Are the majority of Fundamentalists anti-Catholic?

[JoeV]

Topic. Thank you :)

[HypnoToad]

Define what you mean by "anti-Catholic".

[Iosias]

Topic. Thank you :)

As a "fundamentalist" I would certainly oppose the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church and affirm what the Westminster Confession teaches regarding the Pope however I lovemy Catholic neighbour and desire that they would turn to Christ alone.

[cubanito]

I am Catholic, as defined by the Apostles Creed and agreed to by just about everybody in the first 1,000 years of Church History.

Are you refering to Roman Catholics?

JR, a fundy

[Albion]

Are the majority of Fundamentalists anti-Catholic? Topic. Thank you :)

It may depend upon what you mean by that term, but I'd say not moreso than the majority of Protestants who belong to mainstream churches, Eastern Orthodox Christians, and the public in general.

[BigNorsk]

Fundamentalist generally have strong disagreements with the Roman Catholic church. That's because many of the fundamentals are in direct disagreement with what Rome teaches.

That said, it is not seen as being anti-Catholic. What is hoped is to free the people from the bondage and the heavy yoke of Rome and the teaching of salvation by works.

Marv

[kobuk]

What is hoped is to free the people from the bondage and the heavy yoke of Rome and the teaching of salvation by works.

Marv
Well said.

There's no greater bondage in the world today than to Satan directly and then secondly and simultaneously, to all of his -isms.

[JoeV]

I guess by "anti-Catholic" I mean people who don't believe that Catholics have salvation. Hope that helps. and yes, I am talking about Roman Catholics.

[JoeV]

That said, it is not seen as being anti-Catholic. What is hoped is to free the people from the bondage and the heavy yoke of Rome and the teaching of salvation by works.
FYI (if you didn't already know) the Church teaches that grace precedes both faith and works, which I believe is sola gratia. Even if works in addition to faith bring salvation, it's still not earning your way into Heaven. In Christ,

Joe V.

[kobuk]

I guess by "anti-Catholic" I mean people who don't believe that Catholics have salvation. Hope that helps. and yes, I am talking about Roman Catholics.
Welcome to the Sola Scriptura - Fundamentalist Christian Congregation area JoeV.

Much of my family on my dad's side are still in bondage to RC-ism. Though my own dad was barely religious and we never even once, except for weddings etc, stepped in any type of Protestant Church or RC Temple. So the topic of RC-ism is one i've grown up with as a kid and later as an adult...

(google video link) RC-ism, Past and Present (http://video.google.com/url?docid=-4460962555053503132&esrc=sr1&ev=v&q=%22Roman%2BCatholicism%2C%2BPast%2Band%2BPresent%22&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-4460962555053503132&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-4460962555053503132%26q%3D%2522Roman%2BCatholicism%252C%2BPast%2Band%2BPresent%2522%26lr%3Dlang_en%26total%3D2%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H21c_UCcC5n4nYEN7Xf4MbxneZ-yvg)
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Expounding on the pagan history and practices of the Roman Catholic Church.

RC-ism is a mix of paganism and luciferianism. The above video provides abundant reference material on the paganism. The link below does the same for the luciferianism.

(homepage link) http://www.vaticanassassins.org/ (http://www.vaticanassassins.org/)

Can a RC find salvation by way of our Savior reaching them through the Scriptures? Yes, thats also true of any other religious group like the Mormons, JW's etc. Each of these groups has had many tens of thousands of saved people come out of them and be set free from their former bondage.

There have been hundreds of former Jesuits and some very high level RC clergymen who have been saved by Yahshua and set free. These men become our source for the truth about what really goes on inside the Vatican. The Luciferianism is very well documented and many have also witnessed their Black Mass, etc. If you search on Google you'll find thousands of references from former high level RC's.


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[BigNorsk]

FYI (if you didn't already know) the Church teaches that grace precedes both faith and works, which I believe is sola gratia. Even if works in addition to faith bring salvation, it's still not earning your way into Heaven. In Christ,

Joe V.

When we speak of works based salvation that is as opposed to faith alone. I think everyone agrees that we are saved by God's grace, the disagreement is what through. We say faith alone and not of works lest any man shall boast. The Catholic church pronounces a curse upon any who would so believe or teach.

If by works then you earn God's grace, you can argue it's still God's grace, but it is not freely given but rather earned as a workman earns his wages.

This also destroys Christ alone. You are not saved by Christ alone, you believe you are saved by Christ and others, such as yourself and the church. Catholics vary on that some but officially, you save yourself through your works and the church saves you by loosing your sins and giving you the other Sacraments. All in addition to Christ.

Marv

[kobuk]

Very well said marv. Clearly articulated.

[Albion]

FYI (if you didn't already know) the Church teaches that grace precedes both faith and works, which I believe is sola gratia. Even if works in addition to faith bring salvation, it's still not earning your way into Heaven. In Christ,

Joe V.

Well. it may fairly be called 'earning your way into heaven' if one is judged on his own deeds--whether or not there is preexisting grace allowing you to try. I am sure that is what Big N meant.

But thanks for the clarification about the meaning of anti-Catholicism in this inquiry. I don't feel that it is common to say that Catholics may not be saved for practicing their religion. In the case of some churches often called cultic, such as the Mormons, there is a question of whether it really is Christ who is followed, but for other churches which are said to believe false doctrines, the concern doesn't usually extend to saying there can be no salvation.

Of course, this kind of question is always difficult--just as asking if Catholics believe that Fundamentalist Christians can be saved. Yes, there are SOME in both groups/church which would hold that salvation is not possible, but when it comes to a guess about what MOST believe, it's tough to say.

[kobuk]

I don't feel that it is common to say that Catholics may not be saved for practicing their religion..
How "commonly" spoken or read is Revelation 17-18 ?

[Albion]

How "commonly" spoken or read is Revelation 17-18 ?

Hard to say, but I don't feel that it is commonly believed that Catholics may not be saved.

[Iosias]

How "commonly" spoken or read is Revelation 17-18 ?

XL. Babylon, The Bride Of Antichrist (17:1-6) (http://www.spindleworks.com/library/hoeksma/behold40.htm)
XLI. The Mystery Of The Beast (17:7-14) (http://www.spindleworks.com/library/hoeksma/behold41.htm)
XLII. The Judgment Of The Harlot (17:15-18) (http://www.spindleworks.com/library/hoeksma/behold42.htm)
XLIII. The Fall Of Babylon (18) (http://www.spindleworks.com/library/hoeksma/behold43.htm)

[JohnChapter14]

Welcome to the Sola Scriptura - Fundamentalist Christian Congregation area JoeV.

Much of my family on my dad's side are still in bondage to RC-ism. Though my own dad was barely religious and we never even once, except for weddings etc, stepped in any type of Protestant Church or RC Temple. So the topic of RC-ism is one i've grown up with as a kid and later as an adult...

(google video link) RC-ism, Past and Present (http://video.google.com/url?docid=-4460962555053503132&esrc=sr1&ev=v&q=%22Roman%2BCatholicism%2C%2BPast%2Band%2BPresent%22&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-4460962555053503132&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-4460962555053503132%26q%3D%2522Roman%2BCatholicism%252C%2BPast%2Band%2BPresent%2522%26lr%3Dlang_en%26total%3D2%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H21c_UCcC5n4nYEN7Xf4MbxneZ-yvg)
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Expounding on the pagan history and practices of the Roman Catholic Church.

RC-ism is a mix of paganism and luciferianism. The above video provides abundant reference material on the paganism. The link below does the same for the luciferianism.

(homepage link) http://www.vaticanassassins.org/ (http://www.vaticanassassins.org/)

Can a RC find salvation by way of our Savior reaching them through the Scriptures? Yes, thats also true of any other religious group like the Mormons, JW's etc. Each of these groups has had many tens of thousands of saved people come out of them and be set free from their former bondage.

There have been hundreds of former Jesuits and some very high level RC clergymen who have been saved by Yahshua and set free. These men become our source for the truth about what really goes on inside the Vatican. The Luciferianism is very well documented and many have also witnessed their Black Mass, etc. If you search on Google you'll find thousands of references from former high level RC's.


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Concerning one of the videos I saw,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4460962555053503132&q=%22Roman+Catholicism%2C+Past+and+Present%22&lr=lang_en&total=2&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Jesus did give the 12 apostles authority to forgive sins, but that is as far as I know.

[JohnChapter14]

I watched the video and was shocked to learn some things about the RC.

[BrotherEnrique]

Parve,
In teaching and learning of Divine Truth, suffering for all, my spirit has noticed many fundalmentalist and spiritual seekers in disgust with the Roman Catholic Church. The Deception, the methods do not clinging to a better way. The Trinitarian Order (founded with the birth of Christ Immanuel) which I serve, shows a way of peace, righteousness and love because it is lead by Christ Immanuel, in Thy mystism in obedience to Thy Desires.
Anyone who can exclaim to the world they are the HOLY FATHER puts them selves above the Creator YHWH. For they are Not the I AM, nor can they raise the dead. Meditate on these words in prayer with me.
Pax :angel:
Brother Enrique

[NewGuy101]

I am anti catholic in a theological sense, but in an evangelizing/fellowshipping sense I am strongly pro-catholic!

[Bravotwofour]

JoeV, I see by your signature that you are concerned about matt 7:21. If you take the verse seriously, it is actually scary. I certainly have never been nearly as productive as the people in that story, but I read a good explanation of how God evaluates the sinner. It is in a book called Under Protest, author Jonteel. It provides a really good answer.