Aalc & Lms-usa

[Luther073082]

Ok I guess by now you guys know me, I've been looking up alternatives between the LCMS and the ELCA and I've found two that I'm sort of interested in learning more but not much information is provided. . . .

Does anyone have any information or know anything about the AALC and the LMS-USA as far as their differences and similarities to the ELCA and the LCMS.

I will note that the LCMS just entered into Alter-pulpit fellowship with the AALC.

[Jenna]

They have some information (http://www.taalc.org/lutheran_distinctions.htm)on that on the AALC website. :) You'll just have to exercise your mouse a wee bit, as it is further down the page.

[Luther073082]

They have some information (http://www.taalc.org/lutheran_distinctions.htm)on that on the AALC website. :) You'll just have to exercise your mouse a wee bit, as it is further down the page.

Yeah I caught that after I posted this, but thanks.

What is the difference between "close" communion and "closed" communion??

[DaRev]

Yeah I caught that after I posted this, but thanks.

What is the difference between "close" communion and "closed" communion??

They are synonomous.

[Luther073082]

They are synonomous.

The AALC website was citing it as one of the differences between it and the LCMS. According to them they said that the LCMS practices closed communion and they practice "close" communion.

Check the link that Jenna gave.

[DaSeminarian]

They have some information (http://www.taalc.org/lutheran_distinctions.htm)on that on the AALC website. :) You'll just have to exercise your mouse a wee bit, as it is further down the page.

I have no mouse to exercise. I have a finger pad on my laptop

[DaRev]

The AALC website was citing it as one of the differences between it and the LCMS. According to them they said that the LCMS practices closed communion and they practice "close" communion.

Check the link that Jenna gave.

I've read their page. The fact remains, the terms are synonomous.

[Luther073082]

I've read their page. The fact remains, the terms are synonomous.

So are they trying to "make-up" differences between them and the LCMS??

I can't imagine why they would write that otherwise unless the d on the end of the word is a huge deal to them that they feel they need a dialog over it.

I'm telling you that d violates both scriptrue and the book of concord!!! Luther would have never added that d on the end of close!!! :D :D

[DaRev]

The LCMS uses the term "close(d)" with the 'd' in parentheses. Why? I have no idea. But really the two terms mean the same thing.

The explanation given on the TAALC web site concerning the LCMS practice of closed communion is incorrect. It is not "only for Missouri Synod Lutherans."

Missouri Synod:

The Lutheran Church--Missouri Synod has never understood or applied the historic practice of close[d] Communion in such a way as to mean that only LCMS members are permitted to commune at LCMS altars. The official position of the Synod is that not only are members of other Lutheran churches with whom we are in altar and pulpit fellowship invited to commune with us, but also that in certain extraordinary cases of pastoral care and in emergencies members of churches not in fellowship with us may be given Communion. The Synod stated, for example, in 1986 "that pastors and congregations of The Lutheran Church--Missouri Synod continue to abide by the practice of close communion, which includes the necessity of exercising responsible pastoral care in extraordinary situations and circumstances"

[Luther073082]

So the LCMS needs to just smack them upside they head and say "They are the same thing!"

Its kind of funny on their website they always refer to you as the LC-MS rather then just LCMS.

They also complain that you don't maintain dicipline within your church well, which I doubt you would argue with because I've seen you complain about the same thing yourself.

[DaRev]

So the LCMS needs to just smack them upside they head and say "They are the same thing!"

They just need to correct their definition.

Its kind of funny on their website they always refer to you as the LC-MS rather then just LCMS.

The hyphen is fine. It stands for Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod. The hyphen is part of the name.

They also complain that you don't maintain dicipline within your church well, which I doubt you would argue with because I've seen you complain about the same thing yourself.

This is unfortunately true.