mpossoff
2nd September 2007, 04:44 PM
To those orthodox Messianic Jews this is the mystery of the gospel.
Question: do you not regard the NT?
This is a quote from someone from another board. He explained it better than myself!
Genitle inclusion is the mystery of the Gospel. More importantly, the inclusion, the grafting in, is the supernatural act of God.
For I do not want you, brothers, to be ignorant of this mystery (lest you be wise in yourselves), that hardness has come upon Israel in part, until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in;
And thus all Israel will be saved, as it is written, "The Deliverer will come out of Zion; He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob.
And this is the covenant from Me with them, when I take away their sins."
According to the gospel thay are enemies for your sake, but according to the selection they are beloved for the fathers' sake.
For the gracious gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. (Rom. 11:25-29)
Inclusion in Israel is not the result of choosing to follow the Noach-ide laws or to go to synagogue or to convert to a sect of mainstream Judaism. These are all ways certain people have chosen to define other people in relation to themselves. Rather, God makes the covenant, takes away sins, irrevocably calls, and grafts in. In Messiah Yeshua, the status of the Gentile as a full participant in Israel is not predicated upon any tractate of the Talmud or other halach-ic ruling. No, the Gentile's position was bought with the blood of Messiah himself!
The true mystery and miracle is that those who were born Gentiles and who were without hope or God in the world, have been raised up and placed as part of the redeemed people of God. This is why Paul admonishes the gentiles to remember where they came from; so that they would not boast in themsellves but in Him. What He has done was (and is), in man's eyes, impossible. But with God, all things are possible.
Marc
Question: do you not regard the NT?
This is a quote from someone from another board. He explained it better than myself!
Genitle inclusion is the mystery of the Gospel. More importantly, the inclusion, the grafting in, is the supernatural act of God.
For I do not want you, brothers, to be ignorant of this mystery (lest you be wise in yourselves), that hardness has come upon Israel in part, until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in;
And thus all Israel will be saved, as it is written, "The Deliverer will come out of Zion; He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob.
And this is the covenant from Me with them, when I take away their sins."
According to the gospel thay are enemies for your sake, but according to the selection they are beloved for the fathers' sake.
For the gracious gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. (Rom. 11:25-29)
Inclusion in Israel is not the result of choosing to follow the Noach-ide laws or to go to synagogue or to convert to a sect of mainstream Judaism. These are all ways certain people have chosen to define other people in relation to themselves. Rather, God makes the covenant, takes away sins, irrevocably calls, and grafts in. In Messiah Yeshua, the status of the Gentile as a full participant in Israel is not predicated upon any tractate of the Talmud or other halach-ic ruling. No, the Gentile's position was bought with the blood of Messiah himself!
The true mystery and miracle is that those who were born Gentiles and who were without hope or God in the world, have been raised up and placed as part of the redeemed people of God. This is why Paul admonishes the gentiles to remember where they came from; so that they would not boast in themsellves but in Him. What He has done was (and is), in man's eyes, impossible. But with God, all things are possible.
Marc