We should have a "Ask a CC" subforum

[HypnoToad]

Jameseb started a thread here called "Q&A - Ask a Conservative Christian".

We actually should have our own subforum here for just that purpose. I mentioned it somewhere previously, but no one made any comment on it.

I don't think single thread is sufficient for that purpose.

It should be a subforum for non-members to ask (politely) about any conservative view, and then only CC members can respond.

Other congregational forums here have a similar subforum, it seems to work well.

[Debi1967]

I agree it does work well and will cut down on threads in this area of the forum where we hang out and talk to one another.

[HypnoToad]

*bump*

[MrJim]

Lemme guess, another poll :doh:

Sounds good to me~just do it!

[GreenMunchkin]

We really should, dude. God seems to want something like this to happen, because it's occurred to a few people simultaneously.

http://foru.ms/t5980975-qa-ask-a-conservative-christian.html

http://foru.ms/t5980885-do-you-know-jesus-thread.html

Here are the two threads (including jamesb's :hug:) with a similar idea. Yours makes 3! :clap: God is awesome :)

[HypnoToad]

We really should, dude. God seems to want something like this to happen, because it's occurred to a few people simultaneously.

http://foru.ms/t5980975-qa-ask-a-conservative-christian.html

http://foru.ms/t5980885-do-you-know-jesus-thread.html

Here are the two threads (including jamesb's :hug:) with a similar idea. Yours makes 3! :clap: God is awesome :)
Well, I proposed this a while back, and no one commented on it. But James' thread is the specific reason I brought it up again.

If we are going by the "new rule protocol" on this, then my proposed poll question is:

"Should there be a separate subforum for the sole purpose of non-CC members to ask about CC beliefs?"

Obviously, the options are "yes" and "no".

The proposed rules of the subforum would be:
1. Only non-CC members may start threads. They may ask any question (or series of related questions) about the views or beliefs of conservative Christians. Questions must be in a respectful, non-trolling tone.

2. Other than the non-CC member who started the thread, NO OTHER non-CC member may post in the thread. The thread starter may ask follow-up questions for clarification purposes, but may NOT debate against answers received. The purpose of the subforum is for information, not for debate.

3. Any CC member may respond, but may not debate against another CC member's response. CC members can certainly give a different view point than what was previously offered, but may not say something to the effect of "your response was wrong because ... ".

[GreenMunchkin]

Well, I proposed this a while back, and no one commented on it. But James' thread is the specific reason I brought it up again.

If we are going by the "new rule protocol" on this, then my proposed poll question is:

"Should there be a separate subforum for the sole purpose of non-CC members to ask about CC beliefs?"

Obviously, the options are "yes" and "no".

The proposed rules of the subforum would be:
1. Only non-CC members may start threads. They may ask any question (or series of related questions) about the views or beliefs of conservative Christians. Questions must be in a respectful, non-trolling tone.

2. Other than the non-CC member who started the thread, NO OTHER non-CC member may post in the thread. The thread starter may ask follow-up questions for clarification purposes, but may NOT debate against answers received. The purpose of the subforum is for information, not for debate.

3. Any CC member may respond, but may not debate against another CC member's response. CC members can certainly give a different view point than what was previously offered, but may not say something to the effect of "your response was wrong because ... ".The only thing we'd need to alter, possibly, is the part of Rule 1 that says "non-trolling tone" because that might be open to interpretation...

Say, do you think it'd get enough traffic to warrant its being a whole subforum?

[HypnoToad]

The only thing we'd need to alter, possibly, is the part of Rule 1 that says "non-trolling tone" because that might be open to interpretation...
It's totally open for suggestions.

Say, do you think it'd get enough traffic to warrant its being a whole subforum?It might not have "a lot" of traffic, but James' thread has been open less than a day, and it looks like three questions have already come up so far. That's not too shabby.

[GreenMunchkin]

It's totally open for suggestions.I can't think of anything brilliant. Or anything, at all. We can all work on that :P

It might not have "a lot" of traffic, but James' thread has been open less than a day, and it looks like three questions have already come up so far. That's not too shabby.Good point. Plus, the forum's gonna continue to grow, so it doesn't hurt to get everything in place early on. Ok, that's that one dealt with :)

[Nadiine]

It's totally open for suggestions.

It might not have "a lot" of traffic, but James' thread has been open less than a day, and it looks like three questions have already come up so far. That's not too shabby.
I think alot depends on people's agendas who come here.

If they're people who want to argue and fight against conservativism/us, then they won't want to just ask us a question and not haggle over issues to try to show us why wer'e so screwed up lol. :ebil:

IF they don't have an agenda and just honestly want to know an answer or why something is that way, that's a great thread for them.

I had mentioned this when I joined CC the other day, that the Reformed area has "Ask a Calvanist". It wasn't exactly a debate area, but people were allowed to ask them questions and it was a pretty busy subforum.

I think it's worth a try, and if it isn't popular enough, it can always be removed.
I'm a debate person, so adding anything more to the CC forum that brings in discussion makes me HAPPY. :pink:

[GreenMunchkin]

I really like Xian's suggestion that each person who asks a question gets their own thread, almost. No-one who isn't a member of the forum would be able to respond, and if they did, it would be a clar violation and easily enforceable. Plus it'd give people the room to ask all the questions they need.

I'm not sure we should say they shouldn't be able to "debate" responses, though, in that, let's say they've been brought up to believe something, and we tell them something different, they're gonna want to debate that, and limiting their discussion to solely asking questions would stifle an awful lot of what they say. But anything that starts heading into debate territory would still be confined to their thread. If that makes any sense.

[HypnoToad]

I really like Xian's suggestion that each person who asks a question gets their own thread, almost. No-one who isn't a member of the forum would be able to respond, and if they did, it would be a clar violation and easily enforceable. Plus it'd give people the room to ask all the questions they need.

I'm not sure we should say they shouldn't be able to "debate" responses, though, in that, let's say they've been brought up to believe something, and we tell them something different, they're gonna want to debate that, and limiting their discussion to solely asking questions would stifle an awful lot of what they say. But anything that starts heading into debate territory would still be confined to their thread. If that makes any sense.
Well, if it turns into a debate, that's what the debate subforum would be for. There's really no stifling, as they can always start a debate in that subforum, or have the thread moved if they wish.

I'm basically trying to model this after the "Questions by Non-Christians" forum. The rule is the same there - ask a question, but you can't debate against the Christian responses.

[GreenMunchkin]

Well, if it turns into a debate, that's what the debate subforum would be for. There's really no stifling, as they can always start a debate in that subforum, or have the thread moved if they wish.

I'm basically trying to model this after the "Questions by Non-Christians" forum. The rule is the same there - ask a question, but you can't debate against the Christian responses.Great forum, actually, so it's probably a pretty good model to copy.

Ok, let me get this all linear in my head :)

So they can ask questions - as many as needed - in the Ask a CC sub-forum. Only they and members of this forum would be able to post in that thread.

If they come across a point they actually want to debate, they can start a thread in the Debate sub-forum. The debate sub-forum is going to be open to all, so will the Ask off-shoots then be open to *everyone*, or still just to the non-CC individual who created the thread and CC members?

[HypnoToad]

Great forum, actually, so it's probably a pretty good model to copy.

Ok, let me get this all linear in my head :)

So they can ask questions - as many as needed - in the Ask a CC sub-forum. Only they and members of this forum would be able to post in that thread.

If they come across a point they actually want to debate, they can start a thread in the Debate sub-forum.
That's how I want it to work, yes. (They could also ask to have their thread moved from the Ask area to the Debate area, instead of starting a new thread - either way.)

The debate sub-forum is going to be open to all, so will the Ask off-shoots then be open to *everyone*, or still just to the non-CC individual who created the thread and CC members?Well, we haven't got to all the exact rules of the debate subforum yet. One rule I was thinking of for the debate subforum was that it would work the same in that the thread-starter would be the only non-CC-member who can post in that thread. But if others want it open to everyone, and the vote goes that way, then I believe any discussion moved from the Ask area would then become open to everyone.

[GreenMunchkin]

That's how I want it to work, yes. (They could also ask to have their thread moved from the Ask area to the Debate area, instead of starting a new thread - either way.)

Well, we haven't got to all the exact rules of the debate subforum yet. One rule I was thinking of for the debate subforum was that it would work the same in that the thread-starter would be the only non-CC-member who can post in that thread. But if others want it open to everyone, and the vote goes that way, then I believe any discussion moved from the Ask area would then become open to everyone.Ok. Am getting there :)

You know, all the pre-cursor stuff is a pain, but once it's done, it's gonna be really comprehensive and cool. I guess after the 2nd September, we'll sort out the actual forum rules once and for all and then we can have one last major push to sort out the structure.

Just a little concerned that people left because they found all the "internal politics" a drag. People will drift back when it's settled, though, so it'll be ok hopefully :)

[Letalis]

Do we need anymore subforums?

[GreenMunchkin]

Do we need anymore subforums?It could be good, because the Ask a CC thread is popular, but chaotic.

Do you think it would be bad idea?

[Criada]

Sounds a good idea to me.
The thread is great - but there are so many questions at the same time - may be hard for people to actually find the answer to theirs!

[Letalis]

It could be good, because the Ask a CC thread is popular, but chaotic.
The concept of giving non-conservatives somewhere to ask questions is a good idea. Would it still be popular if it had its own forum, though?

Take a look at our debate subforum and some of the "Ask a ... " subforums in the other congregations. They don't get high participation. IMO, these discussions are better had in the main forum because they can get a much higher participation from the members of CC.

[GreenMunchkin]

The concept of giving non-conservatives somewhere to ask questions is a good idea. Would it still be popular if it had its own forum, though?

Take a look at our debate subforum and some of the "Ask a ... " subforums in the other congregations. They don't get high participation. IMO, these discussions are better had in the main forum because they can get a much higher participation from the members of CC.I do see your point, actually. I see one problem, though... ok, say a non-CC member starts a question thread, how do we specify that no non-CC member is to participate in that thread? If that makes any sense. Like, how would we differentiate between an offical Ask thread, and a thread with questions... :scratch: I haven't explained that very well.

[Nadiine]

Ok. Am getting there :)

You know, all the pre-cursor stuff is a pain, but once it's done, it's gonna be really comprehensive and cool. I guess after the 2nd September, we'll sort out the actual forum rules once and for all and then we can have one last major push to sort out the structure.

Just a little concerned that people left because they found all the "internal politics" a drag. People will drift back when it's settled, though, so it'll be ok hopefully :)
Well, people NEED to be patient!
And in fact, if they'de STAY, they could have a hand in voting pools & input to help shape it the way they want it!
How does leaving HELP the area that you want to be a certain way? :swoon: I understand the temptation to run - it's easier to be irritated & blame everyone and just escape dealing with it.

Anyways, we all should have patience and all pitch in to make this section run smoothly and become fine tuned.
It takes time.
THEN, if it's not what you want, bail ship. - women & children first :)

[Nadiine]

The concept of giving non-conservatives somewhere to ask questions is a good idea. Would it still be popular if it had its own forum, though?

Take a look at our debate subforum and some of the "Ask a ... " subforums in the other congregations. They don't get high participation. IMO, these discussions are better had in the main forum because they can get a much higher participation from the members of CC.
I think if it has its own forum, it's got direct rules to govern it specifically as its own forum.

It would all depend on what people want it to be - ask only w/out ANY debate? Or ask and you can discuss a little bit w/ no debating against CC's?