Liberal Christians reporting in CC

[GreenMunchkin]

I don't know if this is even do-able, but I'm beginning to think we should only allow members of the forum to report posts. There's now been a few reported by our more liberal brothers and sisters. Now, WWMC is a hot-bed of conservative Christian-bashing. Do we go in there and report them? Nope.

I resent its being done in CC. So I'd like to discuss whether it's possible; if it is, whether you all think it's a good idea, and how we'd implement it.

[Miss Shelby]

I am more concered about a certain mod who panders to liberals at the expense of the members of this forum.

[Letalis]

I don't know if it's possible to limit who can report posts. However, I think it's possible to limit who can participate in those reports.

[GreenMunchkin]

I am more concered about a certain mod who panders to liberals at the expense of the members of this forum.I think that the mod is genuinely trying to reach out to them, to show them conservative Christians aren't all evil, as IIDB and WWMC (and "4U") claims, but given who the liberals in this forum are, they take advantage of that, so I agree, it's a problem.

I don't know if it's possible to limit who can report posts. However, I think it's possible to limit who can participate in those reports.Thanks for your input :) How do we go about doing that? Another alternative is to go into WWMC and start reporting every single anti-conservative post in there but, frankly, I'd sooner we didn't stoop to that level. But it's really beginning to [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth] me off.

[Hentenza]

The problem that I see is that this particular mod trainee is walking a fine line by continuing to post here after being politely told to stop. The mod is not braking any rules by posting here, however, the mod's motivation to continue to post here is to cause strife. Mods need to raise above and self impose discipline when they know that their posts are causing friction. This is more a matter of common sense that a matter of rules.
I politely ask that someone with a yellow tag or above talk to this mod and impress the need to heed the wishes of the members of this forum. I am not going to use the mods name here because I believe everyone is aware who this mod is and there is no need for mud slinging.

Peace

[JimfromOhio]

We can play the liberal's games in their forum. I don't like restrictions.

[Rochir]

If you find flames against you in WWMC, go ahead and report them. By all means, that's what you SHOULD do! :)

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Let's not stoop to their level guys. We've already been slandered enough...why add fuel to the flame?

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Rochir, shouldn't we be more mature than that? Why should we have to defend ourselves? As far as I'm concerned it's very immature and reminds me of how children/teenagers act in high school. "I'm gonna tell on you!!"..."go ahead! I'm gonna tell on you more!". :doh: Ridiculous.

[zoziw]

If someone on CC breaks one of the core Foru.ms rules, then I think any member should be able to report that.

So far I think the mods are doing a reasonable job of separating the wheat from the chaff on the filed reports.

[JimfromOhio]

The great enemy of Christianity is a complacent spirit, an attitude of self-satisfaction with the status quo.

[Rochir]

Rochir, shouldn't we be more mature than that? Why should we have to defend ourselves? As far as I'm concerned it's very immature and reminds me of how children/teenagers act in high school. "I'm gonna tell on you!!"..."go ahead! I'm gonna tell on you more!". :doh: Ridiculous.

LT, I agree! However, when someone here insults others from another congregation, breaks rules and is even cheered on for that .... should not something be done? Seriously!:scratch:

[Miss Shelby]

The problem that I see is that this particular mod trainee is walking a fine line by continuing to post here after being politely told to stop. The mod is not braking any rules by posting here, however, the mod's motivation to continue to post here is to cause strife. Mods need to raise above and self impose discipline when they know that their posts are causing friction. This is more a matter of common sense that a matter of rules.
I politely ask that someone with a yellow tag or above talk to this mod and impress the need to heed the wishes of the members of this forum. I am not going to use the mods name here because I believe everyone is aware who this mod is and there is no need for mud slinging.

Peace
I suppose the posts can still be reported, perhaps someone will see the trolling for what it is. Maybe we could start the ball rolling on an FSB?

[GreenMunchkin]

LT, I agree! However, when someone here insults others from another congregation, breaks rules and is even cheered on for that .... should not something be done? Seriously!:scratch:Please. There was *no* breaking rules and cheering on. Rochir, just leave the discussion. This is what I meant. This is a CC decision, pertaining to CC policy and its members. Back off.

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

LT, I agree! However, when someone here insults others from another congregation, breaks rules and is even cheered on for that .... should not something be done? Seriously!:scratch:

Not within our own congregations. You are obviously free to post what you want in yours...why shouldn't we be free in our own.

Please. There was *no* breaking rules and cheering on. Rochir, just leave the discussion. This is what I meant. This is a CC decision, pertaining to CC policy and its members. Back off.


I agree with GM. Enough is enough. Seriously!

[Hentenza]

I suppose the posts can still be reported, perhaps someone will see the trolling for what it is. Maybe we could start the ball rolling on an FSB?

Hey Miss Shelby,

That is why I wish a super or above would just council her. I honestly see no good reason why she continues to post here other than to bait and cause friction. It makes me seriously question her abilities to execute her mod duties if she can't have the common sense to leave well enough alone. To me it looks like she is in some kind of crusade to prove something.

[JimfromOhio]

LT, I agree! However, when someone here insults others from another congregation, breaks rules and is even cheered on for that .... should not something be done? Seriously!:scratch:

Every Christian posters must decide whether they will use their liberty to post however they choose. We are free, but our freedom does not mean we can abuse our freedom and abuse God's grace. Spiritual liberty means the freedom to be all that we were designed to be, but this is not a freedom that is without restrictions or responsibilities.

[jameseb]

No surprise, they did this to conservatives in the Political forums too - Some of the self-identified liberals just love to patrol conservative forums looking for an axe to grind..... and it's not proportional either.


I don't know if this is even do-able, but I'm beginning to think we should only allow members of the forum to report posts. There's now been a few reported by our more liberal brothers and sisters. Now, WWMC is a hot-bed of conservative Christian-bashing. Do we go in there and report them? Nope.

I resent its being done in CC. So I'd like to discuss whether it's possible; if it is, whether you all think it's a good idea, and how we'd implement it.

[No Swansong]

I am more concered about a certain mod who panders to liberals at the expense of the members of this forum.
Miss Shelby may I use your siggy? (i will of course give you credit)

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Miss Shelby may I use your siggy? (i will of course give you credit)
:eek: ^_^ I hadn't seen that before! Good one Miss Shelby...:thumbsup: :D

[Lisa0315]

Okay, folks. People are upset and people are venting. I understand that. Keep it half-way civil until I can get some guidance from Senior Staff. Don't want my folks in trouble over this until it can be decided how to handle things. Okay?

[GreenMunchkin]

No surprise, they did this to conservatives in the Political forums too - Some of the self-identified liberals just love to patrol conservative forums looking for an axe to grind..... and it's not proportional either.Not surprised :( The thing that gets me about this, though, is the flaming of *us* in WWMC is just astonishing, yet we leave them to it. Unfortunately, they are unable to afford us that same courtesy. When I say "they", most of them wouldn't presume to be so arrogant, but sadly the same cannot be said for all.

This is our safe haven, and we should be able to express ourselves freely. Seriously, grrrr.

Miss Shelby may I use your siggy? (i will of course give you credit)Ha!! Best. signature. ever.

You know it'll be reported, right? It'll somehow be seen as a flame against people who are pro-choice or something :|

[Lisa0315]

I don't know if it's possible to limit who can report posts. However, I think it's possible to limit who can participate in those reports.

Somebody loan me a dunce hat...

Lisa

[Miss Shelby]

Miss Shelby may I use your siggy? (i will of course give you credit)
Sure, feel free. :)

[No Swansong]

It seems to me that some of this may still be based upon the no cross membership rule. But I admit this is purely speculation on my part.

[Letalis]

If that is me you are talking about, you are wrong. I am doing my job to the best of my ability. I am not going to please everyone all the time, but I am going to do the best job that I can. It is often a judgement call so I would appreciate it if you would let me do my job without making me look like some Liberal supporter. I am not. That is completely unfair and I am calling you on it.

Lisa
I'm not talking about anyone. I'm talking about a rule that could limit participation from those who are not members of our forum.

[£amb]

Okay....strolling in around post 20ish...:)

My opinion is that if we're talking about liberals as a whole and giving our thoughts and views...then no...we shouldn't be reported because this is our forum to discuss anything.

If we are talking strictly about an indivdual and the information is false...then that person can report the thread/post.


The report button shouldn't be used because your feelings were hurt by something you read in another forum (unless it was specifically about an individual). Goodness, think of how many reports we conservatives could make just be reading what was in WWMC.

:)

[jameseb]

Not surprised :( The thing that gets me about this, though, is the flaming of *us* in WWMC is just astonishing, yet we leave them to it. Unfortunately, they are unable to afford us that same courtesy. When I say "they", most of them wouldn't presume to be so arrogant, but sadly the same cannot be said for all.

This is our safe haven, and we should be able to express ourselves freely. Seriously, grrrr.


It was the same in the politics fora too - conservatives, for the most part, left the liberals to their venomous threads in their forum without reporting them. Unfortunately, the same respect wasn't shared.

There's a reason I am a "conservative" - I simply didn't want to be associated with those who are hateful and use the liberal banner to sugar-coat their ill feelings.

[Lisa0315]

If that is me you are talking about, you are wrong. I am doing my job to the best of my ability. I am not going to please everyone all the time, but I am going to do the best job that I can. It is often a judgement call so I would appreciate it if you would let me do my job without making me look like some Liberal supporter. I am not. That is completely unfair and I am calling you on it.

Lisa

Dang it! I replied to the wrong person. Editing that post and reposting it to the right person. I apologize!!!!

Lisa

[Lisa0315]

I am more concered about a certain mod who panders to liberals at the expense of the members of this forum.

If that is me you are talking about, you are wrong. I am doing my job to the best of my ability. I am not going to please everyone all the time, but I am going to do the best job that I can. It is often a judgement call so I would appreciate it if you would let me do my job without making me look like some Liberal supporter. I am not. That is completely unfair and I am calling you on it.

[Miss Shelby]

Just a quick question that's popped to mind, if anyone knows. Do mods come up for a re election process? I know there is some kind of process for voting them in but is there any process for voting them off?

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

If that is me you are talking about, you are wrong. I am doing my job to the best of my ability. I am not going to please everyone all the time, but I am going to do the best job that I can. It is often a judgement call so I would appreciate it if you would let me do my job without making me look like some Liberal supporter. I am not. That is completely unfair and I am calling you on it.
Lisa honey...I don't think anyone is referring to you. :hug:

[Lisa0315]

Just a quick question that's popped to mind, if anyone knows. Do mods come up for a re election process? I know there is some kind of process for voting them in but is there any process for voting them off?

Yeah, members can vote out a mod anytime from what I understand.

Lisa

[Lisa0315]

Lisa honey...I don't think anyone is referring to you. :hug:

I hope you are right, but I don't think you are.

Lisa

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

Lisa honey...I don't think anyone is referring to you. :hug:
Oh...wait. I re-read Miss Shelbys post. :doh:

MS...I don't think that your being fair to Lisa. There are rules she has to follow as a mod too and it's a difficult position to be in.

Or perhaps you were referring to one of the others? :scratch:

[Lisa0315]

Look guys. I am open to any complaints you have. We can do it right here and there will absolutely be no reports. If you have concerns about decisions I have made, please state them. I do not hold grudges. I am sincerely trying to serve this forum. I cannot do that without feedback.

Lisa

[GreenMunchkin]

Sorry, but can we drag this back on topic?

[Lisa0315]

Sorry, but can we drag this back on topic?

Sure, sorry. I will go start a thread.

Lisa

[Lisa0315]

Directly related to this thread...we need some member input on this report please...

http://foru.ms/t6025842-conservative-christians-rochir-09-02-2007.html#post38434187

[Letalis]

Guidelines can be created that limits who can make reports in this forum. Guidelines can also be created to limit who can participate in CC reports.

It has to be Wikied and snapshotted.

[ContentInHim]

If you find flames against you in WWMC, go ahead and report them. By all means, that's what you SHOULD do! :)
I disagree. You guys need to turn the other cheek as you say we don't do. :doh:

The liberals toot their tolerance horns but that tolerance doesn't extend to CC apparently. :(

[jameseb]

The liberals toot their tolerance horns but that tolerance doesn't extend to CC apparently. :(


It doesn't extend to anyone who doesn't support their ideology.

[jameseb]

~edit~

oops.. wrong thread :sorry:

[Lisa0315]

Guidelines can be created that limits who can make reports in this forum. Guidelines can also be created to limit who can participate in CC reports.

It has to be Wikied and snapshotted.

This needs to be brought back to the top. Can someone make a stab at developing a rule that will cover this?

Lisa

[GreenMunchkin]

Guidelines can be created that limits who can make reports in this forum. Guidelines can also be created to limit who can participate in CC reports.

It has to be Wikied and snapshotted.Oh, dude, thank you! :hug:

If no-one minds, will start a thread and poll to get this done as soon as possible... is that ok?

[Lisa0315]

Oh, dude, thank you! :hug:

If no-one minds, will start a thread and poll to get this done as soon as possible... is that ok?

Excellent. If I may make a small suggestion...put some wording in there that they may defend themselves if they personally have been reported, but may not comment on other reports, etc.

Lisa

[GreenMunchkin]

Was thinking maybe Hen could word it... :scratch: He has a knack.

Can a poll be added to this thread? Would be easier than starting a whole new thread about it?

[ContentInHim]

Excellent. If I may make a small suggestion...put some wording in there that they may defend themselves if they personally have been reported, but may not comment on other reports, etc.

Lisa
I think this is fair!

[Letalis]

I think it's important enough to warrant its own thread.

[GreenMunchkin]

I think it's important enough to warrant its own thread.Okiedoke :)

[WalksWithChrist]

This seems like more of a side-wide issue that just a CC one.

For example, I find random threads all the time just by seeing their thread titles on the main page. Then I check it out and find it is in an odd section I may not normally frequent.

If I see a flame in [insert forum here], should I not report it if it is bad enough like say calling a member by name and saying they should burn in hell? (just a random made-up example! lol)

This board is run by rules. Sure they ain't perfect, but they're what we have.

Further, if flaming takes place in a "flame protected" zone it degrades those that feel like they can be comfy flaming others...not to mention the feelings of the target.

[AcousticDoll]

Monkeys Reporting to lions

[GreenMunchkin]

Mods, seeing as this has been resolved, this can be closed. I see no reason for it to stay open. Thanks.

[Lisa0315]

Closed at the Request of the OP