Book of Concord Study

[JM]

Is there any online?

[WildStrawberry]

The best place to start is Bookofconcord.com There is a weekly reading guide and a "BoC blog"

Hope this helps!

Kae

[Tofferer]

I've been reading the Book of Concord on my own. Fascinating to say the least. I think it is one book that every Christian should have in thier home, right next to the ever faithful and inerrant Bible itself.

[JimfromOhio]

The best place to start is Bookofconcord.com There is a weekly reading guide and a "BoC blog"

Hope this helps!

Kae

Thank you.

I like this site (http://www.bookofconcord.com/). It is very useful. :thumbsup:

[Tofferer]

My pastor discussed the Book of Concord in class today. He said to be suspicious of the Kolb/Wengert Edition. Frankly, I agree. Unfortunately, that is what my mother in law bought me for Christmas a few years ago (she liked it up until she read article 17 of the Augsburg Confession). To help me with my studies, my pastor gave me a copy of the book Concordia which is published Concordia Publishing. Really awesome. I also have the Triglotta Concordia installed as a BibleDesktop module on my Puppy Linux system. I enjoy doing comparative studies with these texts.

[Lupinus]

I have read somewhere around half of the BoC but am at the moment focusing on the bible alone, I will come back to the BoC later.

But really, it is something more Lutherans should read. In our first meeting my Pastor and I discussed what I already knew so he could answer any questions for me, by that time he said I had read mroe of the BoCX then half the congregation who had been there for years.

[Tofferer]

I firmly believe that all Christians should read the BoC. This book point to scripture and helps to explain those things which we believe. Eventually I will buy myself one of the other versions of the BoC. I may end up with three of them, but that is fine by me.

[porterross]

I firmly believe that all Christians should read the BoC. This book point to scripture and helps to explain those things which we believe. Eventually I will buy myself one of the other versions of the BoC. I may end up with three of them, but that is fine by me.


Too bad those in the specific ministry programs don't have this perspective or are required to study it before being allowed to instruct new members and confirmands. :sigh:

[DaSeminarian]

Too bad those in the specific ministry programs don't have this perspective or are required to study it before being allowed to instruct new members and confirmands. :sigh:

That would actually be the one thing I would require of them if I were running the program. If they make it out alive they can preach. ^_^

[porterross]

That would actually be the one thing I would require of them if I were running the program. If they make it out alive they can preach. ^_^


I can assure you it's not at all required or understood why that specific teaching is so important. :( The one good thing about what that is doing here is that it will likely end the experiment in this area as the church is dying.

These folks got upset when someone said they weren't Lutheran enough and even more upset when I admitted I agreed. :)

We'll be driving to the next town, 70 miles away, this Sunday to attend services. :tutu:

[DaSeminarian]

I can assure you it's not at all required or understood why that specific teaching is so important. :( The one good thing about what that is doing here is that it will likely end the experiment in this area as the church is dying.

These folks got upset when someone said they weren't Lutheran enough and even more upset when I admitted I agreed. :)

We'll be driving to the next town, 70 miles away, this Sunday to attend services. :tutu:

The SMPP as I understand it is designed to take the place of Distance Education Leading to Ordination. Really in my opinion it is just renaming the program to appeal to those who were against this "Correspondence Course" seminary training. If you use the same methods as DELTO and just change the name it is still DELTO. I am waiting for someone to correct me and prove to me that SMPP is a better and improved curriculum than DELTO. Until then I am sitting on the proverbial fence with my feet dangling on the against side of the issue.

I hope you enjoy the services in the neighbor town though I don't know that I would drive 70 miles to church. Maybe half that, but 70 seems like a long way to go.

[Tofferer]

I drive about 45 to 50 miles round trip to church each sunday. I don't think an extra 20 miles would matter to me. Of course, to goto a church that encourages its members to read the BoC is worth it.

[porterross]

The SMPP as I understand it is designed to take the place of Distance Education Leading to Ordination. Really in my opinion it is just renaming the program to appeal to those who were against this "Correspondence Course" seminary training. If you use the same methods as DELTO and just change the name it is still DELTO. I am waiting for someone to correct me and prove to me that SMPP is a better and improved curriculum than DELTO. Until then I am sitting on the proverbial fence with my feet dangling on the against side of the issue.

It all looks like the same animal to me only it will cost the congregations more. :|


I hope you enjoy the services in the neighbor town though I don't know that I would drive 70 miles to church. Maybe half that, but 70 seems like a long way to go.

In Texas? Are you kidding?

If that were the only way to have your child properly instructed and to attend a properly reverent worship service, it wouldn't seem so far.

I spoke with the pastor today and had to laugh. I think he and Rev rolled out of the same cabbage patch. :thumbsup:

[RadMan]

I can assure you it's not at all required or understood why that specific teaching is so important. :( The one good thing about what that is doing here is that it will likely end the experiment in this area as the church is dying.

These folks got upset when someone said they weren't Lutheran enough and even more upset when I admitted I agreed. :)

We'll be driving to the next town, 70 miles away, this Sunday to attend services. :tutu:
hmmmm............................these long extended trips might be happening to more people than we know. I'm sure there are a lot of disgruntled people that are leaving churches.

I'm just not comfortable with a church that isn't much more than just a social club and opened one day a week for people that feel like they need to do penance....................and nothing else.

[DaRev]

I drive about 45 to 50 miles round trip to church each sunday. I don't think an extra 20 miles would matter to me. Of course, to goto a church that encourages its members to read the BoC is worth it.

But she's talking about 70 miles... one way.

[DaSeminarian]

It all looks like the same animal to me only it will cost the congregations more. :|




In Texas? Are you kidding?

If that were the only way to have your child properly instructed and to attend a properly reverent worship service, it wouldn't seem so far.

I spoke with the pastor today and had to laugh. I think he and Rev rolled out of the same cabbage patch. :thumbsup:
Briar patch is more like it. ;)

I guess that for the right catechism I probably would even go 100 miles, but I might just go the night before so that I don't have to get up so early in the morning. Find a cheap motel and crash for the night.

[Tofferer]

I often have wondered if the only LCMC in my area was the one in Hoqium, if I would drive there every sunday (200 miles round trip). I don't know. I think I would sooner try to start an LCMC chapter. Again, I don't know. I do know that where ever I goto church, the Gospel should be preached and the sacraments administered responsibly.

[latebloomer]

I'm blessed. I live in a part of the country that's absolutely infested with LCMS churches--one in every town, and a few country churches too. Phone book's full of German names. But I don't think I've read the entire BOC. Confirmation class was a loooong time ago. I'm planning to get one soon.

[Qoheleth]

My pastor discussed the Book of Concord in class today. He said to be suspicious of the Kolb/Wengert Edition. Frankly, I agree.


Interesting. What is there to be suspicious of?

Does anyone else agree with Tofferer and his pastor?


Q

[DaRev]

Interesting. What is there to be suspicious of?

Does anyone else agree with Tofferer and his pastor?


Q

I don't.

[Tofferer]

The Kolb/Wengert is the ELCA translation of the BoC. I have heard that there are discrepencies in it versus the Triglotta Concordia, and this from LCMS pastors. I suspect that as the adult sunday school sessions progress, I may learn some of those.

[DaRev]

The Kolb/Wengert is the ELCA translation of the BoC. I have heard that there are discrepencies in it versus the Triglotta Concordia, and this from LCMS pastors. I suspect that as the adult sunday school sessions progress, I may learn some of those.

The Kolb/Wengert is not exclusively ELCA. Dr. Robert Kolb, who is the co-editor, and Dr. Charles Arand, one of the translators, are both LCMS seminary professors. Dr. Timothy Wengert, co-editor and ELCA prof, probably shares more doctrine with the LCMS than with the ELCA.
The Kolb/Wengert is the edition used for LCMS seminary instruction.

[DaSeminarian]

The Kolb/Wengert is not exclusively ELCA. Dr. Robert Kolb, who is the co-editor, and Dr. Charles Arand, one of the translators, are both LCMS seminary professors. Dr. Timothy Wengert, co-editor and ELCA prof, probably shares more doctrine with the LCMS than with the ELCA.
The Kolb/Wengert is the edition used for LCMS seminary instruction.

AMEN!

[DaSeminarian]

The Kolb/Wengert is not exclusively ELCA. Dr. Robert Kolb, who is the co-editor, and Dr. Charles Arand, one of the translators, are both LCMS seminary professors. Dr. Timothy Wengert, co-editor and ELCA prof, probably shares more doctrine with the LCMS than with the ELCA.
The Kolb/Wengert is the edition used for LCMS seminary instruction.


Just because the Augsburg Fortress Press published it doesn't mean that it is ELCA.

[Tofferer]

Either way. I am planning to buy a copy published by Concordia House. Its always good to have extra references.