat_torah
23rd March 2004, 09:56 PM
You know when Yeshua told Peter that he would deny him three times before the cock crowed? Well, Mishnah says that no chickens were allowed inside of Yerushalayim. Further, the "Temple crier," a levitical priest, was known as the "gaver," which means "cock" or "rooster." Peter was standing within earshot of the Temple when he denied knowing Yeshua. In this case, it doesn't much change the ultimate story, but if our minds are taking in the wrong picture, just think of how enhanced our view can be when we get the correct picture.
EchadHashem
24th March 2004, 12:22 AM
I love the symbolism of the wedding. It has been pointed out that the 7 Festivals are, in fact, rehearsals of the Covenant of Salvation. However, I believe that other aspects of our Jewish heritage, like the wedding ceremony, are rehearsals of the Covenant of Salvation.
For example, HaShem cuts His covenants with blood. Each year on Yom Kippur the Covenant was cut anew between YHVH and Isreal when the Cohen Gadol entered through the parokhet into the Most Holy Place (known anciently as the wedding chamber) with Blood.
The parallel between this and the cutting of the Marriage Covenant between a man and a woman is very beautiful....there is an entering in through a veil and blood.
For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. Beresheit 2:4
This is the Eternal Covenant...to restore (forever) the echad between Hashem and man that was lost in the garden.
PeterPaul
24th March 2004, 01:03 AM
Simchat, wonderful post my friend! I learned a lot today. This knowledge can only bring us closer to G-d.
Shalom
simchat_torah
24th March 2004, 01:18 AM
This knowledge can only bring us closer to G-d.
AMEN!
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